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		By: housemanrob		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/29/the-market-ticker-foreclosuregate-housing-and-fraud/#comment-72885</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[housemanrob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 00:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/29/the-market-ticker-foreclosuregate-housing-and-fraud/#comment-72806&quot;&gt;Readdocs&lt;/a&gt;.

ALL GOOD POINTS R.D.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/29/the-market-ticker-foreclosuregate-housing-and-fraud/#comment-72806">Readdocs</a>.</p>
<p>ALL GOOD POINTS R.D.</p>
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		By: lies is all they tell		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/29/the-market-ticker-foreclosuregate-housing-and-fraud/#comment-72814</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lies is all they tell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 23:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the banks hold their retirement pensions.  if they legally do the right thing because all the mortgages are null and void they will not have a pension.  so they think they are helping their own cause.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the banks hold their retirement pensions.  if they legally do the right thing because all the mortgages are null and void they will not have a pension.  so they think they are helping their own cause.</p>
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		By: lies is all they tell		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/29/the-market-ticker-foreclosuregate-housing-and-fraud/#comment-72812</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lies is all they tell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 23:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/29/the-market-ticker-foreclosuregate-housing-and-fraud/#comment-72535&quot;&gt;pcampbell&lt;/a&gt;.

hi you not say what state but his has happened to me and my husband please contact me. jodiandre@yahoo.com.  i hope you plan on appealing???  i also went through the same thing with wells fargo in the end telling me a current home owner to stop paying my mortgage.  i am interested to know if they told you the same thing to you.  my lawyer also does not know alot about this ponzi scheme.  i brought up promissary estopel.  because by telling me to stop paying the mortgage null and voids the contract.  its case law.  so contact me.  w eneed to start fighting back.  wells fargo not fund these loans.  check with your tilte company they are in on it.   the real lender was not on our note and mortgage.  also the securitization proccess we were not involved in that decision also illegal.  this has to stop and we must fight back   please contact me   please!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/29/the-market-ticker-foreclosuregate-housing-and-fraud/#comment-72535">pcampbell</a>.</p>
<p>hi you not say what state but his has happened to me and my husband please contact me. <a href="mailto:jodiandre@yahoo.com">jodiandre@yahoo.com</a>.  i hope you plan on appealing???  i also went through the same thing with wells fargo in the end telling me a current home owner to stop paying my mortgage.  i am interested to know if they told you the same thing to you.  my lawyer also does not know alot about this ponzi scheme.  i brought up promissary estopel.  because by telling me to stop paying the mortgage null and voids the contract.  its case law.  so contact me.  w eneed to start fighting back.  wells fargo not fund these loans.  check with your tilte company they are in on it.   the real lender was not on our note and mortgage.  also the securitization proccess we were not involved in that decision also illegal.  this has to stop and we must fight back   please contact me   please!!!!!</p>
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		By: Readdocs		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/29/the-market-ticker-foreclosuregate-housing-and-fraud/#comment-72806</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Readdocs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 23:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Find out what the statute of limitations are for your state, and then begin
a goal of counter suing to get your home back.  It will take a lot of patience
and persistence. If your mortgage is serviced or &quot;owned&quot; by a too big to 
fail bank, chances are you&#039;re looking at fraud.
Go back through your origination documents you signed at closing and read
every thing plus who printed the documents. There are several good web sites
dedicated to research you can use to do some indepth search that will keep 
you off of radar. Don&#039;t use any pertinent personal information that could lead
to your true identity when communicating on a public forum.
Go regularly (monthly) to the county court house and check the documents 
recorded on your home to see if anything changes, there&#039;s lots of good info
to had from that source. In some cases you can check online for many counties.

I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. My humble opinion only.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Find out what the statute of limitations are for your state, and then begin<br />
a goal of counter suing to get your home back.  It will take a lot of patience<br />
and persistence. If your mortgage is serviced or &#8220;owned&#8221; by a too big to<br />
fail bank, chances are you&#8217;re looking at fraud.<br />
Go back through your origination documents you signed at closing and read<br />
every thing plus who printed the documents. There are several good web sites<br />
dedicated to research you can use to do some indepth search that will keep<br />
you off of radar. Don&#8217;t use any pertinent personal information that could lead<br />
to your true identity when communicating on a public forum.<br />
Go regularly (monthly) to the county court house and check the documents<br />
recorded on your home to see if anything changes, there&#8217;s lots of good info<br />
to had from that source. In some cases you can check online for many counties.</p>
<p>I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. My humble opinion only.</p>
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		By: pcampbell		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/29/the-market-ticker-foreclosuregate-housing-and-fraud/#comment-72535</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pcampbell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bingo. 

Previously with a near perfect credit and two businesses, our family was devasted economically and was never given an honest opportunity to even modify my mortgage after almost a year and 1/2 of useless games with Wells Fargo. Rather, we are being forced out through short sale in two weeks from our home now being sold for $150,000 under the loan balance... to a non-citizen. 

No wonder Wells Fargo could never come up with the holder of the bank note; because it&#039;s impossible to have a clear &quot;owner&quot; of title/note when its one of 1000&#039;s of shareholders of these Mortgage Back Securities.  When the mortage went into defult the &quot;insurance&quot; should have been paid out and the loss was midigated. If anyone should have right to sue for forclosure it should be the insurance company that insured the MBS right? But then how to you untangle that one home among 1000&#039;s in the MBS? Got me there! 

When we originally stood-off the foreclosure sale date early this year in Bankruptcy court we had a confusing series of conveluted parties at &quot;arms length&quot; from our mortgage transaction and had no idea who we were dealing with. Frankly, I don&#039;t think the judge knew either. Was our paperwork robosigned? I have no-idea.

What you said above is what I was saying to my attorney 6 months ago as we filed chapter 7; but he didn&#039;t get the MBS ponzi scheme. Instead he wanted a $20,000 retainer to return to court after he already over-charged us an extra $500 on our chapter 7!  

With 2-weeks to the street we still haven&#039;t secured a decent place to rent because there are so few available in community we live in. And guess what? Because so many are in the same boat we are that means that land lords can jack-up the prices to about where our mortgage used to be. Great deal!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo. </p>
<p>Previously with a near perfect credit and two businesses, our family was devasted economically and was never given an honest opportunity to even modify my mortgage after almost a year and 1/2 of useless games with Wells Fargo. Rather, we are being forced out through short sale in two weeks from our home now being sold for $150,000 under the loan balance&#8230; to a non-citizen. </p>
<p>No wonder Wells Fargo could never come up with the holder of the bank note; because it&#8217;s impossible to have a clear &#8220;owner&#8221; of title/note when its one of 1000&#8217;s of shareholders of these Mortgage Back Securities.  When the mortage went into defult the &#8220;insurance&#8221; should have been paid out and the loss was midigated. If anyone should have right to sue for forclosure it should be the insurance company that insured the MBS right? But then how to you untangle that one home among 1000&#8217;s in the MBS? Got me there! </p>
<p>When we originally stood-off the foreclosure sale date early this year in Bankruptcy court we had a confusing series of conveluted parties at &#8220;arms length&#8221; from our mortgage transaction and had no idea who we were dealing with. Frankly, I don&#8217;t think the judge knew either. Was our paperwork robosigned? I have no-idea.</p>
<p>What you said above is what I was saying to my attorney 6 months ago as we filed chapter 7; but he didn&#8217;t get the MBS ponzi scheme. Instead he wanted a $20,000 retainer to return to court after he already over-charged us an extra $500 on our chapter 7!  </p>
<p>With 2-weeks to the street we still haven&#8217;t secured a decent place to rent because there are so few available in community we live in. And guess what? Because so many are in the same boat we are that means that land lords can jack-up the prices to about where our mortgage used to be. Great deal!</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree the proof we were set up to fail is in the Swaps insurance....They knew there were real risks involved with these mortgage investments and the borrower was immensely decieved about what they were doing with all of these loans......  It was a massive and pernicious set up to fail..The banks put the word Liar in the Liars loans as Professor Wm. Black discussed on the Keiser Report last week...The stock market crash was also intentional as CNBC already reported that INSIDER TRADING CRASHED THE MARKETS IN 08.... You tube search the video, CNBC Illuminati Crashes Stock Market.....Bottom line is there is 40 TRILLION IN COLLATERAL FRAUD and up to 10 MORTGAGES ON EACH PROPERTY and that is the PROOF that THIS ENTIRE FINANCIAL CRISIS IS A GIANT MANUFACTURED HOAX..UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT BACKED BY ZERO COLLATERALLLLL... and those REAL NUMBERS must get out to the masses.....Stealing everything from the people to cover for all of this FAKE MANUFACTURED DEBT CREATED VIA A MASSIVE MORTGAGE FRAUD PONZI SCHEME IS DESPICABLE and THE TRUTH THAT MUST GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC.......EXPONENTIAL FRAUD IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE....Bloomberg reporting that BOFA&#039;s problems began when they BLINDLY AQUIRED COUNTRYWIDE...WHY HOW INCREDIBLY DECEPTIVE!!!!!....BOFA OWNS THIS MORTGAGE FRAUD MESS AND THEY WERE ALL DOING THE SAME FRAUD AS INSTRUCTED BY THEIR RULING ELITE OWNERS.......The truth is, this was a massive set up to fail for all of us and we were never meant to recover from it.....the ruling elite and their minions and cohorts RANG MAINSTREET UP WITH UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT AND PULLED THE RUG OUT FROM UNDER THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.......AND THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THE COLLATERAL FRAUD BECA-- USE OF THE MULTIPLE PLEDGING OF NOTES  MUST GET OUT TO ALL......IF THEY CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH COVERING UP THE TRUTH ABOUT THE MORTGAGE FRAUD PONZI SCHEME AND LEGALIZING FRAUD, WHAT WILL COME NEXT IS HELL ON EARTH...THE TRUTH MUST BE TOLD TO EVERY AMERICAN........20 MILLION MORE FRAUDCLOSURES IS WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING......THEY ARE COMING FOR EVERYTHING WE HAVE.....NO ONE IS SAFE.....WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree the proof we were set up to fail is in the Swaps insurance&#8230;.They knew there were real risks involved with these mortgage investments and the borrower was immensely decieved about what they were doing with all of these loans&#8230;&#8230;  It was a massive and pernicious set up to fail..The banks put the word Liar in the Liars loans as Professor Wm. Black discussed on the Keiser Report last week&#8230;The stock market crash was also intentional as CNBC already reported that INSIDER TRADING CRASHED THE MARKETS IN 08&#8230;. You tube search the video, CNBC Illuminati Crashes Stock Market&#8230;..Bottom line is there is 40 TRILLION IN COLLATERAL FRAUD and up to 10 MORTGAGES ON EACH PROPERTY and that is the PROOF that THIS ENTIRE FINANCIAL CRISIS IS A GIANT MANUFACTURED HOAX..UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT BACKED BY ZERO COLLATERALLLLL&#8230; and those REAL NUMBERS must get out to the masses&#8230;..Stealing everything from the people to cover for all of this FAKE MANUFACTURED DEBT CREATED VIA A MASSIVE MORTGAGE FRAUD PONZI SCHEME IS DESPICABLE and THE TRUTH THAT MUST GET OUT TO THE PUBLIC&#8230;&#8230;.EXPONENTIAL FRAUD IS WHAT WE HAVE HERE&#8230;.Bloomberg reporting that BOFA&#8217;s problems began when they BLINDLY AQUIRED COUNTRYWIDE&#8230;WHY HOW INCREDIBLY DECEPTIVE!!!!!&#8230;.BOFA OWNS THIS MORTGAGE FRAUD MESS AND THEY WERE ALL DOING THE SAME FRAUD AS INSTRUCTED BY THEIR RULING ELITE OWNERS&#8230;&#8230;.The truth is, this was a massive set up to fail for all of us and we were never meant to recover from it&#8230;..the ruling elite and their minions and cohorts RANG MAINSTREET UP WITH UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT AND PULLED THE RUG OUT FROM UNDER THE AMERICAN PEOPLE&#8230;&#8230;.AND THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT OF THE COLLATERAL FRAUD BECA&#8211; USE OF THE MULTIPLE PLEDGING OF NOTES  MUST GET OUT TO ALL&#8230;&#8230;IF THEY CONTINUE TO GET AWAY WITH COVERING UP THE TRUTH ABOUT THE MORTGAGE FRAUD PONZI SCHEME AND LEGALIZING FRAUD, WHAT WILL COME NEXT IS HELL ON EARTH&#8230;THE TRUTH MUST BE TOLD TO EVERY AMERICAN&#8230;&#8230;..20 MILLION MORE FRAUDCLOSURES IS WHAT THEY ARE PLANNING&#8230;&#8230;THEY ARE COMING FOR EVERYTHING WE HAVE&#8230;..NO ONE IS SAFE&#8230;..WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		By: Constitutional ChrisYAHan		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/29/the-market-ticker-foreclosuregate-housing-and-fraud/#comment-72497</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Constitutional ChrisYAHan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Inspirations to: Felony CRIMINALITY, evinced, by the apparent escalations; by Government and Law Officios, to engage in the MULTIFARIOUS Fraud and Racketeering  ARTS, provided by: CONvienience via:&quot; Government LICENSE to STEAL Private Property,&quot; of  AMERICAN NATIONALS, under the express: artifices, schemes, devices, and Instruments of Frauds, including the specifically CONtrived CONvienient PRETENSES of: &quot;ANONYINMITY&quot; afforded through: the COVER of pretenses; of dubiously posed: &quot;National Security CONcerns,&quot; seem to have been precisely: EMBOLDENED, through the LEAD, of the Pretend POTUS&#039;  &quot;Chicago MOB; Political TACTICS, &quot;including: mere Thuggery and Robbery, by Un-Lawful SEIZURES of Money [Debt NOTES,] Land , Vehicles and Other Private Propertys By:  Dept. Homeland Security [Storm Troopers/ S.A. / Brown Shirts,]with VEILED, NON-specific InDEFENSIBLE SECRET allegations, to the mere HYPERBOLY, CONtrived, Baseless assertions, to PREDICATE THEFTS!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Inspirations to: Felony CRIMINALITY, evinced, by the apparent escalations; by Government and Law Officios, to engage in the MULTIFARIOUS Fraud and Racketeering  ARTS, provided by: CONvienience via:&#8221; Government LICENSE to STEAL Private Property,&#8221; of  AMERICAN NATIONALS, under the express: artifices, schemes, devices, and Instruments of Frauds, including the specifically CONtrived CONvienient PRETENSES of: &#8220;ANONYINMITY&#8221; afforded through: the COVER of pretenses; of dubiously posed: &#8220;National Security CONcerns,&#8221; seem to have been precisely: EMBOLDENED, through the LEAD, of the Pretend POTUS&#8217;  &#8220;Chicago MOB; Political TACTICS, &#8220;including: mere Thuggery and Robbery, by Un-Lawful SEIZURES of Money [Debt NOTES,] Land , Vehicles and Other Private Propertys By:  Dept. Homeland Security [Storm Troopers/ S.A. / Brown Shirts,]with VEILED, NON-specific InDEFENSIBLE SECRET allegations, to the mere HYPERBOLY, CONtrived, Baseless assertions, to PREDICATE THEFTS!</p>
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		By: chunga		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chunga]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bingo!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo!</p>
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		By: Mad as Hell in Maryland		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mad as Hell in Maryland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[SUPERBLY SAID!  Hit the nail on the head!  (Out of the park, etc).

Its time to start fighting back!  Question everything.  Do your best to obtain loan level accounting.  Justice may actually be served.

Good luck to all.  Fight the good fight!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SUPERBLY SAID!  Hit the nail on the head!  (Out of the park, etc).</p>
<p>Its time to start fighting back!  Question everything.  Do your best to obtain loan level accounting.  Justice may actually be served.</p>
<p>Good luck to all.  Fight the good fight!</p>
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		By: housemanrob		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/08/29/the-market-ticker-foreclosuregate-housing-and-fraud/#comment-72481</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[housemanrob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, Now just get the courts and judges to see that point of view.....they do, but they are paid to rule for the banks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Now just get the courts and judges to see that point of view&#8230;..they do, but they are paid to rule for the banks!</p>
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