Naw Marilyn…..He is a bankster, stock broker, today’s brand of typical creep…..which is what we are dealing with now……..a troll….spouting his brand of fascist caspitalism….he epitomises the enemy!

Rob…Thanks for saying that for me……like I told him earlier to make his point and end it….this is some older guy who is in need of attention….it fills his day.

Talk to Tennessee…. Stop jousting with this guy……….he is totally fucking nuts!

Nice escape – but it disparages you as a coward.
Quote marks added below for your convenience. I did not realize this was your blog. Did you mean it was your thread? Also any confusion my edits cause will be an improvement and closer to the truth.
“tttennessee
I agree with the first of your response to my comment but have edited the last part as a further comment. We are not far apart. If you wish I will expound upon my edits.”
“Can you begin to see the anger with SOME banks and Wall Street corporations including a political FAILURE that allows them to accept FEDERAL money while their CEOs fly corporate owned jets, tax free (PROVE IT). They place their corporate offices overseas to avoid taxes and yet pay their CEO, CFO, COO officers bonuses worth millions to avoid more taxes on salaries. THE POLITICAL PARTIES have turned their backs on the people in the midst of their election circus.
So what to do?
When one loses his voice (SINCE WHEN? YOU ARE TALKING NOW) and is at risk of losing his vote (BS) in government, the only method left (MORE BS) is to demonstrate or take to the streets (STILL MORE BS). Yes, it is radical but peaceful demonstration has been used BEYOND the point of bloodshed to gain the right to vote for women and African Americans to gain equal human and civil rights.” IT TOOK VOTES IN CONGRESS AND A SIGNATURE IN THE OVAL OFFICE TO GAIN THESE, AND BLOODSHED INCLUDING A HUNDRED OR MORE YEARS OF VIOLENT PROTEST PLUS THE CIVIL WAR. YOUR PITIFUL “OCCUPY WALL STREET” IS JUST THE TANTRUM OF INCONVENIENCED BRATS AT THE CANDY COUNTER. The words you use disclose your lack of understanding of the cause of our current economic disaster and your TRUE MOTIVE. While there may have been a plan by some to “cause” this problem, I am not convinced that oligarchs, plutocrats, or government caused this. Normal, everyday GREED caused it while almost no one foresaw the potential consequences of the house of cards they built with the lending parameters demanded by Barney Frank and his socialist and other supporters. Securitization of loans was already wide spread in credit card accounts and auto loans, far smaller contributors to the GNP than housing. A federal regulator named Brooksley Borne, who ran the CFTC during Clinton’s first term, warned, over and over again, of the danger these easy mortgage loans caused when securitized and sold, unregulated, to investors in retirement plans and municipal government accounts. Clinton fired her with Alan Greenspan’s approval, destroying her career. Where were you then, tttennessee, asleep, I presume, sucking your thumb? It is obvious that you are intelligent and verbose. Throw off your biases and put your brain to better use.
“Sometimes you just have to stand up and be counted. If we can’t stand up for what we believe is INTELLIGENT, we might as well sit down and keep our mouths shut.”

qwester:
I respectfully urge you not to line edit or alter original text regardless of analytical or critical intent. It confuses the reader and risks having original text inaccurately referenced. Everyone has a right to their views, thankfully at this point in time, but when you modify or rephrase within text even if capitalized or bracketed it is considered ‘inappropriate use,’ of the original, a definition of plagiarism. To be authentic one places sources within quotation marks, indentions, italics, defining and sources the original text. Follow the original quote and source with a marked summary, analysis, argument or critique in response.
I welcome dialogue with both those who agree or disagree with my views if they challenge my theories with responsible thought or sourced argument based on their belief. Resorting to personal attacks or descriptive adjectives fail to establish a platform on which to analyze opposing views. It is a little difficult to have a meaningful discussion when the rhetoric consists of non-relevant personal attacks on the individual yet fail to define the basis of dissent.
Other than to disparage or belittle the writers in the blog it is difficult to define your beliefs or the basis for your anger. People on the forum are serious about their plight and beliefs. It might be well to define your beliefs logically, sans personal attacks, or move on.

tttennessee
I agree with the first of your respose to my comment but have edited the last part as a further comment. We are not far apart. If you wish I will expound upon my edits.

Can you begin to see the anger with SOME banks and Wall Street corporations including a political FAILURE that allows them to accept FEDERAL money while their CEOs fly corporate owned jets, tax free (PROVE IT). They place their corporate offices overseas to avoid taxes and yet pay their CEO, CFO, COO officers bonuses worth millions to avoid more taxes on salaries. THE POLITICAL PARTIES have turned their backs on the people in the midst of their election circus.
So what to do?
When one loses his voice (SINCE WHEN? YOU ARE TALKING NOW) and is at risk of losing his vote (BS) in government, the only method left (MORE BS) is to demonstrate or take to the streets (STILL MORE BS). Yes, it is radical but peaceful demonstration has been used BEYOND the point of bloodshed to gain the right to vote for women and African Americans to gain equal human and civil rights. IT TOOK VOTES IN CONGRESS AND A SIGNATURE IN THE OVAL OFFICE TO GAIN THESE, AND BLOODSHED INCLUDING A HUNDRED OR MORE YEARS OF VIOLENT PROTEST PLUS THE CIVIL WAR. YOUR PITIFUL “OCCUPY WALL STREET” IS JUST THE TANTRUM OF INCONVENIENCED BRATS AT THE CANDY COUNTER. The words you use disclose your lack of understanding of the cause of our current economic disaster and your TRUE MOTIVE. While there may have been a plan by some to “cause” this problem, I am not convinced that oligarchs, plutocrats, or government caused this. Normal, everyday GREED caused it while almost no one foresaw the potential consequences of the house of cards they built with the lending parameters demanded by Barney Frank and his socialist and other supporters. Securitization of loans was already wide spread in credit card accounts and auto loans, far smaller contributors to the GNP than housing. A federal regulator named Brooksley Borne, who ran the CFTC during Clinton’s first term, warned, over and over again, of the danger these easy mortgage loans caused when securitized and sold, unregulated, to investors in retirement plans and municipal government accounts. Clinton fired her with Alan Greenspan’s approval, destroying her career. Where were you then, tttennessee, asleep, I presume, sucking your thumb? It is obvious that you are intelligent and verbose. Throw off your biases and put your brain to better use.
Sometimes you just have to stand up and be counted. If we can’t stand up for what we believe is INTELLIGENT, we might as well sit down and keep our mouths shut.

Tom, Re: The Fed
Well, now there you have it. This monitoring is the fallout from our Homeland Security and Patriot Act. We may have missed 1984 but it looks like “big brother” is alive and well!

Our grandparents went through rationing, depressions, the dust bowl and hardships that taught them to be frugal. You are correct in that the current generation fails to remember the hard fought lessons of our wars. One benefit of WWII was the baby boomers whose birth, youth and ingenuity drove the economy to expansion. It was inevitable that they would wind down and be replaced by a generation that had life much easier and privileged, a perfect storm for a run on buying on credit when income begins to wane. Outsourcing jobs, deregulation, greed let the banks create a perfect spot to offer exotic mortgage backed investments, securities that made the banks a fortune. They had no skin in the game, handing it off to investors with the ‘right to service’ the loans and make more money in fees. The banks and mortgage companies raked in billions. The housing bubble held up the economy artificially with inflated housing values. Banks literally trade in houses. Having watched destructive lending and predatory practices for 8-9 years, as an appraiser in the industry, I began to see it crumble in 2005-06. Now appraisers are handicapped because our industry was based on relatively stable or rising value. We are forced into two markets, one for distressed property and a smaller normal arms-length market. Distressed sales of bank owned properties (REOs) exceed normal sales. Like our political scene, the housing industry is paralyzed and hanging on life support. Those who would buy, can’t , those who would sell, can’t. Their homes are worth less than they owe.

The chink in all of this is that recovery is complicated by fraud and deception that will play out in the courts, even now beginning to escalate in massive litigation, most of it from investors and government entities, trying to shake a dollar out of the banks, who are sitting on their reserves, waiting for an inevitable doomsday or a financial armageddon. Some are showing cracks in their ‘clay’ foundations right now. The solution is not simple. Austerity is forced on all of us or soon will be. The house of cards is coming down, reducing demand, resulting in more lost jobs and the vicious cycle goes on. Now China, our cheap purchasing resource is beginning to feel ‘our’ reduced demand.

When you have cut everywhere you can cut and it isn’t enough, what remains is anger when you see bank CEOs making millions, sitting on the profits of predatory and deceptive practices that cheated investors and homeowners on both ends. Investors will sue and exact an ounce of flesh from the pound they lost but people like us, losing our homes, because we have reduced income, lost our jobs, having few resources for recovery,what do we do? One wrote on our blog recently of having no money and little will left to fight. Banks either won’t or can’t accept responsibility to modify mortgages or correct the faults. They could reduce principal to market the 20-30% value loss they would be required to do if they foreclosed, but NO. Banks flatly refuse to remedy the chaos their predatory practices cause. They still try to sweep their deception and fraud under the rug.
Can you begin to see the anger with banks and Wall Street corporations including a political system that allows them to accept taxpayer money while their CEOs fly corporate owned jets, tax free. They place their corporate offices overseas to avoid taxes and yet pay their CEO, CFO, COO officers bonuses worth millions to avoid more taxes on salaries. Washington has turned their backs on the people in the midst of their election circus.
So what to do?
When one loses his voice and is at risk of losing his vote in government, the only method left is to demonstrate or take to the streets. Yes, it is radical but peaceful demonstration has been used to the point of bloodshed to gain the right to vote for women and African Americans to gain equal human and civil rights.

Sometimes you just have to stand up and be counted. If we can’t stand up for what we believe is right, we might as well sit down and keep our mouths shut.

talktotennessee,
Yours is a rational statement which I support regarding a need to repair the government. I do disagree regarding your method of reforming it. The only available method is to amend the constitution. Too few Americans are upset over things beyond their own circumstances to achieve that difficult end. The middle class sees the protests as a fad that will pass. They use the bottom economic third as a measure of their success and expect it to be there forever. They are the true oligarchs because they provide the jobs. We are enthralled to electronic gadgets and endless fantasy and spend spend spend (thereby requiring a job). I dannot see the street protests accomplishing anything but a waste of time and money that could be used to promote new young legislators who have the brains, intellect, wisdom and ethics to pursue a practcal and honest solution.

Qwester….Where are you? We need your ignorant rants…..helps keep us in touch with the fact that there are truly ignorant trolls among us………unless you are a banker or associate, in which case hell will be your final place of unrest. Think you can’t suffer in hell for eternity….think about it for a while!