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		By: one sound		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 04:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Christ Jesus said the people suffer because of the lack of knowledge !!
You all think you are free and what do any of you know about freedom?
You all think you are paying your debt but what do not know is that you are wrong!!
You are passing around debt with the paper that you use and there is a usury tax on that paper the rate at 100% !  you pay it the federal reserve  when you pay income tax !
Have you ever heard of the term pass the buck?
Where do you think that came from ?  passing the debt it is like a revolving door it never stops.
It was designed that way  because the banksters new you were all a bunch of num skulls for lack of a better term  you are asleep and they know it  because they are the ones who put you asleep  
Look at you all none of you are creating solutions  you are just hear bitching  about what oyu think you do . 
You don’t even know what you do Jesus Christ also said !
Forgive them my father for they no not what they do  
You do not even try to organize yourselves 
Are you ready for the buck to stop right here you can do it  if you were not afraid of your masters 
Did not Jesus also say no man can serve two masters and give unto see-zar what is see zar’s   
Do you possess/own or are you possessed /owned 
Get rid of your fear dear ones,,,,,,,, remember the pen is mightier than the sword 
Do not call them write to them and start asking question and making claims  jump on the wave while it here we are winning  and stay out of court you do not belong there  that is see-zar’s court  he will hang you every time !!!

Get a PO BOX  open an LLC and use it as your trustee  and give it the house  and you act as the manager take the burden off of yourself  and whatever you do not leave your home  what is 9/10ths of the law 
You also have the only original documentation form the date that you signed for the home 
Heck the plaintiff can not even prove they have a client and they have the burden of proof 
Demand from them the original note   I guarantee they do not  have it 
And get on the internet and start studying  enough  said  oh did you all know that it only takes 25 people to through the case out and overrule the judge 

 
Try to do somethig instead of complain get constructive or did teh school not teach you anything    

college 97% failer rate are you one of those ? just trying to wake you all up rip von winkle !@!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christ Jesus said the people suffer because of the lack of knowledge !!<br />
You all think you are free and what do any of you know about freedom?<br />
You all think you are paying your debt but what do not know is that you are wrong!!<br />
You are passing around debt with the paper that you use and there is a usury tax on that paper the rate at 100% !  you pay it the federal reserve  when you pay income tax !<br />
Have you ever heard of the term pass the buck?<br />
Where do you think that came from ?  passing the debt it is like a revolving door it never stops.<br />
It was designed that way  because the banksters new you were all a bunch of num skulls for lack of a better term  you are asleep and they know it  because they are the ones who put you asleep<br />
Look at you all none of you are creating solutions  you are just hear bitching  about what oyu think you do .<br />
You don’t even know what you do Jesus Christ also said !<br />
Forgive them my father for they no not what they do<br />
You do not even try to organize yourselves<br />
Are you ready for the buck to stop right here you can do it  if you were not afraid of your masters<br />
Did not Jesus also say no man can serve two masters and give unto see-zar what is see zar’s<br />
Do you possess/own or are you possessed /owned<br />
Get rid of your fear dear ones,,,,,,,, remember the pen is mightier than the sword<br />
Do not call them write to them and start asking question and making claims  jump on the wave while it here we are winning  and stay out of court you do not belong there  that is see-zar’s court  he will hang you every time !!!</p>
<p>Get a PO BOX  open an LLC and use it as your trustee  and give it the house  and you act as the manager take the burden off of yourself  and whatever you do not leave your home  what is 9/10ths of the law<br />
You also have the only original documentation form the date that you signed for the home<br />
Heck the plaintiff can not even prove they have a client and they have the burden of proof<br />
Demand from them the original note   I guarantee they do not  have it<br />
And get on the internet and start studying  enough  said  oh did you all know that it only takes 25 people to through the case out and overrule the judge </p>
<p>Try to do somethig instead of complain get constructive or did teh school not teach you anything    </p>
<p>college 97% failer rate are you one of those ? just trying to wake you all up rip von winkle !@!!!</p>
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		By: incognito123		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-29102</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 03:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-29077&quot;&gt;M.Payne&lt;/a&gt;.

Funny thing is, or not so funny actually, my neighbor is from Germany, although much too young to have been there in Nazi times (about 30) and he and I have talked about this exact issue, and he knows enough about his countries history to say and know what you are saying IS exactly what happened in his country, and he sees it happening in this country now.  Problem is, most in this country don&#039;t see it, and  when they wake up and see it, it will be too late and it will then take a violent revolution to correct.  I hope I am not around for that, but fear it is right around the corner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-29077">M.Payne</a>.</p>
<p>Funny thing is, or not so funny actually, my neighbor is from Germany, although much too young to have been there in Nazi times (about 30) and he and I have talked about this exact issue, and he knows enough about his countries history to say and know what you are saying IS exactly what happened in his country, and he sees it happening in this country now.  Problem is, most in this country don&#8217;t see it, and  when they wake up and see it, it will be too late and it will then take a violent revolution to correct.  I hope I am not around for that, but fear it is right around the corner.</p>
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		By: M.Payne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M.Payne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 20:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yes,  Our credit is ruined, my car is 18 yrs old and the emotional trauma of being treated like a person who does not pay their debts when it isn&#039;t their fault by the very entities that created this obscene, evil obstruction of the Constitution is enough to make a person sick.

This is a deliberate attempt to destroy the middle class.  It is common practise to &quot;get rid of&quot; educated people before a police state is created.  Anyone who knows their history will know this.  Anybody study Nazi Germany?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes,  Our credit is ruined, my car is 18 yrs old and the emotional trauma of being treated like a person who does not pay their debts when it isn&#8217;t their fault by the very entities that created this obscene, evil obstruction of the Constitution is enough to make a person sick.</p>
<p>This is a deliberate attempt to destroy the middle class.  It is common practise to &#8220;get rid of&#8221; educated people before a police state is created.  Anyone who knows their history will know this.  Anybody study Nazi Germany?</p>
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		By: Kevin		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-28437</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 14:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-28267&quot;&gt;Stupendous Man - Defender of Liberty - Foe of Tyranny&lt;/a&gt;.

Read Florida Bankers Affidavit to Supreme Court Fl. They are intentionally destroyed at closing and supposedly e file it which under UCC makes it null and void!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-28267">Stupendous Man &#8211; Defender of Liberty &#8211; Foe of Tyranny</a>.</p>
<p>Read Florida Bankers Affidavit to Supreme Court Fl. They are intentionally destroyed at closing and supposedly e file it which under UCC makes it null and void!</p>
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		By: housemanrob		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-28304</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[housemanrob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 16:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-28199&quot;&gt;l vent&lt;/a&gt;.

It is because this is not about law anymore. EVERYBODY knows it&#039;s all fraud. All of this, from Obama to all the A G&#039;s. All knowing! So let&#039;s face it. Our govt. officials are getting a piece of the action. The law will not save us! We must rise together!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-28199">l vent</a>.</p>
<p>It is because this is not about law anymore. EVERYBODY knows it&#8217;s all fraud. All of this, from Obama to all the A G&#8217;s. All knowing! So let&#8217;s face it. Our govt. officials are getting a piece of the action. The law will not save us! We must rise together!</p>
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		By: Stupendous Man - Defender of Liberty - Foe of Tyranny		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-28267</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stupendous Man - Defender of Liberty - Foe of Tyranny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-28232&quot;&gt;lisamarie&lt;/a&gt;.

Liasmarie, I have no problem with legitimate &quot;lost note&quot; claims. Fires, tornadoes, etc. There are legitimate reasons for the loss of instruments. Without question lost note claims have been abused, and severely. 

Mills frequently get away with providing nothing more than a perjured lost note affidavit that really isn&#039;t worth the paper it is written on. Proper objections must be raised such that plaintiff is required to provide proof pursuant to UCC 3-309, which states, in part:

(b)  A person seeking enforcement of an instrument  under subsection (a) must prove the terms of the instrument and the person&#039;s right to enforce the instrument. 

I have yet to see a case in which this proof has been provided. 

The full UCC 3-309 can be found at the following link:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/3/article3.htm#s3-309]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-28232">lisamarie</a>.</p>
<p>Liasmarie, I have no problem with legitimate &#8220;lost note&#8221; claims. Fires, tornadoes, etc. There are legitimate reasons for the loss of instruments. Without question lost note claims have been abused, and severely. </p>
<p>Mills frequently get away with providing nothing more than a perjured lost note affidavit that really isn&#8217;t worth the paper it is written on. Proper objections must be raised such that plaintiff is required to provide proof pursuant to UCC 3-309, which states, in part:</p>
<p>(b)  A person seeking enforcement of an instrument  under subsection (a) must prove the terms of the instrument and the person&#8217;s right to enforce the instrument. </p>
<p>I have yet to see a case in which this proof has been provided. </p>
<p>The full UCC 3-309 can be found at the following link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/3/article3.htm#s3-309" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.law.cornell.edu/ucc/3/article3.htm#s3-309</a></p>
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		By: FedUp		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-28264</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FedUp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The good ole boy&#039;s here in Georgia just don&#039;t get it and don&#039;t want to get it!  They are turning their backs on the people......AND THE TRUTH!!    HILLBILLY JUDGES AND CORNBREAD COURTS]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good ole boy&#8217;s here in Georgia just don&#8217;t get it and don&#8217;t want to get it!  They are turning their backs on the people&#8230;&#8230;AND THE TRUTH!!    HILLBILLY JUDGES AND CORNBREAD COURTS</p>
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		By: Nora		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-28255</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nora]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-28199&quot;&gt;l vent&lt;/a&gt;.

I like what you just said, you are so right, according to the law any fraud committed within the origination of the loan makes it void.  Judges know that, lawyers know that now many people know that, the problem we are facing is that the system does not want the banks to fail period; regardless of the crime they committed!  They are worried that if they give a homeowner their house free and clear then they&#039;d have to do it for everyone. Not only that, the judges lawyers and other affiliates have vested interest, (investments) at risk if home owners cannot or won&#039;t pay their mortgage they lose.  But someone has to pay for this mess, and like in a normal situation, who ever created this mess, they should pay for it, and let us move on with our lives and our jobs and make this country get back to work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-28199">l vent</a>.</p>
<p>I like what you just said, you are so right, according to the law any fraud committed within the origination of the loan makes it void.  Judges know that, lawyers know that now many people know that, the problem we are facing is that the system does not want the banks to fail period; regardless of the crime they committed!  They are worried that if they give a homeowner their house free and clear then they&#8217;d have to do it for everyone. Not only that, the judges lawyers and other affiliates have vested interest, (investments) at risk if home owners cannot or won&#8217;t pay their mortgage they lose.  But someone has to pay for this mess, and like in a normal situation, who ever created this mess, they should pay for it, and let us move on with our lives and our jobs and make this country get back to work.</p>
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		By: incognito123		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-28254</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-28201&quot;&gt;Larry&lt;/a&gt;.

While there are certainly few, there are some, but you  are right, mostly Sui Juris and Pro Se are the only ones doing true fighting - they have the most vested interest.  I actually had to shake an attorney&#039;s hand in court the other day, as she was the first one I saw attack another attorney for violating the Rules of Court, IN court, right in front of the judge, and while I was saying things like &quot;all right&quot; &quot;about time&quot; the guy next to me wondered what I was so happy and thrilled about, as he had no idea what was happening in front of him.  Sad, sheeples in this country need to wake up!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/18/mainstream-fighting-a-foreclosure-suit-hope-for-the-right-judge/#comment-28201">Larry</a>.</p>
<p>While there are certainly few, there are some, but you  are right, mostly Sui Juris and Pro Se are the only ones doing true fighting &#8211; they have the most vested interest.  I actually had to shake an attorney&#8217;s hand in court the other day, as she was the first one I saw attack another attorney for violating the Rules of Court, IN court, right in front of the judge, and while I was saying things like &#8220;all right&#8221; &#8220;about time&#8221; the guy next to me wondered what I was so happy and thrilled about, as he had no idea what was happening in front of him.  Sad, sheeples in this country need to wake up!!</p>
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		By: Joe La Costa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe La Costa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2011 11:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am an attorney in California and am seeing the same thing.
The judges are granting the injunction to stop the foreclosure but are requiring &quot;rent&quot; be paid to the lender&#039;s attorneys trust accounts. Interesting thing is these monthly checks are being cashed by the other attorney in only half the cases as certain banks don&#039;t want to be accepting further payments. If you have a problem in California my contact info is joelacostaesq@gmail.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an attorney in California and am seeing the same thing.<br />
The judges are granting the injunction to stop the foreclosure but are requiring &#8220;rent&#8221; be paid to the lender&#8217;s attorneys trust accounts. Interesting thing is these monthly checks are being cashed by the other attorney in only half the cases as certain banks don&#8217;t want to be accepting further payments. If you have a problem in California my contact info is <a href="mailto:joelacostaesq@gmail.com">joelacostaesq@gmail.com</a></p>
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