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		By: l vent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/27/no-sale-foreclosure-homes-in-florida-starting-to-lose-their-appeal/#comment-34963</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[l vent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 05:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/27/no-sale-foreclosure-homes-in-florida-starting-to-lose-their-appeal/#comment-34615&quot;&gt;l vent&lt;/a&gt;.

They will never admit their wrong doings. There are so many players in this. Even the title companies turned a blind eye to the fraud. They were all committing fraud or aiding and abetting it. They politicians are filthy too.. All fingers point to the head of the snake, it started with some treasonists in Congress who devised this scheme in the backrooms and then Fannie Mae instituted the plan from start to finish, their fingerprints are indullible all over this in this. .They bought everyone including the ratings agencies, federal regulators. title companies, the underwriters of the shit loans. Fannie Mae wore many disguises in this PONZI SCHEME. There could be no other possible explanation for how they pulled this off.  Gretchen Morgensen was on Elliot Spitzer the other night, she wrote a new book about Fannie Mae&#039;s financial crimes of the century and named names. One finger points and accuses and the accused points right back. That is why no big fish have gone to jail for these crimes. When everyone is guilty no one is guilty. That is what is so diabolical about this.  They used Madoff as a distraction, he is small in the big scheme of things.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/27/no-sale-foreclosure-homes-in-florida-starting-to-lose-their-appeal/#comment-34615">l vent</a>.</p>
<p>They will never admit their wrong doings. There are so many players in this. Even the title companies turned a blind eye to the fraud. They were all committing fraud or aiding and abetting it. They politicians are filthy too.. All fingers point to the head of the snake, it started with some treasonists in Congress who devised this scheme in the backrooms and then Fannie Mae instituted the plan from start to finish, their fingerprints are indullible all over this in this. .They bought everyone including the ratings agencies, federal regulators. title companies, the underwriters of the shit loans. Fannie Mae wore many disguises in this PONZI SCHEME. There could be no other possible explanation for how they pulled this off.  Gretchen Morgensen was on Elliot Spitzer the other night, she wrote a new book about Fannie Mae&#8217;s financial crimes of the century and named names. One finger points and accuses and the accused points right back. That is why no big fish have gone to jail for these crimes. When everyone is guilty no one is guilty. That is what is so diabolical about this.  They used Madoff as a distraction, he is small in the big scheme of things.</p>
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		By: l vent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/27/no-sale-foreclosure-homes-in-florida-starting-to-lose-their-appeal/#comment-34958</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[l vent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 05:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/27/no-sale-foreclosure-homes-in-florida-starting-to-lose-their-appeal/#comment-34644&quot;&gt;Tim Bryant&lt;/a&gt;.

She quit right after that and her co anchor Mark suddenly died the other day. I read E.B.  is a member of the trilateral commiss and used to work for CITI before she came to CNBC. I like Mark,  He was honest. He pulled no punches with the CEO&#039;s and the politicians. If they were lying he told them they were liars. He called them out and never hid his disgust for the fraudsters.  I often wondered why they did not can him. He also spoke out about the bailouts and said  the banksters cheated the  taxpayers on the bailouts when they paid themselves big bonuses. That is probably why he is dead, too honest.. Remember Tim Russert died suddenly of a heart attack not long after he asked Bush and Kerry about their skull and bones days.  They people hiding behind this are evil incarnate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/27/no-sale-foreclosure-homes-in-florida-starting-to-lose-their-appeal/#comment-34644">Tim Bryant</a>.</p>
<p>She quit right after that and her co anchor Mark suddenly died the other day. I read E.B.  is a member of the trilateral commiss and used to work for CITI before she came to CNBC. I like Mark,  He was honest. He pulled no punches with the CEO&#8217;s and the politicians. If they were lying he told them they were liars. He called them out and never hid his disgust for the fraudsters.  I often wondered why they did not can him. He also spoke out about the bailouts and said  the banksters cheated the  taxpayers on the bailouts when they paid themselves big bonuses. That is probably why he is dead, too honest.. Remember Tim Russert died suddenly of a heart attack not long after he asked Bush and Kerry about their skull and bones days.  They people hiding behind this are evil incarnate.</p>
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		By: Shelley A. Erickson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shelley A. Erickson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 May 2011 01:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do these people realize the home may still have a clouded title even if it is not in foreclosure?   Every home needs a forenzic audit before being purchased.  Three forenzic audits. title, deed of trust and securitization.  Clouded titles are not caused by foreclosure, they are discovered in foreclosures.  They were there all along.  No one can trust any mortgage being a clear title.  The banks and title companies are accepting partial title insurance on the ones that are clouded.  The purchasers does not even undersand this.  This is another huge reason the banks want the houses for free, to cover the asses and file quiet title themselves and hide the evidence to avoid litigation.  However they have been caught!.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do these people realize the home may still have a clouded title even if it is not in foreclosure?   Every home needs a forenzic audit before being purchased.  Three forenzic audits. title, deed of trust and securitization.  Clouded titles are not caused by foreclosure, they are discovered in foreclosures.  They were there all along.  No one can trust any mortgage being a clear title.  The banks and title companies are accepting partial title insurance on the ones that are clouded.  The purchasers does not even undersand this.  This is another huge reason the banks want the houses for free, to cover the asses and file quiet title themselves and hide the evidence to avoid litigation.  However they have been caught!.</p>
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		By: Sui the Gator		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sui the Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 12:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I recently underwrote a loan where the borrower purchased a short sale, at about $140,000, and three months later tried to refi with a normal loan (he got emergency financing- which was over 80% Loan to Value- and probably had a balloon payment) and when the appraisal came in at $185,000 he expected our analysis to be on the $185,000... NOT!!!!!...   As far as the lender is concerned, the value is the $140,000, 12 months have to elapse before we consider the new appraised value vs the purchase price.    This guy should have known better, he was an investor, and was now &quot;occupying&quot; this house and claimed he made all these improvements, but could not provide documentation.   As long as this type of mentally exists, the industry won&#039;t get better.  And that short sale affected the neighbors.   He should have put 20% down on the $140,000, then when he was ready to refinance to normal Fannie/Freddie, it would have worked.   The loan officer of this company should have advised this customer right away, so the BS and deception goes on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently underwrote a loan where the borrower purchased a short sale, at about $140,000, and three months later tried to refi with a normal loan (he got emergency financing- which was over 80% Loan to Value- and probably had a balloon payment) and when the appraisal came in at $185,000 he expected our analysis to be on the $185,000&#8230; NOT!!!!!&#8230;   As far as the lender is concerned, the value is the $140,000, 12 months have to elapse before we consider the new appraised value vs the purchase price.    This guy should have known better, he was an investor, and was now &#8220;occupying&#8221; this house and claimed he made all these improvements, but could not provide documentation.   As long as this type of mentally exists, the industry won&#8217;t get better.  And that short sale affected the neighbors.   He should have put 20% down on the $140,000, then when he was ready to refinance to normal Fannie/Freddie, it would have worked.   The loan officer of this company should have advised this customer right away, so the BS and deception goes on.</p>
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		By: incognito123		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[incognito123]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 20:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If I had MILLIONS to invest, I would not buy one of these properties.  But most don&#039;t know the severity because they are brain washed by the media stating they are minor clerical errors, and people believe that, why I don&#039;t know. With all that has been publicized lately, anyone with half a pulse and brain would have serious doubts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had MILLIONS to invest, I would not buy one of these properties.  But most don&#8217;t know the severity because they are brain washed by the media stating they are minor clerical errors, and people believe that, why I don&#8217;t know. With all that has been publicized lately, anyone with half a pulse and brain would have serious doubts.</p>
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		By: Tim Bryant		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Bryant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 19:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/27/no-sale-foreclosure-homes-in-florida-starting-to-lose-their-appeal/#comment-34629&quot;&gt;SNOWSTORM A.K.A. Susan M. DeSimone&lt;/a&gt;.

No remember, they should be bulldozed....LOL

I haven&#039;t seen Erin Burnett since she made that comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/27/no-sale-foreclosure-homes-in-florida-starting-to-lose-their-appeal/#comment-34629">SNOWSTORM A.K.A. Susan M. DeSimone</a>.</p>
<p>No remember, they should be bulldozed&#8230;.LOL</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen Erin Burnett since she made that comment.</p>
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		By: Pamela		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pamela]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 18:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They also in some states have to sign a adisclosure about the house being a foreclosure so that new home buyers can make a more informed decision.This also applies to short sale as you can only get a title exception instead of title ins.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They also in some states have to sign a adisclosure about the house being a foreclosure so that new home buyers can make a more informed decision.This also applies to short sale as you can only get a title exception instead of title ins.</p>
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		By: SNOWSTORM A.K.A. Susan M. DeSimone		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SNOWSTORM A.K.A. Susan M. DeSimone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 18:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GOOD! Let all the illegally stolen properties DECAY. Just keep spreading the WORD about the Broken Chain of Title.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOOD! Let all the illegally stolen properties DECAY. Just keep spreading the WORD about the Broken Chain of Title.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey K. Willson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey K. Willson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 17:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/27/no-sale-foreclosure-homes-in-florida-starting-to-lose-their-appeal/#comment-34615&quot;&gt;l vent&lt;/a&gt;.

The incompetence of the banks and their foreclosing agents are also blighting these titles after the foreclosure.  Since the banks will only give a special warranty deed many of the same banks do not want to secure a mortgage against the diminished warranty in such title.  Further, many of the properties owned by the banks after foreclosure are attracting various municipal liens and fines.  At least under Florida law such a lien will attach to all the banks property (personal and real) and no property they have for sale should be sold without full disclosure and discharge of the lien.  However the banks appear to be reluctant to manage the discharge of the liens and do not appear to be disclosing these liens.  There may well be a serious fraud going on here on lien holders (municipalities), innocent buyers and title insurance companies.  I cannot understand why the AGs, Insurance Commissioners, OCC, Feds and Financial services commissioners do not insist on total transparency from the national banks so that  this multilevel debacle can be resolved without sending ripples through the market which will take years and put the cost back on the tax payers at state and federal level.  The cost of doing business properly and legally should not be subsidized by the taxpayer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/27/no-sale-foreclosure-homes-in-florida-starting-to-lose-their-appeal/#comment-34615">l vent</a>.</p>
<p>The incompetence of the banks and their foreclosing agents are also blighting these titles after the foreclosure.  Since the banks will only give a special warranty deed many of the same banks do not want to secure a mortgage against the diminished warranty in such title.  Further, many of the properties owned by the banks after foreclosure are attracting various municipal liens and fines.  At least under Florida law such a lien will attach to all the banks property (personal and real) and no property they have for sale should be sold without full disclosure and discharge of the lien.  However the banks appear to be reluctant to manage the discharge of the liens and do not appear to be disclosing these liens.  There may well be a serious fraud going on here on lien holders (municipalities), innocent buyers and title insurance companies.  I cannot understand why the AGs, Insurance Commissioners, OCC, Feds and Financial services commissioners do not insist on total transparency from the national banks so that  this multilevel debacle can be resolved without sending ripples through the market which will take years and put the cost back on the tax payers at state and federal level.  The cost of doing business properly and legally should not be subsidized by the taxpayer.</p>
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		By: l vent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[l vent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 16:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/27/no-sale-foreclosure-homes-in-florida-starting-to-lose-their-appeal/#comment-34607&quot;&gt;Jason Werner&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, people are catching on, everyone but Sarah Palin.  She should have known better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/05/27/no-sale-foreclosure-homes-in-florida-starting-to-lose-their-appeal/#comment-34607">Jason Werner</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, people are catching on, everyone but Sarah Palin.  She should have known better.</p>
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