Now, don’t any of you go gettin any crazy ideas!
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Judge in Daytona targeted by man in foreclosure case
DAYTONA BEACH — Senior Judge Pope Hamrick handled a foreclosure case back in June, one of dozens.
The veteran jurist, a member of The Florida Bar for more than 40 years, ruled in favor of a bank in a foreclosure. Hamrick never expected that the person foreclosed upon, Patricio E. Sanchez, would file a lien and judgment against him in court.
But that’s just what happened. Patricio E. Sanchez
Hamrick was shocked to learn the lien — claiming a debt of $350,000 — was even recorded against him.
The man who filed it, Sanchez, 58, of Deltona is a registered sexual offender. Sanchez was immediately summoned back to court to explain why he “willfully filed and recorded the false and fraudulent liens and judgment.”
The judgments were filed against Hamrick and two attorneys who had represented Chase Home Finance in the foreclosure.
Sanchez was jailed for 179 days for contempt of court.
Full story here…
“Judgment” below…
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I vent….Her name and address came up with 2 women in Chicago area.(..the other did not give ‘ m’ for middle name and she was 75 years old…so I passed that one up..)… it did list her husband…..I googled his name and a football team from Illinois came up first…it showed a 20 year old guy with the same name as her husband’s full name…but did not say ‘ JR ‘….may be a grandson….he also was from Chicago…so that just may be her that came up with the address….but I still think to get to her you have to get to the title Co…..
I vent……keep this with your notes…just in case you may need it..http://www.whitepages.com/name/Patricia-M-Picard/Chicago-IL/3xgsv4k
First Sovereign Citizen is an oxymoron. The word Citizen is synonymous with subject. You can’t be the Sovereign and the subject.
The term “citizen,” as understood in our law, is precisely analogous to the term “subject” in the common law, and the change of phrases has entirely resulted from the change of government The sovereignty has been changed from one man to a collective body of people, and he who before was a subject of the king is now a citizen of the state. “Citizens,” under our Constitution and laws, means free inhabitants born within the United States or naturalized under the laws of Congress. United States v. Rhodes (U. S.) 27 Fed. Cas. 7S5, 788 (citing 1 Kent, Comm. 292, note
You are simply the Sovereign. The STATE is not the sovereign regardless of what they say. It is for a simple reason. The State is a body politic. It is a legal fiction.
From Calvin’s Case decided by Lord Coke. This is controlling case law.
A body politique (being invisible) can as a body politique neither make nor take homage: Vide 33 Hen. 8. tit. Fealty, Brook. 5. In fide, in faith or ligeance nothing ought to be feigned, but ought to be ex fide non ficta
Second you can lien a judge and plaintiffs . It just has to be done the right way.
A lien (by operation of law) already exists by virtue of their Oath of Office aka Official Bond.
If you want to collect. You need to Sue in assumpsit on an action of covenant.
Observe….
A practical treatise on abstracts and examinations of title to real property
…under “Liens Charges and Encumbrances” there is a section for official bonds
§ 13. Official Bonds. A peculiar class of liens arises in many States from official bonds, which are declared to be liens on all the real estate held jointly or severally by the officers giving same, from the time of filing same until such officers shall have been honorably discharged from their trusts. These bonds are most frequently required from collectors of* taxes, and it would seem, that where &ny of the parties vendors named in the abstract, during the period in which an action may be brought on an official bond, have held this position, or have been a surety for any such officer, an examination should be made for liens of this nature. As the bonds are required to be filed or recorded in some of the designated public offices of the county, the files or records should be regularly inspected as often as occasion may require, and references obtained to the information thereby disclosed.
As you can see there is an pre-exsiting lien on their property by virtue of their oath of office. But how to collect?
You have to sue for the Tort of Breach of Covenant (which is considered a contract under seal) but the fastest way to the money is an election of remedy where you can sue in assumpsit debt.
Encyclopedia of Law and Procedure
2. Arising From Contract — a. Covenant or Debt or Assumpsit.9 Where covenants are secured by a penalty, the obligee may sue in debt for the penalty, or bring an action on the covenants ;10 and generally, where a right to money compensation accrues by reason of a breach of covenant, such compensation may be obtained either by action of covenant or by action of assumpsit.
None of this can be had though unless you prove either the judge did perform a necessary ministerial duty.
and/or acted without jurisdiction.
Contrary to popular belief Jurisdiction given to the court via the complaint of the plaintiff. It is not the authority of the STATE.
The easiest mode of attack is the lack of a competent witness i.e. lack of affidavit. Without this there is not even the color of law and thus no jurisdiction.
REBUT EVERYTHING AND DEMAND COMPETENT WITNESS WITH FIRST HAND DIRECT KNOWLEDGE.
A notary’s signature is presumptively authentic NOT CONCLUSIVELY. It is the judge’s ministerial duty to verify the case has a competant witness presenting evidence that would be admissible at trial. Without it all the above is in full effect and the lien doesn’t need to be filed it only needs to be executed.
Indioo 7 that is great information..What do you think about a State Notary Public also being an escrowee for the title company? It states under Illinois Notary Law that it is a “prohibited act” for a Notary to Acknowledege any instrument in which the notary’s name appears as a party to the transaction….Affix his signature to a blank form, affidavit, or certificate of acknowledgement and deliver that form to another person with the intent that it be used as an affadavit or acknowledgement…….Change anything in a written instrument after it has been signed…..
The mortgage has been clearly altered on its face from the original in my possession…and my initials forged..Forgery has occured in many recorded docs with her name on that doc claiming that she is the Escrowee…..The Notary who claims to have witnessed the signing at the refi is also the Escrowee for the title company…My husband recently spoke to loan officer from the Bank who said there definitely was no notary at the closing…
Simply explicitly deny the authenticity of the document and signature by affidavit. Deny the contents. Deny the event happened period. The opposing party will have to drag the notary in there to testify that that he witnessed it it. You will be able to cross examine. He will also have to testify as to whether he recognizes the document and it’s contents.
Notarized documents are self-authenticating. taht simply means the notary isn’t required to ome in and authenticate the signature to support a judgment UNLESS it’s contested. Evidence that isn’t self authenticating REQUIRES a witness to authenticate it’s validity and the circumstances surrounding it. They need to be a direct witness.
The lawyers always get you with presumptions of law and legal fictions.
Thank You Indioo7…I would like to subpoena the notary who is also the Escrowee for the title company…If I am understanding Notary Law correctly….that alone is a criminal act. It is a prohibited act to witness documents and also be a part of a transaction…I have good reason to believe the title committed the altering of docs after the closing. I have proof of the alterations from the Original..and attorney told me with that altered mortgage doc, the Judge should give me clear title to my home……the Escrowee is who records the mortgage and the lien at the recorders office…and no one ever recorded an assignment in 18 years, just a mortgage…
Indioo7, you ar e so right about the presumptions of law and legal fictions…Just like in order to fight my motion to dismiss on all of the fraud…the pretender lender tried to enter the “original” note as evidence…with no affadavit, no assignment…the note is a forgery…the judge let them enter it as evidence and the judge called it an instant action… and gave me 21 days to respond…I think it is unreal what the judges are allowing these pretender lender attorneys to enter as evidence to take away someones home… which all really amounts to no more than hearsay…it is not evidence of anything at all. I believe that what these judges are allowing could be considered criminal.. and this proves to me that no one is safe, even if you think that you paid your home off… anyone could come up with a note at anytime and say that you owe them money…
Your answer should under oath demand the validity of the document and all it contains.. You should petition the court to hold opposing party in contempt for entering false into the record. Demand an evidentiary hearing for the same so as the court can discover the true provenance of the note.
The most common mistake is failing to make an affidavit that puts facts down that back up the complaint/petition /demand.
The ourt can ignore pleadings . They can not ignore facts. The only thing that are facts are under oath. Don’t get sucked into being a lawyer, BE A WITNESS.
Indioo7, Thank You for the great advice…The judge told another pro se defendant that he will treat him as he would any other attorney. I believe that is a lie, I have tried to bring to the judges attention the foreclosure fraud, the altering of docs from the original filing by the pretender lenders attorney and the altering of docs from the Original closing an attorney told me that I can file a motion to dismiss on the altering of docs….The judge refuses to bear witness to the fraud and forgeries…the criminal aspect of this case…All of the fraud and forgeries are apparent on the face of these documents and the pretender lenders attorneys have gone as far as to stamp over the fraud and forgeries from the original filing…The judge is ignoring it….He told me that I have to prove it…and he dismissed my motion without prejudice and allowed the bank attorney to enter the note..It was appalling…..If the forgery is apparent on the face of the docs you should not need an affadavit…I believe it was the title company who committed all of the forgeries and altering of docs…Worst part there are no attorneys fighting for us, and they all know it..I had an attorney tell me don’t even bother going to court..you can’t go into a shootout not armed for battle..he told me just file bk and you are guaranteed to stay in your home until Sept 2012..you cant win with or without and attorney your chances of winning are like winning the lottery HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE…when they have already admitted all of their wrong doing and that they don’t have the notes and they multiple pledged the notes into unsustainable debt?…..This has to be stopped, they are flat out stealing our homes and country for debt WALL STREET created that WALL STREET can never pay back… ..Another attorney told me if the economy gets any worse it won’t matter who is in foreclosure it will be Anarchy…This is all simply out of control..a run away train.
I VENT……i DID SEE WHERE A PATRICIA PICARD IN HER 70’S PASSED AWAY IN FLORIDA RECENTLY….I SAW THIS ON SEARCH….WILL LOOK AND SEE IF IT WAS HER WITH MIDDLE NAME M……..
That sounds just a little bit too convenient and too suspicious…If that is the “story” they gave that she croaked down in Florida then, I would have to subpoena the Title Companies records of her employment…..and they would be liable for the fraud and forgeries…and the destruction to my title if she was their employee…..
The owners policy never expires…an attorney told me that owners policy is more valuable than the warranty deed…
I vent…I found it but I would say it wasn’t her……plus this one did not give meddle name……I would say she retired and could be living anywhere now….maybe still in Illinois….to bad you can’t check on driver’s license for state….what about property records for that county
I can just call the the office she was employed at…and ask them how I can reach her…I think she and they are all a big sham and a big fraud….These title companies never did anything they were supposed to do…
I VENT…….it mentioned 3 names and years and she did start in 1974….I don’t know the proceedure or how they work on this…but it listed I believe where she worked at that time…1994..safeco ins. co….and from 1998 to end of 2010 with western surety….so it does look like she retired…..that was about 37 years….
LMAO Marilyn…Now that I believe..Patricia Picard was one busy woman….
Funny you should mention Western Surety..I .Iooked into them a while back…they are who guaranteed the receiver for our Commercial Property…I think a Politician owns Western Surety…Funny how this all lands in the lap of the U.S. GOVERNMENT…
She is probably a CIA agent…
I vent…Western an Chicago Title were in a big law suit Western accusing Chic. Title on wrong doing….and in another site it said Patricia Picard was in Cleveland OH court in another lawsuit….back when of course…but I would say Chicago Title is the one you need to go after…subpoena their records to start….just don’t contact them or speak to them…just wait to see what they produce in the subpoena…..
I vent…What was the last year you have found where she has notarized a document?
It looks like Western Surety could be a subsidiary of GE…….Patricia Picard was in court in Ohio? The bottom line and what I have been trying to say all along is they are all full of shit fraudsters…and they shouldn’t be fraudclosing on anybody….
Marilyn, it was 2007….she was the ESCROWEE on the HUD I settlement statement and she claims to be the Illinois notary who was at the closing of our re-fi with Amcore Bank…the closing was at Chicago T&T…My husband recently spoke with the loan officer from Amcore and he said there was no notary at the closing…She is also the ESCROWEE on the record of payments to public….and the release of mortgages conveyed to us by CITI and In Bank …we paid off IN BANK in 2004..it was not a mortgage, it was a $20,0000 line of credit…. all of that occured within months of each other in 2007…She has been the escrowee since the Origination in 1992…
I vent…It was not her….this was a doctor but same name…in that court case….went back and checked……I think this one just doctored notaries…LOL….well..I still say she had to be working at title co… the title co. would have all documents reqarding the property….wouldn’t you think??
It is so hard to pin point since so many did shady work….but with her signing all the documents as notary…..and Amcore said no notary was there…most or all title co. have a notary working for them…that is needed at the closing…course who knows what is going on when copies are being passed one right after another…like my daughter..they signed many many copies yet the ones they got had documents missing and none were signed…where the heck did these come from if the papers were all signed…it was like a scrap pile to be shreded….title co said the set of documents would be sent to them certified…that was BS….they never came….that would be the subpoena….I wanted to know where the recorded mortgage was or who they sent it to…the bank didn’t get it….I vent…this is so unbelievable that we are put thru all this for criminal acts done by others…it is disgusting.
Marilyn, it is unbelievable! Esp after they admitted to their crimes… the GSE’s have already publicly admitted to multiple pledging the notes into unsustainable debt….and the MBA publicly admittted to destroying the notes…because they had to once they sold the notes onto WALL STREET…this is just an ongoing crime spree and it is Unconstitutional and illegal and it has to be stopped. No attorneys for the people, no jobs for the people. The U.S . Government and the FED just continues shoving WALL STREETS $600 trillion in collateral fraud debt upon us to steal everything from the people…
I vent….Yes…the Mortgage Bankers Association did say that …IN FLORIDA….when they were begging for mercy from the higher court…begging to scam the people more…..they admitted the Notes were destroyed…..I am still having a problem trying to figure out why we have so many in the prison’s in every state for doing nothing as criminal or as massive as this crime and yet no one in the financial industry has felt the handcuffs clamping their wrists …..it puzzles me that Madoff got 150 years and everything stripped he had his name on…could it be he scammed the wealthly ?……Hmmmm….What other reason could it be ? Compare that crime to what has happened to this country and the world………..By the way I vent…did you save what Indio007 said ….be safe and keep that info…we are so blessed to have 4closureFraud…..I can’t imagine what we would do without it…Michael and Lisa are like guardian angels…without them we would be lost ….we have gained so much knowledge from this site……..
Yes Marilyn, I am so grateful to this website, Michael, Carol and Lisa and all of the other websites connected to this one..I am so thankful to Indioo7 and everyone here at this website including you Marilyn who continue to help me along the way…Yes Marilyn, It is 100% TRUE, THEY ADMITTED THEY DON’T HAVE THE NOTES….. COOK COUNTY SHERIFF TOM DART SAID IT ON CNN….THEY DON’T HAVE THE NOTES……! IF THEY SOLD THE NOTES OFF TO WALL STREET THEN, THEY DON’T HAVE THE NOTES, AND THERE SHOULD BE NO FRAUDCLOSURES!!! NO INDORSEMENT…NO NOTE….!
I vent….Oh yes…Carol…she is in my thoughts alot…I do not know her personally….but she has done such good…it is a shame that the other ones are running free without a care in the world…and by others that includes a whole lot of people…..we know who they are and they know we know who they are…but Carol is in my prayers…
ARTICLE #1: What is Sovereign Citizenship?
by Scott Eric Rosenstiel
What is Sovereign Citizenship? Sovereign Citizenship is the status held by our forefathers. George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and everyone else who won their freedom from the British Empire had this status. It was the birthright of all Americans, and we were generous in extending this most important right to foreign-born persons through the naturalization laws. With this status, our unalienable rights of life, liberty, and property couldn’t be infringed. During the Civil War a method was discovered by the leading attorneys, financiers, and politicians of the day to deprive us of this status. Fortunately, we can get it back.
This brings us to the question, “What are we getting back?” What does it mean to be a Sovereign Citizen?
The word “sovereign” is defined in the 6th edition of Black’s Law Dictionary, published in 1990, as being, “A person, body, or state in which independent authority is vested; a chief ruler with supreme power; a king or other ruler in a monarchy.” Prior to the War for American Independence, the British king was the sovereign and the American people were his subjects. The war’s outcome changed all this:
The sovereignty has been transferred from one man to the collective body of the people – and he who before was a “subject of the king” is now “a citizen of the State.”
State v. Manuel, North Carolina, Vol. 20, Page 121 (1838)
Thus, the people became Citizens of their respective states. But more importantly, for the first and only time in recorded history, the people were recognized as being the true sovereigns:
It will be sufficient to observe briefly, that the sovereignties in Europe, and particularly in England, exist on feudal principles. That system considers the prince as the sovereign, and the people as his subjects; it regards his person as the object of allegiance… No such ideas obtain here; at the revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects… and have none to govern but themselves…
Chisholm v. Georgia, Dallas’ Supreme Court Reports, Vol. 2, Pages
471, 472 (1793)
Each individual, at least so far as respects his unalienable rights is his own sovereign. These rights weren’t given to any government. In fact, they can’t be. Perhaps you can give up all of your rights, if you so choose, but who has the power to give your rights up for you? In America, no one can, because we’re all equal. In American this principle of popular sovereign is recognized by all governments – state and federal. When the states became independent, the state governments were formed, all of them based on the authority of the people, and not the will of one man or a small body of men. The federal government as we know it today was created in 1789 when the federal constitution went into effect. The constitution mentioned something previously unknown in American law: Citizenship of the United States:
The term, citizens of the United States, must be understood to intend those who were citizens of a state, as such, after the Union had commenced, and the several states had assumed their sovereignties. Before this period there was no citizen of the United States…
Manchester v. Boston, Massachusetts Reports, Vol. 16, Page 235
(1819)
Thus a Citizen of a state is, by the federal constitution, made a Citizen of the United States. This means the following:
A citizen of one state is to be considered as a citizen of every other state in the union.
Butler v. Farnsworth, Federal Cases, Vol. 4, Page 902 (1821)
A Citizen of any one of the states is considered and treated as being a Citizen of all of them. The phrase “Citizen of the United States” does not refer to a separate class of citizenship:
A citizen of any one of the States of the Union, is held to be, and called a citizen of the United States, although technically and abstractly there is no such thing. To conceive a citizen of the United States who is not a citizen of some one of the States, is totally foreign to the idea, and inconsistent with the proper construction and common understanding of the expression as used in the Constitution, which must be deduced from its various other provisions.
Ex parte. – Frank Knowles, California Reports, Vol. 5, Page 302 (1855)
Because of the principles enunciated in the above cases and others like them, it’s correct to say that the American people are Citizens of our respective states. But we’re more than this. We’re in a very real sense Citizens of all the states. We are, in the greatest sense, and proudly so,Citizens of the several United States.
This brings us to what are considered as being the rights inherent in Citizenship in America:
When men entered into a State they yielded a part of their absolute rights, or natural liberty, for political or civil liberty, which is no other than natural liberty restrained by human laws, so far as is necessary and expedient for the general advantage of the public. The rights of enjoying and defending life and liberty, of acquiring and protecting reputation and property, – and, in general, of attaining objects suitable to their condition, without injury to another, are the rights of a citizen; and all men by nature have them.
Douglass, Adm’r., v. Stephens, Delaware Chancery, Vol. 1, Page 470 (1821)
These are the rights inherent in Sovereign Citizenship. So long as we remained Citizens, they couldn’t be taken away from us. So the key was to take our Citizenship away from us.
Righ on Shelley!!! what the NWO wants is communism….a nation of renters…
WOW! LIKE SOVEREIGN CITIZENS ARE LIKE AN EPIDEMIC?
ARTICLE #1: What is Sovereign Citizenship?
by Scott Eric Rosenstiel
What is Sovereign Citizenship? Sovereign Citizenship is the status held by our forefathers. George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and everyone else who won their freedom from the British Empire had this status. It was the birthright of all Americans, and we were generous in extending this most important right to foreign-born persons through the naturalization laws. With this status, our unalienable rights of life, liberty, and property couldn’t be infringed. During the Civil War a method was discovered by the leading attorneys, financiers, and politicians of the day to deprive us of this status. Fortunately, we can get it back.
This brings us to the question, “What are we getting back?” What does it mean to be a Sovereign Citizen?
The word “sovereign” is defined in the 6th edition of Black’s Law Dictionary, published in 1990, as being, “A person, body, or state in which independent authority is vested; a chief ruler with supreme power; a king or other ruler in a monarchy.” Prior to the War for American Independence, the British king was the sovereign and the American people were his subjects. The war’s outcome changed all this:
The sovereignty has been transferred from one man to the collective body of the people – and he who before was a “subject of the king” is now “a citizen of the State.”
State v. Manuel, North Carolina, Vol. 20, Page 121 (1838)
Thus, the people became Citizens of their respective states. But more importantly, for the first and only time in recorded history, the people were recognized as being the true sovereigns:
It will be sufficient to observe briefly, that the sovereignties in Europe, and particularly in England, exist on feudal principles. That system considers the prince as the sovereign, and the people as his subjects; it regards his person as the object of allegiance… No such ideas obtain here; at the revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people; and they are truly the sovereigns of the country, but they are sovereigns without subjects… and have none to govern but themselves…
Chisholm v. Georgia, Dallas’ Supreme Court Reports, Vol. 2, Pages
471, 472 (1793)
Each individual, at least so far as respects his unalienable rights is his own sovereign. These rights weren’t given to any government. In fact, they can’t be. Perhaps you can give up all of your rights, if you so choose, but who has the power to give your rights up for you? In America, no one can, because we’re all equal. In American this principle of popular sovereign is recognized by all governments – state and federal. When the states became independent, the state governments were formed, all of them based on the authority of the people, and not the will of one man or a small body of men. The federal government as we know it today was created in 1789 when the federal constitution went into effect. The constitution mentioned something previously unknown in American law: Citizenship of the United States:
The term, citizens of the United States, must be understood to intend those who were citizens of a state, as such, after the Union had commenced, and the several states had assumed their sovereignties. Before this period there was no citizen of the United States…
Manchester v. Boston, Massachusetts Reports, Vol. 16, Page 235
(1819)
Thus a Citizen of a state is, by the federal constitution, made a Citizen of the United States. This means the following:
A citizen of one state is to be considered as a citizen of every other state in the union.
Butler v. Farnsworth, Federal Cases, Vol. 4, Page 902 (1821)
A Citizen of any one of the states is considered and treated as being a Citizen of all of them. The phrase “Citizen of the United States” does not refer to a separate class of citizenship:
A citizen of any one of the States of the Union, is held to be, and called a citizen of the United States, although technically and abstractly there is no such thing. To conceive a citizen of the United States who is not a citizen of some one of the States, is totally foreign to the idea, and inconsistent with the proper construction and common understanding of the expression as used in the Constitution, which must be deduced from its various other provisions.
Ex parte. – Frank Knowles, California Reports, Vol. 5, Page 302 (1855)
Because of the principles enunciated in the above cases and others like them, it’s correct to say that the American people are Citizens of our respective states. But we’re more than this. We’re in a very real sense Citizens of all the states. We are, in the greatest sense, and proudly so,Citizens of the several United States.
This brings us to what are considered as being the rights inherent in Citizenship in America:
When men entered into a State they yielded a part of their absolute rights, or natural liberty, for political or civil liberty, which is no other than natural liberty restrained by human laws, so far as is necessary and expedient for the general advantage of the public. The rights of enjoying and defending life and liberty, of acquiring and protecting reputation and property, – and, in general, of attaining objects suitable to their condition, without injury to another, are the rights of a citizen; and all men by nature have them.
Douglass, Adm’r., v. Stephens, Delaware Chancery, Vol. 1, Page 470 (1821)
These are the rights inherent in Sovereign Citizenship. So long as we remained Citizens, they couldn’t be taken away from us. So the key was to take our Citizenship away from us.
I see an old saying …TIT FOR TAT….ORIGINAL WAS TIP FOR TAP IN 15TH CENTRUTY…tit for tat was from the 16th century…so it has been around a long time…….tip means to hit..a shove…tap was a retaliatory hit…
Tit for tat…optimal strategy to guarantee corporation from the opponent….to give someone something equal to what was given to you…So Tit for Tat was something the judge and the lawyers deserved….if.the decision was unfair to the respondent…he felt he needed to respond …Foreclosed homeowners need to read what the court say’s…”..HE WILLFULLY FILED AND RECORDED THE FALSE AND FRAUDULENT LIENS AND JUDGEMENT.”
……SOUNDS VERY FAMILIAR….ISN’T THAT WHAT THE BANKS AND THE BANKS LAWYERS ( MILLS) HAVE DONE ALL ALONG???? AND THE COURTS HAVE GONE ALONG WITH THE CRIME?? IF IT WAS A CRIME WHAT SANCHEZ DID…THAN IT WAS A CRIME WHAT THE BANKS AND THE BANKS LAWYERS DID FROM THE START OF ALL FORECLOSURES…..INCLUDING THE JUDGES WHO AIDED AND ABETTED IN THE CRIME…GIVING THE CRIMINAL THE REWARD OF THE HOMES….WAKE UP AMERICA….THAT STATEMENT ALONE FROM THE COURT SAY’S IT ALL….THE BANKS AND THEIR LAWYER’S WERE STEALING THE HOMES….SANCHEZ WAS NOT STEALING ANYTHING……HE DID TIT FOR TAT……
NO GUTS, NO GLORY….!
We need masses of these type lawsuits to cause chaos for them like they have caused chaos in our lives…pass the popcorn, this is way better than any reality show that they try to distract us with.
I VENT…THE COURT GAVE IT ALL OUT IN THE OPEN….” WILLFULLY FILED AND RECORDED THE FALSE FRAUDULENT LIENS AND JUDGEMENT.”………THAT ALONE SPEAKS FOR ALL THE FORECLOSURES….THE BANKS WILLFULLY DID THE SAME THING BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF STEALING…..AND THE COURTS AIDED AND ABETTED IN THE CRIME….
Marilyn, they all have egg all over their faces yet again! Everyone STOP PAYING!!! The AMERICAN PEOPLE are losing their jobs because of what WALL STREET DID…AND THEIR HOMES….!!! WALL STREET committed massive fraud in our names…they are trying to steal our country under the guise of debt….it is their debt, not ours!!!! WALL STREET OWES.$600 TRILLION IN MORTGAGE FRAUD…WITH NOTHING BACKING THAT UP…….!!!!NATIONWIDE PROPERTY TAX REVOLT…MORTGAGE REVOLT!!!! CUT UP THE CREDIT AND DEBIT…TAKE YOUR MONEY OUT OF THE BIG BANKS……
Stop the FRAUDCLOSURES and send the crooks who caused this to prison!…..Hold the politicians who caused this accountable as well!
HAHAHAHA…PASS THE POPCORN……LOL…..IT SEEMS I LIVE ON POPCORN AND CHIPS WITH COKE DOING THIS CRAP…..AND COFFEE….BY THE WAY…I REALLY DUG INTO DAVID ICKE’S SITE..GOING BACK ON IT TONIGHT….ALOT OF INFO WAS LISTED TO GO ONTO….THAT GUY REALLY GETS MY ATTENTION…..
nothing like a little dose of their own medicine. Like they said though, you do something like this and they will lock your happy ass up. Put 100,000 people together and do it, you got a different story. Put 1,000,000 people together and file it against a Bank and you will have a different story. There is safety in numbers.
Obviously there is safety in a class if one can be found. Some in the judicial system need to have their attention span lengthened.
Funny thing about ‘after the fact’ punitive actions. SEC slapped a few employees for not calling Madoff out on his fraud. Madoff’s punishment seems to be overkill anyway if you want to compare with the banks fraud!. It was just someone else’s money, not their life but old Bernie is doing the time at Butner FCI, the medical facility elite of DOJ/FCI establishments. Banks and their rating agencies, insurance rubberstampers, etc. compounded old Bernie’s scams times a few billion or so, globally, and NO ONE is doing time!
One could say that old Bernie’s crime was one like the housing scam, SHOULD those victims know better than that? COULD they have recognized they were outside the norm and had no proof of their investments? WOULD they have blown the whislte as long as the money flowed into the favored few, intelligent, elitist, wealthy, investors. Why didn’t one of these drop a dime on old Bernie?
Come now. . . .
Where are criminal charges on banks for exponentially compounding other people’s money?
Can we make a citizens arrest or file a lien against the government for allowing the banks to steal our houses and squander investor’s money in their Ponzi scheme? There are a few that oughta be in there with old Bernie, like a Mozillo, for example?
NOW WAIT A COTTON PICKEN MINUTE!
Isnt this what the bankers are always doing to us? Hmmmm? And why dony they get the same? Sounds like a little BS and also discrimination?????
The court just works eh? Not to worry about fraudulent affidavits , people getting thrown into the street, lives destroyed, savings lost. It’s a process as efficient as German Gas chambers, staffed by indifferent folk who may be sorry but hey “we are just doin’ our jobs”. I admire Patricio’s sense of humor.
Why was this considered contempt of court?
CA– USE HE WENT AFTER THE CRIMINAL’S…….THE JUDGE HIMSELF AND THE FRAUDULENT SCUM LAWYERS……SO THEY GAVE IT A NAME TO COVER UP….SANCHEZ OPENED THE CAN OF WORMS WHEN THE COURT ACC– USED HIM OF FILING FALSE AND FRAUDULENT LIENS AND JUDGEMENT….THIS HAS BEEN THE PRACTICE OF THE BANKS AND BANKS LAWYERS AND THE JUDGES FROM THE START….THESE JUDGES NEED SOME STRONG WHIPA$$ FROM THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR HOMES…..AND THOSE NOW FIGHTING FORECLOSURES….
That’s right Marilyn…they assume we are a nation of cowards who are too afraid of the ESTABLISHMENT and we won’t fight back…..they fear fighters…!!!! Like Marcy Kaptur said…Property Law is POWER…They know that…and have tried very hare to hidde our rights and laws that were been put in place to protect us FROM THEM…..and they have people BRAINWASHED into thinking if you don’t pay the mortgage you have to get out……there is alot more to PROPERTY RIGHTS than that…A RECORDED MORTGAGE IS NOT ALL IT TAKES TO CREATE A LIEN…ANY ACT OF FRAUD IN A LEGAL CONTRACT DESTROYS THE LEGAL CONTRACT…NULLIFIES IT…..That is what they are hiding….that is why they wont allow the attorneys to fight for us…….It is up to ALL OF US..to fight all of these dirty bastards….!
LOL MARILYN…I NEED TO PROOF READ BETTER…THEY HAVE TRIED VERY HARD TO COVER OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS UP…IS WHAT I MEANT…
amen
I VENT…That is right….any act of fraud in a legal contract destroys the legal contract….nullifies it….this was told to my daughter from an well informed attorney from out of state….not in Florida…but he also said the fraud must be proven…not just shown. That is where you must file a subpoena to the Title Co. for all records they have…I agree that is where your real issue is…my daughters Title Co. had red flags waving….they requested the recorded mortgage back…NOT TO BE SENT TO BANK…AND THE SO CALLED BANK TOOK THE PROMISSORY NOTE…DIFFERENT FROM YOUR SITITUATION BUT THE TITLE CO WAS THE ONE WHO SAID TO SUBPOENA THEM TO GET THE DOCUMENTS AS THE PRIVACY ACT PROTECTED ANY INFORMATION TO BE GIVEN…IT HAS TO BE THRU SUBPOENA…..I WAS TOLD IT DOESN’T COST MUCH FOR A SUBPOENA….
Marilyn, I was able to print a SUBPOENA TO APPEAR AND TESTIFY AT A HEARING OR TRIAL IN A CIVIL ACTION… off of the internet…This website explains the.Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 45 (c), (d), and (e)…
http://www.ilnd.uscourts.gov/PUBLIC/Forms/AO_088A.pdf
I would like to subpoena the ESCROWEE from Chicago Title and Trust…..PATRICIA PICARD who is also an ILLINOIS NOTARY PUBLIC…..I e-mailed Chicago Title and asked how I could reach her…haven’t heard back….I believe she worked out of a local branch…5 minutes from my home….LMOA…
I vent……Cook County Ill…someone in 1997 was looking for her…this may be some link…. http://cook.ilgenweb.net/old_queries/reso.htm may be a link…if you email that person..pretend to be a friend looking for her…
Thanks for that Marilyn….I may just call them up and ask for her….and see what they tell me…I have been helping a friend who paid her house off make sure it really got paid off…there was only a partial release at the CCRof Deeds…and the clerk told her it was probably a mistake…yeah right…anyways she found a forgery of her husbands name by the title company and called them up…the title company admitted to forging the conveyance with her husbands signature and said they were just in a hurry and needed it signed….It is a conveyance of her mortgage to public..A Real Estate attorney friend of hers told her…… Oh well, you could have the girl fired but why would you want to do that? Unreal….her friend, who is an attorney, told her to turn a blind eye to and admission of FORGERY by the Title Company!!!
I vent..Just a thought…this Patricia Picard may not be the one using the stamp…like that law firm of Sterns…some said the stamps of notaries were all over the office…and none worked there….if one needed something notarized they just took any stamp used it and signed….and they said anyone can have a stamp made with any info on it…..maybe it was the Title Co. that used a fraudulent stamp of this Patricia Picard…a made up name….does the state have a site to check to see if one was or is a notary ? There has to be somewhere to check it out…..cause they are licensed….
I already checked…she was an Illinois Notary…her commission expired in 2010 and she is no longer active…
I VENT……http://cook.ilgenweb.net/old_queries/reso.htm THERE SHE IS IN COOK COUNTY….PATRICIA M. PICARD……..
Marilyn, what do you mean there she is..? I have made various inquiries to her whereabouts and have received no reponse…
I think PATRICIA M. PICARD must be a ghost..The loan officer from the closing told us there was no Notary at the closing…..he will swear to that…The closing was at the Chicago Title and Trust….LOL!!!
Can’t find her on Google search…
I vent…..Did you read Indio007….claims you can lien a judge and plaintifs…it just has to be done the right way….and it explains how it is done……..this old judge will have a hear attack if others start filing the leins… .what I meant was I had found her notary record….the link I sent you…but there was a Patricia M. Picard..a notary for sure….in Chicago….that she was no longer a notary…. I had not seen your comments cause I was digging on search…if she retired..no one will tell you…maybe privacy act….and the title co. would not want to even talk to you cause they know she worked for them…so they are hung….she had to work for them….you got her name all over the papers…someone told me a few years back that we could get an address of delivery from the post office …I will ask my daughter today what that deal was about…she gets scoop from alot of people….course now with so many moving and homeless it may not be the same….just give me time to speak to her today…
I vent…Here is a Patricia M. Picard…age 65+…W. 86th St….Chicago Il……this came up on search…now I am going to bed….
Thanks for that info Marilyn….I really appreciate it. There must be many Patricia Picards for all of the jobs shes had…It is not exactly a common name…It is like will the real Patricia Picard please stand up…It is meant to be confusing. Her name is all over the papers but I am still not convinced that she is the person who did all of this…and if she did she is a criminal..
I vent…..Do you see any difference in her signatures? I sometimes wonder if the notary even reads the documents in full…they probably scan what is important like area’s filled in…and it takes only a few minutes to stamp and sign. I had a very important document concerning my Mom’s estate that I handled…she died in Florida and I had gone back to Michigan. I took the document to my bank manager and he said cashier 2 will notarize it for you…cashier 2 did not even look what she was signing……stamp.. sign ..done…never asked for ID…and she did not know me as I did my banking at another branch. No one even asked if I had an account with that bank. When one has been on the job for years you learn short cuts…and she just maybe had some…if the signatures look alike….I would say she signed them……like Indio007 said …than the company will have to drag the notary into court…isn”t that what Indio said ? So that leaves the Title Co. the one you want… to get to her….
I vent…Reading over some of the comments….I had a crazy thought….maybe Patricia Picard is like another Nancy Green…..name is everywhere…..
Marilyn, the thought has crossed my mind that Patricia Picard could be a robo-signer. The signature is always exactly the same since1992…two big loops…I remember a while back Matt Weidner said to have your attorney subpoena the notary. It is clear that everything has been a scam from the Origination to the Fraudclosure. What is going on in the courtrooms is a just a big sham and a fraud too…This is an attempt to collect a debt…right there that tells you they are no more than a third party bill collector and have no legal right to take your home away…and when the Plaintiff joins the Defendant and claims MERS owns the loan…that is OUTRAGEOUS…. The Plaintiff claims they have the note but so does MERS…WTF? All meant to confuse…It is all a gigantic sham and a fraud…they are going to ALL HAVE HELL TO PAY..when they get caught up with..It is coming…that is why they are trying so hard to sneak in COMMUNISM…ALL HELL IS GOING TO BREAK LOOSE IF THEY DON’T STOP STEALING PEOPLES PROPERTY…And it might be done a hell of alot sneakier than they ever would imagine…..
I vent…I said ‘ my ‘ bank manager…it was ‘ the ‘ bank manager…it was not my branch.