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		By: izraul		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lawyers have a rule of ethics. Something clearly missing these days.]]></description>
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		By: izraul		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2015 00:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You must be kidding, right? None of this is happening without the lawyers and both sides are making a fortune, win or lose. Chase employes over 500 unethical weasel dirtbags who obviously ignore the basic rules of contract law. Lying, thieving, rotten bottomfeeders. And with 7+ years of outright blatant fraud homeowners still cant manage to find 1 descent layer to bring the legal wrath down on them let alone save our homes.  lol  amazing!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be kidding, right? None of this is happening without the lawyers and both sides are making a fortune, win or lose. Chase employes over 500 unethical weasel dirtbags who obviously ignore the basic rules of contract law. Lying, thieving, rotten bottomfeeders. And with 7+ years of outright blatant fraud homeowners still cant manage to find 1 descent layer to bring the legal wrath down on them let alone save our homes.  lol  amazing!</p>
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		By: stopGOVTwaste		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 04:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2010/10/21/wapo-activists-lawyers-got-it-right-on-the-foreclosure-mess/#comment-9070&quot;&gt;stopGOVTwaste&lt;/a&gt;.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/39056847/SGW-s-guide-to-Toxic-Discharge]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/39056847/SGW-s-guide-to-Toxic-Discharge" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.scribd.com/doc/39056847/SGW-s-guide-to-Toxic-Discharge</a></p>
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		By: J Glenn Lowe		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2010/10/21/wapo-activists-lawyers-got-it-right-on-the-foreclosure-mess/#comment-9241</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J Glenn Lowe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 03:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2010/10/21/wapo-activists-lawyers-got-it-right-on-the-foreclosure-mess/#comment-9147&quot;&gt;J Glenn Lowe&lt;/a&gt;.

I think we are coming to a point in our kindergarten like society where we realize that the authorities and so called licensed monkey brained professionals are the root of all of our problems. When we realize that we are the authority, we will not need anyone, or any laws, or any outside authority to realize that all we have to is discuss, reveal, contemplate, and take action like we care about one another to solve most of these simple problems that a so called civilized society could do before breakfast. I believe that we are entering a time in our growth that we will be forced to learn from what we have become, and then by acknowledging it, we will then be able to move forward and create a system that works. An Empire in Decline is the birthplace for a better way to do things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2010/10/21/wapo-activists-lawyers-got-it-right-on-the-foreclosure-mess/#comment-9147">J Glenn Lowe</a>.</p>
<p>I think we are coming to a point in our kindergarten like society where we realize that the authorities and so called licensed monkey brained professionals are the root of all of our problems. When we realize that we are the authority, we will not need anyone, or any laws, or any outside authority to realize that all we have to is discuss, reveal, contemplate, and take action like we care about one another to solve most of these simple problems that a so called civilized society could do before breakfast. I believe that we are entering a time in our growth that we will be forced to learn from what we have become, and then by acknowledging it, we will then be able to move forward and create a system that works. An Empire in Decline is the birthplace for a better way to do things.</p>
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		By: MS J		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2010/10/21/wapo-activists-lawyers-got-it-right-on-the-foreclosure-mess/#comment-9221</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MS J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 02:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2010/10/21/wapo-activists-lawyers-got-it-right-on-the-foreclosure-mess/#comment-9147&quot;&gt;J Glenn Lowe&lt;/a&gt;.

@ J Glenn Lowe...You got that right SELF EMPOWERMENT.....The lawyer I had wasn&#039;t doing anything but taking my money.  He should of been the one investingating my case not I.  He did nothing but made court appearances, write letters and laughed and talked with the adversaries.  And once I made the discovery of fraud I called him and there was dead SILENCE!!!!!!!!  That confirmed my suspicion that he is in collusion with these pricks.  He had the nerve to tell me to bring what I found to his office but I refused.   He really took me for a fool....NOT because he was taken for one when he didn&#039;t get paid.  Trust me I&#039;m so well prepared.....You can&#039;t trust any of them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2010/10/21/wapo-activists-lawyers-got-it-right-on-the-foreclosure-mess/#comment-9147">J Glenn Lowe</a>.</p>
<p>@ J Glenn Lowe&#8230;You got that right SELF EMPOWERMENT&#8230;..The lawyer I had wasn&#8217;t doing anything but taking my money.  He should of been the one investingating my case not I.  He did nothing but made court appearances, write letters and laughed and talked with the adversaries.  And once I made the discovery of fraud I called him and there was dead SILENCE!!!!!!!!  That confirmed my suspicion that he is in collusion with these pricks.  He had the nerve to tell me to bring what I found to his office but I refused.   He really took me for a fool&#8230;.NOT because he was taken for one when he didn&#8217;t get paid.  Trust me I&#8217;m so well prepared&#8230;..You can&#8217;t trust any of them.</p>
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		By: J Glenn Lowe		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2010/10/21/wapo-activists-lawyers-got-it-right-on-the-foreclosure-mess/#comment-9209</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J Glenn Lowe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 00:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2010/10/21/wapo-activists-lawyers-got-it-right-on-the-foreclosure-mess/#comment-9147&quot;&gt;J Glenn Lowe&lt;/a&gt;.

MS - Good job!!! it is obviously the only thing that anyone can do since the courts and the laws are ignoring real law anyway. Self empowerment with real information is the way to solve this problem. The lawyers can&#039;t help. The judges are incapable of reading what they sign, politicians... well we all know what good a politician is...and Bankers? Well let&#039;s just say we could all live in a Utopia if they weren&#039;t  rigging the system for themselves for the last couple of thousand years.  J Glenn Lowe]]></description>
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<p>MS &#8211; Good job!!! it is obviously the only thing that anyone can do since the courts and the laws are ignoring real law anyway. Self empowerment with real information is the way to solve this problem. The lawyers can&#8217;t help. The judges are incapable of reading what they sign, politicians&#8230; well we all know what good a politician is&#8230;and Bankers? Well let&#8217;s just say we could all live in a Utopia if they weren&#8217;t  rigging the system for themselves for the last couple of thousand years.  J Glenn Lowe</p>
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		By: MS J		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2010/10/21/wapo-activists-lawyers-got-it-right-on-the-foreclosure-mess/#comment-9197</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MS J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2010/10/21/wapo-activists-lawyers-got-it-right-on-the-foreclosure-mess/#comment-9147&quot;&gt;J Glenn Lowe&lt;/a&gt;.

@ J  Glenn Lowe......I&#039;m in New York and I already went further than anyone would have normally to prove the blatant fraud I found in our documents.  I did my own investigation and couldn&#039;t believe what I&#039;ve discovered and submitted a &quot;Order to Show  Cause&quot; w/TRO&quot; to Supreme Court and it was granted.  Now people are asking me for my help as well.  But thank you anyway.  I was told that I need to become a PI........ I have to give no one but GOD the glory and praise for answering  prayers.......]]></description>
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<p>@ J  Glenn Lowe&#8230;&#8230;I&#8217;m in New York and I already went further than anyone would have normally to prove the blatant fraud I found in our documents.  I did my own investigation and couldn&#8217;t believe what I&#8217;ve discovered and submitted a &#8220;Order to Show  Cause&#8221; w/TRO&#8221; to Supreme Court and it was granted.  Now people are asking me for my help as well.  But thank you anyway.  I was told that I need to become a PI&#8230;&#8230;.. I have to give no one but GOD the glory and praise for answering  prayers&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		By: J Glenn Lowe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 18:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2010/10/21/wapo-activists-lawyers-got-it-right-on-the-foreclosure-mess/#comment-9099&quot;&gt;MS J&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello MS. If you are in CA or NV we may be able to help you. http://glenn.hersid.com/
Die Banker Die - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGFZ1Jj3ui8]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2010/10/21/wapo-activists-lawyers-got-it-right-on-the-foreclosure-mess/#comment-9099">MS J</a>.</p>
<p>Hello MS. If you are in CA or NV we may be able to help you. <a href="http://glenn.hersid.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://glenn.hersid.com/</a><br />
Die Banker Die &#8211; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGFZ1Jj3ui8" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGFZ1Jj3ui8</a></p>
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		By: Anna hernandez		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2010/10/21/wapo-activists-lawyers-got-it-right-on-the-foreclosure-mess/#comment-9076&quot;&gt;Paul L. Bishop&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with you to a certain extent, however Attorney&#039;s know they law and it would seem that given the information being exposed lately, they were in full agreement and willing to violate these laws in order to gain all the compensation the banks were offering them.

I dont&#039; think there is anyone innocent in this &quot;deal&quot;. Every licensed Mortgage Broker (which I am) knows that you do NOT forge signatures, falsify documents, prepare fraudulent documents and back date them, notarize documents without being present (I&#039;m not sure how you would do this without having some out of body experience). 

The Banks new when they were granting mortgages during the boom that the borrowers were not going to be able to repay them. They didn&#039;t care then because they knew they couldn&#039;t write mortgages fast enough to sell time and time again on the securityes exchange. They disregarded there own guildines, insisted on hiring their own appraisors (which as a licensed realtor I can attest that the minute that happened, appraisals increased dramatically). So they controlled the entire process and in turn created a market that really did not exist with prices inflated deliberately in order to increase their profits on each of these notes on the securities exchange. How can anyone believe that the lenders were cockholded by the borrowers? PLEASE!!! The averabe borrower might buy 3 to 5 homes in a lifetime and knows generally very little about mortgages except where to sign. On a purchase agreement, they are not given sufficient time to read the mountains of paperwork they are signing and MUST rely on the integrity, knowledge and disclosure of the mortgage broker, lender, title agent and realtor. Obviously many of the necessary disclosures were not made. I know this from personal experience. The Lenders were doing ok in Foreclosures without documents until some smart borrower said no, if I have to adhere to the law, then so do you. I assisted a friend locally by doing a forensic audit on their mortgage. This was a BoA loan, which violated RESPA, TIL, HUD, GFE, and on and on. Ironically, when she appeared in court armed, and said NO, you will so produce the note...BoA requested an Extension. We are 3.5 years later and the last appearance again they requested an extension. Why? Becuase they know they cannot foreclose, they cannot produce the documents necessary and in fact they sold the paper so they do NOT own the mortgage and have no legal right to foreclose. 

Why is it when it comes to banks and lenders en &#039;mass committing fraud, we call it a &quot;technicality&quot;. I suggest any individual try to foreclose on anyone with fraudulent documents and see where that gets you. Straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collet $200. 

This isn&#039;t a slight technicality. The lenders knew EXACTLY what they were doing, as did the Attorney&#039;s and the Notaries. If they didn&#039;t they should be disbarred for incompetence at least. 

Ok...no more Rant. I&#039;m just getting sick of everyone crying &quot;poor banks&quot;! They got the bailouts, tax dollars from the very people they are now throwing out of their homes. This isn&#039;t one or two instances, this is MILLLIONS. 

If an Attorney claims he didnt&#039; know he was breaking the law, then he should go back to law school. Ignorance when you are a professional, licensed to practice any profession, is not a defense. You are REQUIRED to know!  They are all guilty! Every single one of them and they should all be stripped of their freedoms and thrown in prison for perpetrating the a crime in the largest scale on the American People and literally being grossly instrumental in destroying an already shakey economy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2010/10/21/wapo-activists-lawyers-got-it-right-on-the-foreclosure-mess/#comment-9076">Paul L. Bishop</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with you to a certain extent, however Attorney&#8217;s know they law and it would seem that given the information being exposed lately, they were in full agreement and willing to violate these laws in order to gain all the compensation the banks were offering them.</p>
<p>I dont&#8217; think there is anyone innocent in this &#8220;deal&#8221;. Every licensed Mortgage Broker (which I am) knows that you do NOT forge signatures, falsify documents, prepare fraudulent documents and back date them, notarize documents without being present (I&#8217;m not sure how you would do this without having some out of body experience). </p>
<p>The Banks new when they were granting mortgages during the boom that the borrowers were not going to be able to repay them. They didn&#8217;t care then because they knew they couldn&#8217;t write mortgages fast enough to sell time and time again on the securityes exchange. They disregarded there own guildines, insisted on hiring their own appraisors (which as a licensed realtor I can attest that the minute that happened, appraisals increased dramatically). So they controlled the entire process and in turn created a market that really did not exist with prices inflated deliberately in order to increase their profits on each of these notes on the securities exchange. How can anyone believe that the lenders were cockholded by the borrowers? PLEASE!!! The averabe borrower might buy 3 to 5 homes in a lifetime and knows generally very little about mortgages except where to sign. On a purchase agreement, they are not given sufficient time to read the mountains of paperwork they are signing and MUST rely on the integrity, knowledge and disclosure of the mortgage broker, lender, title agent and realtor. Obviously many of the necessary disclosures were not made. I know this from personal experience. The Lenders were doing ok in Foreclosures without documents until some smart borrower said no, if I have to adhere to the law, then so do you. I assisted a friend locally by doing a forensic audit on their mortgage. This was a BoA loan, which violated RESPA, TIL, HUD, GFE, and on and on. Ironically, when she appeared in court armed, and said NO, you will so produce the note&#8230;BoA requested an Extension. We are 3.5 years later and the last appearance again they requested an extension. Why? Becuase they know they cannot foreclose, they cannot produce the documents necessary and in fact they sold the paper so they do NOT own the mortgage and have no legal right to foreclose. </p>
<p>Why is it when it comes to banks and lenders en &#8216;mass committing fraud, we call it a &#8220;technicality&#8221;. I suggest any individual try to foreclose on anyone with fraudulent documents and see where that gets you. Straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collet $200. </p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a slight technicality. The lenders knew EXACTLY what they were doing, as did the Attorney&#8217;s and the Notaries. If they didn&#8217;t they should be disbarred for incompetence at least. </p>
<p>Ok&#8230;no more Rant. I&#8217;m just getting sick of everyone crying &#8220;poor banks&#8221;! They got the bailouts, tax dollars from the very people they are now throwing out of their homes. This isn&#8217;t one or two instances, this is MILLLIONS. </p>
<p>If an Attorney claims he didnt&#8217; know he was breaking the law, then he should go back to law school. Ignorance when you are a professional, licensed to practice any profession, is not a defense. You are REQUIRED to know!  They are all guilty! Every single one of them and they should all be stripped of their freedoms and thrown in prison for perpetrating the a crime in the largest scale on the American People and literally being grossly instrumental in destroying an already shakey economy.</p>
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		By: MS J		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MS J]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 11:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr. Robinson, that&#039;s where you&#039;re wrong!!!!  We should be blaming the lawyers as well because they were hired knowing that these homes were being illegally and unlawfully foreclosed on.  It&#039;s all about GREED for money that these lawyers are after, I know because I&#039;m going through it right now.  The lawyers forged, submitted botched and fraudulent documents to the courts and county oiffices with intent of the frivoulous filing not being discovered.  Lawyers that are now being investigated aren&#039;t being investigated for no reason.  Look at David J. Stern in Flordia and Steven J. Baum in New York.  They are very much to blame as well, these underhanded lowlife devils....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Robinson, that&#8217;s where you&#8217;re wrong!!!!  We should be blaming the lawyers as well because they were hired knowing that these homes were being illegally and unlawfully foreclosed on.  It&#8217;s all about GREED for money that these lawyers are after, I know because I&#8217;m going through it right now.  The lawyers forged, submitted botched and fraudulent documents to the courts and county oiffices with intent of the frivoulous filing not being discovered.  Lawyers that are now being investigated aren&#8217;t being investigated for no reason.  Look at David J. Stern in Flordia and Steven J. Baum in New York.  They are very much to blame as well, these underhanded lowlife devils&#8230;.</p>
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