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		By: Nancy Coxall		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yikes!....all of this is a horrible nightmare.  We will wake up one day and life will be as it was before this rude awakening......FRAUD!....iF ONLY!

If the disaster that we are sitting in the middle of was caused from a few  crazed people, we could take them out of commission by putting them behind bars for the rest of their natural lives.

From what I see and read the corruption is in every segment of our lives...with the exception of the people on &quot;Main Street&quot;.  We live by he laws of the land because we are good citizens and do what we are told.  We conform to the rules of society.....W H i i i i i i i i i i i L E ! !  the rest of this Countries are out and out depraved CRIMINALS...

This is something we have all become painfully aware of since the bitter pill of   FORECLOSURE FRAUD has been rammed down our throats......We are all enraged over all that has come out  from under the carpet....

HOWEVER!....This is not the worst of it...the worst is we are sitting back  watching and waiting for all of the same depraved CRIMINALS who deliberately, through cold and calculating deeds have taken away our most prized possession.....our  homes.   

We now are giving these same people the ability to make this right for the citizens of &quot;Main Street&quot;, who we already know are back peddeling so they don&#039;t   lose any of their stollen money....  HELLO !, HELLO!,  You all know as well as I.....all we are doing is giving them the time to put into law a process by which we lose, lose and hey win, win.  They will forgive The Banks....They get to keep all of our money and homes....ALL IN THE NAME OF IT IS WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR ECONOMY AND COUNTRY.   

Hell, I cannot think of a better reason to impeach the whole lot of them.  Get them out of  CONTROL.  That includes the Judges all politicians.  We would never know for sure if any of them are truly innocent or not.  WE THE PEOPLE WRITE THE LAW, THAT IS FAIR AND EQUAL TO ALL.  AND.....punish the rest of the slime so they can never hurt us again....Besides....,prison, freeze  all of their assets, until we can figure out an estimate of the value of the homes already foreclosed and give the citizens their money back or their home or if still vacant,  repair the homes that are in disrepair because of sitting vacant....as that grinning, smirking, cocky, pompous representative from Deutsche Bank so delicately told us as they were discussing  bulldozing our homes.....Then, total the remaining money that has been frozen.give back to all of the citizens who have been put through years of this freaking hell....and move on with our lives.

Oh, but wait, we will need people to govern.  WE THE PEOPLE will vote for one one of our own for the positions that  were held by the criminals of the century..

Just a little humor here!.....Do any of remember the ORIGINAL Movie....&quot;The Invasion of the body snatchers?&quot;  There was a pod placed near all he citizens of the town....and when they fell to sleep these pods would open and be identical to one of the citizens...and replace that person.  These people who were replaced no longer had any emotions..  Well think about this.....that is almost like it feels in our Country....those criminals are walking around among us and we cannot know for certain if they are one of  THEM or not .  So, they all go!  This is the time where you do throw he baby out with the bath water!

Desperate people do desperate things!.....WE THE PEOPLE, need to take care of each other, The trust will come back and America will be the greatest Nation in the world once again and forever!

                                                                                I F    O NL Y  !!

Nancy]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes!&#8230;.all of this is a horrible nightmare.  We will wake up one day and life will be as it was before this rude awakening&#8230;&#8230;FRAUD!&#8230;.iF ONLY!</p>
<p>If the disaster that we are sitting in the middle of was caused from a few  crazed people, we could take them out of commission by putting them behind bars for the rest of their natural lives.</p>
<p>From what I see and read the corruption is in every segment of our lives&#8230;with the exception of the people on &#8220;Main Street&#8221;.  We live by he laws of the land because we are good citizens and do what we are told.  We conform to the rules of society&#8230;..W H i i i i i i i i i i i L E ! !  the rest of this Countries are out and out depraved CRIMINALS&#8230;</p>
<p>This is something we have all become painfully aware of since the bitter pill of   FORECLOSURE FRAUD has been rammed down our throats&#8230;&#8230;We are all enraged over all that has come out  from under the carpet&#8230;.</p>
<p>HOWEVER!&#8230;.This is not the worst of it&#8230;the worst is we are sitting back  watching and waiting for all of the same depraved CRIMINALS who deliberately, through cold and calculating deeds have taken away our most prized possession&#8230;..our  homes.   </p>
<p>We now are giving these same people the ability to make this right for the citizens of &#8220;Main Street&#8221;, who we already know are back peddeling so they don&#8217;t   lose any of their stollen money&#8230;.  HELLO !, HELLO!,  You all know as well as I&#8230;..all we are doing is giving them the time to put into law a process by which we lose, lose and hey win, win.  They will forgive The Banks&#8230;.They get to keep all of our money and homes&#8230;.ALL IN THE NAME OF IT IS WHAT IS BEST FOR OUR ECONOMY AND COUNTRY.   </p>
<p>Hell, I cannot think of a better reason to impeach the whole lot of them.  Get them out of  CONTROL.  That includes the Judges all politicians.  We would never know for sure if any of them are truly innocent or not.  WE THE PEOPLE WRITE THE LAW, THAT IS FAIR AND EQUAL TO ALL.  AND&#8230;..punish the rest of the slime so they can never hurt us again&#8230;.Besides&#8230;.,prison, freeze  all of their assets, until we can figure out an estimate of the value of the homes already foreclosed and give the citizens their money back or their home or if still vacant,  repair the homes that are in disrepair because of sitting vacant&#8230;.as that grinning, smirking, cocky, pompous representative from Deutsche Bank so delicately told us as they were discussing  bulldozing our homes&#8230;..Then, total the remaining money that has been frozen.give back to all of the citizens who have been put through years of this freaking hell&#8230;.and move on with our lives.</p>
<p>Oh, but wait, we will need people to govern.  WE THE PEOPLE will vote for one one of our own for the positions that  were held by the criminals of the century..</p>
<p>Just a little humor here!&#8230;..Do any of remember the ORIGINAL Movie&#8230;.&#8221;The Invasion of the body snatchers?&#8221;  There was a pod placed near all he citizens of the town&#8230;.and when they fell to sleep these pods would open and be identical to one of the citizens&#8230;and replace that person.  These people who were replaced no longer had any emotions..  Well think about this&#8230;..that is almost like it feels in our Country&#8230;.those criminals are walking around among us and we cannot know for certain if they are one of  THEM or not .  So, they all go!  This is the time where you do throw he baby out with the bath water!</p>
<p>Desperate people do desperate things!&#8230;..WE THE PEOPLE, need to take care of each other, The trust will come back and America will be the greatest Nation in the world once again and forever!</p>
<p>                                                                                I F    O NL Y  !!</p>
<p>Nancy</p>
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		By: inernetasker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 08:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/21/beyond-foreclosuregate-it-gets-uglier/#comment-28836&quot;&gt;inernetasker&lt;/a&gt;.

Oops, sorry, typo.  

Meant &quot;weaving together&quot;.

(Although if we can afford a sense of humor - maybe the typo in&quot; leaving together&quot; as typed above is not without meaning).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/21/beyond-foreclosuregate-it-gets-uglier/#comment-28836">inernetasker</a>.</p>
<p>Oops, sorry, typo.  </p>
<p>Meant &#8220;weaving together&#8221;.</p>
<p>(Although if we can afford a sense of humor &#8211; maybe the typo in&#8221; leaving together&#8221; as typed above is not without meaning).</p>
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		By: inernetasker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 08:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Michael Collins and all here for insight and skills at leaving together various factors.

This forum is a great source of information on foreclosure fraud - and now as has been awaited a reflection on mortgage fraud itself where one might see that homes were in actuality taken by the nature and circumstances of the loan or alleged loan itself in real time.
 
It is heartbreaking to learn of children and their loving parents displaced from their homes and often on the hopes attached to a first purchase. 

Also to be considered is extreme elder-abuse on older persons whose prior, in-place mortgages were being steadily paid until offered a great &quot;opportunity&quot; to downsize debt in the face of severe economic downturns.  “Opportunities” of course requiring going delinquent as a qualification. 
 
Where widows widowers and others living alone for instance, frail or robust, are going to go - is unclear -  as is the status of all property of every sort. 

Ideas?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Michael Collins and all here for insight and skills at leaving together various factors.</p>
<p>This forum is a great source of information on foreclosure fraud &#8211; and now as has been awaited a reflection on mortgage fraud itself where one might see that homes were in actuality taken by the nature and circumstances of the loan or alleged loan itself in real time.</p>
<p>It is heartbreaking to learn of children and their loving parents displaced from their homes and often on the hopes attached to a first purchase. </p>
<p>Also to be considered is extreme elder-abuse on older persons whose prior, in-place mortgages were being steadily paid until offered a great &#8220;opportunity&#8221; to downsize debt in the face of severe economic downturns.  “Opportunities” of course requiring going delinquent as a qualification. </p>
<p>Where widows widowers and others living alone for instance, frail or robust, are going to go &#8211; is unclear &#8211;  as is the status of all property of every sort. </p>
<p>Ideas?</p>
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		By: Marilyn Abdilla		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 05:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/21/beyond-foreclosuregate-it-gets-uglier/#comment-28756&quot;&gt;leapfrog&lt;/a&gt;.

I vent...I would need more than a sprinkle of holy water...LOL......to be honest....I really have not cared for any of them for many years..... BUT....I did not like Bush sr. or his &#039;clone &#039;....it may have been from the bad  &#039; thoughts &#039; I had after reading of Prescot Bush...many years ago  about the times before and after the war.  So I always felt there was a shady undercover hiden scheme with them........very uneasy to explain vibes....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/21/beyond-foreclosuregate-it-gets-uglier/#comment-28756">leapfrog</a>.</p>
<p>I vent&#8230;I would need more than a sprinkle of holy water&#8230;LOL&#8230;&#8230;to be honest&#8230;.I really have not cared for any of them for many years&#8230;.. BUT&#8230;.I did not like Bush sr. or his &#8216;clone &#8216;&#8230;.it may have been from the bad  &#8216; thoughts &#8216; I had after reading of Prescot Bush&#8230;many years ago  about the times before and after the war.  So I always felt there was a shady undercover hiden scheme with them&#8230;&#8230;..very uneasy to explain vibes&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 02:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; If the public ever gets a complete picture of the personal, financial, and legal assault on citizens at their most vulnerable, the outrage will be endless.&quot;

We&#039;re educating home-owners about MERS clouding of title, breaking the story down so that everyone understands this affects all home-owners - not just those in foreclosure.

We&#039;re making headway and are urging home-owners with clouded title (MERS)  mortgages/securities to file clear title actions.

It is our hope that we can provide all home-owners with an orderly method to determine identity of their true lender and negotiate a new deal at the current market value.  For those who lost their homes in foreclosure or short sale, we believe relief should be provided by state courts on a case-by-case basis.  All borrowers are unique - one size fits all solution will not do.

We agree that bankuptcy laws need to change so that judges are empowered to cram down mortgages on principal residences.  We have propsed this to members of Congress, but the TBTF mantra has clearly taken hold, so more work needs to be done on this issue.

We&#039;re havivng more success with NJ Governor, Supreme Court and County Clerks, who are considering our Constitution-based solutions.

This is not a left/right issue.  All home-owners have been harmed. It&#039;s an opportunity for people of all political persuasions to work together and restore property rights, due process, states rights and the rule of law.

If you would like to spread the word, and get these solutions in front of your state representatives, visit:
www.njteapartycoalition.org. The Systemic Mortgage Fraud presentation can be viewed and/or downloaded from the site.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; If the public ever gets a complete picture of the personal, financial, and legal assault on citizens at their most vulnerable, the outrage will be endless.&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;re educating home-owners about MERS clouding of title, breaking the story down so that everyone understands this affects all home-owners &#8211; not just those in foreclosure.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re making headway and are urging home-owners with clouded title (MERS)  mortgages/securities to file clear title actions.</p>
<p>It is our hope that we can provide all home-owners with an orderly method to determine identity of their true lender and negotiate a new deal at the current market value.  For those who lost their homes in foreclosure or short sale, we believe relief should be provided by state courts on a case-by-case basis.  All borrowers are unique &#8211; one size fits all solution will not do.</p>
<p>We agree that bankuptcy laws need to change so that judges are empowered to cram down mortgages on principal residences.  We have propsed this to members of Congress, but the TBTF mantra has clearly taken hold, so more work needs to be done on this issue.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re havivng more success with NJ Governor, Supreme Court and County Clerks, who are considering our Constitution-based solutions.</p>
<p>This is not a left/right issue.  All home-owners have been harmed. It&#8217;s an opportunity for people of all political persuasions to work together and restore property rights, due process, states rights and the rule of law.</p>
<p>If you would like to spread the word, and get these solutions in front of your state representatives, visit:<br />
<a href="http://www.njteapartycoalition.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.njteapartycoalition.org</a>. The Systemic Mortgage Fraud presentation can be viewed and/or downloaded from the site.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 23:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i thank michael collins for his reports on fraudclosure.

it is not enough that decent people are outraged. we ARE outraged.
the courts and elected officials need to clean up this swampy foreclosure and predatory lending muck.

give back money damages to the victims who have been defrauded.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i thank michael collins for his reports on fraudclosure.</p>
<p>it is not enough that decent people are outraged. we ARE outraged.<br />
the courts and elected officials need to clean up this swampy foreclosure and predatory lending muck.</p>
<p>give back money damages to the victims who have been defrauded.</p>
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		By: leapfrog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 19:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/21/beyond-foreclosuregate-it-gets-uglier/#comment-28749&quot;&gt;l vent&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree!  And combined with that pic of the ever-lying slimy elitist turbotaxtimmy was enough to get my BP boiling.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/04/21/beyond-foreclosuregate-it-gets-uglier/#comment-28749">l vent</a>.</p>
<p>I agree!  And combined with that pic of the ever-lying slimy elitist turbotaxtimmy was enough to get my BP boiling.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 18:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting...thanks..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting&#8230;thanks..</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 18:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After reading this and seeing the picture of that evil thing, that traitor of America, the abominable, George W. Bush, I felt the need to sprinkle myself with some holy water. I find him a particularly despicable treasonist.  One of the worst ones, though all of the Presidents  contributed and played an integral role in this nightmare he is who I most despise..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this and seeing the picture of that evil thing, that traitor of America, the abominable, George W. Bush, I felt the need to sprinkle myself with some holy water. I find him a particularly despicable treasonist.  One of the worst ones, though all of the Presidents  contributed and played an integral role in this nightmare he is who I most despise..</p>
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