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	Comments on: Mark Hansen &#124; Foreclosures &#038; REO RAISE House Prices, Economic Activity &#038; Taxes (WTF?)	</title>
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		By: Mark Hanson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Hanson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 19:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So to me it seems that all you guys think that perma can-kicking via new-vintage, higher leverage, worse than subprime loans (aka mortgage mods) and bulk REO to rental programs are positives for housing. 

Can-kicking got us where we are today.  Nothing will clear this housing market on a national basis better than foreclosures, short sales, and DIL&#039;s. Yes, over the near term it may be more painful but it will shorten this housing downturn from a Japan-like 17 years to make 12 if we are lucky. 

Mark]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So to me it seems that all you guys think that perma can-kicking via new-vintage, higher leverage, worse than subprime loans (aka mortgage mods) and bulk REO to rental programs are positives for housing. </p>
<p>Can-kicking got us where we are today.  Nothing will clear this housing market on a national basis better than foreclosures, short sales, and DIL&#8217;s. Yes, over the near term it may be more painful but it will shorten this housing downturn from a Japan-like 17 years to make 12 if we are lucky. </p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		By: jaclyn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jaclyn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 13:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reminds me of what a nightmare this has been for  us homeowners who  have restored, cared for and &quot;rehabed&quot; run down homes to live in and care for and now face losing them to &quot;fraudclosure&quot; what a frickin&#039; mess...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of what a nightmare this has been for  us homeowners who  have restored, cared for and &#8220;rehabed&#8221; run down homes to live in and care for and now face losing them to &#8220;fraudclosure&#8221; what a frickin&#8217; mess&#8230;</p>
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		By: Gordon Brooks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon Brooks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, his theory is just an extension of the notion that any spending is good for the economy, even if it is completely unproductive. Rehabbing houses that have fallen to ruin (which would not have without the banks), more transfer fees and real estate commissions. Sorry, there is more to a healthy economy than GDP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, his theory is just an extension of the notion that any spending is good for the economy, even if it is completely unproductive. Rehabbing houses that have fallen to ruin (which would not have without the banks), more transfer fees and real estate commissions. Sorry, there is more to a healthy economy than GDP.</p>
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		By: Bobbi Swann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobbi Swann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/02/14/mark-hansen-foreclosures-reo-raise-house-prices-economic-activity-taxes-wtf/#comment-327231&quot;&gt;Randy Tran&lt;/a&gt;.

His theory may work in a world where there are a few foreclosures here and there....but in this crisis of one in every four (at least here in Flori-duh) homes are in default and facing foreclosure, his theory goes out the window.  As was mentioned in Detroit (boy, do I feel bad for those people) where there are really city blocks and blocks of blighted housing - that was not caused by a &quot;few&quot; foreclosures and probably 90% of them were illegal to begin with.  I&#039;ve been in the same business as this Mark Hanson for over 42 years - seen the worst of times and the best of times.  There has never (and I say never because I was not around during the Great Depression) been in my lifetime of 60 years a more devastating drain of the wealth of this country!  I&#039;ve made a moderate income for myself over the years until 2006; never went down that &quot;greedy&quot; trail like some of those during the bubble years.  In 2005 I was warning everybody in my office of a coming pitfall; warning against those phooey programs to the point that I was asked to move my office to my home as my attitude was tooooo pessimistic!!  Imagine that.....well, now....although I have to admit that I never thought it would be the magnitude that it has become.  Now, I&#039;ve learned the real truth to it&#039;s beginnings and earned the nickname &quot;Political Junkie&quot; in trying to open the eyes of others.  Still in the same business (ah, but part time now) which I can say is more than those whom I worked with in the past.  Just praying that soon God will intervene and open the eyes of the unbelievers.  I still have my FAITH and still fighting the fight!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/02/14/mark-hansen-foreclosures-reo-raise-house-prices-economic-activity-taxes-wtf/#comment-327231">Randy Tran</a>.</p>
<p>His theory may work in a world where there are a few foreclosures here and there&#8230;.but in this crisis of one in every four (at least here in Flori-duh) homes are in default and facing foreclosure, his theory goes out the window.  As was mentioned in Detroit (boy, do I feel bad for those people) where there are really city blocks and blocks of blighted housing &#8211; that was not caused by a &#8220;few&#8221; foreclosures and probably 90% of them were illegal to begin with.  I&#8217;ve been in the same business as this Mark Hanson for over 42 years &#8211; seen the worst of times and the best of times.  There has never (and I say never because I was not around during the Great Depression) been in my lifetime of 60 years a more devastating drain of the wealth of this country!  I&#8217;ve made a moderate income for myself over the years until 2006; never went down that &#8220;greedy&#8221; trail like some of those during the bubble years.  In 2005 I was warning everybody in my office of a coming pitfall; warning against those phooey programs to the point that I was asked to move my office to my home as my attitude was tooooo pessimistic!!  Imagine that&#8230;..well, now&#8230;.although I have to admit that I never thought it would be the magnitude that it has become.  Now, I&#8217;ve learned the real truth to it&#8217;s beginnings and earned the nickname &#8220;Political Junkie&#8221; in trying to open the eyes of others.  Still in the same business (ah, but part time now) which I can say is more than those whom I worked with in the past.  Just praying that soon God will intervene and open the eyes of the unbelievers.  I still have my FAITH and still fighting the fight!</p>
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		By: Beth A.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beth A.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Desperate independent (read: now unemployed) bankster butt buddy seeking attention in the hopes of getting a gig at a bank/mortgage co. 

Sad.

If you get a chance - read the Zero Hedge story on the January retail sales report (tanked = I think to lowest level e-v-e-r) despite the bullcrap our government is reporting.  Zero Hedge is offering $10,000 to an employee from the BLS, etc. to divulge how they come up with their contrary numbers which tell the public everything is peachy.

Election year - Our marshall law president is going to do whatever he and his administration can to stay in power until he is fully seated as dictator.  What a horrendous bunch of lie-spewing happening --]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desperate independent (read: now unemployed) bankster butt buddy seeking attention in the hopes of getting a gig at a bank/mortgage co. </p>
<p>Sad.</p>
<p>If you get a chance &#8211; read the Zero Hedge story on the January retail sales report (tanked = I think to lowest level e-v-e-r) despite the bullcrap our government is reporting.  Zero Hedge is offering $10,000 to an employee from the BLS, etc. to divulge how they come up with their contrary numbers which tell the public everything is peachy.</p>
<p>Election year &#8211; Our marshall law president is going to do whatever he and his administration can to stay in power until he is fully seated as dictator.  What a horrendous bunch of lie-spewing happening &#8212;</p>
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		By: Hell No, No More Blasted Bankster Bail-Outs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hell No, No More Blasted Bankster Bail-Outs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 16:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I believe on some of the real estate reports, all those &#039;CREDIT BIDS&#039; are being reflected as the house selling for MORE than or at the &#039;asking value&#039; which is the amount they were demanding from the borrower through foreclosure. The added fees are on top of the mortgage balance allows the crooked system to work the data, showing prices INCREASING.

I&#039;m looking at a price listing of completed sales from a local Realtor and the list price is either lower than the purchase price or just at it. Time to &#039;sell&#039; is zero days. RIGHT. Smells like a credit bid foreclosure to me.

So, yeah, I can see how they can claim the REPOS are INCREASING house prices, using their crooked &#039;credit bids&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe on some of the real estate reports, all those &#8216;CREDIT BIDS&#8217; are being reflected as the house selling for MORE than or at the &#8216;asking value&#8217; which is the amount they were demanding from the borrower through foreclosure. The added fees are on top of the mortgage balance allows the crooked system to work the data, showing prices INCREASING.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking at a price listing of completed sales from a local Realtor and the list price is either lower than the purchase price or just at it. Time to &#8216;sell&#8217; is zero days. RIGHT. Smells like a credit bid foreclosure to me.</p>
<p>So, yeah, I can see how they can claim the REPOS are INCREASING house prices, using their crooked &#8216;credit bids&#8217;.</p>
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		By: Randy Tran		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy Tran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ah yes, look for the good within the bad. This sounds nearly as insane as saying Detroit and Camden NJ are epicenters of soaring house values and  positive economic benefits.  Of course, this is all propoganda to say that foreclosures, evictions, broken families, trash outs, divorce, economic ruin and suicides do in fact financially benefit the 1%. So, he does have a point to his sociopathic &quot;extensive on the ground&quot; bullsh#t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes, look for the good within the bad. This sounds nearly as insane as saying Detroit and Camden NJ are epicenters of soaring house values and  positive economic benefits.  Of course, this is all propoganda to say that foreclosures, evictions, broken families, trash outs, divorce, economic ruin and suicides do in fact financially benefit the 1%. So, he does have a point to his sociopathic &#8220;extensive on the ground&#8221; bullsh#t.</p>
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