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		By: r b houseng		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/06/28/george-mantor-robo-signers-a-tangled-web-indeed/#comment-443056</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[r b houseng]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/06/28/george-mantor-robo-signers-a-tangled-web-indeed/#comment-38654&quot;&gt;myles&lt;/a&gt;.

I also have documents signed by Christine Bitanga.  She signed two documents and the signatures do not match.  I would love to shave docs/signatures with you.  Please email me (rbhouseng@hotmail.com)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/06/28/george-mantor-robo-signers-a-tangled-web-indeed/#comment-38654">myles</a>.</p>
<p>I also have documents signed by Christine Bitanga.  She signed two documents and the signatures do not match.  I would love to shave docs/signatures with you.  Please email me (rbhouseng@hotmail.com)</p>
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		By: Dara L. Michaels		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/06/28/george-mantor-robo-signers-a-tangled-web-indeed/#comment-38663</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dara L. Michaels]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2011 02:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is best way to gather the chain of title since the Banks only create documents on an as needed (before or after) basis.  



Do I request a written qualified request..as so far each time I do this route, they send me carbon copies of my loan documents, but not the deed and my loan documents are obviously with either: 

Bear Stearns- Aurora

CWHL Servicing

and non of them state any of the pools which they were sold into - so I am not sure where you get the &#039;REAL&quot; Chain of title information.  Thanks so much.  This has been ongoing for 3-4 years now.  

Been a nightmare to say the least...All loans given in 05-06 (prime time of the &quot; ponzi scheme&quot;)

My loans were given by Countrywide - during the exact time Angelo Mozilo now admits (due an uncovered correspondence) stating he&#039;s not sure how to handle the fall out of this creation -- stated same week his company approved me for 8 million dollars...and took all my 23 years of $$$ which I blindly put into the home/s. 

I need to know more about gaining the chain of title. 



Thanks again for anyone&#039;s feedback on this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is best way to gather the chain of title since the Banks only create documents on an as needed (before or after) basis.  </p>
<p>Do I request a written qualified request..as so far each time I do this route, they send me carbon copies of my loan documents, but not the deed and my loan documents are obviously with either: </p>
<p>Bear Stearns- Aurora</p>
<p>CWHL Servicing</p>
<p>and non of them state any of the pools which they were sold into &#8211; so I am not sure where you get the &#8216;REAL&#8221; Chain of title information.  Thanks so much.  This has been ongoing for 3-4 years now.  </p>
<p>Been a nightmare to say the least&#8230;All loans given in 05-06 (prime time of the &#8221; ponzi scheme&#8221;)</p>
<p>My loans were given by Countrywide &#8211; during the exact time Angelo Mozilo now admits (due an uncovered correspondence) stating he&#8217;s not sure how to handle the fall out of this creation &#8212; stated same week his company approved me for 8 million dollars&#8230;and took all my 23 years of $$$ which I blindly put into the home/s. </p>
<p>I need to know more about gaining the chain of title. </p>
<p>Thanks again for anyone&#8217;s feedback on this.</p>
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		By: George Forfa		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/06/28/george-mantor-robo-signers-a-tangled-web-indeed/#comment-38662</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Forfa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 18:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, this activity is the deepest pile of manure since I heard one of the CNBC talking heads say that he was thinking about teaching his children the Grifting Arts. After all, if they&#039;re going to get good jobs in the financial industry, they should be proficient in the Bait-And-Switch and the Shell Game. We would like to find some humor in these displays of the dark side of human nature, but there isn&#039;t any. To help people sort it out, I wrote &quot;The Four Money Questions&quot;.



  http://georgesblogforum.wordpress.com/2011/06/18/the-four-money-questions/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, this activity is the deepest pile of manure since I heard one of the CNBC talking heads say that he was thinking about teaching his children the Grifting Arts. After all, if they&#8217;re going to get good jobs in the financial industry, they should be proficient in the Bait-And-Switch and the Shell Game. We would like to find some humor in these displays of the dark side of human nature, but there isn&#8217;t any. To help people sort it out, I wrote &#8220;The Four Money Questions&#8221;.</p>
<p>  <a href="http://georgesblogforum.wordpress.com/2011/06/18/the-four-money-questions/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://georgesblogforum.wordpress.com/2011/06/18/the-four-money-questions/</a></p>
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		By: Prosecute the fraud		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Prosecute the fraud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Excellent article, very well written.  Thank you, hopefully this helps more people understand what is going on.  



Let the PROSECUTIONS begin of all the banksters, lawyers and judges who committed and perpetuated this fraud. (raises pitchfork!!!!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent article, very well written.  Thank you, hopefully this helps more people understand what is going on.  </p>
<p>Let the PROSECUTIONS begin of all the banksters, lawyers and judges who committed and perpetuated this fraud. (raises pitchfork!!!!)</p>
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		By: Hell No, No More Bail-OUTS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hell No, No More Bail-OUTS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 07:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/06/28/george-mantor-robo-signers-a-tangled-web-indeed/#comment-38653&quot;&gt;Debbie&lt;/a&gt;.

Gee, I have Litton, Quality, Marti Noriega and even Melissa Bell. 



Now regarding that Melissa Bell notary stamp: She relinquished her commission early  in March of the year that she otherwise would have renewed it (or else it was a &#039;deal&#039; to avoid prosecution).



She was shown to have signed in multiple &#039;hands&#039; with the following variations of the name on the stamp: Melissa Bell (the only valid version)

M Bell

Mel Bell

Bell (the version on my document)



When I first contacted TX, the commission was active but they took note of the varying signatures and were not pleased.



Now strangely, with TX, when a commission is given up early, they modify the &#039;end of commission&#039; field. Unfortunately, they do not train their own staff to avoid this pitfall when people request confirmation of he notary not existing. If you were to go back and contact them again and point out that the commission was apparently ended &#039;early&#039; and ask them to search according to &quot;START of commission&quot; date,  you will find that Melissa Bell DID have a commission.



With the varying signatures, you can bet this gal should be deposed too.



There is just nothing like having a database set up or used incorrectly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/06/28/george-mantor-robo-signers-a-tangled-web-indeed/#comment-38653">Debbie</a>.</p>
<p>Gee, I have Litton, Quality, Marti Noriega and even Melissa Bell. </p>
<p>Now regarding that Melissa Bell notary stamp: She relinquished her commission early  in March of the year that she otherwise would have renewed it (or else it was a &#8216;deal&#8217; to avoid prosecution).</p>
<p>She was shown to have signed in multiple &#8216;hands&#8217; with the following variations of the name on the stamp: Melissa Bell (the only valid version)</p>
<p>M Bell</p>
<p>Mel Bell</p>
<p>Bell (the version on my document)</p>
<p>When I first contacted TX, the commission was active but they took note of the varying signatures and were not pleased.</p>
<p>Now strangely, with TX, when a commission is given up early, they modify the &#8216;end of commission&#8217; field. Unfortunately, they do not train their own staff to avoid this pitfall when people request confirmation of he notary not existing. If you were to go back and contact them again and point out that the commission was apparently ended &#8216;early&#8217; and ask them to search according to &#8220;START of commission&#8221; date,  you will find that Melissa Bell DID have a commission.</p>
<p>With the varying signatures, you can bet this gal should be deposed too.</p>
<p>There is just nothing like having a database set up or used incorrectly.</p>
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		By: Ravs Singh		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/06/28/george-mantor-robo-signers-a-tangled-web-indeed/#comment-38659</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ravs Singh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 06:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/06/28/george-mantor-robo-signers-a-tangled-web-indeed/#comment-38658&quot;&gt;acmodspecialists&lt;/a&gt;.

You are so right. I always quiz that in America if you steal say 100 $ from a shop, and your are caught, you go to jail , and on the other side when you steal some one&#039;s home as part of mortgage and securitization fraud, you are benefitted of millions and there is no jail for you....that is why we have 6 million foreclosures and 9 million more are on the way….In bankruptcy courts, the attorneys make you write your properties as Surrender Property, when the property is  not even owned by such creditors….]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/06/28/george-mantor-robo-signers-a-tangled-web-indeed/#comment-38658">acmodspecialists</a>.</p>
<p>You are so right. I always quiz that in America if you steal say 100 $ from a shop, and your are caught, you go to jail , and on the other side when you steal some one&#8217;s home as part of mortgage and securitization fraud, you are benefitted of millions and there is no jail for you&#8230;.that is why we have 6 million foreclosures and 9 million more are on the way….In bankruptcy courts, the attorneys make you write your properties as Surrender Property, when the property is  not even owned by such creditors….</p>
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		By: acmodspecialists		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[acmodspecialists]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 03:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well done, question, when would anybody go to jail for all this massive fraud? never? ever? is this the new norm in America? rob a penl go to jail rob a house and trillions is ok no jail ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done, question, when would anybody go to jail for all this massive fraud? never? ever? is this the new norm in America? rob a penl go to jail rob a house and trillions is ok no jail ?</p>
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		By: Beth A.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beth A.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 01:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sir, this was an amazingly well written article.  Thank you, thank you!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sir, this was an amazingly well written article.  Thank you, thank you!!</p>
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		By: Ron Moss		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Moss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 23:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What I thought was a legitament law firm can&#039;t trust their own ability, No Contingency fee available]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I thought was a legitament law firm can&#8217;t trust their own ability, No Contingency fee available</p>
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		By: Bekki Watkins		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bekki Watkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gosh, I just love this... I love it when an individual actually &quot;gets it&quot; on this level. Oh and not to mention, can spell it out so dearly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, I just love this&#8230; I love it when an individual actually &#8220;gets it&#8221; on this level. Oh and not to mention, can spell it out so dearly.</p>
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