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		By: lvent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/21/will-innovative-new-financial-regulator-be-hobbled-before-it-even-starts/#comment-42464&quot;&gt;lvent&lt;/a&gt;.

If I did question the appraisal would that have made a difference?  My question is what were the quality of the loans in the loan pool they put us in and how many of those loans were too risky and failed?  They created the bubble,  caused the bubble to burst and it was intentional.  We knew they would possible sell our &quot;loan&quot; off to a second lender but we did not know about the bundling of the loans.  That was the biggest crime here.  I would have never agreed to that, not for one minute.  The credit default swap insurance they aquired is the proof they knew what they were doing was incredibly risky.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/21/will-innovative-new-financial-regulator-be-hobbled-before-it-even-starts/#comment-42464">lvent</a>.</p>
<p>If I did question the appraisal would that have made a difference?  My question is what were the quality of the loans in the loan pool they put us in and how many of those loans were too risky and failed?  They created the bubble,  caused the bubble to burst and it was intentional.  We knew they would possible sell our &#8220;loan&#8221; off to a second lender but we did not know about the bundling of the loans.  That was the biggest crime here.  I would have never agreed to that, not for one minute.  The credit default swap insurance they aquired is the proof they knew what they were doing was incredibly risky.</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/21/will-innovative-new-financial-regulator-be-hobbled-before-it-even-starts/#comment-42442&quot;&gt;Jim Bethea&lt;/a&gt;.

Jim, what about the bundling of  too many UNSECURED bad loans with a fraction of good loans which caused all of the loans in that pool to fail.  That is where the proof of intent to harm is.  They hid that GIANT RISK and packaged those up and sold those as AAA rated. THE LIARS LOANS are also proof of intent to cause harm.  The people did not approve their own loans. It was up to the bank to investigate.  When I bought my house in 1992, it took 4 months to get a mortgage approved with A+ credit and $100,000 dollars down on a $290,000.00 home.  When we re-fied in 2007 it took 2 weeks to get approved though we still fully qualified for the re-fi but I knew the house value appraisal was way to high and the comps they used did not even come close to our house..Not one house they comped with ours was valued anywhere near what our house appraised out at.  What we did not know was they were doing a PONZI SCHEME with home &quot;loans&quot; but the average person could have never known this though there were warning signs we trusted too much and had no reason not to..There were no protections for consumers and the &quot;lenders&quot; used the weapon of gaining our trust to deceive us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/21/will-innovative-new-financial-regulator-be-hobbled-before-it-even-starts/#comment-42442">Jim Bethea</a>.</p>
<p>Jim, what about the bundling of  too many UNSECURED bad loans with a fraction of good loans which caused all of the loans in that pool to fail.  That is where the proof of intent to harm is.  They hid that GIANT RISK and packaged those up and sold those as AAA rated. THE LIARS LOANS are also proof of intent to cause harm.  The people did not approve their own loans. It was up to the bank to investigate.  When I bought my house in 1992, it took 4 months to get a mortgage approved with A+ credit and $100,000 dollars down on a $290,000.00 home.  When we re-fied in 2007 it took 2 weeks to get approved though we still fully qualified for the re-fi but I knew the house value appraisal was way to high and the comps they used did not even come close to our house..Not one house they comped with ours was valued anywhere near what our house appraised out at.  What we did not know was they were doing a PONZI SCHEME with home &#8220;loans&#8221; but the average person could have never known this though there were warning signs we trusted too much and had no reason not to..There were no protections for consumers and the &#8220;lenders&#8221; used the weapon of gaining our trust to deceive us.</p>
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		By: Jim Bethea		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Bethea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 17:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have been dealing with these illegal bank promissory notes and mortgages notes for almost 12 years now and it is so easy for me to spot the fraud in the factum ~ constructive fraud ~ forgeries ~ etc

Give me any of the contract forms used by the banks that are approved by the Fed Res and Fannie Mae and I will point-out to anyone from the lowest one with 24 violations to Bank of Am&#039;s with 31 violations of contract law.....

The constructive fraud element is where the had full and prior  knowledge of this fraud when these contracts were drafted to be used by millions of loan originators [most of the lower levels did have a clue, just doing what they were told to do] but the really criminal part is when they get the consumer to agree to these terms [which many attorneys cannot decode] so you become a party to these crimes yourself???

Kinda like the credit card agreements which are totally &quot;QUASI COMTRACTS&quot; [meaning take it or leave it] and Congress allows the cc companies to continue to use these documents that are enudated with fraud and violations of contract law??

If the banking regulators [what a crook] the attorney generals, the banksters attorneys, the judges or any juror [if you are lucky enough to have requested one] cannot find anything wrong with these promissory or mortgage notes, then send them to me and I will hi-lite them at no fee..........lol

The 100 year old web of deceipt. theft and extortion has made the Rothschild Dynasty rich beyond any mathematical measures, as well as, all of the other crooks that have been and are now involved...

The Bible states that there will at a time so needed that it will be called the Day of Jubilee when all encroached and stolen lands will be returned to the rightful owners...........]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been dealing with these illegal bank promissory notes and mortgages notes for almost 12 years now and it is so easy for me to spot the fraud in the factum ~ constructive fraud ~ forgeries ~ etc</p>
<p>Give me any of the contract forms used by the banks that are approved by the Fed Res and Fannie Mae and I will point-out to anyone from the lowest one with 24 violations to Bank of Am&#8217;s with 31 violations of contract law&#8230;..</p>
<p>The constructive fraud element is where the had full and prior  knowledge of this fraud when these contracts were drafted to be used by millions of loan originators [most of the lower levels did have a clue, just doing what they were told to do] but the really criminal part is when they get the consumer to agree to these terms [which many attorneys cannot decode] so you become a party to these crimes yourself???</p>
<p>Kinda like the credit card agreements which are totally &#8220;QUASI COMTRACTS&#8221; [meaning take it or leave it] and Congress allows the cc companies to continue to use these documents that are enudated with fraud and violations of contract law??</p>
<p>If the banking regulators [what a crook] the attorney generals, the banksters attorneys, the judges or any juror [if you are lucky enough to have requested one] cannot find anything wrong with these promissory or mortgage notes, then send them to me and I will hi-lite them at no fee&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.lol</p>
<p>The 100 year old web of deceipt. theft and extortion has made the Rothschild Dynasty rich beyond any mathematical measures, as well as, all of the other crooks that have been and are now involved&#8230;</p>
<p>The Bible states that there will at a time so needed that it will be called the Day of Jubilee when all encroached and stolen lands will be returned to the rightful owners&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		By: i SO TIRED		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[i SO TIRED]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[YES MADE TO SOUND LIKE 3 YR OLD BECA-- USE THAT IS HOW THEY ALL MAKE ME FEEL.  WE CANT DO THIS WE CANT DO THAT SO WHY be??????????????????????????   AT ALL.  WE STILL NOT GET HELP.  ALOT OF OUR TROUBLES TARTED WITH THE MORTGAGE BROKERS....HELLO  mcfly.     IF THE WELLS FARGO MORGTAGE BROKERS LIED ON MORTGAE APPLICATIONS FOR SSUBPRIME MORTGGES WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY DID ON CONVENTIONAL MORTGAGES.   TOLD THE TRUTH?????    ONE PERSON WORKING, SPO-- USE UNEMPLOYED  we should have been denied.  that would have been ok it was 2006  there is something called renting.  my husband got a job late on but my SALARY WAS NOT WHAT SHE QUOTED ON MY APPLICATION.  AFTER GOING THROUGH MORTGAGE MODIFICATION HELL WITH WELLS FARGO THEN HAVING HAMP FILE MOVED AND MY PAPER WORK LOST  LOOKED INTO WHY.  AND FOUND ALL MY MORTGAGE PAPERS.  THERE IT WAS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE STACK  AND OF COURSE JUST LIKE ALL MY OTHER PEPERS UNSIGNED  MY MORTGAGE APPLICATION.  SHE ADDED ABOUT 700$ TO WHAT I COULD HAVE POSSIBLY MADE IN A WEEK. SEE IT WAS EASY FOR HER.  I WAS OUT OF TOWN AND I WAS AN HOURLY EMPPLOYEE.  FEW HOURS HERE A FEW HOURS THERE.  I AM PN THE NOTE NOT MY HUSBAND.  COULD NOT AFFORD THE HO-- USE FROM THE SIGNING AND SHE NEW IT.  WE STRUGGLED AND THIS IS THE OUTCOME WAITING FOR FORECLOSURE.   SO NOT SURE HOW THEY THINK WELLS FARG IS IMMUNE TO THE OTHER LOANS THEY WROTE.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES MADE TO SOUND LIKE 3 YR OLD BECA&#8211; USE THAT IS HOW THEY ALL MAKE ME FEEL.  WE CANT DO THIS WE CANT DO THAT SO WHY be??????????????????????????   AT ALL.  WE STILL NOT GET HELP.  ALOT OF OUR TROUBLES TARTED WITH THE MORTGAGE BROKERS&#8230;.HELLO  mcfly.     IF THE WELLS FARGO MORGTAGE BROKERS LIED ON MORTGAE APPLICATIONS FOR SSUBPRIME MORTGGES WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY DID ON CONVENTIONAL MORTGAGES.   TOLD THE TRUTH?????    ONE PERSON WORKING, SPO&#8211; USE UNEMPLOYED  we should have been denied.  that would have been ok it was 2006  there is something called renting.  my husband got a job late on but my SALARY WAS NOT WHAT SHE QUOTED ON MY APPLICATION.  AFTER GOING THROUGH MORTGAGE MODIFICATION HELL WITH WELLS FARGO THEN HAVING HAMP FILE MOVED AND MY PAPER WORK LOST  LOOKED INTO WHY.  AND FOUND ALL MY MORTGAGE PAPERS.  THERE IT WAS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE STACK  AND OF COURSE JUST LIKE ALL MY OTHER PEPERS UNSIGNED  MY MORTGAGE APPLICATION.  SHE ADDED ABOUT 700$ TO WHAT I COULD HAVE POSSIBLY MADE IN A WEEK. SEE IT WAS EASY FOR HER.  I WAS OUT OF TOWN AND I WAS AN HOURLY EMPPLOYEE.  FEW HOURS HERE A FEW HOURS THERE.  I AM PN THE NOTE NOT MY HUSBAND.  COULD NOT AFFORD THE HO&#8211; USE FROM THE SIGNING AND SHE NEW IT.  WE STRUGGLED AND THIS IS THE OUTCOME WAITING FOR FORECLOSURE.   SO NOT SURE HOW THEY THINK WELLS FARG IS IMMUNE TO THE OTHER LOANS THEY WROTE.</p>
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		By: Ron Moss		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron Moss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 13:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike; Thanks again for your steadfastnessand loyalty to truth. May your people rise up to appreciate what you are doing. That last download made me sick and I am glad for Bank of Italy. America. And. i hope Deutsche gets a fine of atlesast $300,000,,000 fdor starters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike; Thanks again for your steadfastnessand loyalty to truth. May your people rise up to appreciate what you are doing. That last download made me sick and I am glad for Bank of Italy. America. And. i hope Deutsche gets a fine of atlesast $300,000,,000 fdor starters.</p>
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