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		By: eif		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/28/late-on-mortgage-bank-trashout-civil-matter-late-on-rent-landlord-trashout-felony-with-prision-time/#comment-46871&quot;&gt;LVLawman&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello and your reply is much appreciated; times are tough and  feedback is soothing; one looks for it (admittedly).  

Hereabouts, resident-passion seems past and I do feel I get a lot out of all the posts; different boons. 

Not trying to be patronizing but actually as an older person I many times yearn for past days when I myself felt more fully the &#039;fire in belly&#039;, but I acknowledge the rant phenomenon is an online longtime Netizen feature, yes, part of the Internet &#039;thing&#039;. 

Thanks again, with warm regards, hope you&#039;ll write,  eif.
elders.in.foreclosure@gmail.com.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/28/late-on-mortgage-bank-trashout-civil-matter-late-on-rent-landlord-trashout-felony-with-prision-time/#comment-46871">LVLawman</a>.</p>
<p>Hello and your reply is much appreciated; times are tough and  feedback is soothing; one looks for it (admittedly).  </p>
<p>Hereabouts, resident-passion seems past and I do feel I get a lot out of all the posts; different boons. </p>
<p>Not trying to be patronizing but actually as an older person I many times yearn for past days when I myself felt more fully the &#8216;fire in belly&#8217;, but I acknowledge the rant phenomenon is an online longtime Netizen feature, yes, part of the Internet &#8216;thing&#8217;. </p>
<p>Thanks again, with warm regards, hope you&#8217;ll write,  eif.<br />
<a href="mailto:elders.in.foreclosure@gmail.com">elders.in.foreclosure@gmail.com</a>.</p>
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		By: LVLawman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 09:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[EIF:

Thank heavens for a poster with some ability to advance legal analysis and reasoning. I stopped posting because the posts on this site have become overburdended with the emotional rants of IVENTs crowd adding no useful knowlege to the readership.

Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EIF:</p>
<p>Thank heavens for a poster with some ability to advance legal analysis and reasoning. I stopped posting because the posts on this site have become overburdended with the emotional rants of IVENTs crowd adding no useful knowlege to the readership.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		By: eif		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 21:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, as to criminal intent: 
depending on the jurisdiction (where it happens or can be otherwise tried) State criminal/penal code usually distinguishes specific and general intent.  

For general intent crime it can be enough to sense know feel intuit surmise guess conjecture hypothesize speculate wonder or suspect (as a verb), for example, that  an act shouldn&#039;t be done; or there could be just a &quot;should have realized&quot; sense in the air -  and its a gotcha and fine or jail.

elders.in.foreclosure@gmail.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, as to criminal intent:<br />
depending on the jurisdiction (where it happens or can be otherwise tried) State criminal/penal code usually distinguishes specific and general intent.  </p>
<p>For general intent crime it can be enough to sense know feel intuit surmise guess conjecture hypothesize speculate wonder or suspect (as a verb), for example, that  an act shouldn&#8217;t be done; or there could be just a &#8220;should have realized&#8221; sense in the air &#8211;  and its a gotcha and fine or jail.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:elders.in.foreclosure@gmail.com">elders.in.foreclosure@gmail.com</a></p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/28/late-on-mortgage-bank-trashout-civil-matter-late-on-rent-landlord-trashout-felony-with-prision-time/#comment-46450&quot;&gt;lvent&lt;/a&gt;.

WHERE&#039;S THE HANDCUFFS???????????????????????????/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/28/late-on-mortgage-bank-trashout-civil-matter-late-on-rent-landlord-trashout-felony-with-prision-time/#comment-46450">lvent</a>.</p>
<p>WHERE&#8217;S THE HANDCUFFS???????????????????????????/</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is unfortunately par for the course......Do as I say, not as I do....The Ponzi Schemers are the only ones get away with such scurilous crimes...Why?  TOO MUCH CORRUPTION.....IT IS RAMPANT....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is unfortunately par for the course&#8230;&#8230;Do as I say, not as I do&#8230;.The Ponzi Schemers are the only ones get away with such scurilous crimes&#8230;Why?  TOO MUCH CORRUPTION&#8230;..IT IS RAMPANT&#8230;.</p>
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		By: eif		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 17:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/28/late-on-mortgage-bank-trashout-civil-matter-late-on-rent-landlord-trashout-felony-with-prision-time/#comment-46439&quot;&gt;ruth ann traci&lt;/a&gt;.

Oops ruth ann sorry I did not see your prior  post ... was typing not ignoring.  EIF..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/07/28/late-on-mortgage-bank-trashout-civil-matter-late-on-rent-landlord-trashout-felony-with-prision-time/#comment-46439">ruth ann traci</a>.</p>
<p>Oops ruth ann sorry I did not see your prior  post &#8230; was typing not ignoring.  EIF..</p>
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		By: eif		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 17:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well here&#039;s one possible scenario  and would like your enlightenment.  

It has to do with whether there is a perceived DUTY or not.  Will not take up your time to discuss whose perception of DUTY, or mechanisms for enforcement,   at least not yet. And the DUTY thing pertains to all of us, Sheriffs and Shire-Reefs  too (as a timely example).


For instance (with tongue-crazy-glue-welded to  cheek wall)  say  a released prisoner has a duty not to violate a specific parole condition like &quot;Okay, so promise you won&#039;t trash-out houses that have weeds around them (buzz buzz &quot;inventory&quot;)  or other such stuff, or other stuff we won&#039;t list but you get the thread.  Promise?&quot;   &quot;Yes (hypothetically)  I promise&quot;.

We here, from the report(s), know the rest of the present hypo - the promise is made. Ah, fresh air... but then in actual practice its not kept  and in epilogue the world cares about &quot;justice&quot; due to a shocked sense of duty-violative behavior - that aint right surely. 

Zo ... What is needed for argument and action is a plausible and court creditable DUTY on the part of banks (&#039;cuz we&#039;re discussing banks, but it&#039;s systemic). And btw, what is a list of their duties?

That is-  What can we suggest:, maybe (top of the head) &quot;The &#039; DUTY of fair dealing&#039;? &quot; 

Looking forward to comments, and extending regards to all including lurkers,   

from elders-in-foreclosure@gmail.com

P.s. There&#039;s a start.   Robo-signing protests suggest a sense of violated DUTY .. . somewhere somehow.
Ivent&#039;s right on the mark - get your facts in a row. If its possible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well here&#8217;s one possible scenario  and would like your enlightenment.  </p>
<p>It has to do with whether there is a perceived DUTY or not.  Will not take up your time to discuss whose perception of DUTY, or mechanisms for enforcement,   at least not yet. And the DUTY thing pertains to all of us, Sheriffs and Shire-Reefs  too (as a timely example).</p>
<p>For instance (with tongue-crazy-glue-welded to  cheek wall)  say  a released prisoner has a duty not to violate a specific parole condition like &#8220;Okay, so promise you won&#8217;t trash-out houses that have weeds around them (buzz buzz &#8220;inventory&#8221;)  or other such stuff, or other stuff we won&#8217;t list but you get the thread.  Promise?&#8221;   &#8220;Yes (hypothetically)  I promise&#8221;.</p>
<p>We here, from the report(s), know the rest of the present hypo &#8211; the promise is made. Ah, fresh air&#8230; but then in actual practice its not kept  and in epilogue the world cares about &#8220;justice&#8221; due to a shocked sense of duty-violative behavior &#8211; that aint right surely. </p>
<p>Zo &#8230; What is needed for argument and action is a plausible and court creditable DUTY on the part of banks (&#8216;cuz we&#8217;re discussing banks, but it&#8217;s systemic). And btw, what is a list of their duties?</p>
<p>That is-  What can we suggest:, maybe (top of the head) &#8220;The &#8216; DUTY of fair dealing&#8217;? &#8221; </p>
<p>Looking forward to comments, and extending regards to all including lurkers,   </p>
<p>from <a href="mailto:elders-in-foreclosure@gmail.com">elders-in-foreclosure@gmail.com</a></p>
<p>P.s. There&#8217;s a start.   Robo-signing protests suggest a sense of violated DUTY .. . somewhere somehow.<br />
Ivent&#8217;s right on the mark &#8211; get your facts in a row. If its possible.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 17:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[homeowners unable to get property back from bad tenants without legal costs and then you get stuck with the cleanup, four months behind, $5000 in damages, plus another 30 days to rent to new person, created a deliquent situation for other residence; foreclosed and locked out, took less than 12 months, thankyou federal housing fannie mae, so glad the law is on someones side, knew I was a supporter of principles for the average American, just can&#039;t wait to vote for any issues you may have going forward,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>homeowners unable to get property back from bad tenants without legal costs and then you get stuck with the cleanup, four months behind, $5000 in damages, plus another 30 days to rent to new person, created a deliquent situation for other residence; foreclosed and locked out, took less than 12 months, thankyou federal housing fannie mae, so glad the law is on someones side, knew I was a supporter of principles for the average American, just can&#8217;t wait to vote for any issues you may have going forward,</p>
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