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	Comments on: FL 1st DCA Fraudclosure Reversed &#124; Mazine v. M&#038;I Bank &#8220;None of the Requirements for Admission of a Business Record Were Met&#8221;	</title>
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		By: marilyn lane		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marilyn lane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55002&quot;&gt;Dave8040&lt;/a&gt;.

To Mr Bankster&#039;

We know how you run your business. You can&#039;t fool us any longer


The abominable banking system that is in place today, gives a bank great incentive to foreclose on an Ultra Vires contract, as the bank demands lawful money returned for the unlawful money lent.

By what Authority are the Banks doing this? There is no authority for doing this.  This is in complete prohibition to Art 1 Para 10 Cl1 of our US Constitution.

All of our cases with slightly different facts all stem from the same Fraud.
The Bank did not lend you ‘LAWFUL MONEY” but the Bank intentionally wrote
a “bad check” and gave it to you –to circulate as “money”

I certainly did not know this kind of fraud wass going on when I signed my mortgage and note. Did you?



The Mortgagor puts up a down payment, the Mortgagor pays a lot of fees and probably paid an attorney to represent them, all in order to get this “bad check”

Would a Mortgagor have put in all that money, if one knew the truth of how the Banks ran their illegal business.  I bet not.

Did anyone notify you after that big day – the Bank’s check bounced – of course not.  When the check that the Bank wrote came back to the Bank that wrote it, the bank didn’t say “we only have 5% , if that much and it was not stamped “insufficient funds” the bank stamped it “paid”

So since the Bank did not have the money sitting in the bank’s account  when they wrote the check, what the bank gave you is their credit.

That is exactly what is prohibited by Art. 1 Para 10 Cl 1 of the US Constitution.

What authority gives the Bank the right to make contracts with “bad checks”

   Nothing- Nada.

“Lawful money” is needed to make a contract valid.

Over and Over Mortgagors gave a Bank a mortgage on their castle , in return for a Bank giving you a credit entry on their books and charging you Interest on this credit. Also illegal.

Did the Bank give you lawful money or is that what you got, credit?

Banks are not allowed to lend their credit- Banks are in the business to lend 
“lawful money”  There is not a Bank charter that allows a Bank to lend their credit.

And as we continued to make monthly payments the Bank collected more money on their fraud.

You try writing a check when you don’t have funds sitting in your account to cover it.
You can be sure that check is coming back marked”insufficient funds”  You are not allowed to do it and either is a Bank.

This scam of Ultra Vire contracts caused injury to us, the true homeowners.  

In addition the banks are laundering “bad checks”.

The Banks violate Truth in Lending Laws. 

The Banks are collecting Interest on money that doesn’t exist. (Lending you 5% and collecting Interest on 95% of thin air)

And once the Bank gets their Ultra Vire contract going, they start flipping them to MERS, Securitizations , Wall Street, Title Companies etc.  there is no shortage of people all wanting to get their piece of the illegal profits. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55002">Dave8040</a>.</p>
<p>To Mr Bankster&#8217;</p>
<p>We know how you run your business. You can&#8217;t fool us any longer</p>
<p>The abominable banking system that is in place today, gives a bank great incentive to foreclose on an Ultra Vires contract, as the bank demands lawful money returned for the unlawful money lent.</p>
<p>By what Authority are the Banks doing this? There is no authority for doing this.  This is in complete prohibition to Art 1 Para 10 Cl1 of our US Constitution.</p>
<p>All of our cases with slightly different facts all stem from the same Fraud.<br />
The Bank did not lend you ‘LAWFUL MONEY” but the Bank intentionally wrote<br />
a “bad check” and gave it to you –to circulate as “money”</p>
<p>I certainly did not know this kind of fraud wass going on when I signed my mortgage and note. Did you?</p>
<p>The Mortgagor puts up a down payment, the Mortgagor pays a lot of fees and probably paid an attorney to represent them, all in order to get this “bad check”</p>
<p>Would a Mortgagor have put in all that money, if one knew the truth of how the Banks ran their illegal business.  I bet not.</p>
<p>Did anyone notify you after that big day – the Bank’s check bounced – of course not.  When the check that the Bank wrote came back to the Bank that wrote it, the bank didn’t say “we only have 5% , if that much and it was not stamped “insufficient funds” the bank stamped it “paid”</p>
<p>So since the Bank did not have the money sitting in the bank’s account  when they wrote the check, what the bank gave you is their credit.</p>
<p>That is exactly what is prohibited by Art. 1 Para 10 Cl 1 of the US Constitution.</p>
<p>What authority gives the Bank the right to make contracts with “bad checks”</p>
<p>   Nothing- Nada.</p>
<p>“Lawful money” is needed to make a contract valid.</p>
<p>Over and Over Mortgagors gave a Bank a mortgage on their castle , in return for a Bank giving you a credit entry on their books and charging you Interest on this credit. Also illegal.</p>
<p>Did the Bank give you lawful money or is that what you got, credit?</p>
<p>Banks are not allowed to lend their credit- Banks are in the business to lend<br />
“lawful money”  There is not a Bank charter that allows a Bank to lend their credit.</p>
<p>And as we continued to make monthly payments the Bank collected more money on their fraud.</p>
<p>You try writing a check when you don’t have funds sitting in your account to cover it.<br />
You can be sure that check is coming back marked”insufficient funds”  You are not allowed to do it and either is a Bank.</p>
<p>This scam of Ultra Vire contracts caused injury to us, the true homeowners.  </p>
<p>In addition the banks are laundering “bad checks”.</p>
<p>The Banks violate Truth in Lending Laws. </p>
<p>The Banks are collecting Interest on money that doesn’t exist. (Lending you 5% and collecting Interest on 95% of thin air)</p>
<p>And once the Bank gets their Ultra Vire contract going, they start flipping them to MERS, Securitizations , Wall Street, Title Companies etc.  there is no shortage of people all wanting to get their piece of the illegal profits.<br />
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		By: lvent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 00:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-56842&quot;&gt;housemanrob&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly Rob, The pretender lenders gained our trust and used a wide variety of deceptive practices and unfair dealing to hide from us the fact  we were lending them our signatures to allow WALL STREET to create hundreds of trillions in wealth for themselves and the top 2%. Then after that swindle and the intentional stock market collapse where they stole all of our wealth out of the markets and hid it in overseas bank accounts they got Hank Paulson and Congress to swindle all of us, THE ONLY VICTIMS OF THEIR PONZI SCHEME,  into bailing them out using terrorist threats, like the whole world was going to end, and so they and their foreign investor minions and cohorts all got paid very well again for our swindle and robbery. And they called all of us the deadbeats and the dirty bastards still are.. It was a Nazi plan and blame the victim is a Nazi tactic...Now they still want to steal homes they don&#039;t own and never did???  Not only are they all greedy pigs but they are all very ungrateful too....!!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-56842">housemanrob</a>.</p>
<p>Exactly Rob, The pretender lenders gained our trust and used a wide variety of deceptive practices and unfair dealing to hide from us the fact  we were lending them our signatures to allow WALL STREET to create hundreds of trillions in wealth for themselves and the top 2%. Then after that swindle and the intentional stock market collapse where they stole all of our wealth out of the markets and hid it in overseas bank accounts they got Hank Paulson and Congress to swindle all of us, THE ONLY VICTIMS OF THEIR PONZI SCHEME,  into bailing them out using terrorist threats, like the whole world was going to end, and so they and their foreign investor minions and cohorts all got paid very well again for our swindle and robbery. And they called all of us the deadbeats and the dirty bastards still are.. It was a Nazi plan and blame the victim is a Nazi tactic&#8230;Now they still want to steal homes they don&#8217;t own and never did???  Not only are they all greedy pigs but they are all very ungrateful too&#8230;.!!!!!!</p>
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		By: housemanrob		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-56842</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[housemanrob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 23:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-54210&quot;&gt;Dave8040&lt;/a&gt;.

Banks don&#039;t fund loans stupid Dave.........homeowners do! Do you know anything?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-54210">Dave8040</a>.</p>
<p>Banks don&#8217;t fund loans stupid Dave&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;homeowners do! Do you know anything?</p>
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		By: chunga		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-56494</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chunga]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55002&quot;&gt;Dave8040&lt;/a&gt;.


Take the challenge Mr. Pinstripe. Do it.


We&#039;re reaching financial Omega. You are running out of time.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55002">Dave8040</a>.</p>
<p>Take the challenge Mr. Pinstripe. Do it.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re reaching financial Omega. You are running out of time.</p>
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		By: housemanrob		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-56492</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[housemanrob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55002&quot;&gt;Dave8040&lt;/a&gt;.

What note are you talking about...............THEY ABSOLUTELY DO NOT EXIST.............just computer generations!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55002">Dave8040</a>.</p>
<p>What note are you talking about&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;THEY ABSOLUTELY DO NOT EXIST&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.just computer generations!</p>
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		By: Michael Olenick		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-56490</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Olenick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55002&quot;&gt;Dave8040&lt;/a&gt;.

$20 trillion in bailout money.  $20,000,000,000,000 dollars, and you have the GALL to argue that debtors think THEY&#039;RE owed something.

Let&#039;s repeat that number: $20,000,000,000,000 in bank subsidies.

$20,000,000,000,000 for BANKS.  $20,000,000,000,000 for YOU.

For debtors .. $0.  Nothing.  Don&#039;t give me crap about HAMP, the program that paid servicers to &quot;consider&quot; a modification.  HAMP was a servicer giveaway.  $20,000,000,000,000 for banks.  ZERO for borrowers.

$20,000,000,000,000 for worthless, incompetent, irresponsible, dishonest bankers.

Here&#039;s what SHOULD have happened, and still might.  YOU and your employer should have been forced into liquidation in 2008.  Those notes should have been sold at auction for a few cents on the dollars.  The note buyers could and would have renegotiated to FMV, because they&#039;d receive less in foreclosure.  THAT&#039;S the free market.  

What YOU and your buddies have done is pervert the US economic system into some unrecognizable MESS that me, my children, the children they&#039;ll someday hopefully have -- that all American children for a very long time -- will be paying back.  All that&#039;s ignoring the fraud-fest you unleashed to perfect your scam.

So shut up self-righteous PR flack.  You and the crooks you work for have DESTROYED THE COUNTRY.  Not us .. Y*O*U.  Feel happy you got your mega-bailout, and you&#039;re still getting them ($5.1 BILLION more for &quot;private companies&quot; Fannie and Freddie LAST MONTH ALONE).  BOA just got a sweetheart deal but it doesn&#039;t matter; they&#039;re so poorly managed they&#039;re begging Arab oil barons for a $15 billion recapitalization; hopefully they&#039;ll get it, because the sheiks are likely to lose their shirts.

Want to see hard stats from big record sets?  Ask me.  Want to see a timeline?  Ask Michael.  Want to see the people you&#039;ve run over?  Ask Lisa.  Want to see irrefutable proof on the property and court records?  Ask Lynn.  Want to talk about the violence you&#039;ve done to the legal system.  Ask Matt.  But don&#039;t DARE to show up here and disparage the tiny number of people that are trying to restore the free market, to save the US legal system, and to build even the tiniest resemblance of balance about how justice and markets work -- especially while collecting a fat corporate welfare funded paycheck.

[Michael R .. feel free to re-post this rant as an entire post, adding to it if you feel like.]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55002">Dave8040</a>.</p>
<p>$20 trillion in bailout money.  $20,000,000,000,000 dollars, and you have the GALL to argue that debtors think THEY&#8217;RE owed something.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s repeat that number: $20,000,000,000,000 in bank subsidies.</p>
<p>$20,000,000,000,000 for BANKS.  $20,000,000,000,000 for YOU.</p>
<p>For debtors .. $0.  Nothing.  Don&#8217;t give me crap about HAMP, the program that paid servicers to &#8220;consider&#8221; a modification.  HAMP was a servicer giveaway.  $20,000,000,000,000 for banks.  ZERO for borrowers.</p>
<p>$20,000,000,000,000 for worthless, incompetent, irresponsible, dishonest bankers.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what SHOULD have happened, and still might.  YOU and your employer should have been forced into liquidation in 2008.  Those notes should have been sold at auction for a few cents on the dollars.  The note buyers could and would have renegotiated to FMV, because they&#8217;d receive less in foreclosure.  THAT&#8217;S the free market.  </p>
<p>What YOU and your buddies have done is pervert the US economic system into some unrecognizable MESS that me, my children, the children they&#8217;ll someday hopefully have &#8212; that all American children for a very long time &#8212; will be paying back.  All that&#8217;s ignoring the fraud-fest you unleashed to perfect your scam.</p>
<p>So shut up self-righteous PR flack.  You and the crooks you work for have DESTROYED THE COUNTRY.  Not us .. Y*O*U.  Feel happy you got your mega-bailout, and you&#8217;re still getting them ($5.1 BILLION more for &#8220;private companies&#8221; Fannie and Freddie LAST MONTH ALONE).  BOA just got a sweetheart deal but it doesn&#8217;t matter; they&#8217;re so poorly managed they&#8217;re begging Arab oil barons for a $15 billion recapitalization; hopefully they&#8217;ll get it, because the sheiks are likely to lose their shirts.</p>
<p>Want to see hard stats from big record sets?  Ask me.  Want to see a timeline?  Ask Michael.  Want to see the people you&#8217;ve run over?  Ask Lisa.  Want to see irrefutable proof on the property and court records?  Ask Lynn.  Want to talk about the violence you&#8217;ve done to the legal system.  Ask Matt.  But don&#8217;t DARE to show up here and disparage the tiny number of people that are trying to restore the free market, to save the US legal system, and to build even the tiniest resemblance of balance about how justice and markets work &#8212; especially while collecting a fat corporate welfare funded paycheck.</p>
<p>[Michael R .. feel free to re-post this rant as an entire post, adding to it if you feel like.]</p>
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		By: housemanrob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[housemanrob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55002&quot;&gt;Dave8040&lt;/a&gt;.

And Dave, One more thing...............FUCK YOU!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55002">Dave8040</a>.</p>
<p>And Dave, One more thing&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;FUCK YOU!!</p>
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		By: 4closureFraud		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[4closureFraud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55002&quot;&gt;Dave8040&lt;/a&gt;.

So, Mr Bankster shill, you want to pick a fight?

You got one.

I hereby challenge you to a radio duel on your opinion vs mine.

You claim the borrowers are defrauding the lenders and I say the opposite. Instead of writing your childish rants on this site, join me for a debate on our radio show, Citizen Warriors WDJA 1420, live to discuss the topic.

I will have a panel of three and you may have the same. In order to proceed with the debate, you must disclose your names and titles at M&amp;I Bank.

Are you up for it, Mr Bankster?

Or are you scared?

I look forward to your  response...

I love happy endings too…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55002">Dave8040</a>.</p>
<p>So, Mr Bankster shill, you want to pick a fight?</p>
<p>You got one.</p>
<p>I hereby challenge you to a radio duel on your opinion vs mine.</p>
<p>You claim the borrowers are defrauding the lenders and I say the opposite. Instead of writing your childish rants on this site, join me for a debate on our radio show, Citizen Warriors WDJA 1420, live to discuss the topic.</p>
<p>I will have a panel of three and you may have the same. In order to proceed with the debate, you must disclose your names and titles at M&#038;I Bank.</p>
<p>Are you up for it, Mr Bankster?</p>
<p>Or are you scared?</p>
<p>I look forward to your  response&#8230;</p>
<p>I love happy endings too…</p>
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		By: Dave8040		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-56442</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55002&quot;&gt;Dave8040&lt;/a&gt;.

The posts here, as well as the topics and recommendations made on this site as a whole, only serve to exemplify how naive, child-like and selfish its owners and supporters really are.  While the site claims to be anti-fraud, the obvious truth is that the site’s publishers are the true fraudsters, along with those who follow its ideas.  The site promotes ways to steal from lending institutions (i.e. defraud them).  

I would go on to outline why the ideas posted here are faulty and childish, but it is hard to win an argument when trying to rationalize with children.  In fact, my two-year-old, who has logged many hours of Baby Einstein and Sesame Street viewing, likely has a better understanding of economic fundamentals than the majority of bloggers here.  

You cannot be given the privilege of borrowing money, a lot of money, and expect that you do not have to pay it back.  If that were the case, no one, save the extremely wealthy, would be able to purchase homes or cars, while the majority would have to rent and never have the ability to own.  With freedom comes responsibility, yet no one here seems to want that.  Like children, many subscribe to the greedy, fraudulent and self-serving idea that they are entitled to everything, and owe nothing.  Frankly, you should be ashamed.  

I also find it interesting that the site’s administrator went to the trouble to publish what should be my confidential server address; however, he lazily fails to research or understand the cases he cavalierly posts, and points to as bank fraud.  

The good news here is that this case (Mazine) has a happy ending that is still being written.  While Mazine and Bouskila (the two debtors who walked away from a large loan secured by 40 acres of vacant horse land in central Florida), have fought the foreclosure every step of the way, anticipating a deficiency claim post sale, and while they have on numerous occasions through their counsel offered up a deed in lieu of foreclosure for waiver of deficiency, they were granted their wish: the bank will be forced to re-file its foreclosure under the full legal bank name.  What they are missing is that the market continues to devalue, meaning that their fun little investment property continues to lose its worth.  So, the bid that was entered and which has now been vacated will likely be much higher than the bid that will be entered when the bank is forced to go back to sale a year from now, meaning… more deficiency owed.  Good work, defendants and defendant’s counsel.  Better, the debtors are wealthy businessmen who own and operate several real estate businesses in Miami, so there is no doubt that they will eventually be able to pay this debt, even if it takes a judicial deficiency claim post sale to do so.  

I love happy endings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55002">Dave8040</a>.</p>
<p>The posts here, as well as the topics and recommendations made on this site as a whole, only serve to exemplify how naive, child-like and selfish its owners and supporters really are.  While the site claims to be anti-fraud, the obvious truth is that the site’s publishers are the true fraudsters, along with those who follow its ideas.  The site promotes ways to steal from lending institutions (i.e. defraud them).  </p>
<p>I would go on to outline why the ideas posted here are faulty and childish, but it is hard to win an argument when trying to rationalize with children.  In fact, my two-year-old, who has logged many hours of Baby Einstein and Sesame Street viewing, likely has a better understanding of economic fundamentals than the majority of bloggers here.  </p>
<p>You cannot be given the privilege of borrowing money, a lot of money, and expect that you do not have to pay it back.  If that were the case, no one, save the extremely wealthy, would be able to purchase homes or cars, while the majority would have to rent and never have the ability to own.  With freedom comes responsibility, yet no one here seems to want that.  Like children, many subscribe to the greedy, fraudulent and self-serving idea that they are entitled to everything, and owe nothing.  Frankly, you should be ashamed.  </p>
<p>I also find it interesting that the site’s administrator went to the trouble to publish what should be my confidential server address; however, he lazily fails to research or understand the cases he cavalierly posts, and points to as bank fraud.  </p>
<p>The good news here is that this case (Mazine) has a happy ending that is still being written.  While Mazine and Bouskila (the two debtors who walked away from a large loan secured by 40 acres of vacant horse land in central Florida), have fought the foreclosure every step of the way, anticipating a deficiency claim post sale, and while they have on numerous occasions through their counsel offered up a deed in lieu of foreclosure for waiver of deficiency, they were granted their wish: the bank will be forced to re-file its foreclosure under the full legal bank name.  What they are missing is that the market continues to devalue, meaning that their fun little investment property continues to lose its worth.  So, the bid that was entered and which has now been vacated will likely be much higher than the bid that will be entered when the bank is forced to go back to sale a year from now, meaning… more deficiency owed.  Good work, defendants and defendant’s counsel.  Better, the debtors are wealthy businessmen who own and operate several real estate businesses in Miami, so there is no doubt that they will eventually be able to pay this debt, even if it takes a judicial deficiency claim post sale to do so.  </p>
<p>I love happy endings.</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55015</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2011 21:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55002&quot;&gt;Dave8040&lt;/a&gt;.

BTW DAVE, SEE THE YOU TUBE VIDEO ENTITLED:  CNBC ILLUMINATI CRASHES STOCK MARKET..............]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/26/fl-1st-dca-fraudclosure-reversed-mazine-v-mampi-bank-none-of-the-requirements-for-admission-of-a-business-record-were-met/#comment-55002">Dave8040</a>.</p>
<p>BTW DAVE, SEE THE YOU TUBE VIDEO ENTITLED:  CNBC ILLUMINATI CRASHES STOCK MARKET&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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