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	Comments on: GMAC, Stephan, US Bank, Fraudclosure &#124; Supreme Court AFFIRMS Homeowners VICTORY in U.S. Bank National Association, v. Christine Kimball	</title>
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		By: To tell The Truth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[To tell The Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/25/gmac-stephan-us-bank-fraudclosure-supreme-court-affirms-homeowners-victory-in-u-s-bank-national-association-v-christine-kimball/#comment-44742&quot;&gt;eif&lt;/a&gt;.

Does this mean that once a case is dismissed without prejudice that it can be tried again and if once again dismissed without prejudice it cannot be tried again by the same people?

And does it matter how long in between the two filings?
 Is there a statute of limitation once a case is dismissed without prejudice to re instate or bring a new case by the same plaintiff?
Thanks for the answers...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/25/gmac-stephan-us-bank-fraudclosure-supreme-court-affirms-homeowners-victory-in-u-s-bank-national-association-v-christine-kimball/#comment-44742">eif</a>.</p>
<p>Does this mean that once a case is dismissed without prejudice that it can be tried again and if once again dismissed without prejudice it cannot be tried again by the same people?</p>
<p>And does it matter how long in between the two filings?<br />
 Is there a statute of limitation once a case is dismissed without prejudice to re instate or bring a new case by the same plaintiff?<br />
Thanks for the answers&#8230;</p>
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		By: Stupendous Man - Defender of Liberty, Foe of Tyranny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stupendous Man - Defender of Liberty, Foe of Tyranny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Note also the reference to rule 56(g). I don&#039;t think the importance of this can be over stated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note also the reference to rule 56(g). I don&#8217;t think the importance of this can be over stated.</p>
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		By: Scotty Simpson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scotty Simpson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 01:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/25/gmac-stephan-us-bank-fraudclosure-supreme-court-affirms-homeowners-victory-in-u-s-bank-national-association-v-christine-kimball/#comment-44569&quot;&gt;Snowstorm&lt;/a&gt;.

She won, now the bank goes back and get them some forged douments then starts all over
againg with a new foreclosure. They will have their eyes dotted and all their T&#039;s crossed
then take that this home away from that poor women. that is the American way, the rich get
richer the poor get poorer. I would suggest she get an Forensic Securitization audit tio
show the court the chain of title.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/25/gmac-stephan-us-bank-fraudclosure-supreme-court-affirms-homeowners-victory-in-u-s-bank-national-association-v-christine-kimball/#comment-44569">Snowstorm</a>.</p>
<p>She won, now the bank goes back and get them some forged douments then starts all over<br />
againg with a new foreclosure. They will have their eyes dotted and all their T&#8217;s crossed<br />
then take that this home away from that poor women. that is the American way, the rich get<br />
richer the poor get poorer. I would suggest she get an Forensic Securitization audit tio<br />
show the court the chain of title.</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/25/gmac-stephan-us-bank-fraudclosure-supreme-court-affirms-homeowners-victory-in-u-s-bank-national-association-v-christine-kimball/#comment-44752</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 00:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/25/gmac-stephan-us-bank-fraudclosure-supreme-court-affirms-homeowners-victory-in-u-s-bank-national-association-v-christine-kimball/#comment-44582&quot;&gt;TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FRAUD&lt;/a&gt;.

FRAUDCLOSURE COURT IS A FEDERAL CRIME SCENE.........................]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/25/gmac-stephan-us-bank-fraudclosure-supreme-court-affirms-homeowners-victory-in-u-s-bank-national-association-v-christine-kimball/#comment-44582">TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FRAUD</a>.</p>
<p>FRAUDCLOSURE COURT IS A FEDERAL CRIME SCENE&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jul 2011 00:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/25/gmac-stephan-us-bank-fraudclosure-supreme-court-affirms-homeowners-victory-in-u-s-bank-national-association-v-christine-kimball/#comment-44582&quot;&gt;TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FRAUD&lt;/a&gt;.

WOW, JUDGES ARE ALLOWING PRETENDER LENDERS  to FRAUDCLOSE and STEAL peoples homes on CLOUDY TITLES in civil court with FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS  on UNSECURE DEBTS and the homeowners do not know this....I believe that is  UNFAIR DEALING AND DECEPTIVE PRACTICES BY  THE PRETENDER LENDERS AND THE JUDGES ARE ALLOWING FEDERAL CRIMES TO BE COMMITTED IN CIVIL COURT???.... SHOULDN&#039;T THE PRETENDER LENDERS AT LEAST BE _FORCED_ TO SAY;   THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO COLLECT AN _UNSECURED_ DEBT????????????????????.WHAT THESE JUDGES ARE ALLOWING THESE PRETENDER LENDERS TO DO TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE  IS DESPICABLE...AND THERE ARE NO LAWYERS WHO WILL TELL PEOPLE THE TRUTH.....THE PEOPLE ARE LAMBS BEING LEAD TO THEIR OWN  SLAUGHTER...THIS IS CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE BY THESE JUDGES.  THESE JUDGES ARE AIDING AND ABETTING A CRIME..........]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/25/gmac-stephan-us-bank-fraudclosure-supreme-court-affirms-homeowners-victory-in-u-s-bank-national-association-v-christine-kimball/#comment-44582">TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FRAUD</a>.</p>
<p>WOW, JUDGES ARE ALLOWING PRETENDER LENDERS  to FRAUDCLOSE and STEAL peoples homes on CLOUDY TITLES in civil court with FRAUDULENT DOCUMENTS  on UNSECURE DEBTS and the homeowners do not know this&#8230;.I believe that is  UNFAIR DEALING AND DECEPTIVE PRACTICES BY  THE PRETENDER LENDERS AND THE JUDGES ARE ALLOWING FEDERAL CRIMES TO BE COMMITTED IN CIVIL COURT???&#8230;. SHOULDN&#8217;T THE PRETENDER LENDERS AT LEAST BE _FORCED_ TO SAY;   THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO COLLECT AN _UNSECURED_ DEBT????????????????????.WHAT THESE JUDGES ARE ALLOWING THESE PRETENDER LENDERS TO DO TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE  IS DESPICABLE&#8230;AND THERE ARE NO LAWYERS WHO WILL TELL PEOPLE THE TRUTH&#8230;..THE PEOPLE ARE LAMBS BEING LEAD TO THEIR OWN  SLAUGHTER&#8230;THIS IS CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE BY THESE JUDGES.  THESE JUDGES ARE AIDING AND ABETTING A CRIME&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		By: eif		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eif]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 23:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/25/gmac-stephan-us-bank-fraudclosure-supreme-court-affirms-homeowners-victory-in-u-s-bank-national-association-v-christine-kimball/#comment-44569&quot;&gt;Snowstorm&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi and as was said earlier,  &#039;dismissed without prejudice&#039;  would&#039;ve  let the same plaintiff try again. So &#039;dismissed with prejudice&#039; is better even if just about plaintiff not being the right entity to have legal standing to bring suit.  And maybe the entity with standing won&#039;t be found, won&#039;t file foreclosure.

So, it this how you see it -  here it just means this &#039;particular plaintiff cannot come back - but  it doesn&#039;t mean with prejudice on the merits; as said before here, foreclosure might start again with a different plaintiff and the case go further ... into merits discussion..   

Of course even and all local  victories are important and draw attention to the content and process.  But this kind of situation may be the pause that refreshes, but a pause not a cure; check this out please, it&#039;s as mentioned here before; corrections welcomed.  

elders.in.foreclosure@gmail.com .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/25/gmac-stephan-us-bank-fraudclosure-supreme-court-affirms-homeowners-victory-in-u-s-bank-national-association-v-christine-kimball/#comment-44569">Snowstorm</a>.</p>
<p>Hi and as was said earlier,  &#8216;dismissed without prejudice&#8217;  would&#8217;ve  let the same plaintiff try again. So &#8216;dismissed with prejudice&#8217; is better even if just about plaintiff not being the right entity to have legal standing to bring suit.  And maybe the entity with standing won&#8217;t be found, won&#8217;t file foreclosure.</p>
<p>So, it this how you see it &#8211;  here it just means this &#8216;particular plaintiff cannot come back &#8211; but  it doesn&#8217;t mean with prejudice on the merits; as said before here, foreclosure might start again with a different plaintiff and the case go further &#8230; into merits discussion..   </p>
<p>Of course even and all local  victories are important and draw attention to the content and process.  But this kind of situation may be the pause that refreshes, but a pause not a cure; check this out please, it&#8217;s as mentioned here before; corrections welcomed.  </p>
<p><a href="mailto:elders.in.foreclosure@gmail.com">elders.in.foreclosure@gmail.com</a> .</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/25/gmac-stephan-us-bank-fraudclosure-supreme-court-affirms-homeowners-victory-in-u-s-bank-national-association-v-christine-kimball/#comment-44572&quot;&gt;Snowstorm&lt;/a&gt;.

WIDESPREAD DECEPTIVE PRACTICES AND UNFAIR DEALING..MILLIONS OF AMERICAN HOMEOWNERS,  DO NOT KNOW THEIR RIGHTS OR THE LAWS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT THEM......THE TRUTH IS BEING HIDDEN.  EVEN THE LAWYERS WON&#039;T TELL THE PEOPLE THE TRUTH AND I HAVE EXPERIECED THIS FIRST HAND.  TIME FOR A  NATIONWIDE MORATORIUM ON FRAUDCLOSURES.  SOME IN THE KNOW ARE SAYING THAT MORATORIUM NEEDS TO BE FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS PONZI SCHEME MESS.   THE PLAYING FIELD MUST BE LEVELED FOR THE PEOPLE. THE INNOCENT VICTIMS OF FORECLOSUREGATE.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/25/gmac-stephan-us-bank-fraudclosure-supreme-court-affirms-homeowners-victory-in-u-s-bank-national-association-v-christine-kimball/#comment-44572">Snowstorm</a>.</p>
<p>WIDESPREAD DECEPTIVE PRACTICES AND UNFAIR DEALING..MILLIONS OF AMERICAN HOMEOWNERS,  DO NOT KNOW THEIR RIGHTS OR THE LAWS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT THEM&#8230;&#8230;THE TRUTH IS BEING HIDDEN.  EVEN THE LAWYERS WON&#8217;T TELL THE PEOPLE THE TRUTH AND I HAVE EXPERIECED THIS FIRST HAND.  TIME FOR A  NATIONWIDE MORATORIUM ON FRAUDCLOSURES.  SOME IN THE KNOW ARE SAYING THAT MORATORIUM NEEDS TO BE FOR AT LEAST 10 YEARS TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS PONZI SCHEME MESS.   THE PLAYING FIELD MUST BE LEVELED FOR THE PEOPLE. THE INNOCENT VICTIMS OF FORECLOSUREGATE&#8230;..</p>
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		By: TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FRAUD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FRAUD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This decision has great information for those who are literate enough in law to read and understand the twist and turns and that know the Court Rules regardless of the law and take the time to completely read any cited case law and not rely on or take out of context statements as quoted.

Legal writings are very much different than ordinary law writings.

Due process is the Law and without due process there is no lawful decision as compliance with the rules is mandated for specific performance.

This decision needs to be passed on to anyone involved in a foreclosure as it is a treasure trove of information vital to defeating foreclosure filed by those banksters that lack standing - regardless of the issues of dirty hands and not having clean hands before the bench when attorneys are incompetent and or purposely commit fraud upon the court with such idiotic and defective and fatally flawed affidavits!

Michael-Lynn @ The &quot;MIXED WAR&quot; Room and The Trials of Life]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This decision has great information for those who are literate enough in law to read and understand the twist and turns and that know the Court Rules regardless of the law and take the time to completely read any cited case law and not rely on or take out of context statements as quoted.</p>
<p>Legal writings are very much different than ordinary law writings.</p>
<p>Due process is the Law and without due process there is no lawful decision as compliance with the rules is mandated for specific performance.</p>
<p>This decision needs to be passed on to anyone involved in a foreclosure as it is a treasure trove of information vital to defeating foreclosure filed by those banksters that lack standing &#8211; regardless of the issues of dirty hands and not having clean hands before the bench when attorneys are incompetent and or purposely commit fraud upon the court with such idiotic and defective and fatally flawed affidavits!</p>
<p>Michael-Lynn @ The &#8220;MIXED WAR&#8221; Room and The Trials of Life</p>
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		By: Snowstorm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snowstorm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[YES, I agree Glenn. However, how about the FEDERAL LAW on DIRTY HANDS. If you come into court with Fraudulent Documents, whether you are entitled to a &quot;WIN&quot; or NOT ,,,,, YOU LOSE. UNDER THE FEDERAL UNCLEAN HANDS ACT.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES, I agree Glenn. However, how about the FEDERAL LAW on DIRTY HANDS. If you come into court with Fraudulent Documents, whether you are entitled to a &#8220;WIN&#8221; or NOT ,,,,, YOU LOSE. UNDER THE FEDERAL UNCLEAN HANDS ACT.</p>
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		By: Snowstorm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snowstorm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 16:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yea, IT all sounded terrific &#039;till the end. No.6 it states that two cases by the homeowners with rulings &quot;Dismissed with Prejudice&quot; have been REVERSED??  Am I reading this correctly? or is it the BANKS won and the homeowner got it reversed?? Confused?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, IT all sounded terrific &#8217;till the end. No.6 it states that two cases by the homeowners with rulings &#8220;Dismissed with Prejudice&#8221; have been REVERSED??  Am I reading this correctly? or is it the BANKS won and the homeowner got it reversed?? Confused?</p>
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