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		By: Miles Sheperd, Author		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/18/report-the-win-win-solution-how-fixing-the-housing-crisis-will-create-1-million-jobs/#comment-62277&quot;&gt;Steve Vernon&lt;/a&gt;.

Steve Whoever?  

You must first know what the Rules of Law are before you take sides.  So tell us, Steve Whoever, what is your brilliant legal argument based on your vast knowledge of &quot;The Rules of  Law?&quot; 

Here is my advice to you...first engage your brain if you have one.  Second, while engaged, seek and find a plausable and entertaining argument (as we all love to be entertained).  You can base your newly discovered argument on your vast knowledge of the &quot;Rules of Law.&quot;   And finally, write something intelligent next time so that we may all be enlightened by your sizzling gray matter discoveries!   

Otherwise, stick to something you may actually know something about, like the nightly news.  And don&#039;t forget to follow along with all the other brain-washed conformists that agree with your slight minded viewpoint.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/18/report-the-win-win-solution-how-fixing-the-housing-crisis-will-create-1-million-jobs/#comment-62277">Steve Vernon</a>.</p>
<p>Steve Whoever?  </p>
<p>You must first know what the Rules of Law are before you take sides.  So tell us, Steve Whoever, what is your brilliant legal argument based on your vast knowledge of &#8220;The Rules of  Law?&#8221; </p>
<p>Here is my advice to you&#8230;first engage your brain if you have one.  Second, while engaged, seek and find a plausable and entertaining argument (as we all love to be entertained).  You can base your newly discovered argument on your vast knowledge of the &#8220;Rules of Law.&#8221;   And finally, write something intelligent next time so that we may all be enlightened by your sizzling gray matter discoveries!   </p>
<p>Otherwise, stick to something you may actually know something about, like the nightly news.  And don&#8217;t forget to follow along with all the other brain-washed conformists that agree with your slight minded viewpoint.</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 21:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/18/report-the-win-win-solution-how-fixing-the-housing-crisis-will-create-1-million-jobs/#comment-62277&quot;&gt;Steve Vernon&lt;/a&gt;.

Steve, what is wrong was the Ponzi Scheme on Wall Street and the fact that the U.S. Government ever allowed Wall Street to play russian roulette with our economy....and peoples homes and businesses.  Wall Street were allowed to have a Casino and set  MAINSTREET up to fail because they were completely unregulated and that is why we are all here..They made hundreds of trillions of dollars on the loans and then on our failure that the Ponzi Schemers were ALLOWED TO CREATE WITH LIARS LOANS...THE BANKS ARE WHO PUT THE WORD LIAR IN LIARS LOANS, NOT THE PEOPLE.....THAT BUNDLING OF WAY TOO MUCH RISK WAS INTENTIONAL AND IT WAS MEANT TO CA-- USE US TO LOSE OUR BUSINESSES AND JOBS AND THERE FORE OUR HOMES SO THEY COULD COLLECT THEIR CREDIT DEFAULT SWAP INSURANCE WORTH 3-4 TIMES THE VALUE OF THESE UNDERWATER HOMES AFTER THEY GOT THE ILLEGAL BAILOUTS........YOU SHOULD WATCH THE MOVIE INSIDE JOB STEVE..IT EXPLAINS WHO GOT FILTHY RICH OFF OF THIS SCAM AND IF THAT DOESN&#039;T TURN YOUR STOMACH THAN MAYBE YOU ARE A WALL STREET CROOK YOURSELF...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/18/report-the-win-win-solution-how-fixing-the-housing-crisis-will-create-1-million-jobs/#comment-62277">Steve Vernon</a>.</p>
<p>Steve, what is wrong was the Ponzi Scheme on Wall Street and the fact that the U.S. Government ever allowed Wall Street to play russian roulette with our economy&#8230;.and peoples homes and businesses.  Wall Street were allowed to have a Casino and set  MAINSTREET up to fail because they were completely unregulated and that is why we are all here..They made hundreds of trillions of dollars on the loans and then on our failure that the Ponzi Schemers were ALLOWED TO CREATE WITH LIARS LOANS&#8230;THE BANKS ARE WHO PUT THE WORD LIAR IN LIARS LOANS, NOT THE PEOPLE&#8230;..THAT BUNDLING OF WAY TOO MUCH RISK WAS INTENTIONAL AND IT WAS MEANT TO CA&#8211; USE US TO LOSE OUR BUSINESSES AND JOBS AND THERE FORE OUR HOMES SO THEY COULD COLLECT THEIR CREDIT DEFAULT SWAP INSURANCE WORTH 3-4 TIMES THE VALUE OF THESE UNDERWATER HOMES AFTER THEY GOT THE ILLEGAL BAILOUTS&#8230;&#8230;..YOU SHOULD WATCH THE MOVIE INSIDE JOB STEVE..IT EXPLAINS WHO GOT FILTHY RICH OFF OF THIS SCAM AND IF THAT DOESN&#8217;T TURN YOUR STOMACH THAN MAYBE YOU ARE A WALL STREET CROOK YOURSELF&#8230;</p>
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		By: pamelag		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 20:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/18/report-the-win-win-solution-how-fixing-the-housing-crisis-will-create-1-million-jobs/#comment-62277&quot;&gt;Steve Vernon&lt;/a&gt;.

not paying their obligations, steve? Most of the foreclosures are fraud committed by the banks. they are stealing houses. I was never in default, yet they stole my house, the judges did not want to &#039;hear&#039;. you hear they won&#039;t even modify. their profit is about 17 X the original note. so is it a reward after all the embarassment, stress, tears, broken relationships and horror?  the rule of law must stand. OUT WITH MERS!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/18/report-the-win-win-solution-how-fixing-the-housing-crisis-will-create-1-million-jobs/#comment-62277">Steve Vernon</a>.</p>
<p>not paying their obligations, steve? Most of the foreclosures are fraud committed by the banks. they are stealing houses. I was never in default, yet they stole my house, the judges did not want to &#8216;hear&#8217;. you hear they won&#8217;t even modify. their profit is about 17 X the original note. so is it a reward after all the embarassment, stress, tears, broken relationships and horror?  the rule of law must stand. OUT WITH MERS!</p>
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		By: Steve Vernon		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[What an incredibly unjust &#038; plain stupid idea!!!!  Why should 95% of the Homeowners who are paying their mortgages be penalized while the defaulters get a windfall?  That is just wrong headed --- don&#039;t reward them for not paying their obligations.  The Rule of Law must stand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an incredibly unjust &amp; plain stupid idea!!!!  Why should 95% of the Homeowners who are paying their mortgages be penalized while the defaulters get a windfall?  That is just wrong headed &#8212; don&#8217;t reward them for not paying their obligations.  The Rule of Law must stand.</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 03:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/18/report-the-win-win-solution-how-fixing-the-housing-crisis-will-create-1-million-jobs/#comment-61859&quot;&gt;Marilyn Abdilla&lt;/a&gt;.

The Chinese Government is getting immensely wealth and more powerful off of our stupidity but they are not who is behind this ruling elite attempt to take down of America..That is what the New World Horder wants all of us to believe.......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/18/report-the-win-win-solution-how-fixing-the-housing-crisis-will-create-1-million-jobs/#comment-61859">Marilyn Abdilla</a>.</p>
<p>The Chinese Government is getting immensely wealth and more powerful off of our stupidity but they are not who is behind this ruling elite attempt to take down of America..That is what the New World Horder wants all of us to believe&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 03:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/18/report-the-win-win-solution-how-fixing-the-housing-crisis-will-create-1-million-jobs/#comment-61859&quot;&gt;Marilyn Abdilla&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s right Marilyn we have a huge crop of treasonists working for the New World Horder running America deep into hell.  Geithner had the nerve to make a statement right after the S&#038;P downgrade that he is not worried that China will stop lending us money....WTF???  Do we need anymore proof who these traitors are working for and how hard they are trying to throw AMERICA UNDER THE BUS????  These politicians and their minions and cohorts are sick and evil alright and they are bound and determined to help the New World Horder take America over without ever firing a shot......They have infiltrated everything in America and they are holding us hostage right now just waiting for the next disaster to strike so they can take over and own not only everything but they want to own every man woman and child....with the debt slavery they have created....The U.S. GOVERNMENT is completely CORRUPT and allowed them to ring us up, now they all need to resign immediately because they are all working for the enemy....THIS WHOLE EVIL PLAN FOR OUR DEMISE STARTED WITH THE  ASSASSINATION OF J.F.K  TO 9/11 TO TODAY WAS AN INSIDE JOB....FULLY PLANNED AND ORCHESTRATED BY THE NEW WORLD HORDER..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/18/report-the-win-win-solution-how-fixing-the-housing-crisis-will-create-1-million-jobs/#comment-61859">Marilyn Abdilla</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right Marilyn we have a huge crop of treasonists working for the New World Horder running America deep into hell.  Geithner had the nerve to make a statement right after the S&amp;P downgrade that he is not worried that China will stop lending us money&#8230;.WTF???  Do we need anymore proof who these traitors are working for and how hard they are trying to throw AMERICA UNDER THE BUS????  These politicians and their minions and cohorts are sick and evil alright and they are bound and determined to help the New World Horder take America over without ever firing a shot&#8230;&#8230;They have infiltrated everything in America and they are holding us hostage right now just waiting for the next disaster to strike so they can take over and own not only everything but they want to own every man woman and child&#8230;.with the debt slavery they have created&#8230;.The U.S. GOVERNMENT is completely CORRUPT and allowed them to ring us up, now they all need to resign immediately because they are all working for the enemy&#8230;.THIS WHOLE EVIL PLAN FOR OUR DEMISE STARTED WITH THE  ASSASSINATION OF J.F.K  TO 9/11 TO TODAY WAS AN INSIDE JOB&#8230;.FULLY PLANNED AND ORCHESTRATED BY THE NEW WORLD HORDER..</p>
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		By: Marilyn Abdilla		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marilyn Abdilla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 03:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/18/report-the-win-win-solution-how-fixing-the-housing-crisis-will-create-1-million-jobs/#comment-61429&quot;&gt;lvent&lt;/a&gt;.

I vent...I fully agree...they all need to resign now...get out...their lying days are over.  Also...all pensions, health insurance, benefits of perks and security must cease.  They must leave with the clothes on their body...thats it.  Then The Peoples Court  with no jury...( same treatment as the homeowners have gotten)....will cut the hearings short...all  rubber stamped with  prison...a new home.  They will be out of the rain and cold..that is more than the homeowners had when the government allowed the fraudster banksters to kick them into the streets...and steal their homes...homes the banksters never owned.....Let&#039;s not forget there are 2 Bush&#039;s...Clinton, Obama......but the four listed are the ones most important...along with Bernanke and Geithner...I think  the reason Geither was going to leave...cause he is chicken crap to what may happen....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/18/report-the-win-win-solution-how-fixing-the-housing-crisis-will-create-1-million-jobs/#comment-61429">lvent</a>.</p>
<p>I vent&#8230;I fully agree&#8230;they all need to resign now&#8230;get out&#8230;their lying days are over.  Also&#8230;all pensions, health insurance, benefits of perks and security must cease.  They must leave with the clothes on their body&#8230;thats it.  Then The Peoples Court  with no jury&#8230;( same treatment as the homeowners have gotten)&#8230;.will cut the hearings short&#8230;all  rubber stamped with  prison&#8230;a new home.  They will be out of the rain and cold..that is more than the homeowners had when the government allowed the fraudster banksters to kick them into the streets&#8230;and steal their homes&#8230;homes the banksters never owned&#8230;..Let&#8217;s not forget there are 2 Bush&#8217;s&#8230;Clinton, Obama&#8230;&#8230;but the four listed are the ones most important&#8230;along with Bernanke and Geithner&#8230;I think  the reason Geither was going to leave&#8230;cause he is chicken crap to what may happen&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Marilyn Abdilla		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marilyn Abdilla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 02:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/18/report-the-win-win-solution-how-fixing-the-housing-crisis-will-create-1-million-jobs/#comment-61433&quot;&gt;lvent&lt;/a&gt;.

I vent....I &#039; think &#039; Jim has a good point in what he is saying....China is in the background....that is what the banksters fear....also to abolish the IRS and the Federal Reserve...rock bottom.  Who knows...China may have  their own &#039; ideas &#039; on the snake.  But we need to stop the federal reserve first and the IRS....and get out of the UN.  To climb a high mountain one must start at the bottom and go up.  And YES..I agree with you....all past governments have been guilty of treason...tyranny and all were traitors...otherwise we would not be in this mess.  If an honest one had been in office, nothing this massive would have been allowed.  We had no protection for many years...the terrorists were running the country right along with their foreign terrorists friends....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/18/report-the-win-win-solution-how-fixing-the-housing-crisis-will-create-1-million-jobs/#comment-61433">lvent</a>.</p>
<p>I vent&#8230;.I &#8216; think &#8216; Jim has a good point in what he is saying&#8230;.China is in the background&#8230;.that is what the banksters fear&#8230;.also to abolish the IRS and the Federal Reserve&#8230;rock bottom.  Who knows&#8230;China may have  their own &#8216; ideas &#8216; on the snake.  But we need to stop the federal reserve first and the IRS&#8230;.and get out of the UN.  To climb a high mountain one must start at the bottom and go up.  And YES..I agree with you&#8230;.all past governments have been guilty of treason&#8230;tyranny and all were traitors&#8230;otherwise we would not be in this mess.  If an honest one had been in office, nothing this massive would have been allowed.  We had no protection for many years&#8230;the terrorists were running the country right along with their foreign terrorists friends&#8230;.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miles Sheperd, Author]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 20:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello ALL and I mean ALL...those struggling, those not struggling and everyone in between.  If you are for this country and want to take it back, then read on. 

My story...as a small time and small town developer with a crew of at least 10 tradesmen, I have seen first hand and from the front line what devastation continues to play out within the fabric of our economy for over 5 years now and I am not happy.

After losing 2 properties to wrongful foreclosure and looking in the face of a third, I can tell you from experience, that if you are in a non-judicial state such as California, the only thing that the banking industry understands is legal action, period.  So don&#039;t waste your time trying to negotiate with anyone you may come across at any banking level...they are all just puppets for the legal team that pull their strings.

Although many people think that non-judicial means without court action, they are wrong.  All foreclosure action is governed by statutes specifically section 2924 of the Civil Code and the Uniform Commercial Codes, which underwrite many of the regulations pertaining to mortgage transactions.  

These statutes are in place to protect the consumer and to guide the foreclosing partis in those actions.  Read and understand them and you will gain much knowledge of how to move forward.  This site and many other sites exist and provide much good information to assist you and you do not need a lot of money to establish your position.

The fact is that in California approximately 95% of all foreclosures go uncontested!  That is a huge win for the banks!   It is ultimately our responsibility, as business people, to right this ship and if we don&#039;t do it they will, and it will not be pretty or in our favor.

Simply put, It&#039;s us or them. I prefer it to be us and not them.  This ship is at our command not theirs and it is up to us, as a people collectively, to steer this ship in the right direction.  Anyone that needs help can get on board by contacting me directly and I will help steady their ship for them.

I am not a lawyer only a small business person that got blind sided like many others with similar good intentions out there, but I have some great contacts with broad knowledge based on the truth and from a pro-borrower position.   When you combine these 2 elements it can add great strength to your position. 

There is a silver lining to this cloud, lets harvest it! 




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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello ALL and I mean ALL&#8230;those struggling, those not struggling and everyone in between.  If you are for this country and want to take it back, then read on. </p>
<p>My story&#8230;as a small time and small town developer with a crew of at least 10 tradesmen, I have seen first hand and from the front line what devastation continues to play out within the fabric of our economy for over 5 years now and I am not happy.</p>
<p>After losing 2 properties to wrongful foreclosure and looking in the face of a third, I can tell you from experience, that if you are in a non-judicial state such as California, the only thing that the banking industry understands is legal action, period.  So don&#8217;t waste your time trying to negotiate with anyone you may come across at any banking level&#8230;they are all just puppets for the legal team that pull their strings.</p>
<p>Although many people think that non-judicial means without court action, they are wrong.  All foreclosure action is governed by statutes specifically section 2924 of the Civil Code and the Uniform Commercial Codes, which underwrite many of the regulations pertaining to mortgage transactions.  </p>
<p>These statutes are in place to protect the consumer and to guide the foreclosing partis in those actions.  Read and understand them and you will gain much knowledge of how to move forward.  This site and many other sites exist and provide much good information to assist you and you do not need a lot of money to establish your position.</p>
<p>The fact is that in California approximately 95% of all foreclosures go uncontested!  That is a huge win for the banks!   It is ultimately our responsibility, as business people, to right this ship and if we don&#8217;t do it they will, and it will not be pretty or in our favor.</p>
<p>Simply put, It&#8217;s us or them. I prefer it to be us and not them.  This ship is at our command not theirs and it is up to us, as a people collectively, to steer this ship in the right direction.  Anyone that needs help can get on board by contacting me directly and I will help steady their ship for them.</p>
<p>I am not a lawyer only a small business person that got blind sided like many others with similar good intentions out there, but I have some great contacts with broad knowledge based on the truth and from a pro-borrower position.   When you combine these 2 elements it can add great strength to your position. </p>
<p>There is a silver lining to this cloud, lets harvest it! </p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 19:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/18/report-the-win-win-solution-how-fixing-the-housing-crisis-will-create-1-million-jobs/#comment-61504&quot;&gt;Jim Bethea&lt;/a&gt;.

Jim, The Rothschild Dynasty is a puppet of the SMOM/Vatican/Jesuits...as well as Wall Street. That is where you will find the puppetmaster.  They are just the perps, the pimps and prosititues for babylon....All roads lead to Rome..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/18/report-the-win-win-solution-how-fixing-the-housing-crisis-will-create-1-million-jobs/#comment-61504">Jim Bethea</a>.</p>
<p>Jim, The Rothschild Dynasty is a puppet of the SMOM/Vatican/Jesuits&#8230;as well as Wall Street. That is where you will find the puppetmaster.  They are just the perps, the pimps and prosititues for babylon&#8230;.All roads lead to Rome..</p>
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