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		By: Master David Goodmen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Master David Goodmen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 22:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/02/24/bloomberg-arizona-bill-sb1259-would-void-foreclosures-without-full-title-history/#comment-22182&quot;&gt;Patriot Alice&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry, that is wrong.

The banks are trying to take people&#039;s houses.  It is, therefore, up to THEM to prove their actions are in accordance with the law.  
What they do is almost always NOT by the law.  They have been getting away with that for a very long time.  They have used their money---&lt;b&gt;OUR money!&lt;/b&gt;---to pay government people, and court-of-law people, mostly judges, to tell lies for them.  

You are correct, in that the banksters operate on the &quot;Communist&quot; principle that &quot;What is yours is &lt;b&gt;mine!&lt;/b&gt;&quot;  

The &lt;i&gt;communist&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;Communist&lt;/i&gt; systems of government are irrelevant to these discussions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/02/24/bloomberg-arizona-bill-sb1259-would-void-foreclosures-without-full-title-history/#comment-22182">Patriot Alice</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry, that is wrong.</p>
<p>The banks are trying to take people&#8217;s houses.  It is, therefore, up to THEM to prove their actions are in accordance with the law.<br />
What they do is almost always NOT by the law.  They have been getting away with that for a very long time.  They have used their money&#8212;<b>OUR money!</b>&#8212;to pay government people, and court-of-law people, mostly judges, to tell lies for them.  </p>
<p>You are correct, in that the banksters operate on the &#8220;Communist&#8221; principle that &#8220;What is yours is <b>mine!</b>&#8221;  </p>
<p>The <i>communist</i> or <i>Communist</i> systems of government are irrelevant to these discussions.</p>
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		By: Patriot Alice		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patriot Alice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 20:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The buyer should also prove that they have fully paid for the property, before they can make any claim of ownership.  I remember in Italy, years ago, the Communist used to threaten that as soon as they voted themselves into office, they&#039;d take my family&#039;s property away! Some of you people are on the verge of thinking the same way. You are hoping for some way, that you can get the property for free! YOU MUST PROVE THAT YOU HAVE PAID FOR IT FIRST, IF NOT, GO TO HELL!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The buyer should also prove that they have fully paid for the property, before they can make any claim of ownership.  I remember in Italy, years ago, the Communist used to threaten that as soon as they voted themselves into office, they&#8217;d take my family&#8217;s property away! Some of you people are on the verge of thinking the same way. You are hoping for some way, that you can get the property for free! YOU MUST PROVE THAT YOU HAVE PAID FOR IT FIRST, IF NOT, GO TO HELL!</p>
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		By: judge		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[judge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 03:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with all you guys!!!!!!   This is a good law and it is repeating what is already on the books but being ignored by the judges !  GOD BLESS  ARIZONA !!!!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all you guys!!!!!!   This is a good law and it is repeating what is already on the books but being ignored by the judges !  GOD BLESS  ARIZONA !!!!!!!!</p>
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		By: Master David Goodmen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Master David Goodmen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Q:  What kind of business pisses off a Republican?  
A:  A terminally mis-managed business, is the kind!  
&quot;&lt;i&gt;The Republican lawmaker is in litigation with her &lt;b&gt;mortgage servicer&lt;/b&gt;, which she said &lt;b&gt;won’t identify the owner of the loan.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&quot;  Apparently, she is expected to send money to people who SAY they own her load, but who refuse to show the proof!  
Sounds like a con game, to Me.  If they had proof, then they would be sending copies everywhere, &quot;Ya ya!  We told ya!&quot;  Silence=zero proof available.  

Said Paul Hickman, chief executive officer of the Arizona Bankers Association in Phoenix, “&lt;i&gt;States that pass these types of laws will be riskier environments to lend in and more difficult environments to get a loan in.&lt;/i&gt;”  OK, Mr. Hickman, you excuse My engineering mentality, and I will ignore your execrable grammar!  
My point is this:  How, exactly, is it risky to do business with people who know you are the legitimate person to receive the money?  
If I take out a loan with &quot;ABC Mortgage of Phoenix&quot;, pay them, for a few years, then suddenly My house is being foreclosed upon, by &quot;Shady-Night Mortgage Fixers, Inc.&quot;, and am offered zero proof of anything:  Why should I believe them? 
Perhaps your name is &quot;Hick Man&quot;, and you understand nothing of business!

Here is the deal, Mister Hickman, same as with teabaggers:  “&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Prove it or shove it!!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q:  What kind of business pisses off a Republican?<br />
A:  A terminally mis-managed business, is the kind!<br />
&#8220;<i>The Republican lawmaker is in litigation with her <b>mortgage servicer</b>, which she said <b>won’t identify the owner of the loan.</b></i>&#8221;  Apparently, she is expected to send money to people who SAY they own her load, but who refuse to show the proof!<br />
Sounds like a con game, to Me.  If they had proof, then they would be sending copies everywhere, &#8220;Ya ya!  We told ya!&#8221;  Silence=zero proof available.  </p>
<p>Said Paul Hickman, chief executive officer of the Arizona Bankers Association in Phoenix, “<i>States that pass these types of laws will be riskier environments to lend in and more difficult environments to get a loan in.</i>”  OK, Mr. Hickman, you excuse My engineering mentality, and I will ignore your execrable grammar!<br />
My point is this:  How, exactly, is it risky to do business with people who know you are the legitimate person to receive the money?<br />
If I take out a loan with &#8220;ABC Mortgage of Phoenix&#8221;, pay them, for a few years, then suddenly My house is being foreclosed upon, by &#8220;Shady-Night Mortgage Fixers, Inc.&#8221;, and am offered zero proof of anything:  Why should I believe them?<br />
Perhaps your name is &#8220;Hick Man&#8221;, and you understand nothing of business!</p>
<p>Here is the deal, Mister Hickman, same as with teabaggers:  “<i><b>Prove it or shove it!!</b></i>”</p>
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		By: PJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What? hope this person sees  how stupid he sounds in this statement. Its better to business in a state where the titles are clouded and anyone down the road can come along and claim ownership... Really!

“If Arizona passes this, it will be the only state in the union that will require a production of chain of title,” said Paul Hickman, chief executive officer of the Arizona Bankers Association in Phoenix. “States that pass these types of laws will be riskier environments to lend in and more difficult environments to get a loan in.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What? hope this person sees  how stupid he sounds in this statement. Its better to business in a state where the titles are clouded and anyone down the road can come along and claim ownership&#8230; Really!</p>
<p>“If Arizona passes this, it will be the only state in the union that will require a production of chain of title,” said Paul Hickman, chief executive officer of the Arizona Bankers Association in Phoenix. “States that pass these types of laws will be riskier environments to lend in and more difficult environments to get a loan in.”</p>
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		By: l vent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[l vent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[YES!!!!!!  Not only is this THE LAW it needs to be enforced nation wide. There should not have ever been a need for a special bill to be passed when these laws are ALREADY ON THE BOOKS.  If the judges were following the rule of the law from the start which they clearly did not, this mess would have never happend. CNBC just had some jerk on from Wells Fargo talking about how they are giving people loan mods now with principal reductions.  A DAY LATE AND A DOLLAR SHORT. Diana Olick was also speaking about the Government is going to be FORCING THE BANKS in a couple of months to do principal writedowns and loan mods. Again, A DAY LATE AND A DOLLAR SHORT. Before anyone signs a loan mod agreement the banks should be made to PROVE FULL TITLE HISTORY. We pay more than enough money to live in these UNDERWATER HOMES in HYPER-INFLATED PROPERTY TAXES, HYPER-INFLATED UTILITY BILLS, HYPER-INFLATED FOOD AND SERVICES AND SO ON. The government should consider themselves VERY LUCKY if WE ALL DO NOT WALK AWAY and leave them HOLDING THE BAG. The Government is REALLY PUSHING IT with the American people if they think for one minute we are going to accept a NEW FRAUDULENTLY INDUCED DEBT BURDEN LOAN MODIFICATION. The American people have HAD ENOUGH of  the LIES and the Banksters and the Government can take a loan mod and SHOVE IT .  The American people have been robbed, financially raped and pillaged by the elite and WE WILL NOT PAY A FAKE, FRAUDULENTLY INDUCED MORTGAGE DEBT TO COVER UP FOR THE  CRIMES OF THE ELITE..  YOU HAVE BROKEN THE BACKS OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WITH YOUR FINANCIAL TERRORISM.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES!!!!!!  Not only is this THE LAW it needs to be enforced nation wide. There should not have ever been a need for a special bill to be passed when these laws are ALREADY ON THE BOOKS.  If the judges were following the rule of the law from the start which they clearly did not, this mess would have never happend. CNBC just had some jerk on from Wells Fargo talking about how they are giving people loan mods now with principal reductions.  A DAY LATE AND A DOLLAR SHORT. Diana Olick was also speaking about the Government is going to be FORCING THE BANKS in a couple of months to do principal writedowns and loan mods. Again, A DAY LATE AND A DOLLAR SHORT. Before anyone signs a loan mod agreement the banks should be made to PROVE FULL TITLE HISTORY. We pay more than enough money to live in these UNDERWATER HOMES in HYPER-INFLATED PROPERTY TAXES, HYPER-INFLATED UTILITY BILLS, HYPER-INFLATED FOOD AND SERVICES AND SO ON. The government should consider themselves VERY LUCKY if WE ALL DO NOT WALK AWAY and leave them HOLDING THE BAG. The Government is REALLY PUSHING IT with the American people if they think for one minute we are going to accept a NEW FRAUDULENTLY INDUCED DEBT BURDEN LOAN MODIFICATION. The American people have HAD ENOUGH of  the LIES and the Banksters and the Government can take a loan mod and SHOVE IT .  The American people have been robbed, financially raped and pillaged by the elite and WE WILL NOT PAY A FAKE, FRAUDULENTLY INDUCED MORTGAGE DEBT TO COVER UP FOR THE  CRIMES OF THE ELITE..  YOU HAVE BROKEN THE BACKS OF MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WITH YOUR FINANCIAL TERRORISM.</p>
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