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		By: acmodspecialists		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Tim Bryant		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 01:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/03/18/missouri-attorney-generals-consumer-protection-division-we-found-a-good-deal-of-fraud-in-the-process-in-the-foreclosure-process-itself-but-no-one-to-prosecute/#comment-24834&quot;&gt;Master David Goodmen&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with you, except for 2. Why should an investor be made whole? That is like saying anyone who loses money at a casino should be made whole. Investors have interfered with many homeowners trying to get modifications. They are actors in this scandal as well as all the parties you mention in 3. I have absolutely no pity for investors. Bottom line....mortgages should not be commodities traded on the market. It is a contract between a borrower and lender...period!

I also do not understand your &quot;3-z&quot;. I receive a military pension due to disability. I get this because I fought to allow A-holes to make such stupid statements, and my opportunity to respond. That is a real idiotic and ignorant statement. If one of the people in category 3 put their life on the line for us, this should never be taken away. Let them face the rule of law for acts that they have done. Whether we like it or not, if they get Veteran&#039;s benefits, they deserve to keep them.

I am one of the most active voices against these fraudsters. There is a line to be drawn at some point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/03/18/missouri-attorney-generals-consumer-protection-division-we-found-a-good-deal-of-fraud-in-the-process-in-the-foreclosure-process-itself-but-no-one-to-prosecute/#comment-24834">Master David Goodmen</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with you, except for 2. Why should an investor be made whole? That is like saying anyone who loses money at a casino should be made whole. Investors have interfered with many homeowners trying to get modifications. They are actors in this scandal as well as all the parties you mention in 3. I have absolutely no pity for investors. Bottom line&#8230;.mortgages should not be commodities traded on the market. It is a contract between a borrower and lender&#8230;period!</p>
<p>I also do not understand your &#8220;3-z&#8221;. I receive a military pension due to disability. I get this because I fought to allow A-holes to make such stupid statements, and my opportunity to respond. That is a real idiotic and ignorant statement. If one of the people in category 3 put their life on the line for us, this should never be taken away. Let them face the rule of law for acts that they have done. Whether we like it or not, if they get Veteran&#8217;s benefits, they deserve to keep them.</p>
<p>I am one of the most active voices against these fraudsters. There is a line to be drawn at some point.</p>
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		By: Pamela		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 21:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i vote for you Master David Goodman when do you run for office?truly do you how good the people would feel if this could be pulled  off.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i vote for you Master David Goodman when do you run for office?truly do you how good the people would feel if this could be pulled  off.</p>
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		By: Master David Goodmen		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/03/18/missouri-attorney-generals-consumer-protection-division-we-found-a-good-deal-of-fraud-in-the-process-in-the-foreclosure-process-itself-but-no-one-to-prosecute/#comment-24834</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 19:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Meanwhile, the original paperwork is in a warehouse somewhere, and no one knows where it is.&lt;/i&gt;

1) All houses missing their paperwork now belong to the families living in them, or the family last residing there.  
1-a) New deeds created and recorded.
1-b) All payments made by home-buyers are paid back to said buyers.  The banks&#039; titles were fraudulent, they were owed nothing.  The money is not theirs.  

2) Every investor made whole.  
2-a) If a mortgage has been sold to three investors, than the seller pays every one of those three investors.  You sold it, you buy it back!  

3) Hard time.
3-a) Robo-signing means you do hard time.
3-b) Lying to borrowers means you do hard time.
3-c) Telling employees to lie means you do the biggest hard time.  
3-d) Lawyers involved do hard time, and are disbarred for life.  
3-e) Judges who ruled for fraudulent law suits do hard time, and are disbarred.  
3-f.) Politicians who collaborated do hard time, are disbarred, and cannot hold any office.  
3-g) Anyone else involved, i.e. real estate agents, appraisers, et cetera, do hard time, too.  

3-z) No one from category three can receive any welfare, disability, or other such benefits.  

&lt;b&gt;All fixed!&lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Meanwhile, the original paperwork is in a warehouse somewhere, and no one knows where it is.</i></p>
<p>1) All houses missing their paperwork now belong to the families living in them, or the family last residing there.<br />
1-a) New deeds created and recorded.<br />
1-b) All payments made by home-buyers are paid back to said buyers.  The banks&#8217; titles were fraudulent, they were owed nothing.  The money is not theirs.  </p>
<p>2) Every investor made whole.<br />
2-a) If a mortgage has been sold to three investors, than the seller pays every one of those three investors.  You sold it, you buy it back!  </p>
<p>3) Hard time.<br />
3-a) Robo-signing means you do hard time.<br />
3-b) Lying to borrowers means you do hard time.<br />
3-c) Telling employees to lie means you do the biggest hard time.<br />
3-d) Lawyers involved do hard time, and are disbarred for life.<br />
3-e) Judges who ruled for fraudulent law suits do hard time, and are disbarred.<br />
3-f.) Politicians who collaborated do hard time, are disbarred, and cannot hold any office.<br />
3-g) Anyone else involved, i.e. real estate agents, appraisers, et cetera, do hard time, too.  </p>
<p>3-z) No one from category three can receive any welfare, disability, or other such benefits.  </p>
<p><b>All fixed!</b></p>
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		By: Joker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 05:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/18/real_estate/florida_vacant_homes/index.htm
Now, we know which county in Florida has most idiot judges]]></description>
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		By: Marilyn Abdilla		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/03/18/missouri-attorney-generals-consumer-protection-division-we-found-a-good-deal-of-fraud-in-the-process-in-the-foreclosure-process-itself-but-no-one-to-prosecute/#comment-24748</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marilyn Abdilla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 04:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/03/18/missouri-attorney-generals-consumer-protection-division-we-found-a-good-deal-of-fraud-in-the-process-in-the-foreclosure-process-itself-but-no-one-to-prosecute/#comment-24647&quot;&gt;losing my home in florida&lt;/a&gt;.

Losing my home...Have you tried Legal Aid for an attorney...or at least get some info to help you?  Everyone is in the same &#039; boat &#039; trying to stay afloat.  If you are not well informed as to what to look for in your mortgage...(fraud)   only an attorney can help you, one who understands the fraud and &#039; gets it &#039;.  We can&#039;t give legal advice, just advice to direct you to someone who can help...so call your Legal Aid office near you and set up an appointment.   Do it now...today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/03/18/missouri-attorney-generals-consumer-protection-division-we-found-a-good-deal-of-fraud-in-the-process-in-the-foreclosure-process-itself-but-no-one-to-prosecute/#comment-24647">losing my home in florida</a>.</p>
<p>Losing my home&#8230;Have you tried Legal Aid for an attorney&#8230;or at least get some info to help you?  Everyone is in the same &#8216; boat &#8216; trying to stay afloat.  If you are not well informed as to what to look for in your mortgage&#8230;(fraud)   only an attorney can help you, one who understands the fraud and &#8216; gets it &#8216;.  We can&#8217;t give legal advice, just advice to direct you to someone who can help&#8230;so call your Legal Aid office near you and set up an appointment.   Do it now&#8230;today.</p>
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		By: Marilyn Abdilla		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/03/18/missouri-attorney-generals-consumer-protection-division-we-found-a-good-deal-of-fraud-in-the-process-in-the-foreclosure-process-itself-but-no-one-to-prosecute/#comment-24743</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 04:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/03/18/missouri-attorney-generals-consumer-protection-division-we-found-a-good-deal-of-fraud-in-the-process-in-the-foreclosure-process-itself-but-no-one-to-prosecute/#comment-24701&quot;&gt;Tim Bryant&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Tim...I went on that site...I hope others also pay it a visit...I clicked on Dylan...and my blood is rushing.  Greenspan...that frig&#039;n old liar...1987 - 2006 running the federal reserve......And he saw nothing wrong during that time... to old to even understand what he ate for dinner.  The best way to catch a crook is to think like a crook.....and we have found a mass of them......check out the BIS Bank  in Basel, Switzerland.  ..it is not a bank as in banking......but elite from around the world  are members of this &#039; club &#039;.... its a home away from home for the elite that have money hidden  in those  &#039;walls &#039;.  They meet 10 months of the year...on monthly basis....2 months skipped....a very secretive place.  Anything that secretive can be up to no good....as our own government seems to be on the same track running to the evil land.  Who can we trust?  NO ONE.  Think back...first we have mandated vaccines, an overdose of them given, with results of millions of babies and children harmed or died... vaccine court controlled by the Federal Government, Justice Dept. and the Health Dept.  all saying NO LINK....but showing no proof  with research documents as proof....  While this is flying high,  9/11  a horrible act of crime.  The government was warned of this but did nothing.  How convenient,  President Bush sitting in a classroom with little kids reading a book in Sarasota,  FL... Blaming others for this act of crime... than why did this government  pay off millions to each family ? The two fake wars...costing hundreds of thousand lives....and while all this was happening...the banksters were busy in their pent house counting the days when the bubble would burst and the fraud foreclosures would start to do the damage to America and the World....they had sold the Notes over and over to gain  the fraud money, screwing anyone and everyone who got in their way..  Tell me the government is not in on this from years back....knowing what this &#039; secret society &#039;, the New World Order was planning,  that too would be a damn lie.  I was told to go back 5 presidents who knew of the plans.
To many tragedies in so short of time makes one wonder if the rush to destroy the people and countries all over the world...especially to be hated that bad to destroy America......where has our government been?  Busy  giving more money to the criminals who have already made trillions with their crimes of fraud.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/03/18/missouri-attorney-generals-consumer-protection-division-we-found-a-good-deal-of-fraud-in-the-process-in-the-foreclosure-process-itself-but-no-one-to-prosecute/#comment-24701">Tim Bryant</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Tim&#8230;I went on that site&#8230;I hope others also pay it a visit&#8230;I clicked on Dylan&#8230;and my blood is rushing.  Greenspan&#8230;that frig&#8217;n old liar&#8230;1987 &#8211; 2006 running the federal reserve&#8230;&#8230;And he saw nothing wrong during that time&#8230; to old to even understand what he ate for dinner.  The best way to catch a crook is to think like a crook&#8230;..and we have found a mass of them&#8230;&#8230;check out the BIS Bank  in Basel, Switzerland.  ..it is not a bank as in banking&#8230;&#8230;but elite from around the world  are members of this &#8216; club &#8216;&#8230;. its a home away from home for the elite that have money hidden  in those  &#8216;walls &#8216;.  They meet 10 months of the year&#8230;on monthly basis&#8230;.2 months skipped&#8230;.a very secretive place.  Anything that secretive can be up to no good&#8230;.as our own government seems to be on the same track running to the evil land.  Who can we trust?  NO ONE.  Think back&#8230;first we have mandated vaccines, an overdose of them given, with results of millions of babies and children harmed or died&#8230; vaccine court controlled by the Federal Government, Justice Dept. and the Health Dept.  all saying NO LINK&#8230;.but showing no proof  with research documents as proof&#8230;.  While this is flying high,  9/11  a horrible act of crime.  The government was warned of this but did nothing.  How convenient,  President Bush sitting in a classroom with little kids reading a book in Sarasota,  FL&#8230; Blaming others for this act of crime&#8230; than why did this government  pay off millions to each family ? The two fake wars&#8230;costing hundreds of thousand lives&#8230;.and while all this was happening&#8230;the banksters were busy in their pent house counting the days when the bubble would burst and the fraud foreclosures would start to do the damage to America and the World&#8230;.they had sold the Notes over and over to gain  the fraud money, screwing anyone and everyone who got in their way..  Tell me the government is not in on this from years back&#8230;.knowing what this &#8216; secret society &#8216;, the New World Order was planning,  that too would be a damn lie.  I was told to go back 5 presidents who knew of the plans.<br />
To many tragedies in so short of time makes one wonder if the rush to destroy the people and countries all over the world&#8230;especially to be hated that bad to destroy America&#8230;&#8230;where has our government been?  Busy  giving more money to the criminals who have already made trillions with their crimes of fraud.</p>
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		By: a p giannini		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Michael williams g , new century financial corp  , fraud is up too . I&#039;m a have to start the ,new century, stagecoach financial incorp , to make up for all of this .fraud .  I ow the public for this mess , but u learn as u go tho . I learned a lot from this .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael williams g , new century financial corp  , fraud is up too . I&#8217;m a have to start the ,new century, stagecoach financial incorp , to make up for all of this .fraud .  I ow the public for this mess , but u learn as u go tho . I learned a lot from this .</p>
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		By: Tim Bryant		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/03/18/missouri-attorney-generals-consumer-protection-division-we-found-a-good-deal-of-fraud-in-the-process-in-the-foreclosure-process-itself-but-no-one-to-prosecute/#comment-24686&quot;&gt;Marilyn Abdilla&lt;/a&gt;.

Marilyn,

You may be interested in this.

http://ampedstatus.org/network/groups/the-revolution-will-not-be-televised/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/03/18/missouri-attorney-generals-consumer-protection-division-we-found-a-good-deal-of-fraud-in-the-process-in-the-foreclosure-process-itself-but-no-one-to-prosecute/#comment-24686">Marilyn Abdilla</a>.</p>
<p>Marilyn,</p>
<p>You may be interested in this.</p>
<p><a href="http://ampedstatus.org/network/groups/the-revolution-will-not-be-televised/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ampedstatus.org/network/groups/the-revolution-will-not-be-televised/</a></p>
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		By: Tim Bryant		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The fact that he used the specific term &quot;fraud&quot; makes any settlement a nullity. It also shows that if the AGs enter into a settlement agreement, they are themselves, committing a crime. 

The AG is being disingenuious about his &quot;no one to prosecute&quot; statement. Having worked in federal law enforcement, there is always someone to charge in these cases. You indict the &quot;little guy&quot;, and have them cop a plea in exchange for information to prosecute the &quot;bigger fish&quot;. This is a bogus excuse to not prosecute. 

If they cannot handle these types of cases, they should be referred to DOJ (who should be doing this in the first place). The RICO laws allow you to indict organizations and groups. You do not have to charge individuals. That is how they prosecuted La Cosa Nostra and the Hells Angels. 

Either the AGs are corrupt or incompetent. Whichever the case may be, if you can&#039;t, or don&#039;t want to do your jobs, resign. Let a professional handle these cases.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that he used the specific term &#8220;fraud&#8221; makes any settlement a nullity. It also shows that if the AGs enter into a settlement agreement, they are themselves, committing a crime. </p>
<p>The AG is being disingenuious about his &#8220;no one to prosecute&#8221; statement. Having worked in federal law enforcement, there is always someone to charge in these cases. You indict the &#8220;little guy&#8221;, and have them cop a plea in exchange for information to prosecute the &#8220;bigger fish&#8221;. This is a bogus excuse to not prosecute. </p>
<p>If they cannot handle these types of cases, they should be referred to DOJ (who should be doing this in the first place). The RICO laws allow you to indict organizations and groups. You do not have to charge individuals. That is how they prosecuted La Cosa Nostra and the Hells Angels. </p>
<p>Either the AGs are corrupt or incompetent. Whichever the case may be, if you can&#8217;t, or don&#8217;t want to do your jobs, resign. Let a professional handle these cases.</p>
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