Independence Day | Are You Patriotic Enough To Do What Jefferson Would Do

It’s Independence Day 

What does it stand for in 2011? Are we still free?

July 4th, 1776 is considered by some to be the sort of official birthday of the good old US of A, but that would actually be July second.

But what the hell; why let a few facts get in the way of a good story, heh?

Its significance was so great that John Adams wrote this to his wife, “The second day of July, 1776, will be the most memorable epoch in the history of America”. Oops.

The effective date of the actual legal split of the 13 Colonies from Great Britain would have been the day the Second Continental Congress voted to adopt a resolution of independence. The Declaration of Independence was approved two days later, on the fourth.

We seem to have lost sight of the significance of the date and what it really means. It has evolved into a sort of summer festival and an excuse to string together as many days of drunken mayhem as possible.

In addition to the fingers that will be blown off, the grinding auto collisions, the houses burned down, drunken anger will lead to the requisite shootings, stabbings and assaults. And, because summer is softball season, there will be the sweet ping of high tech aluminum/titanium alloy striking bone. “When I say yer out…yer out, mother-fucker!”

And, of course, the men will be even worse.

Many young men will not be with us on the 5th of July and will achieve their life’s apex and garner a Darwin award. Their famous last words, “hold my beer and watch this.”

By Tuesday the jails will be overflowing with the ones not in the trauma unit or the coroners fridge.

Trust me; I’ll be celebrating my freedom to hunker down at home until all of the silliness blows over.

If we could only find a way to channel all of that reverence for our freedoms into some actual participation in the governing process maybe our beloved country wouldn’t have to fall into calamitous ruin.

But I am not too hopeful. My research for this article drew me to Swami’s, a great surfing beach and the garden of Parmahansa Yogananda’s former temple. The whole area has a sort of spiritual vibe to it and in addition to the positive energy I always feel around there, I wanted to talk to people about the meaning of the fourth of July.

Two surfers broke it down this way. They told me that freedom was ”righteous”, “rad” and “gnarly” and that the “pilgrim dudes” fought the red-coats and now we have fireworks.

But they hadn’t a clue about the Declaration of Independence so in case they skipped over this when you were in school; let’s review a highlight or two in light of our current predicament.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

Our founding fathers believed we had an absolute right to the pursuit of happiness. Our current leaders believe they have the absolute right to do whatever they want regardless of how miserable it makes us.

“That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to affect their Safety and Happiness.”

The consent of the governed? Safety and happiness? Boy, these guys were obsessed. Can you name three elected officials who really care about us?

Our forefathers knew about oppressive self-serving governments and wanted to guard against the natural evolution toward totalitarianism. So, they did not advocate that governments should be overthrown as a matter of course but they recognized the possibility of the necessity.

“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”

They even recognized that people are extremely reluctant to cast aside that to which they have become accustomed no matter how bad things get.

“But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

They affirm that it is not only our right but our duty to overthrow bad government, and we really have bad government. Motive matters but the results speak for themselves. Whether they are dishonest or incompetent, we cannot afford to let them continue to run things.

What would Thomas Jefferson say about our situation?

“And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”

Fast forward 235 years and the gap between what those guys obtained for us and what is left is a tale of neglect and indifference.

Investment banks created investments that their own research showed them would fail, sold them over and over again, and in each case made side bets that paid them when the investments predictably failed.

The most profitable companies pay zero taxes and get government subsidies to train workers in the third world to do our jobs for thirty-seven cents an hour. How fucking patriotic is that?

The result; record unemployment, record foreclosures, failing communities, and everything that is being done in response is exactly the wrong way to solve the problem.

No reasonable thinking person could honestly say that something hasn’t gone terribly wrong with our Democracy. Five hundred and thirty five people, most of them shameless pitch people for big business, control everything.

They are Congress. If they say they want a balanced budget, why don’t we have one? If they say they want quality health care for all Americans, why don’t we have it? Who the hell is stopping them? The truth is that they want none of that. Just look at the gap between the rhetoric and the results.

And it didn’t happen overnight. We lost interest in it. It came too cheaply to succeeding generations and our totems evolved from noble ideas about the human condition to Bud Lites, big pick-ups, and television shows that feature people working at jobs that hardly exist anymore.

Real Patriotism has been replaced by unquestioned jingoism. If you think a war is a bad idea, you can’t be patriotic.

Real tangible rights have been replaced by slogans and symbols.

The flag is a symbol. It is not freedom. It doesn’t represent the freedom of self-expression if it is illegal to burn it. I’m not advocating flag burning but let’s remember that we do not need a right to self-expression if we only do and say things that are popular. Our rights mean less than the symbols that represents them. And many people buy that absurdity.

Flags are made of cloth. They wear out. I’ve gone thru quite a few of them. Do you know the prescribed method of disposing of a tattered Old Glory? They’re harder to light than you think.

Sharper Image used to burn holes in flags and sell them as battle-scarred replicas from grand old wars gone by. If you can make a buck on it, no one cares.

Rather than being symbols of freedom, they are really symbols of conformity.

Controversy is created where none would have existed.

Keeping us divided and scrapping over petty issues is the goal of both sides of the political spectrum. They have no answers to any legitimate questions so they keep us distracted with nonsense.

For example, a couple of weeks ago a television network, showing a golf tournament, broadcast The Pledge of Allegiance absent the word God.

Imagine. God loves golf. He was probably watching in 3D.

Turns out that the only reason he didn’t unleash Armageddon is that he wasn’t offended that his name was left out of our Pledge.

God has a longer memory than talk show hosts. Absent from all of the outrage was the truth. The Pledge was written in 1892, ironically by a Baptist Minister, and the word God wasn’t in it.

In 1953, I attended Kindergarten at Taconite Elementary School on the Mesabi Iron Range. The first thing I ever deliberately memorized was, “I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”

Blasphemy, you say? Not at all. My memory is pretty good too. I recited it every school day for two years. The American Legion lobbied Congress to have “under god” added to the pledge which occurred late in 1954. How the hell are they going to reprogram me after all the time that has passed? Good thing I don’t announce golf tournaments.

This is what passes for political discourse. The Pledge during the telecast of a golf tournament? How do they keep a straight face behind all that phony bluster?

It is the politics of divide and conquer. As a result, our nation is weaker today than it was at its birth.

And be careful what you say about that. The Supreme Court recently made warrantless searches the law of the land.

If a rich guy wants you waterfront property, kiss it goodbye. Ask Susette Kelo or Ahmad Mesdaq about eminent domain.

Police across the country are arresting citizens for videotaping them performing their public duties, as public employees, in public. Ask Emily Good about the reality of living in a police state.

Why let the people who destroyed our former Republic get away with it? If the appropriate agencies won’t act, it is because they are bought and paid for.

Somehow, people have gotten the idea that it isn’t possible to overthrow our government by force, but apparently Thomas Jefferson was not among them.

Remember those guns we’ve been stockpiling since 1776? Isn’t this what all the Second Amendment advocates say we’ve been keeping them for?

So in the true spirit of Independence Day, I think it is fitting to take a moment and ask an important question; as corrupt and dysfunctional as our government has become, are you Patriotic enough to do what Jefferson would do? Well are you?

George W. Mantor
The Real Estate Professor
Founder, American Foreclosure Resistance Movement
http://www.realtown.com/gwmantor/blog
http://www.gwmantor.hersid.com/

“First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win.”  —  Mahatma Gandhi

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69 Responses to “Independence Day | Are You Patriotic Enough To Do What Jefferson Would Do”
  1. The forenzic audit is the actual audit that was done for John O’Brien below. I have e-mailed it to several people from this sight. Let me know if you recieved it. This audit shows every foreclosure in his state was done illegally! and the entire deed of records department is as the auditor says a crime scene. For the entire two counties audited and they exspect the entire state and the entire country. If this does not send them to jail what will?

    His kiureeahe ahv
    Register of Deeds John O’Brien Releases Forensic Study,
    Finds MASSIVE FRAUD in Foreclosure Docs
    McDonnell’s Report includes the following key findings:
    • Only 16% of assignments of mortgage are valid
    • 75% of assignments of mortgage are invalid.
    I can tell you that every single assignment of mortgage that was recorded for the purpose of foreclosing the homeowner is invalid, overtly fraudulent, or criminally fraudulent. My findings also show that your constituents who are not in foreclosure, and have never been delinquent in their payments also have clouds on title due to the recording of defective and invalid discharges and assignments of mortgage.”

  2. read this audit Hopefully if you click it you will get the audit. Let me know if it does not happen. I will give you my email. This proves the recorded deed of trust at the recorders office is a crime scene in on state and believe me it is the proof of every state.

    Check out the audit.

  3. Snowstorm says:

    I am in Court in two states. I am going to add this DEFENSE. No Judge in this entire country can rule on these Foreclosures, if it’s a Conflict of Interest. The Judge’s will be receiving a financial gain, with the Pensions and investments? so, they have this beneficial interest to RULE AGAINST US. This is why they have turned the deaf ear and blind eye to it all. We Must PROTEST. I may have just found this out Sunday, but I had six Judge’s recused in the past, in a Probate case. I proved improprieties and they were OUT LIKE A FLASH. Has anyone used this as their DEFENSE.?? If they recuse, new Judge arrives, recuse, just keep recusing till their OUT OF JUDGE”S. I went before 16 Judge’s in my case., into four counties. All the way to the N.J. Supreme Court, and I did win, pro-se. That’s another DEFENSE I am adding. The courts have admitted to being BIAS against the Pro-se litigant. Thanks I Vent. If you can find any PROOF, let me know

    • lvent says:

      You want to hear a good one? The attorney for Aronberg Goldgehn, who has been trying to fraudclose on my commercial property used to be an assistant AG at the IL AG’S OFFICE. An attorney I have been speaking with who is a friend of the family told me she needs to remove herself from the case because of all of the fraud which I am filing complaints to the state AG, that is a conflict of interest. The corruption is everywhere. P.S.Beware of Loyola grads.

      • Snowstorm says:

        Yes, It is. Keep a log of all the facts, as it becomes OVERWHELMING and it makes my brain hurt.
        The FRAUD is rampant. WE KNOW IT, THE ATTORNEY’S KNOW IT, and the COURTS KNOW IT. I am looking to hire a Forensic Examiner to do the Title Search for all the Assignments. I was not successful in looking up the information myself. I quit eating out at ALL of the fast food places as the food is just nasty and fattening, and not so cheap anymore. I never do BURGERS out?????

      • lies all of it says:

        snowstorm mcdonalds 1$ menu 16 bucks to feed 5 people

    • I had good reason on top the partiality of the federal court judges and used both and asked Judge Pechman to recuse herself four times and she refused to recuse herself. She wars with me and the constitution. To long of a story to go into, but I am sure she was a part of fraud upon the court in a case I did pro se against the mayor of my town. I am sure she did summary judgment on me now. She is a huge part of my Appeal. Along with fraud upon the court of slandereds and clouded title, and summary judgment before my request for discovery was answered……….All photos and fraud assignments that were dated in 2009 and 2010. When the loan was in 2005. Pechman sent an order for me to answer in ten days. Only the post dated envelope showed she had mailed the order just days before I received it two days after the order was suppose to be answered. I spent the night I recieved it doing my answer and had it delivered to the court directly by hand, with a urgent memorandum that I had received the order two days after her deadline date. Judge Pechman stated I was a non moving party and gave me summary judgement.. So I am in the Appeals court.

      • Snowstorm says:

        Most Judge’s usually recuse upon the request. This is good news for you, going into the APPEAL.
        The fact that she was so arrogant to continue on after four requests will help you on Appeal. I had the same thing done to me. Party did not want to give Discovery, till after their Motion for Summary Judgement was decided, then if it was in their favor, we didn’t waste their time. LOL Never mind the fact that we are entitled to Discovery to get the docs we need to properly defend off their Motion. These Judge’s are not going to allow us to win. They don’t care how many forgeries we have. Now I see why? Until the country REVOLTS, I don’t see us winning in Courts?? Keep fighting, Good Luck. Don’t accept losing. Knowledge is Power. Share your story. Spread the WORD.

      • Snowstorm says:

        Thanks Shelley. I got the audit. Too tired to read it. Today is now officially over for me.

    • lies all of it says:

      snowstorm yes we are learnign new things daily. i found out today note and stocks can not coexist. the reason the notes were never sent to the investor. they were securitized turned the notes into stocks. causing the notes to become null an void. please let us all know how to recuse a judge?

      • Snowstorm says:

        You just file a Motion to Recuse. Just google it ” How to recuse a Judge” some sites give a pre-printed form and reasons you can use. I usually caught the Judge doing or saying something that is prohibited. Like: Your adversary and the Judge had private conversations and you were EXCLUDED. This happens ALL THE TIME. Be alert at the hearings and you will find COLLUSION. I just won a ruling against the Appraiser and Company. Now the judge makes this REMARK that I proved my case and showed the FRAUD, so they can not be DISMISSED. Good right? Yea, But then he states: ” But she may have a hard time proving it at trial?” I want him off. He has NO BUSINESS making this remark in the COURT ORDER. So he is BIAS, in his thinking that I won’t be able to do the trial pro-se? I am also using the DEFENSE that all Judge’s have admitted to being BIAS on pro-se litigant’s. To add, I am going for the JUGULAR and stating there is a HUGE CONFLICT OF INTEREST as he has he pension to PROTECT. This would be considered a beneficial interest in the outcome for his personal being. WE ALL HAVE THIS. Hope this helps. I always throw it all out there.

      • macy says:

        Hello- Would love to learn more about how to recuse as well so any info would be greatly appreciated. Also- food for thought- when your note was securitized/converted to a stock- did the alleged lender disclose that to you? if they did not- wouldn’t that make a contract null and void? Here’s something else I was thinking about, if your signature monetized the note and they converted your note into a stock-shouldn’t you receive proceeds from that stock? Just thinkin’ out loud.

      • Snowstorm says:

        To add: I am recusing because the FEDERAL JUDGE is allowing the FRAUDULENT AFFIDAVITS and THREE Mortgage Documents and the ILLEGAL DISCHARGE of mortgage in. I have shown absolute certified PROOF that it is all BOGUS BULL S – – -! So, I am stating that this was presented to the court as a FRAUD UPON THE COURT, and he is allowing it?? NO, NOT IN MY LIFETIME. This is now FRAUD BY THE COURT. He has not given me the PROTECTION of the LAW, under the Constitution. You bring fraudulent documents to court, you lose. Under Title 28 Section 455, or Section 144: The general rule is that to warrant recusal, a judge’s expression of an opinion about the merits of the case. Like what he said??? Just google (Judicial disqualification) or (Recusal in the United States courts). It’s easy to catch them, cause they think we are all just STUPID.

  4. Ace says:

    I Love my country and I will do what ever is necessary to protect my freedom from Fraudclosure and an out of control Government.

    Thieves, Liars and their ilk are not going to steal what THEY don’t own from ME.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdInwZQ2eFA

    GOD Bless America

  5. Snowstorm says:

    I SEE that it is already TOO LATE. Why? Can none of us find good REPRESENTATION to fight all our illegal foreclosures.? Interesting facts I learned on the radio show Sunday. They were saying that the Judge’s have an interest in the securities trusts as do the teachers, for their investments, in pensions, ect. ect. Is this true? Did I hear them correctly?. If so, then every Judge needs to be recused, as having a beneficial interest, that will deny our Constitutional Rights, ??? We will never win in courts, if this is true? Severe Conflict of interest. Anyone out there know this fact? Interesting concept. If all the judge’s across the country have this interest, NO ONE CAN FORECLOSE. ???? WHO?? Would enforce the courts? Maybe this will be our way to BRING THE HO– USE DOWN! ………..YES!… Let’s kick all their As- es OUT THE DOOR.

    • lvent says:

      Yes it is true, the judges pensions ARE invested in the mortgage fraud and so are the cops and fireman and undoubtedly MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. THERE IS AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND ILLEGAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST. THE FACT THAT THE GSE’S INVESTED IN THE MORTGAGES ALSO CREATES AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST. THE GOVERNMENT ALSO MUST CORRECT THE SITUTATION OF FRAUD AGAINST THE TAX-PAYERS-IF FORECLOSRES OCCURED BECA– USE OF TAX FRAUD-THE GOVERNMENT VIOLATED THE 6th AMENDMENT TAKINGS CLA– USE AS WELL AS THE 14TH AMENDMENT DUE PROCESS/PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THE U.S. CONSTITUTION. FORECLOSURES ARE ILLEGAL. RESCIND!!!!!!

      • Snowstorm says:

        Thank you !…I Vent. Then, that’s our answer when filing in court! That’s the biggest DEFENSE we have. No judge will ever allow us to win. I am going to court this Friday in New Jersey. I filed a Motion to dismiss the robo-signer-attorney of foreclosure. I asked for oral arguments so I am going to SHOCK the judge with this,.. just to see what her RESPONSE will be?? I’ll let you know what happens! We all need to file to have the Judge’s REC– USED, ONE by ONE. It’s the law. This is WHY no attorneys want to stick their NECKS out, as they will ruin their legal practice. A Judge is given protection to do the work of the Court as mandated under the Constitution and the Law. If the Judge refuses to recuse, file a Motion, file a Federal Civil Rights Lawsuit. If the Judge’s actions can be shown to be acting outside his judge’s role, then it is therefore NOT a judicial act, and he shall lose his judicial immunity. I and every American citizen have the absolute right under the First Amendment to criticize government officials without fear of vengeance or retirbution for doing so. These Judge’s are foreclosing one after another and WE THE PEOPLE are allowing it.

      • lvent says:

        Susan, someone at this website posted a comment and said there is a way you can find proof. I will look back in some of the past stuff. I have printed and collected alot of info if I thought if was important so I am pretty sure I saved that one. I will let ya know. You go, girl!!

      • lvent says:

        Susan, it does sound nuts to people who don’t get it. There is proof though and that is what makes us not nuts. The foreign jerks and treasonist traitors who did this to America just never thought they would get caught. Thank God for some honest Americans who do love this county and love freedom and respect our U.S.Constitution and our Bill fo Rights and the laws of the land..

    • housemanrob says:

      Snowstorm, Many of us have known that for a long time. We remember a now infamous comment, less than ayear ago from a female Palm Beach County judge who said……..” I haven’t seen any widespread fraud”. You should havw seen her financial portfolio. Good to hear from you………..Rip Van Winkle. LoL

      • Snowstorm says:

        Yea, I deserved that one. But I am new to this. When I first came on board, I was actually afraid of you guys?? LOL I had never heard of any of this stuff, and I thought you all were radicals? LOL Now, I am getting informed, and YOU ALL ARE RIGHT. This is sad I am a perfect example, This is not in the NEWS ? My friends think I’m NUTS?

      • housemanrob says:

        Snowstorm, I have become a fuckin’ radical………..so you were right in the ferst place!

      • housemanrob says:

        YOUR FRIENDS ARE STILL ASLEEP! I KNOW MANY MORE……..ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

      • incognito123 says:

        Yup, like housemanrob says, many (I say most) are still asleep, and following what they are told, I call them sheeple. I keep telling them to wake up, but they are still too programmed to see it . . . . . YET – we must all keep plugging away to wake them up!!!!!

      • lies all of it says:

        snowstorm radicals?????? so funny i am a nurse for 25 years. this should not be happening. but research is my friend . i am still in my house. i was told by wells fargo to stop paying to be in eminent default brfore they can help me with a hamp loan. that shouid null and void my contract. right. reaserch,

    • not only is that true, I have seen some artilcles on it somewhere and I have a deadline to get my Pro Se case into the Appeals court , so I will not go back right now and try to find it. I will come across it when I put my case together and put it on the internet again for you. There is also proof the judges are paid over eighty percent of their wages from foreclosure fees. only ten percent comes from the general fund. I can not prove that right now either. But when I find the two articles that have back up info . I will post it. Not one of these judges should have ruled on any foreclosure. When they know they are a conflict of interest, they have to recuse themselves without being asked to. There is law about this also and I have pieced a lot of it into an oversized brief I am consolidating and focusing on with very little time on the web from now on. I am just taking a brain break right now.. You are correct non of these judges shoud be judging for foreclosures, by the constitution and the case law that backs it. I will post the case law when I find it also. Remember I am Pro Se and am not an attorney. I am learning the hard way.

    • lies all of it says:

      snow man what state are youin. please write oyur AG we neeed the word out. i wrote pam bindi today told her about the notes and stocks can not co exists which makes our mortgage notes null and void. that is what is causing the robosigning scnadle please help write the AG;s lets get a national foreclsoure mortitorium. we must our children need to livein peace

      • Snowstorm says:

        My name is SNOWSTORM not SNOWMAN. I am a woman. I have two cases, one in New Jersey and one in Indiana. Yes, I am filing documents to the Indiana AG soon. I suggested some time ago, for us to UNITE. We must advertise on CRAIGS LIST to get the People in GREAT numbers to participate. If we got one million people to donate $10.00, we would have $10 million to fight with.
        Get 20 million people and we have $20 million dollars. Money talks, it can’t sing and dance, but it can talk. Then maybe we’d have a chance? Just a thought.

  6. Ron Moss says:

    “Congress shall have power to coin money and regulate the value thereof” That may set up a different set of problems but at least we will be able to fire the money manager. Try to not elect Ben Bernanke now] And we won’t have to pay interest on the debt, cause there won’t be one.

    • lvent says:

      Paulson,Bernanke, Geithner, and CONgress are not only treasonist traitors but they are some of the biggest sheisters in history. Benedict Arnold’s ALL OF THEM. TRAITORS AND TREASONIST POSING AS AMERICANS, THEY ARE EVERYWHERE.

      • We need a Sarah Palin, or Cain, or Michelle Bachman as our leader. I dont trust the core republcians nor the radical democrates. They are all groomed and bought and paid for. If Florida re ups Nancy McLain, they are all nuts. If no one runs against her, the people of Florida need to put a runner in her place if it is donald duck. Attorney General Tom Miller has received to much money from the banks and excepted it to be honest, and has done next to nothing as leader of the attorney generals. Attorney General Rob Mc Kenna from Washington state has done nothing to be impressed with and is running for Governor. He has not made a stand for the victims in this state. Governor Chirs Greguiore just put a “foreclosure fairness act together. that her group is so happy with, because Bank of America states they want to work with us fairly, and let us know if we qualify for a mod. Just how pathetic is that? Almost everyone in bank of America is subject to felonies even if they are the janitor. THe bill is not a victims survival bill or protection bill, it is a foreclosure fairness bbullshit bill”. The banks can nicely tell us they have ruined our incomes and our credit and we are in default so we deserve foreclosure. I am not impressed at all. I will be impressed when the banksters and every paid politician are in double bracelets. I am trying to get an appointment with Pam Roach right now. We need to put active groups together to discuss the crimes and crime scenes. Like the recorders office, which is one huge crime scene

      • lvent says:

        I don’t know about Palin she bought a fraudclosure and I don’t think that she gets it. The country is in the midst of FORECLOSUREGATE and she buys someones stolen home? I think she is a gamer.. CNN reported Bachman supposedly recieved alot of government money for some farm her family owns after she bitched and moaned about everyday people should not be getting government money for the same things she got money for. I think the Repub/Dem paradigm is completely corrupt and broken. Cain seems like he gets it but who knows. They are going to try to trick us and deceive us for sure. Nobody should use the electronic voting. That is completely untrustworthy and rigged. I read the votes get counted electronically in Israel if you can believe that. We The People should be counting our own paper ballots here in America. There should be no electronic vote counting allowed. The whole election system is a disaster. The electoral college is a joke. The president should be elected by popular vote. The electoral college is a sham and a fraud. They have the country brainwashed into believing we elect the president. We vote, we don’t elect..

    • Readdocs says:

      The interest paid goes right back into the Treasury. It negates itself.
      And now look at this coming out of Florida.

      http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=189362

      • lvent says:

        Readdocs, It is about time we make a stand. They are getting away with the robbery of our freedom. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!

      • housemanrob says:

        Thanks Readocs, We need more parties with visions of regaining our freedom! But the PATRIOT ACT (aka “THE TYRANNY ACT”) . MUST GO NOW! Until it is repealed, this country is not even a shell of the free country we once were!

      • housemanrob says:

        If only we could try RUMSFELD, CHENEY, RICE, ASHCROFT , ROVE, BUSH AND W BUSH………….FOR TREASON!

      • lvent says:

        Yes!!!!! The PATRIOT ACT needs to go. Obama should not have signed that and CONgress is completely corrupt and useless…

  7. housemanrob says:

    I have some answers……….I am a former republican………DO NOT EVER VOTE FOR ANOTHER REPUBLICAN, TEA PARTY CANDIDATES OR ANYBODY FROM ANY REPUBLICAN THINK TANK………LEGISLATION FORCING LOBBYISTS……..LIKE CARL ROVE…..TO IDENTIFY…ALL…OF CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTORS BY NAME……STOP THE FOREIGN WARS AND SPEND ALL THOSE TRILLIONS ON THINGS LIKE…..REBUILDING DECAYED INFRASTRUCTER, SOCIAL PROGRAMS. HEALTH AND MEDICARE, EDUCATION…AND MOST OF ALL…..HELPING YOUNG VETS FIND THEIR WAY BACK INTO THE HUMAN RACE. HOLD THE HO– USE AND THE CONGRESS ACCOUNTIBLE FOR ALL DECISIONS, DAMNIT! CUT THEIR PAY IF WE HAVE TO,LIVE BY THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND THE CONSTITUTION……AND…JUST AS IMPORTANT……LET THE TBTF BANKS GO BROKE AND SEND THE GUILTY TO JAIL!

    • lvent says:

      THE GOVERNMENT — USES AND AB– USES US. WAKE UP AMERICA. YOUR LIVING UNDER A FASCIST TYRANNY, A COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIP. YOU HAVE BEEN ENSLAVED BY FAKE DEBT AND TAXES THAT THE NEW WORLD ORDER CREATED OUT OF THIN AIR TO TRY AND OWN YOU AND OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY. . TRAITORS IN CONGRESS DEVISED THE PONZI SCHEME AND HAD IMF OWNED FANNIE AND FREDDIE SET YOU UP TO FAIL AND SOLD YOUR MORTGAGE DEBT TO THE FOREIGNERS. TO BAD FOR THE TRAITORS, THERE IS AN AMERICAN SIDE TO THIS THAT NEVER PERFECTED THEIR COLLATERAL LIEN. A NATION IS AT WAR IS NOT FREE. THE MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX CREATES WAR TO CREATE UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT FOR AMERICA. A COUNTRY THAT IS IN DEBT IS NOT FREE. AL QUAIDA IS A LIE. THE FOREIGN TERRORISTS ARE HIDING FROM WITHIN OUR OWN GOVERNMENT POSING AS AMERICANS… THEY ARE TREASONIST TRAITORS. . THEY DO NOT WORK FOR YOU.

      • lvent says:

        CONGRESS THROUGH AMERICA UNDER THE BUS. WAKE UP PEOPLE.

      • housemanrob says:

        They figured out we were suckers when the pharmaceuticals all started advertising that one side effect of their medicines is death……………and the people bought it and the doctor’s prescribed it anyhow!

      • lvent says:

        When a drug or cancer commercial comes on, I turn them off. I think they are designed to make you sick and die.

      • housemanrob says:

        Vent, ha ha ha……….How about macdonalds. MY cousin sold all of his old used up dairy cows to them! They bought them all because their meat is not USDA inspected. Arby’s is all USDA rejected! GOSPEL!!

      • housemanrob says:

        I fear we will have to go to war because we are all EXPENDABLE!

      • Readdocs says:

        Starting last year, MacDonalds’ began buying all of their beef from South America. They do
        not buy American beef anymore. Good reason to not patronize their franchises.

      • housemanrob says:

        Readdocs, I have received info that two of the biggest cattle owners in Argentina are……….Ted Turner and Wayne Huizenga! Now I know why Ted loves Dogo Argentino canines so much. Thanx.

      • lvent says:

        Rob, rumor around here for years is McDonalds is kangaroo meat. It is hard to tell what it is. I remember a couple of month’s ago a headline on my local news channel said there was an investigation into why Taco Bell meat does not resemble real meat. I don’t trust the stuff.

      • Readdocs says:

        You might also want to wonder about the chicken used at McDonalds….as Pilgrims’
        has lost their contract with them. Maybe the chicken is coming from China.

      • lvent says:

        Readdocs, Alot of stuff we ingest comes from China. I used to love Arizona Green Tea until I went to 7-11 one night to pick up some and the clerk showed me the Chinese symbol on the front of the bottle and told me it is made in China. He said he makes his own tea. I searched the bottle to see where it was made and there is just a number to call if you have any questions. I quit buying it and the strangest thing happened. My husband and I used to get up in the morning sore, I mean he used to yell out in pain and we were tired all of the time. He was always napping.. As soon as we stopped drinking it no more pain and no more feeling tired. Remember the dog food from China that was killing the dogs a couple of years ago? I think Coke and Pepsi are not made here anymore either. It is all bad.

      • lvent says:

        BTW, Now I drink Snapple.

      • housemanrob says:

        If ever I was to eat MacDonalds’ junk food………..I do not…..ever,but the thought of KANGAROO MEAT, SURE MAKES ME JUMPY! ha

    • lies all of it says:

      house being incongress was not suppose to be a pernenant job

  8. Jefferson's Legacy says:

    Let’s start:

    Everyone with “clouded title” go to the local store, get some white contact paper, cut out “clouds”, peel & stick to front door, window, mailbox, etc. (There’s at least 60 million plus homes clouded by MERS alone.) Nothing more…questions will start to arise: what are all those clouds? Why these clouds represent all the homes & properties that have “clouded titles”. Seeing is believing…a silent but loud form of a revolution.

    A form of notice, of knowledge, of our “waking up” and letting TPTB know we are becoming united and informed….we will stand up and protect our homes, our families, our community and our country. Have a contest of the best, most unique, craziest, funniest display…have some fun and be proud! Imagine driving around your community and seeing all the clouds! Imagine the “noise” of our elected officials when they see all the clouds!

    May the next July 4th be our Independence Day!

    • avonics says:

      Yes, GREAT IDEA!! But we ALL have to do something…..yes, it will take some money spending but we need to organize a total gathering of the US and pick one day and make it public!! May be a while before something is actually done but at least everyone else will know what is really going on here!

  9. housemanrob says:

    Our sociapathic leaders fight phony freedom wars (they are about power) and our children are being sacrificed fot this……….we cannot even take care of our own! Does anybody out there know what happened to all of the people who who used to live in new orleans 9th ward? Last I saw of them rhet were all geeting on buses…..to where?

    • lvent says:

      Some of them came to Chicago. Many of them were being housed in a suburban mental hospital not far from my home, until they could find jobs and a place to live. You just can’t make this stuff up.

      • housemanrob says:

        And how of them are housed in PRISON FEMA CAMPS!

      • lvent says:

        God only knows what happened to them. Just like the fraudclosures Rob, it was all done very quietly and sneaky. That is why I say most people do not know how many people are in court losing their homes everyday. They are going to wake up one day to a big surprise when all of their neighbors are suddenly gone. This is strategic class warfare and THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT IS ALLOWING THIS. THEY ARE ALLOWING THE FOREIGNERS, THE NEW WORLD ORDER, TO TAKE AMERICA OVER WITHOUT EVER FIRING A SHOT.

      • lvent says:

        THE NEW WORLD ORDER HAS INFILTRATED EVERYTHING. THEY ARE HIDING BEHIND THE SCENES OF THE BIGGEST FOREIGN LAND GRAB IN AMERICAN HISTORY AND OUR POLITICIANS ARE ALLOWING THIS BECA– USE THEY ARE EITHER TREASONIST TRAITORS OR THEY ARE MEMBERS OF THE NEW WORLD ORDER. IF WE THE PEOPLE ALLOW THIS, WHAT WILL THEY DO TO US NEXT?.

  10. housemanrob says:

    UNLESS FEARLESS LEADERS APPEAR NOW, FREE OF THE ENCUMBRANCE OF GREED AND POWER…………….IT WILL LEAD TO WAR AND REVOLUTION……………..NOW! PREPARE TO RISE UP AS ONE……………..AND SEIZE BACK OUR COUNTRY…..WITH FORCE………….THEY CAN STOP ME………OR YOU……. BUT THEY CANNOT DEFEAT ALL OF US! (although they probably think they can….for we are peasants)

  11. lvent says:

    Instead of watching the Casey Anthony trial today or filling our day with other meaningless distractions, the History Channel has a miniseries on called The Revolution. We could all learn exactly why and what our forefathers fought and died for. Freedom from tyranny. The same tyranny we are all living under right now.

    • lvent says:

      The miniseries is on History International, HI. Time for WE THE PEOPLE to remove all of the Benedict Arnold’s and there are alot of them.

      • lies all of it says:

        HEY ALL THEY PLAY ON OUR IGNORANCE . we are above them now we know more. we need to spread the word our share info. post sites and write you AG if need be daily. write write write we need to tell them we are tired of this purge on america. our children did nothing wrong, do not continue breaking up families. our children deserve to stay in their home. just becuase mom or dad lost their job. save america do not stay silent anymore. write everyone we must make them listen to us

    • TheHutMaster says:

      Well said! Why we (not me) need to watch the Casey Trial is beyond me.

      Happy Independance Day to All our Fighters!

      “Fight he Good Fight”
      Every Minute, Every Day!

      • lvent says:

        Happy 4th, HutMaster. I pray America wakes up on the 5th and sees the tyranny they are living under.

      • housemanrob says:

        They will awaken Vent…………..but will it be too late?

      • lvent says:

        If we let them get away with this, AMERICA will be done. There will be no more freedom and only foreign tyranny, a totalitarian, Orwellian existance for us. We will be a nation of renters and the foreigners will own and control everything. They don’t own us yet, but if we don’t fight for our homes and our rights and the return of our stolen wealth, they will take America over with out ever firing a shot and then they will consider us cowards like the Nazi’s did to the Jews and we will all be really fighting for our lives. The people are really going to let them tell us this is the way our life is going to be, this is the NEW NORMAL? Eric Holder already said we are a nation of cowards so he already told us what they think of us. What I found out in my research was 4 people control the world via proxies and a very reputable government authority figure so to speak told me those 4 people own us. That was a quite deceptive statement in itself because they don’t own us yet, but THEY WILL and they fully intend to if the people do not revolt against that tyranny.

      • housemanrob says:

        My neighborhood used to be a giant block party festival on the 4th of July. Tonight it is as quiet as a churchmouse………….save a few Rice Krispies crackles and pops! WAKE UP PEOPLE!

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