Here we go again…

First a recap…

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LINK – Action Alert – Is Pres Obama’s Pocket Veto on H.R. 3808 Possibly Ineffective?

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LINK – Action Alert – Please tell President Obama NOT to sign the Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act

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From the LEGISLATIVE DAY OF NOVEMBER 15, 2010 111TH CONGRESS – SECOND SESSION

Start from bottom up at the 2:13 mark…

2:15 P.M. –
ONE MINUTE SPEECHES – The House proceeded with one minute speeches.

H.R. 3808:
to require any Federal or State court to recognize any notarization made by a notary public licensed by a State other than the State where the court is located when such notarization occurs in or affects interstate commerce

2:14 P.M. –
VETO MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT – The Chair laid before the House the veto message from the President on H.R. 3808. The objections of the President were spread at large upon the Journal, and the veto message was ordered to be printed as a House Document No. 111-152. Pursuant to the order of the House of earlier today, further consideration of the veto message and the bill are postponed until the legislative day of Wednesday, Nov. 17, 2010, and that on that legislative day, the House shall proceed to the constitutional question of reconsideration and dispose of such question without intervening motion.

2:13 P.M. –
The House received a message from the Clerk. Pursuant to the permission granted in Clause 2(h) of Rule II of the Rules of the U.S. House of Representatives, the Clerk transmitted H.R. 3808, the “Interstate Recognition of Notarization Act of 2010,” and a Memorandum of Disapproval thereon received from the White House on October 8, 2010, at 12:55 p.m.

Mr. Scott (VA) asked unanimous consent That, when the House adjourns on Monday, November 15, 2010, it adjourn to meet at 12:30 p.m. on Tuesday, November 16, 2010, for Morning-Hour Debate. Agreed to without objection.

Mr. Scott (VA) asked unanimous consent That, when a veto message on H.R. 3808 is laid before the House on the legislative day of today, then after the message is read and the objections of the President are spread at large upon the Journal, further consideration of the veto message and the bill shall be postponed until the legislative day of Wednesday, Nov. 17, 2010; and that on that legislative day, the House shall proceed to the constitutional question of reconsideration and dispose of such question without intervening motion. Agreed to without objection.

Looks like it is time for another crash course on how this works…

Veto Override Procedure in the House and Senate

Summary

A bill or joint resolution that has been vetoed by the President can become law if two-thirds of the Members voting in the House and the Senate each agree to pass it over the President’s objection. The chambers act sequentially on vetoed measures; the House acts first on House-originated measures (H.R. and H.J. Res.) and the Senate acts first on Senate-originated measures (S. and S.J. Res.). If the first-acting chamber fails to override the veto, the measure dies and the other chamber does not consider it. The House typically considers the question of overriding a presidential veto under the hour rule, with time customarily controlled and allocated by the chair and ranking member of the committee with jurisdiction over the bill. The Senate usually considers the question of overriding a veto under the terms of a unanimous consent agreement.

Voting in the House

To override a veto, two-thirds of the Members voting, a quorum being present, must agree to repass the bill over the President’s objections. The Constitution requires that the vote be by the “yeas and nays,” which in the modern House means that Members’ votes will be recorded through the electronic voting system. The vote on the veto override is final because, in contrast to votes on most other questions in the House, a motion to reconsider the vote on the question of overriding a veto is not in order.

Full rules below…

Check back for updates…

UPDATE: JUST CONFIRMED WITH THE BILL’S SPONSOR STAFF IN WASHINGTON DC AND THERE WILL BE A VOTE TO OVERRIDE OR UPHOLD THE PRESIDENTS VETO WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 17, 2010.

GET ON THE PHONES AND CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES NOW AND TELL THEM TO UPHOLD THE PRESIDENTS VETO!

Link to Contact Your Representative…

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UPDATE: Wednesday Nov 17th, 2010

The House resumes today at 10am. I do not know specifically when H.R. 3808 will be discussed but you can click through to view…

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Click Through to View

LINK TO MINUTES

10:28 A.M. –
The Speaker announced that the House do now recess. The next meeting is subject to the call of the Chair.

H. Res. 1720:
providing for the printing of a revised edition of the Rules and Manual of the House of Representatives for the One Hundred Twelfth Congress

10:27 A.M. –
Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.

On agreeing to the resolution Agreed to without objection.

Mr. Ellison asked unanimous consent to take from the Speaker’s table and consider.

Considered by unanimous consent.

S.J. Res. 40:
appointing the day for the convening of the first session of the One Hundred Twelfth Congress

Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.

On passage Passed without objection.

10:26 A.M. –
Mr. Ellison asked unanimous consent to take from the Speaker’s table and consider.

Considered by unanimous consent.

DEBATE TIME LIMITATION – Mr. Ellison asked unanimous consent that debate on passing H.R. 3808, the objections of the President to the contrary notwithstanding, be limited to 10 minutes equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the Committee on the Judiciary. Agreed to without objection.

10:03 A.M. –
ONE MINUTE SPEECHES – The House proceeded with one minute speeches, which by direction of the Chair would be limited to 15 per side of the aisle.

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE – The Chair designated Mr. Quigley to lead the Members in reciting the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.

10:02 A.M. –
The Speaker announced approval of the Journal. Pursuant to clause 1, rule I, the Journal stands approved.

Today’s prayer was offered by the House Chaplain, Rev. Daniel Coughlin.

10:01 A.M. –
The Speaker designated the Honorable Ed Pastor to act as Speaker pro tempore for today.

10:00 A.M. –
The House convened, starting a new legislative day.

UPDATE: Wednesday Nov 17th, 2010 4:00pm est

H.R. 3808 Alert – Disposing of the President’s Veto of H.R. 3808- Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act of 2010

Well folks, from the calls that were placed and the information we have received it has now come down to the next two hours…

http://aderholt.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=14&sectiontree=12,14&itemid=925

Confirmed with Adelholt’s office that vote is taking place tonight sometime in the next two hours.  This morning was a discussion and agreement to limit discussion to 10mins.

ANTICIPATED FLOOR SCHEDULE

On Wednesday, November 17th, the House will meet at 10:00 a.m. for legislative business. Following One Minutes, the House will recess in order to accommodate the Democratic and Republican Organizing Meetings.

At approximately 4:00 p.m., the House will reconvene and resume legislative business. Last votes expected: 6:00 p.m.

One Minutes(15 per side)

Disposing of the President’s Veto of H.R. 3808– Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act of 2010
(Sponsored by Rep. Aderholt / Judiciary Committee)

http://aderholt.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=14&sectiontree=12,14&itemid=925

Not sure if it will be live but you can check it out here if it is…

Click Through to View

UPDATE:

Hearing is over, here are the minutes…

CURRENT HO– USE FLOOR PROCEEDINGS
LEGISLATIVE DAY OF NOVEMBER 17, 2010
111TH CONGRESS – SECOND SESSION

 

H.R. 3808:
to require any Federal or State court to recognize any notarization made by a notary public licensed by a State other than the State where the court is located when such notarization occurs in or affects interstate commerce  

5:24 P.M. –
On motion to refer the bill and the accompanying veto message to the Committee on the Judiciary. Agreed to without objection. On passage, the objections of the President to the contrary notwithstanding Failed by the Yeas and Nays (2/3 required): (Roll No. 573).

Motion to refer the bill and accompanying veto message to the Committee on Judiciary.

 

5:14 P.M. –
UNFINISHED BUSINESS – The Chair announced that the unfinished business was the question of passage of H.R. 3808 on reconsideration, the objections of the President to the contrary notwithstanding, and on motions to suspend the rules which had been debated earlier and on which further proceedings had been postponed.  

H. Con. Res. 332:

The title of this measure is not available 

4:42 P.M. –
Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection. On agreeing to the resolution Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: (Roll No. 572).

Considered as privileged matter.

 

H.R. 3808:

to require any Federal or State court to recognize any notarization made by a notary public licensed by a State other than the State where the court is located when such notarization occurs in or affects interstate commerce 

4:41 P.M. –
POSTPONED PROCEEDINGS – At the conclusion of the allotted debate time, the Chair announced that under the Constitution, the yeas and nays were ordered on the question of passage upon reconsideration, the objection of the President to the contrary notwithstanding. The Chair further announced that further proceedings on that question would be postponed until a time to be announced.  

4:33 P.M. –
DEBATE – Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the House proceeded with 10 minutes of debate on the veto message from the President on H.R. 3808, equally divided and controlled.  

4:32 P.M. –
Pursuant to the order of the House of November 15, 2010, the Chair announced that the unfinished business was the further consideration of the veto message of the President on H.R. 3808.  

4:31 P.M. –
The House convened, returning from a recess continuing the legislative day of November 17.

Thanks All!

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H.R. 3808 Veto Override Procedure in the House and Senate