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	Comments on: Nationwide Title Clearing (NTC) to Attend MBA&#8217;s National Fraud Issues Conference 2012	</title>
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		By: PIZZAGATER		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348502&quot;&gt;J.R. Homeowner&lt;/a&gt;.

Holy shit. 5 years later and I found myself here because of #Pizzagate. These guys actually are pedophiles. This FAKE NGO is being used as the place to traffic the kids i think because look at the page owners review of the place http://archive.is/zitlo &#062; FAKE USER NAME]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348502">J.R. Homeowner</a>.</p>
<p>Holy shit. 5 years later and I found myself here because of #Pizzagate. These guys actually are pedophiles. This FAKE NGO is being used as the place to traffic the kids i think because look at the page owners review of the place <a href="http://archive.is/zitlo" rel="nofollow ugc">http://archive.is/zitlo</a> &gt; FAKE USER NAME</p>
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		By: kevin lilly		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-404978</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kevin lilly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348502&quot;&gt;J.R. Homeowner&lt;/a&gt;.

What a farse that was. She&#039;s is a huge liar. She can&#039;t remember anything I asked her. she only remembers signing the ASG on a date in 2004 and claims she did sign it in front of the robo signer Mary Jo McGowan, but remembers absoultely nothing else. An amazing memory to remember only that one ASG. She had no answer as to why it was notarized 6 monthst after she signed it. I&#039;m asking NTC for copies of the Corporate Resolution by which authorizes her to sign on their behalf. What a JOKE... She lied under OATH, How the hell can I prove that??????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348502">J.R. Homeowner</a>.</p>
<p>What a farse that was. She&#8217;s is a huge liar. She can&#8217;t remember anything I asked her. she only remembers signing the ASG on a date in 2004 and claims she did sign it in front of the robo signer Mary Jo McGowan, but remembers absoultely nothing else. An amazing memory to remember only that one ASG. She had no answer as to why it was notarized 6 monthst after she signed it. I&#8217;m asking NTC for copies of the Corporate Resolution by which authorizes her to sign on their behalf. What a JOKE&#8230; She lied under OATH, How the hell can I prove that??????</p>
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		By: Igor		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348580</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Igor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 22:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348563&quot;&gt;Igor&lt;/a&gt;.

All in the family??? &#039;...KNEW NOTHING??. REALLY?
http://movetoamend.org/prosecute-atlanta-veterans-administration-loan-guarantee-officer]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348563">Igor</a>.</p>
<p>All in the family??? &#8216;&#8230;KNEW NOTHING??. REALLY?<br />
<a href="http://movetoamend.org/prosecute-atlanta-veterans-administration-loan-guarantee-officer" rel="nofollow ugc">http://movetoamend.org/prosecute-atlanta-veterans-administration-loan-guarantee-officer</a></p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348574</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 22:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348564&quot;&gt;lvent&lt;/a&gt;.

EVERYONE PLEASE TUNE IN TOMORROW NIGHT TO CNN PRESENTS AT 8:00 PM EASTERN TO THEIR PROGRAM ENTITLED.....SOLDIER GUINEA PIGS....
THIS COULD NOT COME AT A BETTER TIME FOR ME BECA-- USE I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TALK MY SON OUT OF JOINING THE MARINES AND JOINING A MILITIA INSTEAD FOR REASONS WELL KNOWN TO ALL OF US...!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348564">lvent</a>.</p>
<p>EVERYONE PLEASE TUNE IN TOMORROW NIGHT TO CNN PRESENTS AT 8:00 PM EASTERN TO THEIR PROGRAM ENTITLED&#8230;..SOLDIER GUINEA PIGS&#8230;.<br />
THIS COULD NOT COME AT A BETTER TIME FOR ME BECA&#8211; USE I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TALK MY SON OUT OF JOINING THE MARINES AND JOINING A MILITIA INSTEAD FOR REASONS WELL KNOWN TO ALL OF US&#8230;!</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 22:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348560&quot;&gt;Igor&lt;/a&gt;.

YEAH BABY..YEAH..!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348560">Igor</a>.</p>
<p>YEAH BABY..YEAH..!</p>
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		By: Igor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Igor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 22:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe this is a ‘networking’ opportunity?. Maybe this is how they will &#039;communicate&#039; under cover of ‘meeting’. Every communication, room and toilet should be bugged by the FEDS.
http://www.mbac.org/cms_bwm/uploads/78.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this is a ‘networking’ opportunity?. Maybe this is how they will &#8216;communicate&#8217; under cover of ‘meeting’. Every communication, room and toilet should be bugged by the FEDS.<br />
<a href="http://www.mbac.org/cms_bwm/uploads/78.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.mbac.org/cms_bwm/uploads/78.pdf</a></p>
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		By: Igor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Igor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 22:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe this is a &#039;networking&#039; opportunity?. Maybe this is how they will &#039;communicate&#039; under cover of &#039;meeting&#039;. Every communication, room and toilet should be bugged.
http://www.mbac.org/cms_bwm/uploads/78.pdf]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this is a &#8216;networking&#8217; opportunity?. Maybe this is how they will &#8216;communicate&#8217; under cover of &#8216;meeting&#8217;. Every communication, room and toilet should be bugged.<br />
<a href="http://www.mbac.org/cms_bwm/uploads/78.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.mbac.org/cms_bwm/uploads/78.pdf</a></p>
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		By: J.R. Homeowner		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348502</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.R. Homeowner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 20:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348308&quot;&gt;kevin&lt;/a&gt;.

Elsa Mckinnon - Scientology Service Completions

Elsa Mckinnon in Scientology&#039;s Published Service Completion Lists
The following 1 individual completions for Elsa Mckinnon appear in official Scientology publications:

Elsa McKinnon OT DEBUG SERVICE Freewinds 55 2004-12-01

http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/e/elsa-mckinnon.html


Else McKinnon is one of $cientology&#039;s &quot;mighty OTs&quot;, or &quot;Operating Thetans&quot;
She is in one of the higher levels of the cult and has paid MANY hundreds of thousands of dollars to get to her present level.

Elsa McKinnon believes in the XENU space alien story and as an &quot;OT&quot; also believes that she can control &quot;MEST&quot; (Matter, Energy, Space and Time) with her mind. 

She believes that YOU are a mere &quot;wog&quot; Kevin and that *she* is a &quot;big being&quot; and &quot;at cause&quot; over you.

You will be deposing a SERIOUS cultist Kevin....Good Luck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348308">kevin</a>.</p>
<p>Elsa Mckinnon &#8211; Scientology Service Completions</p>
<p>Elsa Mckinnon in Scientology&#8217;s Published Service Completion Lists<br />
The following 1 individual completions for Elsa Mckinnon appear in official Scientology publications:</p>
<p>Elsa McKinnon OT DEBUG SERVICE Freewinds 55 2004-12-01</p>
<p><a href="http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/e/elsa-mckinnon.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/e/elsa-mckinnon.html</a></p>
<p>Else McKinnon is one of $cientology&#8217;s &#8220;mighty OTs&#8221;, or &#8220;Operating Thetans&#8221;<br />
She is in one of the higher levels of the cult and has paid MANY hundreds of thousands of dollars to get to her present level.</p>
<p>Elsa McKinnon believes in the XENU space alien story and as an &#8220;OT&#8221; also believes that she can control &#8220;MEST&#8221; (Matter, Energy, Space and Time) with her mind. </p>
<p>She believes that YOU are a mere &#8220;wog&#8221; Kevin and that *she* is a &#8220;big being&#8221; and &#8220;at cause&#8221; over you.</p>
<p>You will be deposing a SERIOUS cultist Kevin&#8230;.Good Luck.</p>
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		By: J.R. Homeowner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.R. Homeowner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 20:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348308&quot;&gt;kevin&lt;/a&gt;.

Kevin,
When deposing $cientologits there are few things that you MUST know beforehand.

1. $cientologits are TRAINED to lie. Yes, they actually take a class on it!  They call their lies &quot;acceptable truth&quot; and have absolutely ZERO regard for having sworn an oath or the threat of perjury. Thre ARE ways to get the truth out of them in testimony, but you must know how.

2. You MUST understand what the &quot;Org Board&quot; is and how it functions in a $cientology run organization. NTC is run using what they call &quot;Admin. Tech.&quot;,  specific principles by which a business is run codified by L.Ron Hubbard in a series of books .  The &quot;Org Board&quot; is part of that dogma. It will guide you through NTC&#039;s &quot;chain of command&quot;.

3. You must understand what a WISE company is and how it interacts with the $cientology organization as a whole. (WISE = World Institute of Scientology Enterprises)

4. You must understand what L. Ron Hubbard instructed his cult followers regarding law suits. It is &quot;religious scripture&quot; to them:  


In 1960 Hubbard proceeded to establish &quot;Special Zone Departments&quot; in all Scientology® organizations to co-ordinate the efforts of Scientologists to infiltrate society. Two months later this Department was incorporated into the &quot;Department of Government Affairs.&quot; Hubbard wrote:
 
&quot;If attacked on some vulnerable point by anyone or anything or any organization, always find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace. Peace is bought with an exchange of advantage, so make the advantage and then settle. Don&#039;t ever defend. Always attack. Don&#039;t ever do nothing. Unexpected attacks in the rear of the enemies&#039; front ranks work best.&quot;
 
Hubbard, HCOPL, Dept of Govt Affairs, 15 August 1960. See also Hubbard, HCOPL, Dept of Government Relations, 22 August 1960 (Hubbard seems to have been unsure about the name of the Department) and Hubbard, HCOPL, Special Zone Dept, 30 August 1960. 

&quot;
&quot;The purpose of a lawsuit is to harass and discourage rather than to win.... Don&#039;t ever defend. Always attack. Find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace. Originate a black PR campaign to destroy the person&#039;s repute and to discredit them so thoroughly they will be ostracized....&quot; 

&quot;&quot;This is correct procedure: 
(1) Spot who is attacking us. 

(2) Start investigating them promptly for FELONIES or worse using our own professionals, not outside agencies. 

(3) Double curve our reply by saying we welcome an investigation of them. 

(4) Start feeding lurid, blood sex crime actual evidence on the attackers to the press. 

(5) Make it rough, rough on attackers all the way.&quot; 

-- L. Ron Hubbard
Sacred Scientology® &quot;scriptures.&quot; 

Kevin, I will be happy to assist you in preparation for deposing NTC cult members.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/02/nationwide-title-clearing-ntc-to-attend-mbas-national-fraud-issues-conference-2012/#comment-348308">kevin</a>.</p>
<p>Kevin,<br />
When deposing $cientologits there are few things that you MUST know beforehand.</p>
<p>1. $cientologits are TRAINED to lie. Yes, they actually take a class on it!  They call their lies &#8220;acceptable truth&#8221; and have absolutely ZERO regard for having sworn an oath or the threat of perjury. Thre ARE ways to get the truth out of them in testimony, but you must know how.</p>
<p>2. You MUST understand what the &#8220;Org Board&#8221; is and how it functions in a $cientology run organization. NTC is run using what they call &#8220;Admin. Tech.&#8221;,  specific principles by which a business is run codified by L.Ron Hubbard in a series of books .  The &#8220;Org Board&#8221; is part of that dogma. It will guide you through NTC&#8217;s &#8220;chain of command&#8221;.</p>
<p>3. You must understand what a WISE company is and how it interacts with the $cientology organization as a whole. (WISE = World Institute of Scientology Enterprises)</p>
<p>4. You must understand what L. Ron Hubbard instructed his cult followers regarding law suits. It is &#8220;religious scripture&#8221; to them:  </p>
<p>In 1960 Hubbard proceeded to establish &#8220;Special Zone Departments&#8221; in all Scientology® organizations to co-ordinate the efforts of Scientologists to infiltrate society. Two months later this Department was incorporated into the &#8220;Department of Government Affairs.&#8221; Hubbard wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;If attacked on some vulnerable point by anyone or anything or any organization, always find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace. Peace is bought with an exchange of advantage, so make the advantage and then settle. Don&#8217;t ever defend. Always attack. Don&#8217;t ever do nothing. Unexpected attacks in the rear of the enemies&#8217; front ranks work best.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hubbard, HCOPL, Dept of Govt Affairs, 15 August 1960. See also Hubbard, HCOPL, Dept of Government Relations, 22 August 1960 (Hubbard seems to have been unsure about the name of the Department) and Hubbard, HCOPL, Special Zone Dept, 30 August 1960. </p>
<p>&#8221;<br />
&#8220;The purpose of a lawsuit is to harass and discourage rather than to win&#8230;. Don&#8217;t ever defend. Always attack. Find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace. Originate a black PR campaign to destroy the person&#8217;s repute and to discredit them so thoroughly they will be ostracized&#8230;.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;This is correct procedure:<br />
(1) Spot who is attacking us. </p>
<p>(2) Start investigating them promptly for FELONIES or worse using our own professionals, not outside agencies. </p>
<p>(3) Double curve our reply by saying we welcome an investigation of them. </p>
<p>(4) Start feeding lurid, blood sex crime actual evidence on the attackers to the press. </p>
<p>(5) Make it rough, rough on attackers all the way.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8212; L. Ron Hubbard<br />
Sacred Scientology® &#8220;scriptures.&#8221; </p>
<p>Kevin, I will be happy to assist you in preparation for deposing NTC cult members.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 15:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m gettiing ready to expose their fraud again by deposing Elsa Mckinnon and Mary jo McGowan. NTC has retained an a turn on me on their behalf. How funny that is. Especially since mcgowan no longer works for them. They must be scared of something being revealed in a deposition. I cant wait to get this date set.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m gettiing ready to expose their fraud again by deposing Elsa Mckinnon and Mary jo McGowan. NTC has retained an a turn on me on their behalf. How funny that is. Especially since mcgowan no longer works for them. They must be scared of something being revealed in a deposition. I cant wait to get this date set.</p>
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