Readdocs, They lied and deceived us about EVERYTHING,..I always knew we rented the land from the Government, I just didn’t know it was a foreign one….Half truths, the politicians are masters at that…That is what is causing the whole uprising..massive lies and deceptions by the Government(s)….they don’t own our homes though so they should call it a truce and give us clear title back to our homes the dirty bastards..They lent us no money these two faced conivers. That is why there is feudalism going on right now in courts across America…with the people who get it who are not very many last I checked..Maybe a little lmore than 10 percent now are fighting the good fight. This precisely why our forefathers left Europe…to escape Government hoarding and tyranny…! The Occupy movement needs to get the word out, fight for clear title to your homes America…it may be all we have left…If we allow them to steal our homes, the New World Order will have conquered America by plain out lying, deceiving and stealing….9/11 was the begining of the cover up for the robbery of America….The protestors really need to put their focus on how they are stealing our homes for debts that Walll Street owes and how the building of our homes was really funded…..The U.S. TAXPAYER…IT WAS A PONZI SCHEME WITH TAX PAYER DOLLARS AND THE FRAUDULENTLY INDUCED MORTGAGE PAYMENTS FUELED THE SCAM…..Those mortgage payments allowed them to overleverage themeselves exponentially….They took the U.S. TAXPAYER CREDIT CARD and went 6oo trillion over their limit….Time to shine the light on these crooks….This was about GREED ….not monetary greed…..they have plenty of that, this was about WORLD DOMINATION BY THE NEW WORLD ORDER…..THEY WANT WE THE PEOPLE TO OWN NOTHING OF VALUE…A NATION OF RENTERS…THEY STOLE OUR WEALTH JOBS, AND MILLIONS OF HOMES FOR A REASON….NOT BECA– USE WE THE PEOPLE DID ANYTHING WRONG….THIS WAS A HITLER PLAN TO STEAL OUR HOMES, THEY NEVER OWNED…..THEY WANT OUR NATIONAL SOVERIEGNTY….FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT…! RESTORE THE U.S. CONSTITUTION BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL FORM…ABOLISH THE FED….DON’T VOTE FOR THE REPUBS AND DEMS..! WRITE IN YOUR CANDIDATE ON A PAPER BALLOT..DO NOT GIVE UP!!! THIS IS OUR COUNTRY THEY ARE TRYING TO STEAL…TRAITORS FROM WITHIN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT ARE AIDING AND ABETTING THE NEW WORLD ORDER..ROUT THEM AND EXPOSE THEM..AND THROW THEM OUT OF AMERICA!!!

I vent….typo…..see no evil…hear no evil…speak no evil…….sorry about that…

I vent. .Like I said in Florida they are to prove with the Note in order to foreclose…..now I find it real odd that all the homes in Florida that the people lost in court……that all those times the bank had the Note…I cannot believe it….maybe a copy of it but not the original….that is what they pulled in the first foreclosure filing for my daughter….they actually wrote that it was a copy of the original they held…the judge did not go for it…..
But I did not know that about Nixon…he was not one of my favorite people….I kinda blew him off too…and I did not know the land was sold right from under all of us…..but I believe you…I think more shit has gone on for many years that this country has no idea…..like I read where the National Parks belong to the NWO….not sure who did that….but whoever did it should be hung from the tallest tree in one of the parks…and left for the vultures to feast.
So you say fee simple was on the foreclosure papers…..I will check my daughters papers on that….. well..if someone else owns the land than they can pay to keep it up….and my labor is not cheap…..You know the more I hear the more pissed off I get….it has been nothing but a complete hugh lie and a scam that our government has done….. just like the World Bank…mid 40’s and the United States President nominates the ‘ ceo ‘ every 5 years..that is who gets the job… and it has always been a U.S. citizen in charge of the World Bank and the United States is the largest shareholder by far in that bank AND the EVIL owns that bank…..an enemy to our country. ….excuse me…something is wrong with this picture……and word has it Hillary Clinton is looking to be the next chosen for that position…..that’s right folks…the U.S. is the biggie shareholder…real cozy with ROME……and than to hear the land is sold from under us….the rabbits hole keeps getting bigger and deeper……and now they…the same evil has robbed the country of everything….as the government played they see no evil, see no evil and speak no evil….

Ivent, and all. Every piece of the north american continent does indeed go back to the
very first europeans who stepped on its soil. Those are the foreign entities who claimed
where they traveled. It’s in our american history that is no longer taught.
And here is something everyone should read, and I do disagree with the author frequently.
http://livinglies.wordpress.com/2011/10/27/required-reading-whether-the-mortgage-is-perfected/#comments

What he is posting is something I’ve considered to be truth about freedom, real freedom.
Many of you here know we are not truly free, and haven’t been for over a hundred years.
Pass it on, maybe even more will wake up to the sunlight of truth!

I vent……In Florida they have to prove with the original Note…..but … as far as I know…and I might be wrong…I don’t think the courts are requiring it…..if the original is destroyed ……how are the banks proving standing ….being they don’t have the original? Just what are they using or doing in court to sway the judge? It appears it .depends on how the judge feels that day…..or is it an act of going thru the motions since it is a court case.? I think of all the homes that are given to the banks…this just does not even make sense. We are told the frauds are very hard to prove… if at all…and the banks refuse to comply with the Request to Produce…and the courts slide that right by…and the banks cannot produce the original note….and they get the house….. the court is robbing the people of their homes and justice…..rather disgusting……

I vent..did you read my comment up above about the note.?…I see where you ask Rob if his lawyers filed a motion to compel…Request to Produce..the prima facie evidence…..the Note was destroyed when paid….the copy of the Note stamped without recourse and signed is kept by the bank…the bank lawyers ( Mills) probably get copies of the note and mortgage. from the title co. from the closing file..to put into the foreclosure summons…..cause in Florida the Note is not recorded…just the mortgage is…….if the Note is destroyed when paid… that there say’s the 2 documents were split…They cannot be split cause that leaves the Note unsecured…BUT they cashed the note right away…and got paid for something they didn’t invest any money in….. That makes the contract null and void….and all the payments that they took thru their greed was a scam… ..The bank hides the paid note thinking the homeowner will never know or figure out the scam…But there is no original note..at least that is what I have found and figured out. If there was…. the bank would show it at the beginning of the foreclosure as they are suppose to do…and they can’t….that is why I think you are finding you need something other than frauds….. And with Rob’s case..the lawyers already know what is needed to compel in the request..but I feel they know they will not see the original note …it’s destroyed..and the banks refuse to comply…….. Would you not agree with me on this issue? In the foreclosure the banks are not putting the true document of the Note that they have on file…..they are just putting a copy of the note as at the closing….and they know very few people would even know of the paid note….this is all hidden…and only a screw up at the bank would release a true copy of the note already cashed….I understand this is very hard to get….many motions hoping to get the one screw up……but may be the straw that breaks the bankers back. Think about it…it is not the frauds ..like they say it is almost impossible or is impossible to prove fraud…….it’s the copy of the paid Note with the stamp of endorsement without recourse and signed…..the fraud in the foreclosure is the copy of the note is not the copy the bank has hidden…… They had this all planned down to the end………

Marilyn, did you know that all of the land our homes sit on can be traced back to a Foreign Sovereign? That’s right…In my fraudclosure filing it says…Interest subject to the mortgage: Fee simple….Did you know that Nixon gave alot of our land up as collateral to the U.N. to free up credit.?..As a result of that the U.N. who is really the Vatican, holds alot of our land in fee simple…Now I traced my lot to landirks who I traced to India and maybe China. But we all know that the Vatican hoarder no doubt found a way to sell interests in our land to other nations just like the mortages..I watched an interview with ex-fed chairman Paul Volker last night…he said China is invested in the mortgages, but indirectly…The U.S Government did not pay back that debt by now? There is alot of bullshit that has gone on right under our noses by some real traitors..They are causing feudalism in America now over all of their treasonist lies and deceptions… An alloidal title is where you purchase the land…we are really just renting it..that is why we pay taxes on it…we rent the land our homes sit on and now they want us to rent the house too…they can shove that…dirty crooks…Our tax money paid for these homes….and this land..

Marilyn, check this article out…AS HOME VALUES FALL, PROPERTY TAX REVOLT BREWS….
http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2009/0402/as-home-values-fall-property-tax-revolt-brews

BTW, Marilyn, in Illinois they have to prove up the note in order to be granted a fraudclosure……I told the pretender lenders attorney the note is unendorsed and that means they have to prove the transfer…My husband told the attorney this was a wet ink note, he smudged the signature in the hall way and the attorney told him no, that smudge was on there….LOL……I know the original note has to be destroyed after they sell it off to Wall Street…and they turn it into a stock…it can’t be converted back to a note…I told the attorney I want to see the PSA and such and such…he said to ask for it in discovery…unless I want to file another motion to dismiss…..It is vertigo out there in foreclosureland. I have to answer by next week…still unsure of what I want to do…I think I want to file a motion to strike the Plaintiffs amended complaint and a motion to dismiss the foreclosure…I have alot of homework to do this weekend….Gotta find the right statutes and and codes and such..I can’t believe they can even bring a foreclosure suit in this State without having filed an assignment…they have to prove up the note to be granted the foreclosure..and they obviously do not have the right stuff or they would have recorded it in the first place..This is all a big farce and all of the attorneys in this state really suck for not helping their fellow man….. This is their country too. Idiots..

Marilyn, I know that by now..they have to show proof of standing and it is very complicated to know what to file if you are not an attorney.These are very complicated procedures…There are very little protections for consumers either, you are going on a wing and a prayer let me tell you…I know all about the original notes being destroyed.I have done alot of homework but that does not make me an attorney and that does not guarantee me from them trying to pull every trick in the book…… They are now trying to enter the “original” note in the second amended complaint and are trying to plead false evidence..Proving they don’t have the prima facie evidence is proving they committed fraud…I am trying to have my case dismissed on the altering of the mortgage contract after the signing and other frauds…not one proper release or assignment has been recorded at the recorders office in 19 years and the clerk at the recorders office told me because of that, my house is paid for..Now I have to convince the Judge….I should not need an affadavit to prove the mortgage was altered, I have the original and the recorded forgery… the fraud is apparent on its face.Altering a contract after signing is a Class 3 Felony in my state…An attorney told me the Judge should give me clear title to my house for that FRAUD……It is easier said than done…These Judges aren’t giving houses away so easy in a courtroom packed with homeowners in fraudclosure…I read on a site that if you ask the lender for the QWR, debt validation letter and go throught the discovery process the bank withdraws their case….This is a complicated mess, I am fighting 2 fraudclosures pro se..My house and my commercial property…and it is incredibly stressful…It is easy to say do this or that but it has to be done right and the Judge has to buy the argument…. What we are doing is, trying to PROVE THEY COMMITTED FRAUD IN OUR NAMES..That is what no standing means…they are trying to take something they have no legal right to take…that is FRAUD…..It is all about the FRAUD, from the Origination Fraud to the Fraudclosure…ONE GIANT LOAN FRAUD MESS…You have to target the fatal flaw that you think the judge will buy to dismiss the case and it has to be proven. I have been told by an attorney that one fatal flaw in my case is the altering of the mortgage contract after the closing.They also stamped over forgeries in the fraudclosure complaint which is apparent on its face as well…and I think I know who altered the mortgage contract after the closing…..Chicago Title and Trust.. I just might need to have an affadavit dropped on PATRICIA PICARD… the escrowee, who is also the Illinois notary for the bank….This should be interesting to say the least…Her name has been all over my loan history since 1992 but I can’t find her….things that make you go hmmmmm……