I ALSO THINK THE LAST BANKRUPTACY WAS IN MID 90’S….CLINTON’S TIME…..NO WONDER HE WAS LET OFF THE IMPEACHMENT SO EASILY……..HE BENT DOWN FORWARD FOR THE NWO…..
lIES IS ALL THEY TELL…….http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_matrix_the_federal_reserve_the_banks_and_the_strawman.htm EXCELLENT !!!! EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS…EVERYONE…EVEN THOSE WHO ARE NOT YET IN FORECLOSURE…WHO OWN THEIR HOMES AND THOSE ALL IN FORECLOSURE….THIS TELLS IT ALL…THE MYSTERY OF WHO AND WHY THIS HAS ALL HAPPENED….THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT IS IN BANKRUPTCY…..CREDITORS BEING THE INTERNATIONAL BANKERS VIA THE UNITED NATIONS, THE WORLD BANK, THE IMF….THESE RECEIVERS OF THE BANKRUPTCY FORMED A NEW GOVERNMENT FOR THE U.S. THIS NEW GOVERNMENT KNOWN AS A DEMOCRACY BEING AN ESTABLISHED SOCIALISTS / COMMUNIST ORDER UNDER A NEW GOVERNOR FOR AMERICA. THIS ACT TRANFERRED THE OFFICE OF THE SEC. OF TREASURY TO THE GOVERNOR OF THE IMF….UNDER PUBLIC LAW THE U.S. SEC. OF TREASURY RECEIVES NO COMPENSATION FOR REPRESENTING THE U.S…..THEY OWN EVERYTHING…THE IRS…SOCIAL SECURITY…EVERYTHING….THAT IS WHY THERE HAVE BEEN NO ARREST OR INDICTMENTS TO THESE CRIMES….OUR GOVERNMENT IS NOT OUR GOVERNMENT…THEY ARE BOUGHT AND OWNED BY THE NWO….THE NWO IS NOT GOING TO ARREST ANYONE WHO HAS FOLLOWED THE ORDERS TO TAKE ALL THE HOMES FROM THE PEOPLE…
THE CREDITOR ON THE MORTGAGES IS THE INTERNATIONAL BANKERS…ALL A COMPLETE FRAUD….THAT IS WHY THERE HAVE BEEN NO CREDITOR IN COURT FOR THE FORECLOSURES…CA– USE THE CREDITOR WOULD HAVE TO YELL ‘ BANKRUPTCY PRECEEDINGS.’ THAT IS THE REASON FOR THE FORECLOSURES….TO TAKE IT ALL THROUGH THE BANKRUPTCY…..OUR GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED THE PEOPLE OF THE U S OF AMERICA….THEY ARE THE ENEMY OF TREASON….GOING BACK 30 YEARS OR SO……BUT PLEASE READ EVERYTHING THIS LINK TELLS…IT ANSWERS EVERYTHING…SAVE IT IN FAVORITES TO CONTINUE TO READ….PASS IT ON TO OTHERS…..WE HAVE BEEN SCAMMED BY WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS OUR OWN GOVERNMENT………THE ENEMY SITS IN WASHINGTON DC…….THIS COUNTRY BETTER WAKE UP FAST….AND BE READY…..SHUT THE FEDERAL RESERVE DOWN NOW….CUT THE CORD….THEY FEED THE CRIMINAL BANKS / WALLSTREET…….DROP THE MEMBERSHIP IN THE UNITED NATIONS…. THIS IS DISGUSTING….READ THE LINK AND YOU WILL SEE THE RABBIT HOLE GOES ALOT DEEPER…AND TO THINK THESE BASTARDS IN WASHINGTON ARE PLANNING FOR AN ELECTION…LOL…..MAYBE THEY BETTER PLAN ON HOW TO EXPLAIN TO THE PEOPLE ALL THE LIES THAT THEIR FILTHY MOUTHS HAVE SPEWED…..LINE THEM UP AND LETS GET IT OVER WITH….
i HAVE TO CHECK AGAIN..BUT I THINK
THE LAST PART..I HAVE TO CHECK…. I THOUGHT WAS DELETED..BUT IT SHOWED….INGNOR IT.
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 12:18 AM
Lie, deceive in order to steal…that is all they do..they are no more than a cabal of lying crooks…Dylan had a good show today..he interviewed a BBC reporter who wrote a book about the crooks at Goldman Sachs and all of the fraud they sell …The BBC reporter made a mention of section 4 of the Patriot Act prevents reporters from doing any real investigations…….I have to look into that one..The BBC reporter also said that Goldman Saks does business like a crime syndicate…LOL.. .We should all be screaming that the Patriot Act be repealed…it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL….Like Jesse Ventura said something like when the Government tells you they want to protect you, get ready because you are about to lose your rights…
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 12:54 AM
I found Title IV of the Patriot Act very interesting…it is FINCEN….which I have learned is U.N. black ops….This proves once and for all traitor politicians from within are trying to destroying America….and our U.S. CONSTITUTION and our U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS….The BBC reporter on Dylan’s show today said that Goldman Sachs is engaged in RACKETEERING ACTIVITY…..AND THEIR PROTECTION FROM AMERICAN MEDIA SCRUTINY LIES HERE: IN TITLE IV OF THE SO CALLED PATRIOT ACT…. http://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/patriot/index.html
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 1:30 AM
Title IV of the Un Patriot act proves to me that 9/11 was the cover up by the NWO for the massive derivatives fraud by their perps on Wall Street and the robbery of all of us…..the Patriot act also allows the banks tohide their ill gotten gains in overseas bank accounts…all they need to do is fill out a form….The Bank Secrecy Act which was implemented in the early 70’s, is also in Title IV, allows the banks to spy on us…any deposit over $10,000.00 must be reported to the Federal Government….
I VENT…….JUST READ SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS….SEE….THE TRAITOR POLITICIANS ARE THE ENEMY WITHIN…..NOW YOU SEE WHAT I READ ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION BEING DISSOLVED UNDER THE BANKRUPTCY? …..MAKES ONE OPEN THEIR EYES WIDE…..THAT IS WHY I QUESTIONED IT……
lvent
November 17, 2011 at 1:02 AM
SOMEONE MIGHT SCREW UP AND SEND THE ENDORSED COPY? WHY WOULD THEY HAVE AN EDORSED COPY? THE PURPOSE OF THE COPIES OF THE NOTES WERE SO THEY COULD KEEP SELLING INTERESTS IN THAT ALREADY CASHED NOTE ….THEY COULD NOT HAVE THE ORIGINAL NOTES IF WE HAVE THE COLLATERAL DEED…..THEY CASHED THE CHECK….THE NOTE….WHEN WE GOT THAT DEED…….THAT IS WHY THERE ARE ALLONGES…..TO COVER UP FOR THE FACT THEY CASHED THE NOTE BUT KEPT SELLING INTERESTS IN IT MULTIPLE TIMES..FRAUD, FRAUD AND MORE FRAUD….
Two separate copies of the note were filed in the court…the first copy of the note did NOT have the stamp “PAY TO THE ORDER ……WITHOUT RECOURSE…..SIGNED BY WAMU…IT JUST HAD A BIG ‘ X ‘ BELOW THE SIGNATURE…TOLD BY JUDGE TO REFILE WITH PROPER DOCUMENTS……….THE SECOND SET OF DOCUMENTS RE-FILED IN COURT HAS THE STAMP ON THE BACK OF NOTE BELOW THE SIGNATURE……….PAY TO THE ORDER …….WITHOUT RECOURSE….WAMU AND SIGNED…..AND NO BIG ‘ X ‘ ON THAT COPY…..IN THE BLANK SPACE THERE IS A FAINT…VERY FAINT STAMP UNABLE TO READ……..
NO WHERE DID THE COMMENT STATE ‘ ORIGINAL ‘….IT STATED ‘ COPY ‘..OF THE NOTE. .. OF COURSE THE BANK WOULD NOT HAVE THE ORIGINAL…IF DEPOSITED…..BUT THEY HAD COPIES FROM THE CLOSING BEFORE DEPOSIT AND ANOTHER COPY WHEN IT WAS DEPOSITED WITH THE STAMP…THIS PROVES THE MORTGAGE WAS PAID….THIS COPY OF THE PAID NOTE IS THE ONE THE BANK DOES NOT WANT YOU TO HAVE….SO THEY GIVE YOU IN THE FORECLOSURE A COPY THAT WAS FROM THE CLOSING….. THEY CAN MAKE AS MANY COPIES AS THEY NEED FOR THEIR FRAUD…NOTHING STOPING THEM…..JUST AS LONG AS THEY DON’T MAKE COPIES OF THE STAMPED NOTE. ..THAT IS WHY ONE SHOULD KEEP DOING ‘ REQUEST TO PRODUCE ‘…..SOMEONE JUST MAY SEND THE RIGHT COPY THAT IS NEEDED IN COURT………( ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE FRAUD ) WAMU WAS NO SAINT…………..
lvent
November 17, 2011 at 2:23 PM
That is just awful Marilyn…Look at what the Judge is trying to do to me…the pretender lender wants to enter the “original” note into evidence with no documentation…no affadavit…and the Judge said ok……and gave me 21 days to answer to that….
I vent…When one thinks about it…with the promissory note….you sign the note…note same as cash….the bank does not tell you what they plan to do with the Note…they deposit the Note with the Federal Reserve…the FR puts the ‘ money’ into the ‘ account ‘ of the bank….so in essence the bank got paid for the cashed Note….this allows the bank to use that Note ( which is kept at the Federal Reserve) to profit 10 to 33 times again on that note…the bank sets up a ‘ checking account ‘ in your name….it uses your name and note to profit more money….in the mean time you send the payments to them…in essense you are the creditor…your note paid the bank in full…so by making the payments you are paying twice for that mortgage….that is why they say the note with the endorsed stamp is proof the mortage was paid…you owe the bank nothing…they owe you for all the payments sent to them…this was done in fraud. The info said the same with credit cards…on the application for credit cards…the bank stamps on the back of the application WITH the pay to order stamp…the application is a note and is deposited to the Federal Reserve….the ‘ money ‘ is put into the acount…and gives the bank more money many times over….just like the mortgages…the bank has the right to use that money for any way they want to……all done with no money lent. I PUT THIS TO YOU IN HOPES THAT OTHERS WILL READ IT……REMEMBER..KEEP REQUESTING DISCOVERY OF DOCUMENTS TO GET THE ‘ PROPER COPY OF THE NOTE…..SOMEONE AT THE BANK JUST MAY SCREW UP AND SEND THE ENDORSED COPY…..THE COPY WITH STAMP OF ‘WITHOUT RECOURSE ‘….
Prosecute the fraud
November 16, 2011 at 9:44 AM
Marilyn, your description of what the banks do with home loans is exactly spot on, excellent work.
Everyone needs to read and understand what your talking about and how it impacts their home loan.
Without disclosing the entire transaction to the homeowner it is FRAUD.
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 1:02 PM
Marilyn, That is nothing new to me, I explained about what they do with the note a long time ago..I DI D MY HOMEWORK…The U.S. Treasury is whocashed the note/check backed by tax payer dollars…Our signature is all that they need to do that….That generates a deed for us and a treasury and a bond for the lender….they in reality sell interests in both even the bond that they hold…Bloomberg news reported that the IMF is the biggest shareholder/bondholder in Fannie Mae..SO THAT THE IMF PRETENDS TO OWN OUR HOMES…THEY DO NOT…AND EITHER DOES FANNIE AND FREDDIE…THEY NEVER LENT US ANY MONEY EITHER…THEY WERE INVESTORS .THE U.S. GOVERNMENT ALLOWED THIS TREASON TO OCCUR…The fact that the GSE’s were PRIVATELY OWNED and a GSE is also FRAUD…THEY WERE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITHIN THEMSELVES…..The GSE’s also went back and purchased interests in our homes for pennies on the dollar…They oversold and overspeculated exponentially on every aspect of the loans….EXPONENTIAL COLLATERAL FRAUD……Once the note is cashed, they cannot legally cash it again.THEY SOLD INTERESTS IN THAT NOTE….EXPONENTIALLY….The same laws apply to the note as with any check…There are alot of laws still being broken to this day with these fraudclosures and them claiming they have the ORIGINAL NOTE…WITHOUT RECOURSE MEANS THEY ALREADY GOT PAID….AND THEY CAN’T SELL THE NOTE ANYMORE…BUT THE FRAUD CONTINUES ON A MASSIVE SCALE….THEY DID IT …HUNDREDS OF TIMES PER PROPERTY…Fannie Mae already admitted to multiple pledging the notes…THE FRAUD IS MASSIVE……THAT IS WHAT THEY DID…AND WHAT THEY DID WAS CRIMINAL…YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SELL…ALL THEY SOLD WAS SPECULATION….
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 1:15 PM
prosecutethefraud…they have done alot of criminal shit and are still doing alot of criminal shit, but that has not stopped them yet…Everyone knows that we were not told what they were doing with those signatures……that is how they got away with it….We all want them thrown in prison and the loans rescinded…There are millions of people who do not know this stuff and never will figure it out..and THAT IS A CRIME…….I realize there has to be an equitable transfer of the promisorry note and they don’t have proof of that….What makes me furious is the fact that THOUSANDS of AMERICANS have been and are being led to the slaughter EVERYTDAY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA…. BECA– USE THEY DON’T KNOW THEIR RIGHTS AND THE LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT WE THE PEOPLE…I HAVE WITNESSED IT IN FRAUDCLOSURE COURT FIRST HAND…and that is UNCONSTITUIONAL AND UNAMERICAN….DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY HAVE TRUSTED THE ATTORNEYS AND HAVE HAD THEIR HOMES STOLEN? MY OWN SISTER IS ONE OF THEM..PROSECUTE THE FRAUD IS EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN…THEY ARE STEALING OUR COUNTRY BECA– USE OF WHAT MILLIONS DON’T KNOW AND IT IS SNEAKY AND ROTTEN…AND THAT IS WHY I AM PISSED OFF…
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 1:23 PM
I meant to say everyone HERE knows they DID NOT tell us what they were doing with our signatures…THAT IS HOW THEY PULLED OFF THIS MASSIVE COLLATERAL FRAUD CRIME SPREE..If we knew most of us would have NEVER SIGNED THAT CONTRACT….They told us they were selling THE LOAN……THEY DID NOT TELL US WHAT THEY WERE REALLY DOING WAS SELLING AN INTEREST IN THE NOTE…MULTIPLE TIMES……
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 1:25 PM
They were actually selling an interest in EVERY ASPECT OF THOSE LOANS…..AND THEY HAD NO SKIN IN THE GAME…THEY LENT US NO MONEY….
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 1:31 PM
It is way past time people stopped trying to powder puff this..this is not about me or you saving our home…this is about THESE NWO CROOKS, stealing our country…..to pay for the EXPONENTIAL DERIVATIVES FRAUD OF THEIR PERPS!!!!..THEY ARE GETTING AWAY WITH STEALING OUR COUNTRY….BECA– USE OUR GOVERMENT IS COMPLETELY CORRUPT …….THEY ARE BANKING ON WHAT THE MASSES DO NOT KNOW….AND THEY ARE USING THAT AND THE FACT THEIR ARE NO ATTORNEYS TO STEAL OUR COUNTRY……..90% DON’T FIGHT THEIR FORECLOSURE…….MILLIONS OF HOMES ARE NOT LEGALLY FORECLOSEABLE YET, THEY ARE GETTING AWAY WITH IT ON A MASSIVE SCALE……!!!!!!
Prosecute the fraud
November 16, 2011 at 3:43 PM
This is the one aspect of Fraudclosure that all these sites need to focus on, the securitization of the mortgage and what the banks do with the note to lien it up with the FED Reserve money. The banks have no beneficial interest in any home loan, its not their money. This always gets lost in the shuffle and never takes front page.
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 4:37 PM
PROSECUTE THE FRAUD: THEY — USED THE BACKS OF THE U.S. TAXPAYER TO SECURITIZE MORTGAGE LOANS…..BUT WHAT THEY REALLY DID WAS SELL INTERESTS IN A MONEY FLOW WITH NO COLLATERAL BACKING THAT UP….THEY DID NOT ACTUALLY SELL THE LOANS….THEY SOLD AN INTEREST IN HOW THAT LOAN WOULD PERFORM AMONG OTHER EXOTIC DERIVATIVES…..WHAT THEY DID WAS SELL AN INTEREST IN MANY SPECULATIONS……NOT AN INTEREST IN ONE MORTGAGE…THAT IS HOW THEY CREATED THEIR EXPONENTIAL MORTGAGE FRAUD DEBT……THEY OWE THEIR INVESTORS HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS BECA– USE OF WHAT THEY DID……..THIS IS NTO THE DEBT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE….I TOOK OUT ONE MORTGAGE, NOT HUNDREDS….THAT IS WHY WALL STREET, THE GSE’S AND THE BANKS DEBT IS UNSUSTAINABLE…..! IT CAN NEVER BE REPAID…AND AS A RESULT….. THEY MUST RESCIND THE FRAUDULENTLY INDUCED MORTGAGES…..THESE INSITUTIONS ARE INSOLVENT ON PAPER AND ARE ROBBING AND STEALING AMERICA TO PAY FOR ALL OF THEIR FRAUD……AND THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS ALLOWING IT…..!
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 4:43 PM
TRUTH IS, IT IS THE U.S. TAXPAYER WHO ARE WELL WITHIN OUR LEGAL RIGHTS TO FORECLOSE ON THESE WALL STREET CRIMINALS, BANKS AND GSE’s…….FOR RINGING UP THE U.S. TAXPAYERS CREDIT CARD EXPONENTIONALLY……THEY DID THAT WITH NO COLLATERAL BACKING THAT DEBT UP…..THEY ALL BELONG IN PRISON…..AND SO DO THE TRAITOR POLITICIANS WHO ARE ALLOWING THIS ROBBERY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO CONTINUE…..
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 5:25 PM
THEY OWE THE U.S. TAXPAYER TRILLIONS…AS WELL AS THE 401 K’S AND OTHER RETIREMENT MONEY AND OTHER INVESTMENTS THEY HAVE STOLEN FROM WE THE PEOPLE TO TRY AND COVER UP FOR ALL OF THEIR FRAUD…..THEY OWE US FOR THE TAXPAYER FUNDED BAILOUTS AND WE WANT OUR STOLEN HOMES AND BUSINESSES RETURNED TO WE THE PEOPLE AS WELL…THIS WAS THE BIGGEST ROBBERY OF OUR WEALTH IN HISTORY……
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PEOPLE BUYING HOMES THEY COULD NOT AFFORD….THIS HAS TO DO WITH WHAT THE GES’S, THE BANKS AND WALL STREET DID WITH THOSE NOTES AFTER THE FRAUDULENT INDUCEMENT AND THE THEFT OF U.S. TAXPAYER MONEY OCCURED…THEY COMMITTED MASSIVE COLLATERAL FRAUD….BACKED BY ZERO….THEY CREATED HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS IN UNSUSTAINABLE DEBTS…..AND THEY ARE ROBBING AMERICA FOR THEIR CRIMES…MONEY THAT CAN NEVER BE REPAID IN OUR LIFETIMES OR OUR CHILDRENS LIFETIMES….THEY ARE LYING TO STEAL EVERYTHING FROM THE PEOPLE AND THEY ARE TRYING TO CREATE ETERNAL DEBT SLAVERY IN THE NAME OF DEBT…….THEIR DEBT, NOT OURS!!!!! IT IS ALL A SHAM AND A FRAUD…. THEY WANT GLOBAL COMMUNISM….NO OWNERSHIP OF ANYTHING OF VALUE FOR THE PEOPLE…AT ALL..
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 5:32 PM
PROSECUTE THE FRAUD…..BTW…THEY NEVER GAVE US A HOME LOAN….NOT THE GSE’S, NOT THE BANKS AND CERTAINLY NOT WALL STREET…..ALL THEY WANTED WAS OUR SIGNATURE TO GAMBLE OFF OF……WE THE PEOPLE, THE 99% ARE WHO ARE OWED ALOT OF MONEY FROM THESE CRIMINALS…..WHO COMMITTED MASSIVE COLLATERAL FRAUD IN OUR NAMES…..WHAT THEY DID WAS NOT CAPITALISM….IT WAS GAMBLING…AND IT WAS CRIMINAL..THEY SOLD NOTHING TO THEIR INVESTORS BUT AN EMPTY BILL OF GOODS…AND THERE WAS NOTHING BACKING UP THAT SALE…CERTAINLY NOT OUR HOMES AND OUR WEALTH….WHAT THEY DID WAS COMMIT A MASSIVE ROBBERY UNDER THE GUISE OF DEBT…PEOPLE BOUGHT HOMES THEY COULD NOT AFFORD….THAT IS THE BIG LIE THEY AND THE MEDIA ARE USING…….TO TRY AND COVER UP FOR OUR ROBBERY…..THE ONLY ENTITIES WHO ARE DROWNING IN DEBT ARE WALL STREET, THE GSE’S AND THE BANKS….AND IT IS THEIR DEBT, NOT OURS……
Prosecute the fraud…..Thanks for the compliment….I realize to give information is great….but if that information is not explained throughly ….it can get rather confusing…especially to someone who has not been on this site for long…..when something confuses me I have to search the matter out…so I try to help by bringing up what I have learned…An example….I vent say’s the mortgages were paid by the U S Treasury..our tax dollars….I thought the same thing…till I read of how the bank used the note up to 33 times to profit on that same note…in my figureing of facts…that was alot of money on one note and I than questioned this on millions of notes… I was confusing myself……So I went into searching the Federal Reserve…and found the Note was deposited by the bank to the Fed. Res. the feeder of money to the banks…..so at this point I have a question……Did the U S Treasury ever have an involvement with the mortgage notes? Or was it straight from bank to Fed. Reserve ….the International Bankers…..who may have control of our tax dollars…..?
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 9:14 PM
Let me rephrase that then….THE U.S. TREASURY ISSUES CREDIT BACKED BY THE U.S. TAXPAYER’S SIGNATURE WHICH IS IN THE FORM OF BONDS AND
TREASURIES….
…..THE FEDERAL RESERVE CASHES THE CHECK BUT NOT UNTIL THE U.S. TREASURY ISSUES CREDIT BACKED BY THE U.S. TAXPAYER IN THE FORM OF OUR SIGNATURE….
THE PRETENDER LENDER CANNOT GET ISSUED CREDIT WITHOUT COLLATERAL TO BACK UP THAT NOTE…WHICH IS OUR SIGNATURE….THE COLLATERAL GETS ISSUED TO THE HOMEOWNER IN THE FORM OF THE DEED…
…THE FUNDS GET DISPERSED FROM THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK.. THOSE FUNDS ARE ONLY DISPERSED ON THE ISSUANCE OF CREDIT BY THE US. TREASURY DEPT. AND OUR SIGNATURE IS WHAT CREATES THE ISSUE OF CREDIT BY THE U.S. TREASURY…
THE FEDERAL RESERVE DOES NOT ISSUE CREDIT….
….OUR SIGNATURE GENERATES THE DISPERSMENT OF FUNDS BY THE ISSUANCE OF CREDIT…BY THE U.S. TREASURY….
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 9:17 PM
GEITHNER STATED THAT THE U.S. TREASURY WILL NOT ISSUE CREDIT WITHOUT COLLATERAL TO BACK THAT UP……THAT WAS OUR SIGNATURES…..WHAT WENT ON AFTER THAT WITH THE BONDS, THE TREASURIES AND THE NOTES WAS EXPONENTIAL COLLATERAL FRAUD….
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 9:29 PM
I DID NOT SAY THE MORTAGAGES WERE PAID BY THE U.S. TREASURY…I SAID THE U.S. TREASURY ISSUES THE CREDIT BACKED BY THE U.S. TAXPAYER…..
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 9:32 PM
THE U.S. TREASURY DID CASH THE NOTE…IN THE FORM OF THE ISSUANCE OF CREDIT…..
lvent
November 17, 2011 at 12:49 AM
The U.S. TREASURY was a big player in this entire mortage “securitization” fiasco…The U.S. TAXPAYER BACKED ALL OF THE LOANS….The U.S. TREASURY WOULD BE THE ENTITY WHO SHOULD HAVE DESTROYED THE NOTES…THE ORIGINATOR DID NOT TAKE THE NOTE TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE TO CASH……IT IS THE U.S. TREASURY WHO ORIGINATED THE LOAN BY ISSUING CREDIT BACKED BY THE U.S. TAXPAYER………..AND CASHED THE NOTE….THE ACTUAL MONEY CAME FROM THE FED BUT THE ACTUAL TRANSACTION COULD NOT HAVE OCCURED WITHOUT THE U.S. TREASURY ISSUING THE CREDIT…..BASED ON OUR SIGNATURES………….THAT SIGNATURE ON THAT NOTE IS WHAT GENERATED THE COLLATERAL DEED THAT WAS SENT TO ALL OF US, AS WELL AS THE BONDS AND THE TREASURIES…..JOSH ROSNER WHO WROTE THE BOOK “RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT” SAID ON BLOOMBERG NEWS THAT FANNIE MAE ALSO BOUGHT BACK LOANS FOR 2-3cents ON THE DOLLAR….FANNIE GOT RICH PAYING THEMSELVES ON RETURNS ON EQUITY…AND THERE IS A HUGE ACCOUNTING SCANDAL AT FANNIE MAE.. THE LOANS WERE BACKED BY THE U..S TAXPAYER….AND FANNIE MAE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE INVESTING IN WAS ALOT OF FRAUD BUT, THEY HAD NO REAL SKIN IN THE GAME…………Everything was done in reverse….the homes were collateralized and paid for first backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. TAXPAYER…..BANKS DON’T PRINT MONEY OR LEND MONEY….AND EITHER DOES THE U.S. TREASURY..THE FED DOES…BUT THE FED CANNOT PRINT MONEY AND THE BANKS CANNOT “LEND” CREDIT WITHOUT THE ISSUANCE OF CREDIT BACKED BY THE U.S. TAXPAYER AND THAT CREDIT CAN ONLY BE ISSUED BY THE U.S. TREASURY….THE ONLY THING THAT BACKS OUR CURRENCY…..THE U.S. TAXPAYER…AND THAT IS ALL THANKS TO THE TRAITOR POLITICIANS….IF WE WERE NEVER TAKEN OFF OF THE GOLD STANDARD THERE COULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ALL OF THIS “LENDING”..
lvent
November 17, 2011 at 1:14 AM
PROSECUTE THE FRAUD……WHEN WE RECEIVED THE COLLATERAL DEED…THE LOAN WAS RELEASED PAID…AND THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW….OUR HOMES ARE PAID FOR FREE AND CLEAR…
i VENT… One thing I question about our constitution….is….in the link Lies is all they tell…posted….it say’s our constitution was dissolved under bankruptcy …now the bankruptacy in the mid 90’s was like the 3rd or 4th bankruptacy…probably since 1933…..wonder when …in what year was it dissolved? Going back many years the government has not been for the people….now one can see where the constitution was ignored by Washington….the fake wars were not against other countries…it was orders from the NWO….the Hitler plan lived on after WW2…so did we have a constitution all those years or did we hold that belief that it was there??
Maybe the link will tell more on it…I read quite far into it..but had to stop…will continue tomorrow when alone so no noise…….My thinking tells me we still have the constitution in our hands…it is part of us….we have never let go of it….but on the other hand….our so called fake government has flushed it down the sewer…………
lvent
November 15, 2011 at 11:37 PM
Marilyn, screw them and all of their lies….we all know the NWO crooks are blaming all of us for their crimes just to rob us and bankrupt all of us so that they can create a one world global tyranny…first they sneak in socialism, then communism under the guise of protection and then the end game is TOTALITARIANISM…Let them try to tell the American people we have no U.S. Constitution, I DARE THEM…They have been trying to weaken our U.S. CONSTITUTION and our BILL OF RIGHTS for decades because they FEAR IT and the rights that those documents afford the American People……..The entire collateral fraud debt burden is on the NEW WORLD ORDER because of what they told their perps to do and that was done just to steal our our jobs, our wealth and our assets…..and WE THE PEOPLE are NOT paying for it..Nor will we conform and comply to their HITLER PLAN FOR GLOBAL COMMUNISM…..They can shove THEIR MASSIVE DEBT IMPOSITION THAT THEY CREATED OUT OF THIN AIR BACKED BY ZERO….THE NEW EXC– USE IS THAT IS HOW CAPITALISM WORKS IS BULLSHIT…..YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SELL, INSTEAD THEY WERE SELLING AN INTEREST IN A SPECULATION…..THEY WERE SELLING AN INTEREST IN MASSIVE LIES….$600TRILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF LIES…….I read what really ended the last great depression was debt forgiveness and it was no doubt debt forgiveness to their very own criminal friends who caused it….They can all eat their 1.2 Quadrillion in derivatives fraud and die…
lvent
November 15, 2011 at 11:42 PM
How can you dissolve the U.S. CONSTITUTION IN A BANKRUPTCY…? That is the most obscene thing I have ever heard…The people will burn the country to the ground if they try and feed us that story…! I have heard a lot of stories like we didn’t really win the war against the British and all kinds of crap….They will tell us anything to save their evil plans for Global tyranny…
I vent….I am going to google that on the Constitution….see what I find. If one looks at all the presidents who went for the NWO to destroy America….that was treason in the Constitution…wasn’t it? And they still did it…..so where was the constitution for all these years? Or was it no one caught the government on treason? Find that hard to believe…the word has been out on 9/11 for some time now…inside job…and old man Bush talked of the NWO…and nazi blood to boot….anyways I will seek some answers and let you know if it was shredded.
lvent
November 16, 2011 at 1:35 AM
Marilyn, Alot has come out about 9/11 but, just when you think you know the truth, you find out there is more, alot more…..My mother believes the 9/11 lie…what I found out tonite, just might change her mind…..
I vent…Before I get to our Chttp://www.sovereignindependent.com/?p=27976onstitution….England claims to have lost their Constitution….. so Far…I did read an article on Judge Napolitano’s book…The Constitution in Exile…..a prefessor wrote the article….this professor wrote books on Abe Lincoln…Abe was not the honest Abe…he was a known liar….and a ‘ destroyer to the Constitution…had to laugh when I read that…Obama often spoke of the honest Abe…and how he looked up to Abe Lincoln… Abe ‘ Unmasked ‘…..now I know why he looked up to old Abe…
But so far there is alot of searches on the men who destroyed the Constitution…got to get to that part ……but England is having trouble on their Constitution with claims it was destroyed…so it does not look good for us either…..
I am not drinking that Kool-aid…All of Europe had to give up their Constitutions in order to enter the Euro….England might be screwed but that is their problem…that has nothing to do with our Constitution..at all..
Edward T Hall was the CONceiver of “Proxemics,” and ‘The Silent Language,” a protege of one termed:Rothschild whom penned: “Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars,” [see: @www.lawfulpath.com] They were Mentors to Zebinew Brezinski, whowas Mentor to: O’bama, Geithner, and Brezinski Jr., along with Soros and Kissinger, and OTHER; C.I.A, handlers!
Interesting Note: “Edward T. Hall’s” Great grandson, [Edwart T. Hall,II or III,] made “his” YouTUBE “DEBUT,” in: “Infiltration of Co-Intel-Pro & MK-ULTRA in OWS movement investigation.”
Also Those curious to TECHNOCRACY; may visit: Dr. Patrick M.Woods’ @www.augustforecast.com and WATCH the Video closely: Observe the CLOUDS off to the Left of graphics; re-presenting The CLOUD Datum FUSION assimilation CENTERS for the NEW World Order’s Plan, to MONITOR ALL; Info Datum, ad infinitum, from the World Wide Web of Deceit andinfo Gathering, to INSURE proper: RESPONSES, to Un-acceptable Thoughts, and Terms! can ou SPELL: BIG BrotherHOOD on STEROIDS?
Ayan Rand, is Reported to have Said: “You can ignore Circumstances; But You can NOT: avoid the Cicumstances, of Ignoring Circumstances?
Many men know many THINGS! No man knows EveryTHING! SomeONE Knows SomeTHING? Whom Knows?
“without prejudice’ U.C.C.1-308 specifically by: “Doctrine of: Private Attorneys General
this is a crime this judge has been bought and sold. we have the 1st amendment freedom of speach i guess he forgot about that . money talks louder. just think he cant afford his either how do you think he, the judge , is staying afloat. by getting money from the big banks. that is how this whole thing is going pulling the wool over everyones eyes. those of us who are educated or i should say awake to the myth of freedom know noe of the money is real.. all debt in this country is manufactured. actually with out debt there would be no money. none of the banks can lend their own money that was rule set in 1913. banks can not lend out their own credit. when we sign a car loan agreement,, acredit card application, or a mortgage note. that signiture is taken to the federal reserve the “bank” officer endorses this promisoory note deposited in their account “wala”
money is created. fake money, by your signiture so it is actually your money the bank is loaning you
it is the money from the federal reserve. actually not even money. it is an electronic money. when we pay this Loan back the bank keeps the intrest but the money is not actually theirs or anyones. it is fake , made up, made of thin air. actually i do not like knowing htis because it pisses me off. that they tanked the economy, took all the jobs and we used our “credit” cards to stay afloat but now because there are no jobs we can not pay these bills. please everyone stop paying these fake banks. the only real money that exists is money in oyur account. the bank actually owns no money. this banking systen=m is a scam and we are being scamed. do not allow another house to be confiscated or another BK. tell creditors you know about this scam. they need to prove to you how they funded the laon, car, credit car, home. i bet they can not produce ownership.
please watch this video and your eyes will be way open now. and you can thank youself for finding this web site. next step is what do we do with this info and save our homes, and our families
I ALSO THINK THE LAST BANKRUPTACY WAS IN MID 90’S….CLINTON’S TIME…..NO WONDER HE WAS LET OFF THE IMPEACHMENT SO EASILY……..HE BENT DOWN FORWARD FOR THE NWO…..
lIES IS ALL THEY TELL…….http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_matrix_the_federal_reserve_the_banks_and_the_strawman.htm EXCELLENT !!!! EVERYONE SHOULD READ THIS…EVERYONE…EVEN THOSE WHO ARE NOT YET IN FORECLOSURE…WHO OWN THEIR HOMES AND THOSE ALL IN FORECLOSURE….THIS TELLS IT ALL…THE MYSTERY OF WHO AND WHY THIS HAS ALL HAPPENED….THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT IS IN BANKRUPTCY…..CREDITORS BEING THE INTERNATIONAL BANKERS VIA THE UNITED NATIONS, THE WORLD BANK, THE IMF….THESE RECEIVERS OF THE BANKRUPTCY FORMED A NEW GOVERNMENT FOR THE U.S. THIS NEW GOVERNMENT KNOWN AS A DEMOCRACY BEING AN ESTABLISHED SOCIALISTS / COMMUNIST ORDER UNDER A NEW GOVERNOR FOR AMERICA. THIS ACT TRANFERRED THE OFFICE OF THE SEC. OF TREASURY TO THE GOVERNOR OF THE IMF….UNDER PUBLIC LAW THE U.S. SEC. OF TREASURY RECEIVES NO COMPENSATION FOR REPRESENTING THE U.S…..THEY OWN EVERYTHING…THE IRS…SOCIAL SECURITY…EVERYTHING….THAT IS WHY THERE HAVE BEEN NO ARREST OR INDICTMENTS TO THESE CRIMES….OUR GOVERNMENT IS NOT OUR GOVERNMENT…THEY ARE BOUGHT AND OWNED BY THE NWO….THE NWO IS NOT GOING TO ARREST ANYONE WHO HAS FOLLOWED THE ORDERS TO TAKE ALL THE HOMES FROM THE PEOPLE…
THE CREDITOR ON THE MORTGAGES IS THE INTERNATIONAL BANKERS…ALL A COMPLETE FRAUD….THAT IS WHY THERE HAVE BEEN NO CREDITOR IN COURT FOR THE FORECLOSURES…CA– USE THE CREDITOR WOULD HAVE TO YELL ‘ BANKRUPTCY PRECEEDINGS.’ THAT IS THE REASON FOR THE FORECLOSURES….TO TAKE IT ALL THROUGH THE BANKRUPTCY…..OUR GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED THE PEOPLE OF THE U S OF AMERICA….THEY ARE THE ENEMY OF TREASON….GOING BACK 30 YEARS OR SO……BUT PLEASE READ EVERYTHING THIS LINK TELLS…IT ANSWERS EVERYTHING…SAVE IT IN FAVORITES TO CONTINUE TO READ….PASS IT ON TO OTHERS…..WE HAVE BEEN SCAMMED BY WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS OUR OWN GOVERNMENT………THE ENEMY SITS IN WASHINGTON DC…….THIS COUNTRY BETTER WAKE UP FAST….AND BE READY…..SHUT THE FEDERAL RESERVE DOWN NOW….CUT THE CORD….THEY FEED THE CRIMINAL BANKS / WALLSTREET…….DROP THE MEMBERSHIP IN THE UNITED NATIONS…. THIS IS DISGUSTING….READ THE LINK AND YOU WILL SEE THE RABBIT HOLE GOES ALOT DEEPER…AND TO THINK THESE BASTARDS IN WASHINGTON ARE PLANNING FOR AN ELECTION…LOL…..MAYBE THEY BETTER PLAN ON HOW TO EXPLAIN TO THE PEOPLE ALL THE LIES THAT THEIR FILTHY MOUTHS HAVE SPEWED…..LINE THEM UP AND LETS GET IT OVER WITH….
i HAVE TO CHECK AGAIN..BUT I THINK
THE LAST PART..I HAVE TO CHECK…. I THOUGHT WAS DELETED..BUT IT SHOWED….INGNOR IT.
Lie, deceive in order to steal…that is all they do..they are no more than a cabal of lying crooks…Dylan had a good show today..he interviewed a BBC reporter who wrote a book about the crooks at Goldman Sachs and all of the fraud they sell …The BBC reporter made a mention of section 4 of the Patriot Act prevents reporters from doing any real investigations…….I have to look into that one..The BBC reporter also said that Goldman Saks does business like a crime syndicate…LOL.. .We should all be screaming that the Patriot Act be repealed…it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL….Like Jesse Ventura said something like when the Government tells you they want to protect you, get ready because you are about to lose your rights…
I found Title IV of the Patriot Act very interesting…it is FINCEN….which I have learned is U.N. black ops….This proves once and for all traitor politicians from within are trying to destroying America….and our U.S. CONSTITUTION and our U.S. BILL OF RIGHTS….The BBC reporter on Dylan’s show today said that Goldman Sachs is engaged in RACKETEERING ACTIVITY…..AND THEIR PROTECTION FROM AMERICAN MEDIA SCRUTINY LIES HERE: IN TITLE IV OF THE SO CALLED PATRIOT ACT….
http://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/patriot/index.html
Title IV of the Un Patriot act proves to me that 9/11 was the cover up by the NWO for the massive derivatives fraud by their perps on Wall Street and the robbery of all of us…..the Patriot act also allows the banks tohide their ill gotten gains in overseas bank accounts…all they need to do is fill out a form….The Bank Secrecy Act which was implemented in the early 70’s, is also in Title IV, allows the banks to spy on us…any deposit over $10,000.00 must be reported to the Federal Government….
I VENT…….JUST READ SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS….SEE….THE TRAITOR POLITICIANS ARE THE ENEMY WITHIN…..NOW YOU SEE WHAT I READ ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION BEING DISSOLVED UNDER THE BANKRUPTCY? …..MAKES ONE OPEN THEIR EYES WIDE…..THAT IS WHY I QUESTIONED IT……
SOMEONE MIGHT SCREW UP AND SEND THE ENDORSED COPY? WHY WOULD THEY HAVE AN EDORSED COPY? THE PURPOSE OF THE COPIES OF THE NOTES WERE SO THEY COULD KEEP SELLING INTERESTS IN THAT ALREADY CASHED NOTE ….THEY COULD NOT HAVE THE ORIGINAL NOTES IF WE HAVE THE COLLATERAL DEED…..THEY CASHED THE CHECK….THE NOTE….WHEN WE GOT THAT DEED…….THAT IS WHY THERE ARE ALLONGES…..TO COVER UP FOR THE FACT THEY CASHED THE NOTE BUT KEPT SELLING INTERESTS IN IT MULTIPLE TIMES..FRAUD, FRAUD AND MORE FRAUD….
Two separate copies of the note were filed in the court…the first copy of the note did NOT have the stamp “PAY TO THE ORDER ……WITHOUT RECOURSE…..SIGNED BY WAMU…IT JUST HAD A BIG ‘ X ‘ BELOW THE SIGNATURE…TOLD BY JUDGE TO REFILE WITH PROPER DOCUMENTS……….THE SECOND SET OF DOCUMENTS RE-FILED IN COURT HAS THE STAMP ON THE BACK OF NOTE BELOW THE SIGNATURE……….PAY TO THE ORDER …….WITHOUT RECOURSE….WAMU AND SIGNED…..AND NO BIG ‘ X ‘ ON THAT COPY…..IN THE BLANK SPACE THERE IS A FAINT…VERY FAINT STAMP UNABLE TO READ……..
NO WHERE DID THE COMMENT STATE ‘ ORIGINAL ‘….IT STATED ‘ COPY ‘..OF THE NOTE. .. OF COURSE THE BANK WOULD NOT HAVE THE ORIGINAL…IF DEPOSITED…..BUT THEY HAD COPIES FROM THE CLOSING BEFORE DEPOSIT AND ANOTHER COPY WHEN IT WAS DEPOSITED WITH THE STAMP…THIS PROVES THE MORTGAGE WAS PAID….THIS COPY OF THE PAID NOTE IS THE ONE THE BANK DOES NOT WANT YOU TO HAVE….SO THEY GIVE YOU IN THE FORECLOSURE A COPY THAT WAS FROM THE CLOSING….. THEY CAN MAKE AS MANY COPIES AS THEY NEED FOR THEIR FRAUD…NOTHING STOPING THEM…..JUST AS LONG AS THEY DON’T MAKE COPIES OF THE STAMPED NOTE. ..THAT IS WHY ONE SHOULD KEEP DOING ‘ REQUEST TO PRODUCE ‘…..SOMEONE JUST MAY SEND THE RIGHT COPY THAT IS NEEDED IN COURT………( ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE FRAUD ) WAMU WAS NO SAINT…………..
That is just awful Marilyn…Look at what the Judge is trying to do to me…the pretender lender wants to enter the “original” note into evidence with no documentation…no affadavit…and the Judge said ok……and gave me 21 days to answer to that….
I vent…When one thinks about it…with the promissory note….you sign the note…note same as cash….the bank does not tell you what they plan to do with the Note…they deposit the Note with the Federal Reserve…the FR puts the ‘ money’ into the ‘ account ‘ of the bank….so in essence the bank got paid for the cashed Note….this allows the bank to use that Note ( which is kept at the Federal Reserve) to profit 10 to 33 times again on that note…the bank sets up a ‘ checking account ‘ in your name….it uses your name and note to profit more money….in the mean time you send the payments to them…in essense you are the creditor…your note paid the bank in full…so by making the payments you are paying twice for that mortgage….that is why they say the note with the endorsed stamp is proof the mortage was paid…you owe the bank nothing…they owe you for all the payments sent to them…this was done in fraud. The info said the same with credit cards…on the application for credit cards…the bank stamps on the back of the application WITH the pay to order stamp…the application is a note and is deposited to the Federal Reserve….the ‘ money ‘ is put into the acount…and gives the bank more money many times over….just like the mortgages…the bank has the right to use that money for any way they want to……all done with no money lent. I PUT THIS TO YOU IN HOPES THAT OTHERS WILL READ IT……REMEMBER..KEEP REQUESTING DISCOVERY OF DOCUMENTS TO GET THE ‘ PROPER COPY OF THE NOTE…..SOMEONE AT THE BANK JUST MAY SCREW UP AND SEND THE ENDORSED COPY…..THE COPY WITH STAMP OF ‘WITHOUT RECOURSE ‘….
Marilyn, your description of what the banks do with home loans is exactly spot on, excellent work.
Everyone needs to read and understand what your talking about and how it impacts their home loan.
Without disclosing the entire transaction to the homeowner it is FRAUD.
Marilyn, That is nothing new to me, I explained about what they do with the note a long time ago..I DI D MY HOMEWORK…The U.S. Treasury is whocashed the note/check backed by tax payer dollars…Our signature is all that they need to do that….That generates a deed for us and a treasury and a bond for the lender….they in reality sell interests in both even the bond that they hold…Bloomberg news reported that the IMF is the biggest shareholder/bondholder in Fannie Mae..SO THAT THE IMF PRETENDS TO OWN OUR HOMES…THEY DO NOT…AND EITHER DOES FANNIE AND FREDDIE…THEY NEVER LENT US ANY MONEY EITHER…THEY WERE INVESTORS .THE U.S. GOVERNMENT ALLOWED THIS TREASON TO OCCUR…The fact that the GSE’s were PRIVATELY OWNED and a GSE is also FRAUD…THEY WERE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST WITHIN THEMSELVES…..The GSE’s also went back and purchased interests in our homes for pennies on the dollar…They oversold and overspeculated exponentially on every aspect of the loans….EXPONENTIAL COLLATERAL FRAUD……Once the note is cashed, they cannot legally cash it again.THEY SOLD INTERESTS IN THAT NOTE….EXPONENTIALLY….The same laws apply to the note as with any check…There are alot of laws still being broken to this day with these fraudclosures and them claiming they have the ORIGINAL NOTE…WITHOUT RECOURSE MEANS THEY ALREADY GOT PAID….AND THEY CAN’T SELL THE NOTE ANYMORE…BUT THE FRAUD CONTINUES ON A MASSIVE SCALE….THEY DID IT …HUNDREDS OF TIMES PER PROPERTY…Fannie Mae already admitted to multiple pledging the notes…THE FRAUD IS MASSIVE……THAT IS WHAT THEY DID…AND WHAT THEY DID WAS CRIMINAL…YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SELL…ALL THEY SOLD WAS SPECULATION….
prosecutethefraud…they have done alot of criminal shit and are still doing alot of criminal shit, but that has not stopped them yet…Everyone knows that we were not told what they were doing with those signatures……that is how they got away with it….We all want them thrown in prison and the loans rescinded…There are millions of people who do not know this stuff and never will figure it out..and THAT IS A CRIME…….I realize there has to be an equitable transfer of the promisorry note and they don’t have proof of that….What makes me furious is the fact that THOUSANDS of AMERICANS have been and are being led to the slaughter EVERYTDAY IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA…. BECA– USE THEY DON’T KNOW THEIR RIGHTS AND THE LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT WE THE PEOPLE…I HAVE WITNESSED IT IN FRAUDCLOSURE COURT FIRST HAND…and that is UNCONSTITUIONAL AND UNAMERICAN….DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY HAVE TRUSTED THE ATTORNEYS AND HAVE HAD THEIR HOMES STOLEN? MY OWN SISTER IS ONE OF THEM..PROSECUTE THE FRAUD IS EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN…THEY ARE STEALING OUR COUNTRY BECA– USE OF WHAT MILLIONS DON’T KNOW AND IT IS SNEAKY AND ROTTEN…AND THAT IS WHY I AM PISSED OFF…
I meant to say everyone HERE knows they DID NOT tell us what they were doing with our signatures…THAT IS HOW THEY PULLED OFF THIS MASSIVE COLLATERAL FRAUD CRIME SPREE..If we knew most of us would have NEVER SIGNED THAT CONTRACT….They told us they were selling THE LOAN……THEY DID NOT TELL US WHAT THEY WERE REALLY DOING WAS SELLING AN INTEREST IN THE NOTE…MULTIPLE TIMES……
They were actually selling an interest in EVERY ASPECT OF THOSE LOANS…..AND THEY HAD NO SKIN IN THE GAME…THEY LENT US NO MONEY….
It is way past time people stopped trying to powder puff this..this is not about me or you saving our home…this is about THESE NWO CROOKS, stealing our country…..to pay for the EXPONENTIAL DERIVATIVES FRAUD OF THEIR PERPS!!!!..THEY ARE GETTING AWAY WITH STEALING OUR COUNTRY….BECA– USE OUR GOVERMENT IS COMPLETELY CORRUPT …….THEY ARE BANKING ON WHAT THE MASSES DO NOT KNOW….AND THEY ARE USING THAT AND THE FACT THEIR ARE NO ATTORNEYS TO STEAL OUR COUNTRY……..90% DON’T FIGHT THEIR FORECLOSURE…….MILLIONS OF HOMES ARE NOT LEGALLY FORECLOSEABLE YET, THEY ARE GETTING AWAY WITH IT ON A MASSIVE SCALE……!!!!!!
This is the one aspect of Fraudclosure that all these sites need to focus on, the securitization of the mortgage and what the banks do with the note to lien it up with the FED Reserve money. The banks have no beneficial interest in any home loan, its not their money. This always gets lost in the shuffle and never takes front page.
PROSECUTE THE FRAUD: THEY — USED THE BACKS OF THE U.S. TAXPAYER TO SECURITIZE MORTGAGE LOANS…..BUT WHAT THEY REALLY DID WAS SELL INTERESTS IN A MONEY FLOW WITH NO COLLATERAL BACKING THAT UP….THEY DID NOT ACTUALLY SELL THE LOANS….THEY SOLD AN INTEREST IN HOW THAT LOAN WOULD PERFORM AMONG OTHER EXOTIC DERIVATIVES…..WHAT THEY DID WAS SELL AN INTEREST IN MANY SPECULATIONS……NOT AN INTEREST IN ONE MORTGAGE…THAT IS HOW THEY CREATED THEIR EXPONENTIAL MORTGAGE FRAUD DEBT……THEY OWE THEIR INVESTORS HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS BECA– USE OF WHAT THEY DID……..THIS IS NTO THE DEBT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE….I TOOK OUT ONE MORTGAGE, NOT HUNDREDS….THAT IS WHY WALL STREET, THE GSE’S AND THE BANKS DEBT IS UNSUSTAINABLE…..! IT CAN NEVER BE REPAID…AND AS A RESULT….. THEY MUST RESCIND THE FRAUDULENTLY INDUCED MORTGAGES…..THESE INSITUTIONS ARE INSOLVENT ON PAPER AND ARE ROBBING AND STEALING AMERICA TO PAY FOR ALL OF THEIR FRAUD……AND THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS ALLOWING IT…..!
TRUTH IS, IT IS THE U.S. TAXPAYER WHO ARE WELL WITHIN OUR LEGAL RIGHTS TO FORECLOSE ON THESE WALL STREET CRIMINALS, BANKS AND GSE’s…….FOR RINGING UP THE U.S. TAXPAYERS CREDIT CARD EXPONENTIONALLY……THEY DID THAT WITH NO COLLATERAL BACKING THAT DEBT UP…..THEY ALL BELONG IN PRISON…..AND SO DO THE TRAITOR POLITICIANS WHO ARE ALLOWING THIS ROBBERY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO CONTINUE…..
THEY OWE THE U.S. TAXPAYER TRILLIONS…AS WELL AS THE 401 K’S AND OTHER RETIREMENT MONEY AND OTHER INVESTMENTS THEY HAVE STOLEN FROM WE THE PEOPLE TO TRY AND COVER UP FOR ALL OF THEIR FRAUD…..THEY OWE US FOR THE TAXPAYER FUNDED BAILOUTS AND WE WANT OUR STOLEN HOMES AND BUSINESSES RETURNED TO WE THE PEOPLE AS WELL…THIS WAS THE BIGGEST ROBBERY OF OUR WEALTH IN HISTORY……
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PEOPLE BUYING HOMES THEY COULD NOT AFFORD….THIS HAS TO DO WITH WHAT THE GES’S, THE BANKS AND WALL STREET DID WITH THOSE NOTES AFTER THE FRAUDULENT INDUCEMENT AND THE THEFT OF U.S. TAXPAYER MONEY OCCURED…THEY COMMITTED MASSIVE COLLATERAL FRAUD….BACKED BY ZERO….THEY CREATED HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS IN UNSUSTAINABLE DEBTS…..AND THEY ARE ROBBING AMERICA FOR THEIR CRIMES…MONEY THAT CAN NEVER BE REPAID IN OUR LIFETIMES OR OUR CHILDRENS LIFETIMES….THEY ARE LYING TO STEAL EVERYTHING FROM THE PEOPLE AND THEY ARE TRYING TO CREATE ETERNAL DEBT SLAVERY IN THE NAME OF DEBT…….THEIR DEBT, NOT OURS!!!!! IT IS ALL A SHAM AND A FRAUD…. THEY WANT GLOBAL COMMUNISM….NO OWNERSHIP OF ANYTHING OF VALUE FOR THE PEOPLE…AT ALL..
PROSECUTE THE FRAUD…..BTW…THEY NEVER GAVE US A HOME LOAN….NOT THE GSE’S, NOT THE BANKS AND CERTAINLY NOT WALL STREET…..ALL THEY WANTED WAS OUR SIGNATURE TO GAMBLE OFF OF……WE THE PEOPLE, THE 99% ARE WHO ARE OWED ALOT OF MONEY FROM THESE CRIMINALS…..WHO COMMITTED MASSIVE COLLATERAL FRAUD IN OUR NAMES…..WHAT THEY DID WAS NOT CAPITALISM….IT WAS GAMBLING…AND IT WAS CRIMINAL..THEY SOLD NOTHING TO THEIR INVESTORS BUT AN EMPTY BILL OF GOODS…AND THERE WAS NOTHING BACKING UP THAT SALE…CERTAINLY NOT OUR HOMES AND OUR WEALTH….WHAT THEY DID WAS COMMIT A MASSIVE ROBBERY UNDER THE GUISE OF DEBT…PEOPLE BOUGHT HOMES THEY COULD NOT AFFORD….THAT IS THE BIG LIE THEY AND THE MEDIA ARE USING…….TO TRY AND COVER UP FOR OUR ROBBERY…..THE ONLY ENTITIES WHO ARE DROWNING IN DEBT ARE WALL STREET, THE GSE’S AND THE BANKS….AND IT IS THEIR DEBT, NOT OURS……
Prosecute the fraud…..Thanks for the compliment….I realize to give information is great….but if that information is not explained throughly ….it can get rather confusing…especially to someone who has not been on this site for long…..when something confuses me I have to search the matter out…so I try to help by bringing up what I have learned…An example….I vent say’s the mortgages were paid by the U S Treasury..our tax dollars….I thought the same thing…till I read of how the bank used the note up to 33 times to profit on that same note…in my figureing of facts…that was alot of money on one note and I than questioned this on millions of notes… I was confusing myself……So I went into searching the Federal Reserve…and found the Note was deposited by the bank to the Fed. Res. the feeder of money to the banks…..so at this point I have a question……Did the U S Treasury ever have an involvement with the mortgage notes? Or was it straight from bank to Fed. Reserve ….the International Bankers…..who may have control of our tax dollars…..?
Let me rephrase that then….THE U.S. TREASURY ISSUES CREDIT BACKED BY THE U.S. TAXPAYER’S SIGNATURE WHICH IS IN THE FORM OF BONDS AND
TREASURIES….
…..THE FEDERAL RESERVE CASHES THE CHECK BUT NOT UNTIL THE U.S. TREASURY ISSUES CREDIT BACKED BY THE U.S. TAXPAYER IN THE FORM OF OUR SIGNATURE….
THE PRETENDER LENDER CANNOT GET ISSUED CREDIT WITHOUT COLLATERAL TO BACK UP THAT NOTE…WHICH IS OUR SIGNATURE….THE COLLATERAL GETS ISSUED TO THE HOMEOWNER IN THE FORM OF THE DEED…
…THE FUNDS GET DISPERSED FROM THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK.. THOSE FUNDS ARE ONLY DISPERSED ON THE ISSUANCE OF CREDIT BY THE US. TREASURY DEPT. AND OUR SIGNATURE IS WHAT CREATES THE ISSUE OF CREDIT BY THE U.S. TREASURY…
THE FEDERAL RESERVE DOES NOT ISSUE CREDIT….
….OUR SIGNATURE GENERATES THE DISPERSMENT OF FUNDS BY THE ISSUANCE OF CREDIT…BY THE U.S. TREASURY….
GEITHNER STATED THAT THE U.S. TREASURY WILL NOT ISSUE CREDIT WITHOUT COLLATERAL TO BACK THAT UP……THAT WAS OUR SIGNATURES…..WHAT WENT ON AFTER THAT WITH THE BONDS, THE TREASURIES AND THE NOTES WAS EXPONENTIAL COLLATERAL FRAUD….
I DID NOT SAY THE MORTAGAGES WERE PAID BY THE U.S. TREASURY…I SAID THE U.S. TREASURY ISSUES THE CREDIT BACKED BY THE U.S. TAXPAYER…..
THE U.S. TREASURY DID CASH THE NOTE…IN THE FORM OF THE ISSUANCE OF CREDIT…..
The U.S. TREASURY was a big player in this entire mortage “securitization” fiasco…The U.S. TAXPAYER BACKED ALL OF THE LOANS….The U.S. TREASURY WOULD BE THE ENTITY WHO SHOULD HAVE DESTROYED THE NOTES…THE ORIGINATOR DID NOT TAKE THE NOTE TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE TO CASH……IT IS THE U.S. TREASURY WHO ORIGINATED THE LOAN BY ISSUING CREDIT BACKED BY THE U.S. TAXPAYER………..AND CASHED THE NOTE….THE ACTUAL MONEY CAME FROM THE FED BUT THE ACTUAL TRANSACTION COULD NOT HAVE OCCURED WITHOUT THE U.S. TREASURY ISSUING THE CREDIT…..BASED ON OUR SIGNATURES………….THAT SIGNATURE ON THAT NOTE IS WHAT GENERATED THE COLLATERAL DEED THAT WAS SENT TO ALL OF US, AS WELL AS THE BONDS AND THE TREASURIES…..JOSH ROSNER WHO WROTE THE BOOK “RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT” SAID ON BLOOMBERG NEWS THAT FANNIE MAE ALSO BOUGHT BACK LOANS FOR 2-3cents ON THE DOLLAR….FANNIE GOT RICH PAYING THEMSELVES ON RETURNS ON EQUITY…AND THERE IS A HUGE ACCOUNTING SCANDAL AT FANNIE MAE.. THE LOANS WERE BACKED BY THE U..S TAXPAYER….AND FANNIE MAE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE INVESTING IN WAS ALOT OF FRAUD BUT, THEY HAD NO REAL SKIN IN THE GAME…………Everything was done in reverse….the homes were collateralized and paid for first backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. TAXPAYER…..BANKS DON’T PRINT MONEY OR LEND MONEY….AND EITHER DOES THE U.S. TREASURY..THE FED DOES…BUT THE FED CANNOT PRINT MONEY AND THE BANKS CANNOT “LEND” CREDIT WITHOUT THE ISSUANCE OF CREDIT BACKED BY THE U.S. TAXPAYER AND THAT CREDIT CAN ONLY BE ISSUED BY THE U.S. TREASURY….THE ONLY THING THAT BACKS OUR CURRENCY…..THE U.S. TAXPAYER…AND THAT IS ALL THANKS TO THE TRAITOR POLITICIANS….IF WE WERE NEVER TAKEN OFF OF THE GOLD STANDARD THERE COULD HAVE NEVER BEEN ALL OF THIS “LENDING”..
PROSECUTE THE FRAUD……WHEN WE RECEIVED THE COLLATERAL DEED…THE LOAN WAS RELEASED PAID…AND THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW….OUR HOMES ARE PAID FOR FREE AND CLEAR…
THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT……COMMUNISM…
This is precisely how they sneak COMMUNISM IN…UNDER THE GUISE OF PROTECTING THE PEOPLE…THEY ARE UNDERMINING ALL OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!!!
i VENT… One thing I question about our constitution….is….in the link Lies is all they tell…posted….it say’s our constitution was dissolved under bankruptcy …now the bankruptacy in the mid 90’s was like the 3rd or 4th bankruptacy…probably since 1933…..wonder when …in what year was it dissolved? Going back many years the government has not been for the people….now one can see where the constitution was ignored by Washington….the fake wars were not against other countries…it was orders from the NWO….the Hitler plan lived on after WW2…so did we have a constitution all those years or did we hold that belief that it was there??
Maybe the link will tell more on it…I read quite far into it..but had to stop…will continue tomorrow when alone so no noise…….My thinking tells me we still have the constitution in our hands…it is part of us….we have never let go of it….but on the other hand….our so called fake government has flushed it down the sewer…………
Marilyn, screw them and all of their lies….we all know the NWO crooks are blaming all of us for their crimes just to rob us and bankrupt all of us so that they can create a one world global tyranny…first they sneak in socialism, then communism under the guise of protection and then the end game is TOTALITARIANISM…Let them try to tell the American people we have no U.S. Constitution, I DARE THEM…They have been trying to weaken our U.S. CONSTITUTION and our BILL OF RIGHTS for decades because they FEAR IT and the rights that those documents afford the American People……..The entire collateral fraud debt burden is on the NEW WORLD ORDER because of what they told their perps to do and that was done just to steal our our jobs, our wealth and our assets…..and WE THE PEOPLE are NOT paying for it..Nor will we conform and comply to their HITLER PLAN FOR GLOBAL COMMUNISM…..They can shove THEIR MASSIVE DEBT IMPOSITION THAT THEY CREATED OUT OF THIN AIR BACKED BY ZERO….THE NEW EXC– USE IS THAT IS HOW CAPITALISM WORKS IS BULLSHIT…..YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING TO SELL, INSTEAD THEY WERE SELLING AN INTEREST IN A SPECULATION…..THEY WERE SELLING AN INTEREST IN MASSIVE LIES….$600TRILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF LIES…….I read what really ended the last great depression was debt forgiveness and it was no doubt debt forgiveness to their very own criminal friends who caused it….They can all eat their 1.2 Quadrillion in derivatives fraud and die…
How can you dissolve the U.S. CONSTITUTION IN A BANKRUPTCY…? That is the most obscene thing I have ever heard…The people will burn the country to the ground if they try and feed us that story…! I have heard a lot of stories like we didn’t really win the war against the British and all kinds of crap….They will tell us anything to save their evil plans for Global tyranny…
I vent….I am going to google that on the Constitution….see what I find. If one looks at all the presidents who went for the NWO to destroy America….that was treason in the Constitution…wasn’t it? And they still did it…..so where was the constitution for all these years? Or was it no one caught the government on treason? Find that hard to believe…the word has been out on 9/11 for some time now…inside job…and old man Bush talked of the NWO…and nazi blood to boot….anyways I will seek some answers and let you know if it was shredded.
Marilyn, Alot has come out about 9/11 but, just when you think you know the truth, you find out there is more, alot more…..My mother believes the 9/11 lie…what I found out tonite, just might change her mind…..
I vent…Before I get to our Chttp://www.sovereignindependent.com/?p=27976onstitution….England claims to have lost their Constitution….. so Far…I did read an article on Judge Napolitano’s book…The Constitution in Exile…..a prefessor wrote the article….this professor wrote books on Abe Lincoln…Abe was not the honest Abe…he was a known liar….and a ‘ destroyer to the Constitution…had to laugh when I read that…Obama often spoke of the honest Abe…and how he looked up to Abe Lincoln… Abe ‘ Unmasked ‘…..now I know why he looked up to old Abe…
But so far there is alot of searches on the men who destroyed the Constitution…got to get to that part ……but England is having trouble on their Constitution with claims it was destroyed…so it does not look good for us either…..
I vent….something screwed up on my comment……
http://www.sovereignindependent.com/?p=27976 try that now…..it is on England’s claim that their Const. was destroyed.
I am not drinking that Kool-aid…All of Europe had to give up their Constitutions in order to enter the Euro….England might be screwed but that is their problem…that has nothing to do with our Constitution..at all..
Edward T Hall was the CONceiver of “Proxemics,” and ‘The Silent Language,” a protege of one termed:Rothschild whom penned: “Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars,” [see: @www.lawfulpath.com] They were Mentors to Zebinew Brezinski, whowas Mentor to: O’bama, Geithner, and Brezinski Jr., along with Soros and Kissinger, and OTHER; C.I.A, handlers!
Interesting Note: “Edward T. Hall’s” Great grandson, [Edwart T. Hall,II or III,] made “his” YouTUBE “DEBUT,” in: “Infiltration of Co-Intel-Pro & MK-ULTRA in OWS movement investigation.”
Also Those curious to TECHNOCRACY; may visit: Dr. Patrick M.Woods’ @www.augustforecast.com and WATCH the Video closely: Observe the CLOUDS off to the Left of graphics; re-presenting The CLOUD Datum FUSION assimilation CENTERS for the NEW World Order’s Plan, to MONITOR ALL; Info Datum, ad infinitum, from the World Wide Web of Deceit andinfo Gathering, to INSURE proper: RESPONSES, to Un-acceptable Thoughts, and Terms! can ou SPELL: BIG BrotherHOOD on STEROIDS?
Ayan Rand, is Reported to have Said: “You can ignore Circumstances; But You can NOT: avoid the Cicumstances, of Ignoring Circumstances?
Many men know many THINGS! No man knows EveryTHING! SomeONE Knows SomeTHING? Whom Knows?
“without prejudice’ U.C.C.1-308 specifically by: “Doctrine of: Private Attorneys General
this is a crime this judge has been bought and sold. we have the 1st amendment freedom of speach i guess he forgot about that . money talks louder. just think he cant afford his either how do you think he, the judge , is staying afloat. by getting money from the big banks. that is how this whole thing is going pulling the wool over everyones eyes. those of us who are educated or i should say awake to the myth of freedom know noe of the money is real.. all debt in this country is manufactured. actually with out debt there would be no money. none of the banks can lend their own money that was rule set in 1913. banks can not lend out their own credit. when we sign a car loan agreement,, acredit card application, or a mortgage note. that signiture is taken to the federal reserve the “bank” officer endorses this promisoory note deposited in their account “wala”
money is created. fake money, by your signiture so it is actually your money the bank is loaning you
( thats another story please see http://viewzone2.com/collateralx.htmlis )
it is the money from the federal reserve. actually not even money. it is an electronic money. when we pay this Loan back the bank keeps the intrest but the money is not actually theirs or anyones. it is fake , made up, made of thin air. actually i do not like knowing htis because it pisses me off. that they tanked the economy, took all the jobs and we used our “credit” cards to stay afloat but now because there are no jobs we can not pay these bills. please everyone stop paying these fake banks. the only real money that exists is money in oyur account. the bank actually owns no money. this banking systen=m is a scam and we are being scamed. do not allow another house to be confiscated or another BK. tell creditors you know about this scam. they need to prove to you how they funded the laon, car, credit car, home. i bet they can not produce ownership.
please watch this video and your eyes will be way open now. and you can thank youself for finding this web site. next step is what do we do with this info and save our homes, and our families
Zeitgeist Addendum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EewGMBOB4Gg
this is larger then you and me we need to have a plan this knows no boundry of faith, or political
soory wrong post above i wanted everyone to know about the birth certificate facade the birth certificate scam
http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_matrix_the_federal_reserve_the_banks_and_the_strawman.htm
http://rainbowwarrior2005.wordpress.com/2008/09/29/federal-reserve-owners-and-history/
please everyone we are awake we can not be fooled. please watch movie above
Zeitgeist Addendum