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	Comments on: John T. Kemp v. Countrywide Home Loans &#8211; Countrywide NEVER Transferred Notes	</title>
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		By: Sergio de la Cruz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sergio de la Cruz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BofA has repeatedly failed to provide me access to my original Note. BofA says I have no legal right to ask for such. The truth is that BofA as the Servicer has not followed the Judicial process when claiming ability to foreclose. Still no response to my RESPA QWR. Have you guys heard about the Administrative Process in lieu of filing withthe court? Well, there are entities and professionals (some questionable) who claim ability to serve the banks with an Administrative cliam. This is for the purpose to seek leverage that could translate into substantial principal qnd rate reductions. Do you know of any reputable entity out there that can process an Administrative Claim (REAP) and who charges reasonably for the service? After all, I have already secured perhaps up to 50% of the process already.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BofA has repeatedly failed to provide me access to my original Note. BofA says I have no legal right to ask for such. The truth is that BofA as the Servicer has not followed the Judicial process when claiming ability to foreclose. Still no response to my RESPA QWR. Have you guys heard about the Administrative Process in lieu of filing withthe court? Well, there are entities and professionals (some questionable) who claim ability to serve the banks with an Administrative cliam. This is for the purpose to seek leverage that could translate into substantial principal qnd rate reductions. Do you know of any reputable entity out there that can process an Administrative Claim (REAP) and who charges reasonably for the service? After all, I have already secured perhaps up to 50% of the process already.</p>
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		By: Hillary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hillary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 04:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well I guess thats why they never produced the notes in the first place because they don&#039;t have them. So thats why they invented that stupid UCC stuff and everything else-just brillant -now what you have is one big mess that no one can straighen out.   I think the real estate market is def going to come to grinding halt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I guess thats why they never produced the notes in the first place because they don&#8217;t have them. So thats why they invented that stupid UCC stuff and everything else-just brillant -now what you have is one big mess that no one can straighen out.   I think the real estate market is def going to come to grinding halt.</p>
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		By: indio007		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indio007]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 03:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love what they say about the Deed of trust and the note. The deed of trust can&#039;t control anything about the note. Matt Weidner got screwed on this point in Taylor v. Deutsche Bank. The 5th DCA Florida used the Deed of trust to prove who is the non-holder with rights to enforce.
5th DCA said...
&quot;It appears, consequently, that the mortgage document, reciting the
explicit agreement of Mr. Taylor, grants to MERS the status of a nonholder in
possession as that position is defined by section 673.3011.&quot;

This is 180 degrees from what the above  ruling says...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love what they say about the Deed of trust and the note. The deed of trust can&#8217;t control anything about the note. Matt Weidner got screwed on this point in Taylor v. Deutsche Bank. The 5th DCA Florida used the Deed of trust to prove who is the non-holder with rights to enforce.<br />
5th DCA said&#8230;<br />
&#8220;It appears, consequently, that the mortgage document, reciting the<br />
explicit agreement of Mr. Taylor, grants to MERS the status of a nonholder in<br />
possession as that position is defined by section 673.3011.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is 180 degrees from what the above  ruling says&#8230;</p>
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		By: Whippy FLoggman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Whippy FLoggman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 01:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SM

&quot; I guarantee they are circling the wagons and trying to come up with contingencies/excuses for this.&quot;

Lets go back 3 years and recall the &quot;LOST NOTE&quot; BS.  This was the excuse! This was the Head Fake given to the drooling, complacent, incompetent Judge&#039;s that set up the Home run!

The notes &#038; MTG&#039;s were never lost! At all times, the Plantiff knew where the Mtg &#038; Notes were.  But even as the Original Notes trickle in under cover of  the LOST NOTE, what you have to ask yourself is where did they come from? Who sent them? is the endorsement legitimate ( is it a real person ), a real person?

Never argue a UCC claim.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SM</p>
<p>&#8221; I guarantee they are circling the wagons and trying to come up with contingencies/excuses for this.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lets go back 3 years and recall the &#8220;LOST NOTE&#8221; BS.  This was the excuse! This was the Head Fake given to the drooling, complacent, incompetent Judge&#8217;s that set up the Home run!</p>
<p>The notes &amp; MTG&#8217;s were never lost! At all times, the Plantiff knew where the Mtg &amp; Notes were.  But even as the Original Notes trickle in under cover of  the LOST NOTE, what you have to ask yourself is where did they come from? Who sent them? is the endorsement legitimate ( is it a real person ), a real person?</p>
<p>Never argue a UCC claim.</p>
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		By: Whippy FLoggman		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2010/11/22/john-t-kemp-v-countrywide-home-loans-countrywide-never-transferred-notes/#comment-13452</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Whippy FLoggman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SM............you said:

&quot;Even if the notes were endorsed, without DELIVERY the negotiation of the instrument is not completed. Delivery of an endorsed copy, either paper or digital, doesn’t really cut it. Neither does a good intention of delivery. &quot;

How do you endorse something that does not belong to you???????????  Even in the event you can, how do you explain you had authority to transfer something that did not belong to you??

Most of the FAKE Banks know their busted!  SO what they do to circumvent your argument is GET YOU into a UCC argument!  WHY...........because the Incompetent Judges already bought this argument hook,line, and sinker for the last 48 months.  

This means you loose, unless you smack them across the face with a PSA defense!  OR unless you get a DEPO from a higher up that admits &quot; yea..we never transferred a damn thing &quot;  WHY??  &quot;Because we could, or because we screwed up &quot;.   

Get a BANK CLOWN under oath, and they sing like a bird!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SM&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;you said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Even if the notes were endorsed, without DELIVERY the negotiation of the instrument is not completed. Delivery of an endorsed copy, either paper or digital, doesn’t really cut it. Neither does a good intention of delivery. &#8221;</p>
<p>How do you endorse something that does not belong to you???????????  Even in the event you can, how do you explain you had authority to transfer something that did not belong to you??</p>
<p>Most of the FAKE Banks know their busted!  SO what they do to circumvent your argument is GET YOU into a UCC argument!  WHY&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..because the Incompetent Judges already bought this argument hook,line, and sinker for the last 48 months.  </p>
<p>This means you loose, unless you smack them across the face with a PSA defense!  OR unless you get a DEPO from a higher up that admits &#8221; yea..we never transferred a damn thing &#8221;  WHY??  &#8220;Because we could, or because we screwed up &#8220;.   </p>
<p>Get a BANK CLOWN under oath, and they sing like a bird!</p>
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		By: Stupendous Man - Defender of Liberty - Foe of Tyranny		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2010/11/22/john-t-kemp-v-countrywide-home-loans-countrywide-never-transferred-notes/#comment-13436</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stupendous Man - Defender of Liberty - Foe of Tyranny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 21:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[UCC 3-201:

(1) &quot;Negotiation&quot; means a transfer of possession, whether voluntary or involuntary, of an instrument by a person other than the issuer to a person who thereby becomes its holder.
(2) Except for negotiation by a remitter, if an instrument is payable to an identified person, negotiation requires transfer of possession of the instrument and its indorsement by the holder. If an instrument is payable to bearer, it may be negotiated by transfer of possession alone.

Even if the notes were indorsed, without DELIVERY the negotiation of the instrument is not completed.  Delivery of an indorsed copy, either paper or digital, doesn&#039;t really cut it. Neither does a good intention of delivery. 

As for the &quot;constructive delivery&quot; idea of Kessler I don&#039;t think that holds water. For instance try getting money from a bank by saying &quot;Well, there is this check made out to someone else, but indorsed to me. I&#039;d like to cash it. I don&#039;t actually have the check, mind you, but I do have this electronic copy of the check. They meant to send it to me but never did.&quot; 

Still, it remains to be seen how many originators engaged in this failure to deliver. I guarantee they are circling the wagons and trying to come up with contingencies/excuses for this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UCC 3-201:</p>
<p>(1) &#8220;Negotiation&#8221; means a transfer of possession, whether voluntary or involuntary, of an instrument by a person other than the issuer to a person who thereby becomes its holder.<br />
(2) Except for negotiation by a remitter, if an instrument is payable to an identified person, negotiation requires transfer of possession of the instrument and its indorsement by the holder. If an instrument is payable to bearer, it may be negotiated by transfer of possession alone.</p>
<p>Even if the notes were indorsed, without DELIVERY the negotiation of the instrument is not completed.  Delivery of an indorsed copy, either paper or digital, doesn&#8217;t really cut it. Neither does a good intention of delivery. </p>
<p>As for the &#8220;constructive delivery&#8221; idea of Kessler I don&#8217;t think that holds water. For instance try getting money from a bank by saying &#8220;Well, there is this check made out to someone else, but indorsed to me. I&#8217;d like to cash it. I don&#8217;t actually have the check, mind you, but I do have this electronic copy of the check. They meant to send it to me but never did.&#8221; </p>
<p>Still, it remains to be seen how many originators engaged in this failure to deliver. I guarantee they are circling the wagons and trying to come up with contingencies/excuses for this.</p>
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		By: Whippy FLoggman		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2010/11/22/john-t-kemp-v-countrywide-home-loans-countrywide-never-transferred-notes/#comment-13423</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Whippy FLoggman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[IF the notes/MTG/endorsements never happened which educes a fraudulent transfer ( assignment or no assignment ), its all over!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF the notes/MTG/endorsements never happened which educes a fraudulent transfer ( assignment or no assignment ), its all over!</p>
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		By: Whippy FLoggman		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2010/11/22/john-t-kemp-v-countrywide-home-loans-countrywide-never-transferred-notes/#comment-13421</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Whippy FLoggman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 19:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[KESSLER.............................................the Servicing Company DID KNOW THIS!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KESSLER&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;the Servicing Company DID KNOW THIS!</p>
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		By: Whippy FLoggman		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2010/11/22/john-t-kemp-v-countrywide-home-loans-countrywide-never-transferred-notes/#comment-13420</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Whippy FLoggman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 19:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The practice of never transferring DOCS to the TRUST has been going on for years!  PLAINTIFF Atty&#039;s have known about this for years!  the TIP OFF is the &quot;lost note&quot; BS fraud which was designed to hoodwink the judge by the ROBO Attny Plaintiff.  The idea being the authoritarian figure ( plaintiff ) tricks the Judge who never thought a officer of the court would perjure himself.

2ndly, while the judge get the head fake on the LOST NOTE,  Plaintiff sneaks in the endorsement in blank, and UCC defenses, and the the Original note/Mtg suddenly pop up!  ITS THE PERFECT CRIME!!

FACT IS, its illegal to transfer STOLEN PROPERTY that should have been transferred years earlier to the designated Owner makes the NOW endorsement fatally defective. 

How can a Burglar possible explain to the court ( the originating entity) WHY THEY HAVE BEEN SITTING ON NOTES &#038; MTGS for the last 36 months after the TRUST is CLOSED??

3rdly, eve if the JUDGE does allow the transfer, the argument turns to AUTHORITY!  if you look in ANY PSA, there is no provision for NOT TRANSFERRING the DOCS!! ( Unless they are Stolen ).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The practice of never transferring DOCS to the TRUST has been going on for years!  PLAINTIFF Atty&#8217;s have known about this for years!  the TIP OFF is the &#8220;lost note&#8221; BS fraud which was designed to hoodwink the judge by the ROBO Attny Plaintiff.  The idea being the authoritarian figure ( plaintiff ) tricks the Judge who never thought a officer of the court would perjure himself.</p>
<p>2ndly, while the judge get the head fake on the LOST NOTE,  Plaintiff sneaks in the endorsement in blank, and UCC defenses, and the the Original note/Mtg suddenly pop up!  ITS THE PERFECT CRIME!!</p>
<p>FACT IS, its illegal to transfer STOLEN PROPERTY that should have been transferred years earlier to the designated Owner makes the NOW endorsement fatally defective. </p>
<p>How can a Burglar possible explain to the court ( the originating entity) WHY THEY HAVE BEEN SITTING ON NOTES &amp; MTGS for the last 36 months after the TRUST is CLOSED??</p>
<p>3rdly, eve if the JUDGE does allow the transfer, the argument turns to AUTHORITY!  if you look in ANY PSA, there is no provision for NOT TRANSFERRING the DOCS!! ( Unless they are Stolen ).</p>
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		By: indio007		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indio007]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 19:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s what&#039;s screwing with my brain. If the notes are negotiated to the trust the certificates are &quot;purchased&quot;. It&#039;s no different than buying a raffle ticket with Federal Reserve Notes except these are the notes of numerous different makers.
The messed up thing here is the Depositor never &quot;paid&quot; for the certificates if the note wasn&#039;t transferred.

I think people are missing the point is notes are money not chattel property.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s what&#8217;s screwing with my brain. If the notes are negotiated to the trust the certificates are &#8220;purchased&#8221;. It&#8217;s no different than buying a raffle ticket with Federal Reserve Notes except these are the notes of numerous different makers.<br />
The messed up thing here is the Depositor never &#8220;paid&#8221; for the certificates if the note wasn&#8217;t transferred.</p>
<p>I think people are missing the point is notes are money not chattel property.</p>
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