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	Comments on: More &#8220;Deadbeats&#8221; &#124; Church Foreclosures Surge, Seen as &#8216;Next Wave&#8217; in Crisis	</title>
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		By: Mark Brooks		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/01/26/more-deadbeats-church-foreclosures-surge-seen-as-next-wave-in-crisis/#comment-18935</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Brooks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jan 2011 16:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This article has spread like wild fire on the internet and Twitter. Fox News jumped in yesterday with their own version of it. I was contacted by the WSJ reporter before they ran their story and gave her a lot of facts that were ignored or left out of the article. I have posted extensively on them.

The article in short overstates the problem. 0.000597% is the number of all US congregations facing foreclosure! Hardly a surge. The article also oversimplifies the issue. The implication is that the economy, unemployment and thus a decline in giving is the issue. However the facts as reported by groups like Giving USA showed that giving to religion ONLY declined by 0.01% in 2009. Churches have historically weathered recessions before and will again. In many of the instances of foreclosure there is more to meet the eye than simply a decline in giving.

I am amazed at how we are responding not upon facts but a few stories. One church in foreclosure is bad but we are not at the point of a surge or crisis. We need to get our facts straight and not respond to knee jerk media articles. Simply because a church in California or Georgia is struggling does not mean your church will struggle too.

At the end of the day churches will find that if you have a compelling vision, good vision trumps bad economy.

For another perspective read http://TheCharisGroup.org/blog]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article has spread like wild fire on the internet and Twitter. Fox News jumped in yesterday with their own version of it. I was contacted by the WSJ reporter before they ran their story and gave her a lot of facts that were ignored or left out of the article. I have posted extensively on them.</p>
<p>The article in short overstates the problem. 0.000597% is the number of all US congregations facing foreclosure! Hardly a surge. The article also oversimplifies the issue. The implication is that the economy, unemployment and thus a decline in giving is the issue. However the facts as reported by groups like Giving USA showed that giving to religion ONLY declined by 0.01% in 2009. Churches have historically weathered recessions before and will again. In many of the instances of foreclosure there is more to meet the eye than simply a decline in giving.</p>
<p>I am amazed at how we are responding not upon facts but a few stories. One church in foreclosure is bad but we are not at the point of a surge or crisis. We need to get our facts straight and not respond to knee jerk media articles. Simply because a church in California or Georgia is struggling does not mean your church will struggle too.</p>
<p>At the end of the day churches will find that if you have a compelling vision, good vision trumps bad economy.</p>
<p>For another perspective read <a href="http://TheCharisGroup.org/blog" rel="nofollow ugc">http://TheCharisGroup.org/blog</a></p>
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		By: Officer of the Law		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/01/26/more-deadbeats-church-foreclosures-surge-seen-as-next-wave-in-crisis/#comment-18758</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Officer of the Law]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps, the churches will start helping demand that our rights are respected once again instead of just preaching that the law is the law even when it&#039;s not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps, the churches will start helping demand that our rights are respected once again instead of just preaching that the law is the law even when it&#8217;s not.</p>
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		By: Marilyn Abdilla		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/01/26/more-deadbeats-church-foreclosures-surge-seen-as-next-wave-in-crisis/#comment-18724</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marilyn Abdilla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 06:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/01/26/more-deadbeats-church-foreclosures-surge-seen-as-next-wave-in-crisis/#comment-18661&quot;&gt;housemanrob&lt;/a&gt;.

Is there something more sinister going on here?  HMMM  Maybe owning all the land?  Remember the banks are working with money from air...no back-up...a flat peice of paper.  But  with greed and fraud  they want the land titles..to own the land.  And to have people homeless with no means to earn a living. Comments have given clues and clues are on the internet.   Foreclosures  have been proven with fraud, yet no indictments and nothing done by the government to cease the fraud, and  the government  also refused to halt or stop foreclosures once the massive fraud shit hit the fan.  Banks run the government, this anyone can see. So is something more sinister?  Dig deeper and search, read all articles and grasp the key words..go on YouTube....we were taken over by the banks even with fraud and they are not our government..yet they made their own laws.....disregarding   the laws of the land. So what powers do they carry...or is another entity  that has definite existense lurking in the shadows?  WAKE UP AMERICA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/01/26/more-deadbeats-church-foreclosures-surge-seen-as-next-wave-in-crisis/#comment-18661">housemanrob</a>.</p>
<p>Is there something more sinister going on here?  HMMM  Maybe owning all the land?  Remember the banks are working with money from air&#8230;no back-up&#8230;a flat peice of paper.  But  with greed and fraud  they want the land titles..to own the land.  And to have people homeless with no means to earn a living. Comments have given clues and clues are on the internet.   Foreclosures  have been proven with fraud, yet no indictments and nothing done by the government to cease the fraud, and  the government  also refused to halt or stop foreclosures once the massive fraud shit hit the fan.  Banks run the government, this anyone can see. So is something more sinister?  Dig deeper and search, read all articles and grasp the key words..go on YouTube&#8230;.we were taken over by the banks even with fraud and they are not our government..yet they made their own laws&#8230;..disregarding   the laws of the land. So what powers do they carry&#8230;or is another entity  that has definite existense lurking in the shadows?  WAKE UP AMERICA</p>
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		By: l vent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/01/26/more-deadbeats-church-foreclosures-surge-seen-as-next-wave-in-crisis/#comment-18669</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[l vent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 17:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This looks like this is coming to  the final culmination of good vs. evil.  They want to destroy anything good that is left in the world and they want to own everything and everyone with fake debt  or STEAL THINGS THEY DO NOT OWN.  They are all a bunch of Fourth Reich Nazi Luciferians. Brad Meltzer&#039;s Decoded is doing a show on Thursday night on the History Channel about these very Secret Societies who are destroying the world with their evil plans using deceit in order to control.  J.F.K also spoke about these Luciferians. We all need to do our homework. The truth is everywhere. We need to declare our National Sovereignty from these people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This looks like this is coming to  the final culmination of good vs. evil.  They want to destroy anything good that is left in the world and they want to own everything and everyone with fake debt  or STEAL THINGS THEY DO NOT OWN.  They are all a bunch of Fourth Reich Nazi Luciferians. Brad Meltzer&#8217;s Decoded is doing a show on Thursday night on the History Channel about these very Secret Societies who are destroying the world with their evil plans using deceit in order to control.  J.F.K also spoke about these Luciferians. We all need to do our homework. The truth is everywhere. We need to declare our National Sovereignty from these people.</p>
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		By: housemanrob		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/01/26/more-deadbeats-church-foreclosures-surge-seen-as-next-wave-in-crisis/#comment-18662</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[housemanrob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another thing. What are you gonna do with a forclosed......empty church? What a sacrilage!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing. What are you gonna do with a forclosed&#8230;&#8230;empty church? What a sacrilage!</p>
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		By: housemanrob		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/01/26/more-deadbeats-church-foreclosures-surge-seen-as-next-wave-in-crisis/#comment-18661</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[housemanrob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An absolute zoo of foreclosers. But whats with all the blatant disrespect for human rights in our own middle class? Is there something even more sinister going on here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An absolute zoo of foreclosers. But whats with all the blatant disrespect for human rights in our own middle class? Is there something even more sinister going on here?</p>
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		By: Hope...		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/01/26/more-deadbeats-church-foreclosures-surge-seen-as-next-wave-in-crisis/#comment-18660</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hope...]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is nothing sacred??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is nothing sacred??</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That is sad.

 No matter how much you want to pay, if nothing is coming in, nothing can go out.

 All businesses depend on something coming in. None are safe.

 Starting up rebuilding and repairing our infrastructure is the answer. Does something that must be done for us all and pups money in pockets for us all to spend and in this case give.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is sad.</p>
<p> No matter how much you want to pay, if nothing is coming in, nothing can go out.</p>
<p> All businesses depend on something coming in. None are safe.</p>
<p> Starting up rebuilding and repairing our infrastructure is the answer. Does something that must be done for us all and pups money in pockets for us all to spend and in this case give.</p>
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