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	Comments on: Thrivent Financial Sues Countrywide and GMAC for &#8220;Massive Frauds&#8221; 95% Countrywide Certificates and 85% GMAC Certificates Rated as Junk	</title>
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		By: Ali		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ali]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 08:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[HOW CAN ONE ENGAGE IN A MEANINGFULL MODIFICTION AGREEMENT WITH AN UNRELIABLE (AS THEY HAVE PROVEN BEFORE WITH MOD PROGRAMS) PARTNER WHO DOES NOT OWN THE NOTE, EXC-- USE ME, THERE NO LONGER IS  A NOTE THEY ARE  SECURITIES. FURTHERMORE, DOES ANYONE REALLY THINK THE INVESTORS ARE GOING TO COME FORWARD AND LOSE THEIR TAX EXEMP STATUS? I DON&#039;T THINK SO. THEY DON&#039;T WANT TO BE DRAGGED THROUGH THE MUD FOR HO-- USES THAT ARE WORTH ALOT LESS THEN ORIGINALLY EXPECTED. MANY WILL THOUGH BECA-- USE THAY CAN&#039;T CONTROL THEIR GREED.BOA TOLD ME &quot;CONGRADULATIONS, YOU HAVE BEEN APPROVED SO SEND YOUR UPFRONT MONEY  IMMEDIATELY OR YOU WILL LOSE YOUR MOD. WE WIRED IT IN AND SAVED THE EVIDECE. WIRE FRAUD! THEY MADE IT ILLEGAL FOR ANYONE TO ACCEPY UPFRONT MONEY. WE KNOW WHY THEY DID THAT, SO NO ATTY&#039;S WILL TAKE OUR CASES.I HAVE BEEN INUDATED WITH MAIL AND PHONE CALLS  FROM MY SO CALLED CASE MGR AND BOA FINANCIAL FRAUD DIVISION. SHE WAS ACUALLY  INTERAGATING ME ABOUT THE CHAIN OF TITLE. SEE THEY STILL DON&#039;T HAVE THE INFORMATION THEY NEED. I TOLD HER I WASN&#039;T GOING TO HELP.  HELP HERSELF TO OUR HO-- USE. I SAID &quot;LOOK, THE LOAN IS NO MORE, YOU ENSURED THAT BY SECURITIZING OUR LOAN. HOW DO YOU SPELL BIFURCATION. i WAS NOT IN AGOOD MOOD TODAY AMD i TOOK IT OUT ON HER.  SHE SAID SHE WOULD HAVE SOMEONE CONTACT ME RE HER FINDINGS BUT IT WOULD NOT BE HER. I GUESS SHE JUST  DOEN&#039;T WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH AND IS INCAPABLE OF ANY OTHER SOLUTIONS THAT MAY EXIST LIKE GIVING THE HOMEOWNER THE PROFITS THAY MADE OFF OF OUR HOMES  WITH THE SWAPS AND FORCE PLACED INSURANCE, JUST TO NAME A FEW. WHAT i REALLY CAN&#039;T GET OVER IS HOW THEY ARE IGNORING THIS AND ACTING LIKE NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. YOU SEE IT IN THE COMMERCIALS  AND ADS WITH GIANT TVS FOR SALE. hELL WE EVEN HAVE BEEN SENT SEVERAL OFFERS FOR CREDIT CARDS. WE OWN NONE, NOT GONNA BE IN THE CREDIT CARD BOUBLE! i MADE HER ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY WERE JUST DEBT COLLECTORS AND MAYBE THEY SHOULD SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT. i TOLD HER TO BE ALL HER INVEATORS OF THE MORTGAGE TO COURT AND LET THE MEDIATORS FIGURE IT OUT, sHE WAS DONE WITH ME FOR SURE. I VENT YOU ARE SO RIGHT. ARE YOU IN CHICAGO?  WOULD TO GO TO ONE OF YOUR HEARING WITH YOU FOR SUPPORT AN DTO SEE WHAT I AM UP AGAINST.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HOW CAN ONE ENGAGE IN A MEANINGFULL MODIFICTION AGREEMENT WITH AN UNRELIABLE (AS THEY HAVE PROVEN BEFORE WITH MOD PROGRAMS) PARTNER WHO DOES NOT OWN THE NOTE, EXC&#8211; USE ME, THERE NO LONGER IS  A NOTE THEY ARE  SECURITIES. FURTHERMORE, DOES ANYONE REALLY THINK THE INVESTORS ARE GOING TO COME FORWARD AND LOSE THEIR TAX EXEMP STATUS? I DON&#8217;T THINK SO. THEY DON&#8217;T WANT TO BE DRAGGED THROUGH THE MUD FOR HO&#8211; USES THAT ARE WORTH ALOT LESS THEN ORIGINALLY EXPECTED. MANY WILL THOUGH BECA&#8211; USE THAY CAN&#8217;T CONTROL THEIR GREED.BOA TOLD ME &#8220;CONGRADULATIONS, YOU HAVE BEEN APPROVED SO SEND YOUR UPFRONT MONEY  IMMEDIATELY OR YOU WILL LOSE YOUR MOD. WE WIRED IT IN AND SAVED THE EVIDECE. WIRE FRAUD! THEY MADE IT ILLEGAL FOR ANYONE TO ACCEPY UPFRONT MONEY. WE KNOW WHY THEY DID THAT, SO NO ATTY&#8217;S WILL TAKE OUR CASES.I HAVE BEEN INUDATED WITH MAIL AND PHONE CALLS  FROM MY SO CALLED CASE MGR AND BOA FINANCIAL FRAUD DIVISION. SHE WAS ACUALLY  INTERAGATING ME ABOUT THE CHAIN OF TITLE. SEE THEY STILL DON&#8217;T HAVE THE INFORMATION THEY NEED. I TOLD HER I WASN&#8217;T GOING TO HELP.  HELP HERSELF TO OUR HO&#8211; USE. I SAID &#8220;LOOK, THE LOAN IS NO MORE, YOU ENSURED THAT BY SECURITIZING OUR LOAN. HOW DO YOU SPELL BIFURCATION. i WAS NOT IN AGOOD MOOD TODAY AMD i TOOK IT OUT ON HER.  SHE SAID SHE WOULD HAVE SOMEONE CONTACT ME RE HER FINDINGS BUT IT WOULD NOT BE HER. I GUESS SHE JUST  DOEN&#8217;T WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH AND IS INCAPABLE OF ANY OTHER SOLUTIONS THAT MAY EXIST LIKE GIVING THE HOMEOWNER THE PROFITS THAY MADE OFF OF OUR HOMES  WITH THE SWAPS AND FORCE PLACED INSURANCE, JUST TO NAME A FEW. WHAT i REALLY CAN&#8217;T GET OVER IS HOW THEY ARE IGNORING THIS AND ACTING LIKE NOTHING HAS HAPPENED. YOU SEE IT IN THE COMMERCIALS  AND ADS WITH GIANT TVS FOR SALE. hELL WE EVEN HAVE BEEN SENT SEVERAL OFFERS FOR CREDIT CARDS. WE OWN NONE, NOT GONNA BE IN THE CREDIT CARD BOUBLE! i MADE HER ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY WERE JUST DEBT COLLECTORS AND MAYBE THEY SHOULD SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT. i TOLD HER TO BE ALL HER INVEATORS OF THE MORTGAGE TO COURT AND LET THE MEDIATORS FIGURE IT OUT, sHE WAS DONE WITH ME FOR SURE. I VENT YOU ARE SO RIGHT. ARE YOU IN CHICAGO?  WOULD TO GO TO ONE OF YOUR HEARING WITH YOU FOR SUPPORT AN DTO SEE WHAT I AM UP AGAINST.</p>
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		By: victory		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-52097</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 02:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Tim Bryant -- I saved a comment you made regarding SEC filing you did, but I cannot remember the folder I put it in.  Have you explained this.  I remember vaguely being interested in other comments you made in that particular post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tim Bryant &#8212; I saved a comment you made regarding SEC filing you did, but I cannot remember the folder I put it in.  Have you explained this.  I remember vaguely being interested in other comments you made in that particular post.</p>
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		By: fighting mad, mad as hell		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30523</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fighting mad, mad as hell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 15:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Again I ask, why aren&#039;t people taking back homes? The news is Michigan is that the senators are looking to shorten the redemption time from 6 months to 3 months, blaming, of course, irresponsible homeowners for being in foreclosure and undeserving of any extra time to fight. These guys are chomping at the bit to rush thru as many foreclosures as possible as soon as possible. They are auctioning off homes with the families still in them this month!
Many homes are set up to look like they are occupied to keep home values up while the houses are being shuttled back and forth between real estate companies and auction companies. Raising prices on others then selling them back to HUD as a default. 
No families ever get to buy or save these homes, yet it&#039;s being touted on the news that home sales are up and things are getting better. 
Trespassing only applies to open land here, so taking back a vacant house is not illegal.
The county dropped the program to get these vacant houses thru them in favor of...nothing.
No program, no information, no accountability for keeping up these houses now. Instead of a viable, workable program that was turning these places back into homes, we have...NOTHING.
Nothing other than an unusable list of homes that now belong to the county with no way to do anything until Sept or Oct. when the next auction starts.
The frustrating part is that the program is still listed as working, but no one answers the phone, no links or websites work and anything else connected to this program leads to dead ends.
Is anybody on the side of the people?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again I ask, why aren&#8217;t people taking back homes? The news is Michigan is that the senators are looking to shorten the redemption time from 6 months to 3 months, blaming, of course, irresponsible homeowners for being in foreclosure and undeserving of any extra time to fight. These guys are chomping at the bit to rush thru as many foreclosures as possible as soon as possible. They are auctioning off homes with the families still in them this month!<br />
Many homes are set up to look like they are occupied to keep home values up while the houses are being shuttled back and forth between real estate companies and auction companies. Raising prices on others then selling them back to HUD as a default.<br />
No families ever get to buy or save these homes, yet it&#8217;s being touted on the news that home sales are up and things are getting better.<br />
Trespassing only applies to open land here, so taking back a vacant house is not illegal.<br />
The county dropped the program to get these vacant houses thru them in favor of&#8230;nothing.<br />
No program, no information, no accountability for keeping up these houses now. Instead of a viable, workable program that was turning these places back into homes, we have&#8230;NOTHING.<br />
Nothing other than an unusable list of homes that now belong to the county with no way to do anything until Sept or Oct. when the next auction starts.<br />
The frustrating part is that the program is still listed as working, but no one answers the phone, no links or websites work and anything else connected to this program leads to dead ends.<br />
Is anybody on the side of the people?</p>
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		By: Tim Bryant		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30475</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 05:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30389&quot;&gt;AliceN.Wunderland&lt;/a&gt;.

I have no pity for the investors. Anyone who has read a PSA knows that the problems we are facing trying to find out who owns our loans, and the lack of servicing by the banks on behalf of our fiduciary rights, is explicitly written into the PSAs. The investors bought these loans with full knowledge of the extrinsic fraud that would be used against borrowers. I picture these suits more as devide-and-conquer. They fight each other, their depositions become public, and we gain from these disclosures.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30389">AliceN.Wunderland</a>.</p>
<p>I have no pity for the investors. Anyone who has read a PSA knows that the problems we are facing trying to find out who owns our loans, and the lack of servicing by the banks on behalf of our fiduciary rights, is explicitly written into the PSAs. The investors bought these loans with full knowledge of the extrinsic fraud that would be used against borrowers. I picture these suits more as devide-and-conquer. They fight each other, their depositions become public, and we gain from these disclosures.</p>
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		By: l vent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30453</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[l vent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 01:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30396&quot;&gt;AliceN.Wunderland&lt;/a&gt;.

Colin, the realistic value is, these houses are worth ZERO. THEY ARE WORTHLESS BECA-- USE OF ALL OF THE MORTGAGE FRAUD. TIME FOR THE BANKSTERS TO WALK AWAY FROM TRYING TO FRAUDCLOSE AND STEAL  OUR HOMES THAT THEY DO NOT OWN. THEN, THEY MUST GIVE THE HOMELESS PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW LIVING IN THEIR CARS, TENTS, UNDER VIADUCTS, AND IN THE STREETS, BECA-- USE OF THE PRETENDER LENDERS PURE GREED, BACK THEIR STOLEN HOMES AND A BIG MONETARY SETTLEMENT SO THEY CAN GET THEIR STOLEN LIVES BACK ON TRACK.. .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30396">AliceN.Wunderland</a>.</p>
<p>Colin, the realistic value is, these houses are worth ZERO. THEY ARE WORTHLESS BECA&#8211; USE OF ALL OF THE MORTGAGE FRAUD. TIME FOR THE BANKSTERS TO WALK AWAY FROM TRYING TO FRAUDCLOSE AND STEAL  OUR HOMES THAT THEY DO NOT OWN. THEN, THEY MUST GIVE THE HOMELESS PEOPLE WHO ARE NOW LIVING IN THEIR CARS, TENTS, UNDER VIADUCTS, AND IN THE STREETS, BECA&#8211; USE OF THE PRETENDER LENDERS PURE GREED, BACK THEIR STOLEN HOMES AND A BIG MONETARY SETTLEMENT SO THEY CAN GET THEIR STOLEN LIVES BACK ON TRACK.. .</p>
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		By: l vent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30447</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[l vent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 01:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30396&quot;&gt;AliceN.Wunderland&lt;/a&gt;.

THERE ARE NO LOANS TO BE RE-WORKED, THAT WOULD BE MORE FRAUD. THESE ARE PRETENDER LENDERS, THEY NEVER LENT ANYONE ANY MONEY.  IT IS CALLED COUNTERFEIT SECURTIES FRAUD. The loans NEVER existed. They were FLOATED and they made HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS OFF OF THAT DECEPTION. The FOREIGN FINANCIAL CRIMINALS MADE 100 TRILLION DOLLARS OFF OF THE MORTGAGE DERIVATIVE FRAUD ALONE.  ALL OF OUR HOMES HAVE BEEN PAID FOR 3-4 TIMES OVER. THEY GOT PAID AND THEN SOME. RESCIND THE FAKE CONTRACTS. THEY ARE PHONY AND FRAUDULENT. THESE FINANCIAL TERRORISTS ARE JUST BEING GREEDY NOW,  THEY WANT THAT CREDIT DEFAULT SWAP INSURANCE MONEY AND _OUR HOMES_. THEY ARE GREEDY PIGS, GORGING THEMSELVES AT THE TROUGH. THEY ALSO GOT THE GINORMOUS TARP/HAMP BAILOUT AND MANY OTHER BACK DOOR BAILOUTS. THE FEDERAL RESERVE HAS BEEN COVERING THEIR ASSES WITH QE1&#038;2. THEY KEEP GETTING RICHER AND WE KEEP GETTING POORER. THEY HAVE ROBBED AMERICA BLIND AND THEN SOME. If I hear the word loan modification one more time I am going to throw up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30396">AliceN.Wunderland</a>.</p>
<p>THERE ARE NO LOANS TO BE RE-WORKED, THAT WOULD BE MORE FRAUD. THESE ARE PRETENDER LENDERS, THEY NEVER LENT ANYONE ANY MONEY.  IT IS CALLED COUNTERFEIT SECURTIES FRAUD. The loans NEVER existed. They were FLOATED and they made HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS OFF OF THAT DECEPTION. The FOREIGN FINANCIAL CRIMINALS MADE 100 TRILLION DOLLARS OFF OF THE MORTGAGE DERIVATIVE FRAUD ALONE.  ALL OF OUR HOMES HAVE BEEN PAID FOR 3-4 TIMES OVER. THEY GOT PAID AND THEN SOME. RESCIND THE FAKE CONTRACTS. THEY ARE PHONY AND FRAUDULENT. THESE FINANCIAL TERRORISTS ARE JUST BEING GREEDY NOW,  THEY WANT THAT CREDIT DEFAULT SWAP INSURANCE MONEY AND _OUR HOMES_. THEY ARE GREEDY PIGS, GORGING THEMSELVES AT THE TROUGH. THEY ALSO GOT THE GINORMOUS TARP/HAMP BAILOUT AND MANY OTHER BACK DOOR BAILOUTS. THE FEDERAL RESERVE HAS BEEN COVERING THEIR ASSES WITH QE1&amp;2. THEY KEEP GETTING RICHER AND WE KEEP GETTING POORER. THEY HAVE ROBBED AMERICA BLIND AND THEN SOME. If I hear the word loan modification one more time I am going to throw up.</p>
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		By: l vent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[l vent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 00:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30382&quot;&gt;rictic&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree, there is rampant corruption at all levels. I hope they sue them all out of existance. Now Bloomberg is reporting that  the Foreign investors want an investigation into Goldman Sucks and AIG. I think FANNIE/FREDDIE should be on that list  along with the so-called  RATINGS AGENCIES. They were all FOREIGN MULTINATIONAL PERPS and PIMPS, FRAUDSTERS AND PONZI SCHEMING/SCAMMING LYING CRIMINAL SHEISTER GIANT PIECES OF SHIT.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30382">rictic</a>.</p>
<p>I agree, there is rampant corruption at all levels. I hope they sue them all out of existance. Now Bloomberg is reporting that  the Foreign investors want an investigation into Goldman Sucks and AIG. I think FANNIE/FREDDIE should be on that list  along with the so-called  RATINGS AGENCIES. They were all FOREIGN MULTINATIONAL PERPS and PIMPS, FRAUDSTERS AND PONZI SCHEMING/SCAMMING LYING CRIMINAL SHEISTER GIANT PIECES OF SHIT.</p>
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		By: Colin		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30432</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 00:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30396&quot;&gt;AliceN.Wunderland&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly. If the Investors and the Borrowers could be brought together, I am sure the loans could be re-worked to a more realistic value. Fat chance of that happening...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30396">AliceN.Wunderland</a>.</p>
<p>Exactly. If the Investors and the Borrowers could be brought together, I am sure the loans could be re-worked to a more realistic value. Fat chance of that happening&#8230;</p>
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		By: AliceN.Wunderland		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AliceN.Wunderland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 21:43:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30362&quot;&gt;l vent&lt;/a&gt;.

Absolutely, without a national moratorium this will contine to sink the u.s. into the abyss.  At least with the investors starting to sue there is a chance of saving this.  The banks have failed in more ways than one.  Perhaps the borrowers should contact the investors directly to try to rework their loans.  Afterall the investors are the local municipalities, pensions funds, etc.   If the individual borrowers made contact then the liars in this whole scam would be weeded out..  The first step would have to be disclosure.  Which mbs actually believes they own the loan.  Guess it would come down to whoever got the first &#039;assignment&#039; a joke of course since each loan was divied up and sold with no assignments,  guess that won&#039;t work either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30362">l vent</a>.</p>
<p>Absolutely, without a national moratorium this will contine to sink the u.s. into the abyss.  At least with the investors starting to sue there is a chance of saving this.  The banks have failed in more ways than one.  Perhaps the borrowers should contact the investors directly to try to rework their loans.  Afterall the investors are the local municipalities, pensions funds, etc.   If the individual borrowers made contact then the liars in this whole scam would be weeded out..  The first step would have to be disclosure.  Which mbs actually believes they own the loan.  Guess it would come down to whoever got the first &#8216;assignment&#8217; a joke of course since each loan was divied up and sold with no assignments,  guess that won&#8217;t work either.</p>
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		By: AliceN.Wunderland		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/02/thrivent-financial-sues-countrywide-and-gmac-for-massive-frauds-95-countrywide-certificates-and-85-gmac-certificates-rated-as-junk/#comment-30389</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AliceN.Wunderland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 21:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I applaud the lawsuits by the investors.  They should be going after the banks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud the lawsuits by the investors.  They should be going after the banks.</p>
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