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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-247555</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2011 04:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have been trying to get onto the Kemp v Countrywide link at this site for 2 days...It keeps freezing up..What the bleep is going on?  It is not like that is something new that they would want to freeze or block it..or maybe more and more people are finding out the truth and fighting their fraudlclosures...I have a terrible time with Scribed as well..I can hardly ever read something on there without  it freezing up...I have noticed they are blocking and hiding access to alot more information on the internet...Anyone else having these problems?...I probably have a copy of that case somewhere, if I dig around.,...That is why if you find something good, you should copy it right away..and file it away...You never know when it could apply to your own case...The bank attorney admitted to me and my husband in court 2 weeks ago that the loan was never never delivered to the trust..there is no trust, there is no trustee or PSA agreement..I have to answer the second amended complaint soon with affirmative defenses...Any attorneys or pro se defendants here at this site have an opinion about UCC Article 3-404, and 3-406 and 3-407 in regards to fraud and forgery?...I believe the title co altered the mortgage after the closing and forged our initials next to the forgery...Or should I just go after standing since they obviously do not have the proper docs...In Illinois party in due course can win a fraudclosure though I do not believe they even can win that argument...they committed securities fraud right? Isn&#039;t that a felony as well as the fraud and forgery..should I bring it all in on my defenses and request a hearing or a jury trial...?  I have tried to have my case dismissed twice on the fraud and forgery and the Judge won&#039;t budge...The fraud and forgery is apparent on the face of the documents...If someone could give me some advice I would really appreciate it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been trying to get onto the Kemp v Countrywide link at this site for 2 days&#8230;It keeps freezing up..What the bleep is going on?  It is not like that is something new that they would want to freeze or block it..or maybe more and more people are finding out the truth and fighting their fraudlclosures&#8230;I have a terrible time with Scribed as well..I can hardly ever read something on there without  it freezing up&#8230;I have noticed they are blocking and hiding access to alot more information on the internet&#8230;Anyone else having these problems?&#8230;I probably have a copy of that case somewhere, if I dig around.,&#8230;That is why if you find something good, you should copy it right away..and file it away&#8230;You never know when it could apply to your own case&#8230;The bank attorney admitted to me and my husband in court 2 weeks ago that the loan was never never delivered to the trust..there is no trust, there is no trustee or PSA agreement..I have to answer the second amended complaint soon with affirmative defenses&#8230;Any attorneys or pro se defendants here at this site have an opinion about UCC Article 3-404, and 3-406 and 3-407 in regards to fraud and forgery?&#8230;I believe the title co altered the mortgage after the closing and forged our initials next to the forgery&#8230;Or should I just go after standing since they obviously do not have the proper docs&#8230;In Illinois party in due course can win a fraudclosure though I do not believe they even can win that argument&#8230;they committed securities fraud right? Isn&#8217;t that a felony as well as the fraud and forgery..should I bring it all in on my defenses and request a hearing or a jury trial&#8230;?  I have tried to have my case dismissed twice on the fraud and forgery and the Judge won&#8217;t budge&#8230;The fraud and forgery is apparent on the face of the documents&#8230;If someone could give me some advice I would really appreciate it.</p>
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		By: George W. Mantor		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-247324</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George W. Mantor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2011 20:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-245749&quot;&gt;P Nach&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m sure you are right. I don&#039;t know what I got all worked up about. Everything is just fine. Our govt. is completely trustworthy and loves the constitution too much to ever take away our rights. I know they sure wouldn&#039;t run guns to drug cartels or launder their money for them. I know they would not secretly print trillions of dollars and give it to banks and foreign entities. I know they wouldn&#039;t take service members remains and toss them in the landfill so it&#039;s all good.

The problem with the bill is the impercise language and wiggle room allowing for too much discretion but let&#039;s both get another glass of cool-aid, P Nach, and hope for a happy ending.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-245749">P Nach</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you are right. I don&#8217;t know what I got all worked up about. Everything is just fine. Our govt. is completely trustworthy and loves the constitution too much to ever take away our rights. I know they sure wouldn&#8217;t run guns to drug cartels or launder their money for them. I know they would not secretly print trillions of dollars and give it to banks and foreign entities. I know they wouldn&#8217;t take service members remains and toss them in the landfill so it&#8217;s all good.</p>
<p>The problem with the bill is the impercise language and wiggle room allowing for too much discretion but let&#8217;s both get another glass of cool-aid, P Nach, and hope for a happy ending.</p>
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		By: P Nach		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-245749</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P Nach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Forgot the link to the legislation.
Here it is: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1867es/pdf/BILLS-112s1867es.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot the link to the legislation.<br />
Here it is: <a href="http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1867es/pdf/BILLS-112s1867es.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112s1867es/pdf/BILLS-112s1867es.pdf</a></p>
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		By: P Nach		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-245746</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P Nach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 22:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[EVERYONE should go directly to the legislation as presented in the US Senate and READ it!  Good Grief, don&#039;t take anyone&#039;s word for what&#039;s in the bill or for what&#039;s not in the bill.  Read it for yourselves!!!

Link here:

Text of bill section 1031:

3 (b) COVERED PERSONS.—A covered person under
4 this section is any person as follows:
5 (1) A person who planned, authorized, com
6 mitted, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred
7 on September 11, 2001, or harbored those respon
8 sible for those attacks.
9 (2) A person who was a part of or substantially
10 supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces
11 that are engaged in hostilities against the United
12 States or its coalition partners, including any person
13 who has committed a belligerent act or has directly
14 supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy
15 forces.

Text of bill section 1032:

8 (b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS
9 AND LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—
10 (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The require
11 ment to detain a person in military custody under
12 this section does not extend to citizens of the United
13 States.
14 (2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The require
15 ment to detain a person in military custody under
16 this section does not extend to a lawful resident
17 alien of the United States on the basis of conduct
18 taking place within the United States, except to the
19 extent permitted by the Constitution of the United
20 States.

It seems that some people are more concerned with the rights and privileges of the enemy abroad that are actively engaged in a war against us than with the safety and security of US citizens!

Now for the umpteenth time!  This bill does not, in any way, shape or form, apply to US citizens!!!  Enough already!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EVERYONE should go directly to the legislation as presented in the US Senate and READ it!  Good Grief, don&#8217;t take anyone&#8217;s word for what&#8217;s in the bill or for what&#8217;s not in the bill.  Read it for yourselves!!!</p>
<p>Link here:</p>
<p>Text of bill section 1031:</p>
<p>3 (b) COVERED PERSONS.—A covered person under<br />
4 this section is any person as follows:<br />
5 (1) A person who planned, authorized, com<br />
6 mitted, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred<br />
7 on September 11, 2001, or harbored those respon<br />
8 sible for those attacks.<br />
9 (2) A person who was a part of or substantially<br />
10 supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces<br />
11 that are engaged in hostilities against the United<br />
12 States or its coalition partners, including any person<br />
13 who has committed a belligerent act or has directly<br />
14 supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy<br />
15 forces.</p>
<p>Text of bill section 1032:</p>
<p>8 (b) APPLICABILITY TO UNITED STATES CITIZENS<br />
9 AND LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—<br />
10 (1) UNITED STATES CITIZENS.—The require<br />
11 ment to detain a person in military custody under<br />
12 this section does not extend to citizens of the United<br />
13 States.<br />
14 (2) LAWFUL RESIDENT ALIENS.—The require<br />
15 ment to detain a person in military custody under<br />
16 this section does not extend to a lawful resident<br />
17 alien of the United States on the basis of conduct<br />
18 taking place within the United States, except to the<br />
19 extent permitted by the Constitution of the United<br />
20 States.</p>
<p>It seems that some people are more concerned with the rights and privileges of the enemy abroad that are actively engaged in a war against us than with the safety and security of US citizens!</p>
<p>Now for the umpteenth time!  This bill does not, in any way, shape or form, apply to US citizens!!!  Enough already!</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-243759</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 06:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They destroy docs in case they get subpoened????...Apparently from what I have uncovered, there were no docs to destroy...They never delivered the notes to the trusts...that is the crime...no docs, no delivery=massive fraud...the investors invested in a big fat ZERO....yet the RACKETEERING  in the form of FRAUDCLOSURES goes on unabated!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They destroy docs in case they get subpoened????&#8230;Apparently from what I have uncovered, there were no docs to destroy&#8230;They never delivered the notes to the trusts&#8230;that is the crime&#8230;no docs, no delivery=massive fraud&#8230;the investors invested in a big fat ZERO&#8230;.yet the RACKETEERING  in the form of FRAUDCLOSURES goes on unabated!!!</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-243749</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 06:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-242802&quot;&gt;lvent&lt;/a&gt;.

Secret wire taps of all of the dirty bastard politicians.....when they least expect it..they are all a bunch of sneaky crooks, traitors and liars...and so are the b appointments of the President...Geithner , Bernanke, and Rahm Emanuel...are NWO dirty bastards..!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-242802">lvent</a>.</p>
<p>Secret wire taps of all of the dirty bastard politicians&#8230;..when they least expect it..they are all a bunch of sneaky crooks, traitors and liars&#8230;and so are the b appointments of the President&#8230;Geithner , Bernanke, and Rahm Emanuel&#8230;are NWO dirty bastards..!</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-243745</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 06:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-242802&quot;&gt;lvent&lt;/a&gt;.

Someone in the media posed the question to the prosecutor in the Blago case Patrick Fitzgerald, shouldn&#039;t all the State Houses around the country be under investigation as well?  Fitgerald said, I hope the Blago case is the exception rather than the rule....YEAH RIGHT!!  All of the sleazy politicians from Illinois including that piece of shit traitor Governor Pat Quinn is saying Blago got what he deserved...I say lets have ALL of the dirty bastard POLITICIANS investigated....!!  THOSE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HO-- USES SHOULD NOT THROW STONES!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-242802">lvent</a>.</p>
<p>Someone in the media posed the question to the prosecutor in the Blago case Patrick Fitzgerald, shouldn&#8217;t all the State Houses around the country be under investigation as well?  Fitgerald said, I hope the Blago case is the exception rather than the rule&#8230;.YEAH RIGHT!!  All of the sleazy politicians from Illinois including that piece of shit traitor Governor Pat Quinn is saying Blago got what he deserved&#8230;I say lets have ALL of the dirty bastard POLITICIANS investigated&#8230;.!!  THOSE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HO&#8211; USES SHOULD NOT THROW STONES!!!</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-243620</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 04:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-242802&quot;&gt;lvent&lt;/a&gt;.

I would second that rictic!!  We need another new amendment besides take the money out of politics...take the lies out of politics by making them sign a legal binding contract with the We The  People.The Unholy Alliance with the U.N./ Holy Roman Empire/NATO has to end..I was thinking about  Blago getting that stiff 14 year sentence and how he never actually got a dime just tried to...yet not one of these billionaire Wall Street crooks or their minions and cohorts have been prosecuted to this day..NWO TRAITORS in CONgress created the evil plan in the backrooms and the WHITE HO-- USE pushed this plan to bring America to its knees......I agree with Max Keiser...Hank Paulson&#039;s head should be rolling down the steps of the Capital...and I can think of a quite a few more politicians heads that should be rolling right along with his...!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-242802">lvent</a>.</p>
<p>I would second that rictic!!  We need another new amendment besides take the money out of politics&#8230;take the lies out of politics by making them sign a legal binding contract with the We The  People.The Unholy Alliance with the U.N./ Holy Roman Empire/NATO has to end..I was thinking about  Blago getting that stiff 14 year sentence and how he never actually got a dime just tried to&#8230;yet not one of these billionaire Wall Street crooks or their minions and cohorts have been prosecuted to this day..NWO TRAITORS in CONgress created the evil plan in the backrooms and the WHITE HO&#8211; USE pushed this plan to bring America to its knees&#8230;&#8230;I agree with Max Keiser&#8230;Hank Paulson&#8217;s head should be rolling down the steps of the Capital&#8230;and I can think of a quite a few more politicians heads that should be rolling right along with his&#8230;!</p>
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		By: rictic		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-243380</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rictic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 02:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-242802&quot;&gt;lvent&lt;/a&gt;.

If they don&#039;t keep their election promises within the first year then they are out..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-242802">lvent</a>.</p>
<p>If they don&#8217;t keep their election promises within the first year then they are out..</p>
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		By: Javagold		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2011/12/07/george-mantor-relishing-the-new-anarchy/#comment-243336</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Javagold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 01:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[i love the return to sender anarchist !!!!!!!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love the return to sender anarchist !!!!!!!!!!</p>
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