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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-293926</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-293911&quot;&gt;Miles Sheperd, Author&lt;/a&gt;.

Miles..from what I understand that would be the closing date for the trust..ask the clerk at the recorders office what to do about the fraudulent recordings...I filed a complaint with the mortgage fraud Dept 3 weeks ago and I have not heard back..some recorders offices have on site attorneys to advise you the best course of action..when the loans went public that is when they dumped them in their global pool of toxic loans...they are simply passing the loan around trying to be granted a fraudclosure...they never sold the loans...they sold an investment in the mortgage payments...the money flow....they are using third party debt collectors who do not own your loan and have no standing..why?  Because in order to commit massive collateral mortgage fraud they destroyed the chain of title for themselves...the truth is they never lent us any money..and they made trillions off of our signatures....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-293911">Miles Sheperd, Author</a>.</p>
<p>Miles..from what I understand that would be the closing date for the trust..ask the clerk at the recorders office what to do about the fraudulent recordings&#8230;I filed a complaint with the mortgage fraud Dept 3 weeks ago and I have not heard back..some recorders offices have on site attorneys to advise you the best course of action..when the loans went public that is when they dumped them in their global pool of toxic loans&#8230;they are simply passing the loan around trying to be granted a fraudclosure&#8230;they never sold the loans&#8230;they sold an investment in the mortgage payments&#8230;the money flow&#8230;.they are using third party debt collectors who do not own your loan and have no standing..why?  Because in order to commit massive collateral mortgage fraud they destroyed the chain of title for themselves&#8230;the truth is they never lent us any money..and they made trillions off of our signatures&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Miles Sheperd, Author		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello Ivent,  

My question is this:   if the Trust states 2007 does this mean that it closed in 2007?  This transfer, signed by a known robo signer for Chase, was a transfer of all beneficial interest in the DOT.  Does this mean mortgage only and not the note?  This Assignement of DOT to Duetsche Bank National Trust Company, as trustee for a Wamu Series 2007 HE-1 Trust in 2011, was filed at the same time the NOD was filed by Chase, the apparant &quot;successor in interest&quot; to Wamu???

Also what can be filed at the County Recorders Office to refute these fraudulent documents?  This is what us rational thinking, non lawyer types need to know.

I am just a Simple Man needing some simple answers

Thanx.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Ivent,  </p>
<p>My question is this:   if the Trust states 2007 does this mean that it closed in 2007?  This transfer, signed by a known robo signer for Chase, was a transfer of all beneficial interest in the DOT.  Does this mean mortgage only and not the note?  This Assignement of DOT to Duetsche Bank National Trust Company, as trustee for a Wamu Series 2007 HE-1 Trust in 2011, was filed at the same time the NOD was filed by Chase, the apparant &#8220;successor in interest&#8221; to Wamu???</p>
<p>Also what can be filed at the County Recorders Office to refute these fraudulent documents?  This is what us rational thinking, non lawyer types need to know.</p>
<p>I am just a Simple Man needing some simple answers</p>
<p>Thanx.</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283567</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 00:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283296&quot;&gt;William&lt;/a&gt;.

Selling multiple interests in notes was an investment in the money flow......not an ownership of property..the pretender lenders oversold these interests exponentially and they never had any skin kn the game...fannie mae bought back loans they made for pennies on the dollar which should have never been allowed.....that is the biggest fraud of all...the fact that they were a private co. And a government sponsored enterprise is BULLSHIT!!!!!!!  HOW CAN THAT BE LEGAL???? THAT IS THE EPITOME OF RACKETEERING....They knew exactly what they were doing.....the IMF is the biggest bondholder in fannie mae.....!!!!   They used and abused and bought and invested in everything they could get their greedy hands on.....all paid by the U.S. TAXPAYERS!!!!  THEY ARE AN INSIDIOUS CABAL OF CROOKS!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283296">William</a>.</p>
<p>Selling multiple interests in notes was an investment in the money flow&#8230;&#8230;not an ownership of property..the pretender lenders oversold these interests exponentially and they never had any skin kn the game&#8230;fannie mae bought back loans they made for pennies on the dollar which should have never been allowed&#8230;..that is the biggest fraud of all&#8230;the fact that they were a private co. And a government sponsored enterprise is BULLSHIT!!!!!!!  HOW CAN THAT BE LEGAL???? THAT IS THE EPITOME OF RACKETEERING&#8230;.They knew exactly what they were doing&#8230;..the IMF is the biggest bondholder in fannie mae&#8230;..!!!!   They used and abused and bought and invested in everything they could get their greedy hands on&#8230;..all paid by the U.S. TAXPAYERS!!!!  THEY ARE AN INSIDIOUS CABAL OF CROOKS!!!</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283470</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 21:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283296&quot;&gt;William&lt;/a&gt;.

Have you ever had a title search done on your property William????...it lists the liens but lists no proof these are liens on your property...Just because the title company SAYS it is a lien...does not PROVE  it is a lien...It is all an eminent front...a big put on..!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283296">William</a>.</p>
<p>Have you ever had a title search done on your property William????&#8230;it lists the liens but lists no proof these are liens on your property&#8230;Just because the title company SAYS it is a lien&#8230;does not PROVE  it is a lien&#8230;It is all an eminent front&#8230;a big put on..!</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283455</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 21:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283296&quot;&gt;William&lt;/a&gt;.

They all are arms of the banks......and they are all owned by the world Bank......I never did any research on the atlanta va but if you look a little bit below the surface they are all tranches of the world bank......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283296">William</a>.</p>
<p>They all are arms of the banks&#8230;&#8230;and they are all owned by the world Bank&#8230;&#8230;I never did any research on the atlanta va but if you look a little bit below the surface they are all tranches of the world bank&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		By: William		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283447</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 21:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283296&quot;&gt;William&lt;/a&gt;.

Ivent, what Title Companies are owned by &#039;the Banks&#039;. What has your research suggested in regard to the Atlanta VA loan guarantee fraud?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283296">William</a>.</p>
<p>Ivent, what Title Companies are owned by &#8216;the Banks&#8217;. What has your research suggested in regard to the Atlanta VA loan guarantee fraud?</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283442</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 21:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283297&quot;&gt;William&lt;/a&gt;.

Bottom line.....they never lent us any money....the scope of this fraud is massive...even the homebuilders were part of the fraud....they were another arm of this racket....they worked in conjunction with the title companies who are owned by the banks.....they are all owned by the NEW WORLD ORDER!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283297">William</a>.</p>
<p>Bottom line&#8230;..they never lent us any money&#8230;.the scope of this fraud is massive&#8230;even the homebuilders were part of the fraud&#8230;.they were another arm of this racket&#8230;.they worked in conjunction with the title companies who are owned by the banks&#8230;..they are all owned by the NEW WORLD ORDER!!!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 20:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283297&quot;&gt;William&lt;/a&gt;.

That is precisely what MERS is....an electronic mortgage......if has No VALUE!  They were playing an electronic game with our mortgages and we were all used as pawns kn there game via our signatures!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283297">William</a>.</p>
<p>That is precisely what MERS is&#8230;.an electronic mortgage&#8230;&#8230;if has No VALUE!  They were playing an electronic game with our mortgages and we were all used as pawns kn there game via our signatures!!!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 20:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283296&quot;&gt;William&lt;/a&gt;.

They are the shadow....different identity.....same crooks!!!!! That is just the part of their racket we do not see.....that is where they create, dump and hide their fraud......what we see on CNBC and BLOOMBERG is a FRONT FOR THE RACKET.....THEY DO MORE BUSINESS ON THE WEEKENDS.....THE FRAUD IS ALL BEING DONE ELE TRONICALLY....TOU MAKE A DEPOSIT IN A BANK AND THAT MONEY IS TURNED INTO ELECTRONIC WEALTH......!  THE SHADOW IS ALL OF THE ELECTRONIC WEALTH.....THEY CONVERT EVERYTHING INTO ELECTRONIC WEALTH.....EVEN GOLD AND SILVER!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283296">William</a>.</p>
<p>They are the shadow&#8230;.different identity&#8230;..same crooks!!!!! That is just the part of their racket we do not see&#8230;..that is where they create, dump and hide their fraud&#8230;&#8230;what we see on CNBC and BLOOMBERG is a FRONT FOR THE RACKET&#8230;..THEY DO MORE BUSINESS ON THE WEEKENDS&#8230;..THE FRAUD IS ALL BEING DONE ELE TRONICALLY&#8230;.TOU MAKE A DEPOSIT IN A BANK AND THAT MONEY IS TURNED INTO ELECTRONIC WEALTH&#8230;&#8230;!  THE SHADOW IS ALL OF THE ELECTRONIC WEALTH&#8230;..THEY CONVERT EVERYTHING INTO ELECTRONIC WEALTH&#8230;..EVEN GOLD AND SILVER!!!</p>
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		By: William		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283433</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 20:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283297&quot;&gt;William&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, Ivent true. Those on the inside CREATED the SHADOW. Those who were &#039;kept in the dark&#039; were BLINDED BY THE SHADOW&#039;S DARKNESS. 
Again I say, PROSECUTE THE ATLANTA VA LOAN GUARANTEE OFFICER. POSSIBLY THERE IS LIGHT TO BE SEEN.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/01/06/why-did-the-banks-need-to-falsify-and-forge-fabricated-documents/#comment-283297">William</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, Ivent true. Those on the inside CREATED the SHADOW. Those who were &#8216;kept in the dark&#8217; were BLINDED BY THE SHADOW&#8217;S DARKNESS.<br />
Again I say, PROSECUTE THE ATLANTA VA LOAN GUARANTEE OFFICER. POSSIBLY THERE IS LIGHT TO BE SEEN.</p>
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