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	Comments on: Obama &#124; &#8220;One of the biggest problems” of the financial crisis is that “a lot of that stuff wasn’t necessarily illegal; it was just immoral or inappropriate or reckless.”	</title>
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		By: Miles Sheperd, author of "The Human Experience"		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/10/06/obama-one-of-the-biggest-problems-of-the-financial-crisis-is-that-a-lot-of-that-stuff-wasnt-necessarily-illegal-it-was-just-immoral-or-inappropriate-or-reckless/#comment-124912</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[This statement is proof that the banks own Obama and he must, therefore, defend their illegal position.

In order to be a politician you must first be a lawyer or be able to fully comprehend how to write or speak in that lingo.  The latin definition of lawyer means:  to twist.  Take note that this statement is a pure example from a defensive political position. 

If you look at this statement the message is clearly unclear as part 1 implies:  &quot;a lot of that stuff was&#039;nt necessarily illegal&quot;.  This fragment really doesn&#039;t admit to anything and has no factual basis.  It is an intended beginning to more meaningless banter. 

By using the words &quot;a lot of that stuff&quot;  really doesn&#039;t point to anything at all.  Furthermore,  if  &quot;a lot of that stuff wasn&#039;t illegal&quot;  then why didn&#039;t he just say it outright?  Instead he adds &quot;necessarily&quot;  to front illegal.  Another term added to cloud his unsure position in the statement.  This statement was Intentionally written and very deceptive in it&#039;s context, primarily intended to defend and admit to nothing in particular.

In part 2 of this statement he uses the words &quot;it was just immoral or inappropriate or reckless.  Again, these terms are used to give the impression and support  to the unclear part inthe first part of his statement  &quot;that a lot of that stuff wasn&#039;t neccessarily illegal.&quot;  Immoral, inappropriate or reckless actions may or may not be illegal, more ambiguity.

All in all, a very weak and meaningless statement that is apparantly accepted to defend his owners, but easily dismantled by the 99% that can see right through his words and any of his inappropriate, immoral and reckless intentions as the worst bought president ever.  Come on bankers, you can do better than that, can&#039;t you?

Any real leader, worth his salt, would speak to the people in a straight forward style and say what he means and mean what he says.  Their words should be clear and on point.  The only time a lawyer goes off point is when they try to defend their weak position, which is what Obama has done here.

Take a lesson from some of the great leaders of our time and stay on your point!  If it is truthful then there will be no need to defend your position.  Stay strong and build your point from a postion of strength and truth. 
 
Over time this strategy will define for us all what real power feels like, then watch out all you liars!!!

Miles]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This statement is proof that the banks own Obama and he must, therefore, defend their illegal position.</p>
<p>In order to be a politician you must first be a lawyer or be able to fully comprehend how to write or speak in that lingo.  The latin definition of lawyer means:  to twist.  Take note that this statement is a pure example from a defensive political position. </p>
<p>If you look at this statement the message is clearly unclear as part 1 implies:  &#8220;a lot of that stuff was&#8217;nt necessarily illegal&#8221;.  This fragment really doesn&#8217;t admit to anything and has no factual basis.  It is an intended beginning to more meaningless banter. </p>
<p>By using the words &#8220;a lot of that stuff&#8221;  really doesn&#8217;t point to anything at all.  Furthermore,  if  &#8220;a lot of that stuff wasn&#8217;t illegal&#8221;  then why didn&#8217;t he just say it outright?  Instead he adds &#8220;necessarily&#8221;  to front illegal.  Another term added to cloud his unsure position in the statement.  This statement was Intentionally written and very deceptive in it&#8217;s context, primarily intended to defend and admit to nothing in particular.</p>
<p>In part 2 of this statement he uses the words &#8220;it was just immoral or inappropriate or reckless.  Again, these terms are used to give the impression and support  to the unclear part inthe first part of his statement  &#8220;that a lot of that stuff wasn&#8217;t neccessarily illegal.&#8221;  Immoral, inappropriate or reckless actions may or may not be illegal, more ambiguity.</p>
<p>All in all, a very weak and meaningless statement that is apparantly accepted to defend his owners, but easily dismantled by the 99% that can see right through his words and any of his inappropriate, immoral and reckless intentions as the worst bought president ever.  Come on bankers, you can do better than that, can&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>Any real leader, worth his salt, would speak to the people in a straight forward style and say what he means and mean what he says.  Their words should be clear and on point.  The only time a lawyer goes off point is when they try to defend their weak position, which is what Obama has done here.</p>
<p>Take a lesson from some of the great leaders of our time and stay on your point!  If it is truthful then there will be no need to defend your position.  Stay strong and build your point from a postion of strength and truth. </p>
<p>Over time this strategy will define for us all what real power feels like, then watch out all you liars!!!</p>
<p>Miles</p>
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		By: Hell No, No More Blasted Bank Bail-Outs		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/10/06/obama-one-of-the-biggest-problems-of-the-financial-crisis-is-that-a-lot-of-that-stuff-wasnt-necessarily-illegal-it-was-just-immoral-or-inappropriate-or-reckless/#comment-120400</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 03:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We are hearing PROPAGANDA from Obama. The Obamanation machine has to kick into gear to steer his supporters away from Occupy Wallstreet where he is seeing his union members flock.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are hearing PROPAGANDA from Obama. The Obamanation machine has to kick into gear to steer his supporters away from Occupy Wallstreet where he is seeing his union members flock.</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/10/06/obama-one-of-the-biggest-problems-of-the-financial-crisis-is-that-a-lot-of-that-stuff-wasnt-necessarily-illegal-it-was-just-immoral-or-inappropriate-or-reckless/#comment-118812</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 23:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/10/06/obama-one-of-the-biggest-problems-of-the-financial-crisis-is-that-a-lot-of-that-stuff-wasnt-necessarily-illegal-it-was-just-immoral-or-inappropriate-or-reckless/#comment-118805&quot;&gt;lvent&lt;/a&gt;.

you tube search Plunder, A Wall Street Story...gotta watch this....it talks all about the 140 trillion in debt these bastards created out of thin air....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/10/06/obama-one-of-the-biggest-problems-of-the-financial-crisis-is-that-a-lot-of-that-stuff-wasnt-necessarily-illegal-it-was-just-immoral-or-inappropriate-or-reckless/#comment-118805">lvent</a>.</p>
<p>you tube search Plunder, A Wall Street Story&#8230;gotta watch this&#8230;.it talks all about the 140 trillion in debt these bastards created out of thin air&#8230;.</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/10/06/obama-one-of-the-biggest-problems-of-the-financial-crisis-is-that-a-lot-of-that-stuff-wasnt-necessarily-illegal-it-was-just-immoral-or-inappropriate-or-reckless/#comment-118805</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 23:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am going to try and post Danny Schecter&#039;s fantastic documentary, Plunder, A Wall Street Story...which aired on RT NEWS a couple of weeks ago...If it does not post, please you tube search it.. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHGlYoOyQw&#038;feature=related]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to try and post Danny Schecter&#8217;s fantastic documentary, Plunder, A Wall Street Story&#8230;which aired on RT NEWS a couple of weeks ago&#8230;If it does not post, please you tube search it..<br />
<iframe class="youtube-player" width="1140" height="642" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/aHGlYoOyQw?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;fs=1&#038;hl=en-US&#038;autohide=2&#038;wmode=transparent" allowfullscreen="true" style="border:0;" sandbox="allow-scripts allow-same-origin allow-popups allow-presentation allow-popups-to-escape-sandbox"></iframe></p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/10/06/obama-one-of-the-biggest-problems-of-the-financial-crisis-is-that-a-lot-of-that-stuff-wasnt-necessarily-illegal-it-was-just-immoral-or-inappropriate-or-reckless/#comment-118339</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 16:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/10/06/obama-one-of-the-biggest-problems-of-the-financial-crisis-is-that-a-lot-of-that-stuff-wasnt-necessarily-illegal-it-was-just-immoral-or-inappropriate-or-reckless/#comment-118312&quot;&gt;leapfrog&lt;/a&gt;.

I was doing some research last night and found out, Obama is a Fabian Socialist...Google it...and Ron Paul is a member of the John Birch Society..Google it....They are all evil.....hoodwinked is their motto...I read the Fabian Socialists are a very conspiratorial organization that uses systematically the standard Communist techniques of infiltration and deception to undermine and eventually destroy the United States to enslave the American People....The Fabian Socialist and the Communist Party are merely two tentacles of a single octopus...The Fabians represent an organized conspiracy to destroy by deceit.....This fact they have themselves admitted...  
The basic principles that all americans must learn and apply every waking hour of the day is that public pronouncements made or instigated by members of the Conspiracy  NEVER mean precisely what they say.....To grasp the real meaning you must first correct them by making the conversions indicated for (a) the particular audience that the writer or speaker is trying to bamboozle, and (b) the specific objective that the conspiracy is trying to attain....Two books written by Harvard Professors are supposed to be the most important books of our time that speak about this vast International conspiracy and must be studied and heeded or if we do not, we will be lost......&quot;Keynes At Harvard&quot;  and  The Great Deceit&quot;  Social Pseudo Sciences by the staff of the Veritas Foundation....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/10/06/obama-one-of-the-biggest-problems-of-the-financial-crisis-is-that-a-lot-of-that-stuff-wasnt-necessarily-illegal-it-was-just-immoral-or-inappropriate-or-reckless/#comment-118312">leapfrog</a>.</p>
<p>I was doing some research last night and found out, Obama is a Fabian Socialist&#8230;Google it&#8230;and Ron Paul is a member of the John Birch Society..Google it&#8230;.They are all evil&#8230;..hoodwinked is their motto&#8230;I read the Fabian Socialists are a very conspiratorial organization that uses systematically the standard Communist techniques of infiltration and deception to undermine and eventually destroy the United States to enslave the American People&#8230;.The Fabian Socialist and the Communist Party are merely two tentacles of a single octopus&#8230;The Fabians represent an organized conspiracy to destroy by deceit&#8230;..This fact they have themselves admitted&#8230;<br />
The basic principles that all americans must learn and apply every waking hour of the day is that public pronouncements made or instigated by members of the Conspiracy  NEVER mean precisely what they say&#8230;..To grasp the real meaning you must first correct them by making the conversions indicated for (a) the particular audience that the writer or speaker is trying to bamboozle, and (b) the specific objective that the conspiracy is trying to attain&#8230;.Two books written by Harvard Professors are supposed to be the most important books of our time that speak about this vast International conspiracy and must be studied and heeded or if we do not, we will be lost&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;Keynes At Harvard&#8221;  and  The Great Deceit&#8221;  Social Pseudo Sciences by the staff of the Veritas Foundation&#8230;.</p>
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		By: leapfrog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 15:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/10/06/obama-one-of-the-biggest-problems-of-the-financial-crisis-is-that-a-lot-of-that-stuff-wasnt-necessarily-illegal-it-was-just-immoral-or-inappropriate-or-reckless/#comment-117375&quot;&gt;JJ&lt;/a&gt;.

Ok, everyone.  Read this:  http://www.efinancialnews.com/story/2010-01-22/key-quotes-from-obamas-speech

I&#039;m not liking how O has flip-flopped and I voted for him.  As Yves Smith on Naked Capitalism says, he is a Rubinite and a &quot;Wall Street Democrat.&quot;  And as far as me voting for O again?  As A-Man on Neil&#039;s site says, &quot;NEVER AGAIN.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/10/06/obama-one-of-the-biggest-problems-of-the-financial-crisis-is-that-a-lot-of-that-stuff-wasnt-necessarily-illegal-it-was-just-immoral-or-inappropriate-or-reckless/#comment-117375">JJ</a>.</p>
<p>Ok, everyone.  Read this:  <a href="http://www.efinancialnews.com/story/2010-01-22/key-quotes-from-obamas-speech" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.efinancialnews.com/story/2010-01-22/key-quotes-from-obamas-speech</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not liking how O has flip-flopped and I voted for him.  As Yves Smith on Naked Capitalism says, he is a Rubinite and a &#8220;Wall Street Democrat.&#8221;  And as far as me voting for O again?  As A-Man on Neil&#8217;s site says, &#8220;NEVER AGAIN.&#8221;</p>
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		By: kravitz		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 15:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For 2012, I will vote for local candidates who support financial reform. Meaning at this point, I will leave the &#039;President&#039; category blank. If there was a &#039;none of the above&#039; option, I would do that. While I&#039;m not suggesting all of us do that, it is something you should let other know if you are planning to do so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For 2012, I will vote for local candidates who support financial reform. Meaning at this point, I will leave the &#8216;President&#8217; category blank. If there was a &#8216;none of the above&#8217; option, I would do that. While I&#8217;m not suggesting all of us do that, it is something you should let other know if you are planning to do so.</p>
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		By: incognito123		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mary, I&#039;ve been saying that for a while now.  Beyond that, I think the commentary says enough and it all!
Bullshit…
They broke the law…
I can come up with more than enough crimes committed to lock all the perpetrators up for life…]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary, I&#8217;ve been saying that for a while now.  Beyond that, I think the commentary says enough and it all!<br />
Bullshit…<br />
They broke the law…<br />
I can come up with more than enough crimes committed to lock all the perpetrators up for life…</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 04:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yet people wonder why the Occupy Wall Street movement is gaining so much momentum. It&#039;s from comments like that from our own President.  Now the written word and the spoken word can often have 2 different meanings. I did not see the interview or speach where Obama made these comments. From the written word, it&#039;s NOT GOOD. 

These Occupy movements are trying to be peaceful protests.  My gut tells me that Civil Unrest is just around the corner. People are going to stop being quiet and patiently protesting.  I think the phrase that comes to mind is &#039;I&#039;m mad as hell, and not going to take it any more!&#039; 

For the times, they are a changin&#039;  ~Bob Dylan]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet people wonder why the Occupy Wall Street movement is gaining so much momentum. It&#8217;s from comments like that from our own President.  Now the written word and the spoken word can often have 2 different meanings. I did not see the interview or speach where Obama made these comments. From the written word, it&#8217;s NOT GOOD. </p>
<p>These Occupy movements are trying to be peaceful protests.  My gut tells me that Civil Unrest is just around the corner. People are going to stop being quiet and patiently protesting.  I think the phrase that comes to mind is &#8216;I&#8217;m mad as hell, and not going to take it any more!&#8217; </p>
<p>For the times, they are a changin&#8217;  ~Bob Dylan</p>
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		By: Marilyn Abdilla		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 03:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/10/06/obama-one-of-the-biggest-problems-of-the-financial-crisis-is-that-a-lot-of-that-stuff-wasnt-necessarily-illegal-it-was-just-immoral-or-inappropriate-or-reckless/#comment-117375&quot;&gt;JJ&lt;/a&gt;.

JJ say&#039;s....I think you may have imagined he said  that....Others who are well informed on all that is going on did not hear him say that......so let&#039;s not give credit where credit is not due.  His voice has been silent for almost 3 years now  and there has been NO HELP from Obama for the people of this country..... and he does not plan on giving any help....WAKE UP JJ......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/10/06/obama-one-of-the-biggest-problems-of-the-financial-crisis-is-that-a-lot-of-that-stuff-wasnt-necessarily-illegal-it-was-just-immoral-or-inappropriate-or-reckless/#comment-117375">JJ</a>.</p>
<p>JJ say&#8217;s&#8230;.I think you may have imagined he said  that&#8230;.Others who are well informed on all that is going on did not hear him say that&#8230;&#8230;so let&#8217;s not give credit where credit is not due.  His voice has been silent for almost 3 years now  and there has been NO HELP from Obama for the people of this country&#8230;.. and he does not plan on giving any help&#8230;.WAKE UP JJ&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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