Comments on: An Anarchist’s Strategy To Dismiss Every Foreclosure In Florida http://4closurefraud.org/2010/02/07/an-anarchists-strategy-to-dismiss-every-foreclosure-in-florida/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=an-anarchists-strategy-to-dismiss-every-foreclosure-in-florida Fighting Foreclosure Fraud BY SHARING THE KNOWLEDGE Wed, 23 May 2012 04:30:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Mark A. Adams JD/MBA http://4closurefraud.org/2010/02/07/an-anarchists-strategy-to-dismiss-every-foreclosure-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-4275 Mark A. Adams JD/MBA Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:34:32 +0000 http://4closurefraud.org/?p=1562#comment-4275 The point is that history has shown that when judges begin to ignore the law and the rights of average citizens things usually go from bad to worse very quickly. The horrors which resulted when judges did so in Nazi Germany is an example that people are very familiar with. The tendency of judges to ignore the rights of citizens is one of the reasons why the Framers provided for jury trials for all crimes in Article III § 2 and the 6th Amendment and in all actions at common law when more than $20 was at stake in the 7th Amendment. Alexander Hamilton explained that it is much easier to improperly influence a standing body of judges than it is a group a citizens summoned to serve on a jury. In the Pennsylvania dissent to ratification which was the basis for the Bill of Rights, Samuel Bryan (quoting Blackstone about the seizure of power by the aristocracy in Sweden) said, “that trial by jury and the liberty of the people went out together.” Of course, these rights to trial by jury began to be undermined by judges who wanted more power shortly after ratification. Judges claimed that the right to jury trials under the 7th Amendment did not include "equitable" proceedings like family law, bankruptcy, probate and foreclosure in spite of the fact that the Pennsylvania dissent explained the need for an amendment providing for a jury trial in all civil proceedings and used the abuses of courts of chancery or equity as examples of why trial by jury was necessary in both civil and criminal proceedings. Although a note and a mortgage are contracts and many questions of fact concerning these contracts are still supposed to be questions for the jury, many judges simply ignore controlling precedent to rule in favor of the rich and powerful. Of course, due to the government controlled “educational” system, most people, even judges and attorneys, have no idea that ignoring controlling precedent is a felony violation of 18 U.S.C. § 242. See U.S. v. Lanier, 520 U.S. 259 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/95-1717.ZS.html By the way, Lanier is about a judge being prosecuted. See my comment below to learn more about how liberty and justice were supposed to be secured under the U.S. Constitution. The point is that history has shown that when judges begin to ignore the law and the rights of average citizens things usually go from bad to worse very quickly. The horrors which resulted when judges did so in Nazi Germany is an example that people are very familiar with.

The tendency of judges to ignore the rights of citizens is one of the reasons why the Framers provided for jury trials for all crimes in Article III § 2 and the 6th Amendment and in all actions at common law when more than $20 was at stake in the 7th Amendment.

Alexander Hamilton explained that it is much easier to improperly influence a standing body of judges than it is a group a citizens summoned to serve on a jury. In the Pennsylvania dissent to ratification which was the basis for the Bill of Rights, Samuel Bryan (quoting Blackstone about the seizure of power by the aristocracy in Sweden) said, “that trial by jury and the liberty of the people went out together.”

Of course, these rights to trial by jury began to be undermined by judges who wanted more power shortly after ratification. Judges claimed that the right to jury trials under the 7th Amendment did not include “equitable” proceedings like family law, bankruptcy, probate and foreclosure in spite of the fact that the Pennsylvania dissent explained the need for an amendment providing for a jury trial in all civil proceedings and used the abuses of courts of chancery or equity as examples of why trial by jury was necessary in both civil and criminal proceedings.

Although a note and a mortgage are contracts and many questions of fact concerning these contracts are still supposed to be questions for the jury, many judges simply ignore controlling precedent to rule in favor of the rich and powerful. Of course, due to the government controlled “educational” system, most people, even judges and attorneys, have no idea that ignoring controlling precedent is a felony violation of 18 U.S.C. § 242. See U.S. v. Lanier, 520 U.S. 259 at http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/95-1717.ZS.html By the way, Lanier is about a judge being prosecuted.

See my comment below to learn more about how liberty and justice were supposed to be secured under the U.S. Constitution.

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]]> By: charles castellon http://4closurefraud.org/2010/02/07/an-anarchists-strategy-to-dismiss-every-foreclosure-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-4205 charles castellon Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:40:59 +0000 http://4closurefraud.org/?p=1562#comment-4205 Please excuse typos spotted after a rushed comment. Please excuse typos spotted after a rushed comment.

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]]> By: charles castellon http://4closurefraud.org/2010/02/07/an-anarchists-strategy-to-dismiss-every-foreclosure-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-4204 charles castellon Tue, 24 Aug 2010 15:37:36 +0000 http://4closurefraud.org/?p=1562#comment-4204 I'm an attorney fighting foreclosures on behalf of borrowers. I appreciate and agree with virtually everthing published in this blog and Matt Weidner's and commend their efforts against the banksters. Unfortnately, the majority of the public, legislature and judiciary don't understand the nature of this criminal enterprise and hearts and minds need to be won to effectuate real change, especially change beyond election year posturing of the attorney general, however legitimate the fraud claims may be. That said, I must criticize the use of the Nazi stormtrooper analogy. Throughout history, Nazi comparisons have fallen flat, have been largely counterproductive and usually deemed offensive. It's very hard to avoid hyperbole and the disdain likely to result from equating anyone with a genocidal totalitarian regime that killed millions, unless your talking about Pol Pot. The lending industry, Wall Street and all their minions and facilitators deserve our wrath, but we will not get the credibility our movement deserves with histrionics like Nazi comparisons, especially when their is a fair amount of "grey area" attributable to some borrowers who have been less than forthright in this crisis. I’m an attorney fighting foreclosures on behalf of borrowers. I appreciate and agree with virtually everthing published in this blog and Matt Weidner’s and commend their efforts against the banksters. Unfortnately, the majority of the public, legislature and judiciary don’t understand the nature of this criminal enterprise and hearts and minds need to be won to effectuate real change, especially change beyond election year posturing of the attorney general, however legitimate the fraud claims may be. That said, I must criticize the use of the Nazi stormtrooper analogy. Throughout history, Nazi comparisons have fallen flat, have been largely counterproductive and usually deemed offensive. It’s very hard to avoid hyperbole and the disdain likely to result from equating anyone with a genocidal totalitarian regime that killed millions, unless your talking about Pol Pot. The lending industry, Wall Street and all their minions and facilitators deserve our wrath, but we will not get the credibility our movement deserves with histrionics like Nazi comparisons, especially when their is a fair amount of “grey area” attributable to some borrowers who have been less than forthright in this crisis.

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]]> By: Mark A. Adams JD/MBA http://4closurefraud.org/2010/02/07/an-anarchists-strategy-to-dismiss-every-foreclosure-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-4166 Mark A. Adams JD/MBA Mon, 23 Aug 2010 17:12:11 +0000 http://4closurefraud.org/?p=1562#comment-4166 This was actually tried by Karen Tappert, but she and others who tried a similar strategy of just making up documents and filing them have been indicted. See http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jun/18/partial-list-accused-operation-stolen-dreams/ and see the indictment at http://www.creditorcentral.net/news/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Karen-Tappert-indictment-2.pdf As a comment to the Law Vegas Sun points out, the banks and their attorneys get away with filing fraudulent documents all of the time, but if normal people try it, they get prosecuted. If you are starting to wonder whether we really do live in a land with liberty and justice for all since some people, such as banksters and their lawyers, can commit crimes without any consequences and others get prosecuted for such crimes, then you are not alone. If anyone wants to know how liberty and justice were supposed to be secured, see Why Does the Government Ignore Our Wishes? at http://dailycensored.com/2009/09/11/why-does-the-government-ignore-our-wishes/ and don’t miss my short speech. If you take a look, you’ll learn why banksters, their attorneys, regulators, and judges can get away with violating our rights, abusing their power, stealing homes and committing horrible crimes. My article on torture includes a link to the U.S. Supreme Court case which explains how one of our stolen rights makes the difference between justice and injustice, between freedom and slavery. This was actually tried by Karen Tappert, but she and others who tried a similar strategy of just making up documents and filing them have been indicted. See http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/jun/18/partial-list-accused-operation-stolen-dreams/ and see the indictment at http://www.creditorcentral.net/news/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Karen-Tappert-indictment-2.pdf

As a comment to the Law Vegas Sun points out, the banks and their attorneys get away with filing fraudulent documents all of the time, but if normal people try it, they get prosecuted. If you are starting to wonder whether we really do live in a land with liberty and justice for all since some people, such as banksters and their lawyers, can commit crimes without any consequences and others get prosecuted for such crimes, then you are not alone.

If anyone wants to know how liberty and justice were supposed to be secured, see Why Does the Government Ignore Our Wishes? at http://dailycensored.com/2009/09/11/why-does-the-government-ignore-our-wishes/ and don’t miss my short speech.

If you take a look, you’ll learn why banksters, their attorneys, regulators, and judges can get away with violating our rights, abusing their power, stealing homes and committing horrible crimes. My article on torture includes a link to the U.S. Supreme Court case which explains how one of our stolen rights makes the difference between justice and injustice, between freedom and slavery.

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]]> By: BUYER BEWARE! The Foreclosure StormTroopers ARE Coming To Break Down YOUR Door! « Foreclosure Fraud – Fighting Foreclosure Fraud by Sharing the Knowledge http://4closurefraud.org/2010/02/07/an-anarchists-strategy-to-dismiss-every-foreclosure-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-4135 BUYER BEWARE! The Foreclosure StormTroopers ARE Coming To Break Down YOUR Door! « Foreclosure Fraud – Fighting Foreclosure Fraud by Sharing the Knowledge Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:21:29 +0000 http://4closurefraud.org/?p=1562#comment-4135 [...] of my personal favorites, obviously for entertainment purposes only, is Link – An Anarchist’s Strategy To Dismiss Every Foreclosure In Florida, as it is an interesting strategy on how to fight fire with fire in regards to the theft of [...] [...] of my personal favorites, obviously for entertainment purposes only, is Link – An Anarchist’s Strategy To Dismiss Every Foreclosure In Florida, as it is an interesting strategy on how to fight fire with fire in regards to the theft of [...]

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]]> By: Beyond Bogus – Docx Assignment of Mortgage – Bogus Assignee for Intervening Asmts « Foreclosure Fraud http://4closurefraud.org/2010/02/07/an-anarchists-strategy-to-dismiss-every-foreclosure-in-florida/comment-page-1/#comment-411 Beyond Bogus – Docx Assignment of Mortgage – Bogus Assignee for Intervening Asmts « Foreclosure Fraud Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:16:31 +0000 http://4closurefraud.org/?p=1562#comment-411 [...] I do not endorse this method, but the Anarchist’s Strategy To Dismiss Every Foreclosure In Florida doesn’t seem so far [...] [...] I do not endorse this method, but the Anarchist’s Strategy To Dismiss Every Foreclosure In Florida doesn’t seem so far [...]

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