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		By: acmodspecialists		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[acmodspecialists]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Dec 2010 04:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why am i not surprise? this is probably 1 case of thousands cases that  are there but we don&#039;t here about 
Thank you B o A for violating property rights in this country every day, were is the Justice in this country when is about banks?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why am i not surprise? this is probably 1 case of thousands cases that  are there but we don&#8217;t here about<br />
Thank you B o A for violating property rights in this country every day, were is the Justice in this country when is about banks?</p>
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		By: RAMONA		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2010 03:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2010/12/11/foreclosure-fraud-simple-bofa-refi-turns-into-foreclosure-nightmare/#comment-15915&quot;&gt;JS&lt;/a&gt;.

bac does the same unless they have changed it recently]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2010/12/11/foreclosure-fraud-simple-bofa-refi-turns-into-foreclosure-nightmare/#comment-15915">JS</a>.</p>
<p>bac does the same unless they have changed it recently</p>
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		By: J Glenn Lowe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 23:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[CEO Brian Moynihan lied his ass off on National Television saying he was taking houses the legal way.
This song is dedicated to him and his Gang of Banksters. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGFZ1Jj3ui8
  Die Banker Die by J Glenn Lowe - A Tribute to Wall Street Banksters and Fraudgate]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CEO Brian Moynihan lied his ass off on National Television saying he was taking houses the legal way.<br />
This song is dedicated to him and his Gang of Banksters. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGFZ1Jj3ui8" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGFZ1Jj3ui8</a><br />
  Die Banker Die by J Glenn Lowe &#8211; A Tribute to Wall Street Banksters and Fraudgate</p>
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		By: JS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not sure where to post this, so I&#039;ll just document it here.

For at least THREE days running the CHASE phone number for loan modification and foreclosure issues, (800) 848-9380, prompts for the last 4 digits of your SS #, gives you a menu choice, plays the same recording twice back to back, and then promptly drops your call.  These is no way to call them regarding your mortgage, loan modification, or foreclosure!  

Should I be surprised?  Does anyone believe for a moment that this office didn&#039;t notice that calls weren&#039;t coming in?

Is this what Stephanie Mudick and David Lowman meant when they said they that they treat customers with respect and honesty?  Is this how they are doing everything they can to help America&#039;s struggling homeowners? 

I found a a phone number for Stephanie Mudick online, but of course that number is now out of service too!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure where to post this, so I&#8217;ll just document it here.</p>
<p>For at least THREE days running the CHASE phone number for loan modification and foreclosure issues, (800) 848-9380, prompts for the last 4 digits of your SS #, gives you a menu choice, plays the same recording twice back to back, and then promptly drops your call.  These is no way to call them regarding your mortgage, loan modification, or foreclosure!  </p>
<p>Should I be surprised?  Does anyone believe for a moment that this office didn&#8217;t notice that calls weren&#8217;t coming in?</p>
<p>Is this what Stephanie Mudick and David Lowman meant when they said they that they treat customers with respect and honesty?  Is this how they are doing everything they can to help America&#8217;s struggling homeowners? </p>
<p>I found a a phone number for Stephanie Mudick online, but of course that number is now out of service too!</p>
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		By: N24REAL		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is almost the same thing that happened to us.  We received a letter from the lender stating that they could refi and give us lower payments and interest rate.  We were not behind on our loan.  Little did we know, the nightmare would begin when we made the phone call to them asking about the refi.  We are still fighting for our home today and do not plan on them stealing it away from us because they lied to us!  They actually closed out another loan for us but did not fund, they didnt have any plans on funding it for us.  We were set up to default because of the equity we had built up in the loan.  They can make more money if they foreclose than if we just made all the payments.  This is just not right!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is almost the same thing that happened to us.  We received a letter from the lender stating that they could refi and give us lower payments and interest rate.  We were not behind on our loan.  Little did we know, the nightmare would begin when we made the phone call to them asking about the refi.  We are still fighting for our home today and do not plan on them stealing it away from us because they lied to us!  They actually closed out another loan for us but did not fund, they didnt have any plans on funding it for us.  We were set up to default because of the equity we had built up in the loan.  They can make more money if they foreclose than if we just made all the payments.  This is just not right!!!</p>
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		By: housemanrob		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 16:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Deja Vue all over again!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deja Vue all over again!!</p>
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		By: internetasker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 15:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2010/12/11/foreclosure-fraud-simple-bofa-refi-turns-into-foreclosure-nightmare/#comment-15907&quot;&gt;Doug&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Doug, thank you,  you wrote with brevity and clarity - inspiring some wonderings seeking more of your thoughts..

If I understand, agreed it works a &#039; transformation&#039; on the whole &#039;process&#039; and creates new &#039;content&#039;. 
Query:  whether prior agreements remain material seems a realy core issue.

So responses to any of the following or your own versions will be appreciated, and please rewrite my questions if they need it.

1. do new arrangements totally overwrite and obliterate prior ones?  and do consumers have a right to see the old and new  terms in writing? (the phone rep - CSR - we-don&#039;t-do-things-in-writing accountability issue).

2.  Appreciating what you posted, would we then  call it a (brand) new exclusive note so history &#038; its documentation doesnt matter, or becomes an alleged non-issue? Maybe that&#039;s the same question.

(Thinking ... it could seem kinda like whitewashing the worn-away barn, or on a smaller scale like liquid white-out on paper but here on history) or ...  taking down statutes in parks - the hard way)..  

But maybe whether its a &#039;subsitute contract&#039; in full and sole effect -  or prior contracts are still material - one guesses could be on a case by case basis (?).  Would need documentation .. and &#039;there&#039;s the rub&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2010/12/11/foreclosure-fraud-simple-bofa-refi-turns-into-foreclosure-nightmare/#comment-15907">Doug</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Doug, thank you,  you wrote with brevity and clarity &#8211; inspiring some wonderings seeking more of your thoughts..</p>
<p>If I understand, agreed it works a &#8216; transformation&#8217; on the whole &#8216;process&#8217; and creates new &#8216;content&#8217;.<br />
Query:  whether prior agreements remain material seems a realy core issue.</p>
<p>So responses to any of the following or your own versions will be appreciated, and please rewrite my questions if they need it.</p>
<p>1. do new arrangements totally overwrite and obliterate prior ones?  and do consumers have a right to see the old and new  terms in writing? (the phone rep &#8211; CSR &#8211; we-don&#8217;t-do-things-in-writing accountability issue).</p>
<p>2.  Appreciating what you posted, would we then  call it a (brand) new exclusive note so history &amp; its documentation doesnt matter, or becomes an alleged non-issue? Maybe that&#8217;s the same question.</p>
<p>(Thinking &#8230; it could seem kinda like whitewashing the worn-away barn, or on a smaller scale like liquid white-out on paper but here on history) or &#8230;  taking down statutes in parks &#8211; the hard way)..  </p>
<p>But maybe whether its a &#8216;subsitute contract&#8217; in full and sole effect &#8211;  or prior contracts are still material &#8211; one guesses could be on a case by case basis (?).  Would need documentation .. and &#8216;there&#8217;s the rub&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Doug		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 15:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would have to say this is the way the bank replaces the &quot;Note&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to say this is the way the bank replaces the &#8220;Note&#8221;</p>
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		By: internetasker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[internetasker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 14:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this forum and Yes it&#039;s like this and good for Ashford to speak up.

 It&#039;s happening big-time, as a recent and very sad senior citizen  widow I can attest that no or better-said little  respect is paid to mourning - like we&#039;re not people. As alluded to in the post above.. 

My late husband had sole borrower debts now being targeted to me, and he&#039;d been attempting one of those mortgage modification processes and it was strung out just as you and others report and he died in the midst.  I can attest that his sole creditors pounced rather than pausing. 

I would ask (wish) that there be investigation of loan officers from the git-go.  Will appreciate any feed back.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this forum and Yes it&#8217;s like this and good for Ashford to speak up.</p>
<p> It&#8217;s happening big-time, as a recent and very sad senior citizen  widow I can attest that no or better-said little  respect is paid to mourning &#8211; like we&#8217;re not people. As alluded to in the post above.. </p>
<p>My late husband had sole borrower debts now being targeted to me, and he&#8217;d been attempting one of those mortgage modification processes and it was strung out just as you and others report and he died in the midst.  I can attest that his sole creditors pounced rather than pausing. </p>
<p>I would ask (wish) that there be investigation of loan officers from the git-go.  Will appreciate any feed back.</p>
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