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		By: Igor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Igor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 21:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360225&quot;&gt;David LeForge&lt;/a&gt;.

David, sue and prosecute the lawyers involved in not just the foreclosure act, but the act of the whole process, lending, etc. Look at the case of the VA Loan fraud. Lawyers were apparently involved at the front end of this fraud. They were involved in the perpetration AND the cover-up. We must make sure that those involved in gaming the system for their own personal gain (self dealers) are sued and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. No stone unturned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360225">David LeForge</a>.</p>
<p>David, sue and prosecute the lawyers involved in not just the foreclosure act, but the act of the whole process, lending, etc. Look at the case of the VA Loan fraud. Lawyers were apparently involved at the front end of this fraud. They were involved in the perpetration AND the cover-up. We must make sure that those involved in gaming the system for their own personal gain (self dealers) are sued and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. No stone unturned.</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360187&quot;&gt;Igor&lt;/a&gt;.

The FED was overcompensated exponentially starting at the ORIGINATION...they never had any skin in the game...because the U.S. TREASURY lent the FED THE U.S. TAXPAYERS MONEY..! That is why the FED had nothing to lose and everything to gain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360187">Igor</a>.</p>
<p>The FED was overcompensated exponentially starting at the ORIGINATION&#8230;they never had any skin in the game&#8230;because the U.S. TREASURY lent the FED THE U.S. TAXPAYERS MONEY..! That is why the FED had nothing to lose and everything to gain.</p>
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		By: David LeForge		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David LeForge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 20:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We The People must take action. I like what Igor said regarding the suit against all attorneys associated in fraudclosures ect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We The People must take action. I like what Igor said regarding the suit against all attorneys associated in fraudclosures ect.</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360214</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360200&quot;&gt;Gene&lt;/a&gt;.

That would not be hard to do Igor considering the fact that there are no legal assignments and there is no prima facie evidence.  If they cant produce the legal documents than that is all of the evidence that is needed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360200">Gene</a>.</p>
<p>That would not be hard to do Igor considering the fact that there are no legal assignments and there is no prima facie evidence.  If they cant produce the legal documents than that is all of the evidence that is needed.</p>
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		By: Igor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Igor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360200&quot;&gt;Gene&lt;/a&gt;.

SUE/PROSECUTE THE LAWYERS!  AS ACCESSORIES TO, BEFORE AND AFTER THE FACT: COMPEL THEM TO DISCLOSE EVERYTHING ABOUT THEIR RACKETEERING ENTERPRISE Everything on EVERYONE. (The entire attorney-client relationships were embarked upon in furtherance of criminal activity, and the relationship are permeated by criminal activity and the lawyers have  taken an active part in it,)The crime-fraud exception is satisfied notwithstanding that it may have been the attorney who originally conscripted the client for the illegal purpose!. In re Impounded Case (Law Firm) (1989) 879 F.2d 1211, 1213-14.
 In order to establish the crime-fraud exception to the privilege, ‘the party opposing the privilege must establish a prima facie case of fraud. [T]he party must also establish a reasonable relationship between the fraud and the attorney-client communication.’ Cunningham v. Connecticut Mut. Life. Ins. (S.D.Cal. 1994) 845 F.Supp. 1403, 1412
http://www.lectlaw.com/def/c180.htm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360200">Gene</a>.</p>
<p>SUE/PROSECUTE THE LAWYERS!  AS ACCESSORIES TO, BEFORE AND AFTER THE FACT: COMPEL THEM TO DISCLOSE EVERYTHING ABOUT THEIR RACKETEERING ENTERPRISE Everything on EVERYONE. (The entire attorney-client relationships were embarked upon in furtherance of criminal activity, and the relationship are permeated by criminal activity and the lawyers have  taken an active part in it,)The crime-fraud exception is satisfied notwithstanding that it may have been the attorney who originally conscripted the client for the illegal purpose!. In re Impounded Case (Law Firm) (1989) 879 F.2d 1211, 1213-14.<br />
 In order to establish the crime-fraud exception to the privilege, ‘the party opposing the privilege must establish a prima facie case of fraud. [T]he party must also establish a reasonable relationship between the fraud and the attorney-client communication.’ Cunningham v. Connecticut Mut. Life. Ins. (S.D.Cal. 1994) 845 F.Supp. 1403, 1412<br />
<a href="http://www.lectlaw.com/def/c180.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.lectlaw.com/def/c180.htm</a></p>
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		By: Igor		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360210</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Igor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360200&quot;&gt;Gene&lt;/a&gt;.

SUE THE LAWYERS!  AS ACCESSORIES TO, BEFORE AND AFTER THE FACT: (The entire attorney-client relationships were embarked upon in furtherance of criminal activity, and the relationship are permeated by criminal activity and the lawyers have  taken an active part in it,)The crime-fraud exception is satisfied notwithstanding that it may have been the attorney who originally conscripted the client for the illegal purpose!. In re Impounded Case (Law Firm) (1989) 879 F.2d 1211, 1213-14.
 In order to establish the crime-fraud exception to the privilege, ‘the party opposing the privilege must establish a prima facie case of fraud. [T]he party must also establish a reasonable relationship between the fraud and the attorney-client communication.’ Cunningham v. Connecticut Mut. Life. Ins. (S.D.Cal. 1994) 845 F.Supp. 1403, 1412
http://www.lectlaw.com/def/c180.htm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360200">Gene</a>.</p>
<p>SUE THE LAWYERS!  AS ACCESSORIES TO, BEFORE AND AFTER THE FACT: (The entire attorney-client relationships were embarked upon in furtherance of criminal activity, and the relationship are permeated by criminal activity and the lawyers have  taken an active part in it,)The crime-fraud exception is satisfied notwithstanding that it may have been the attorney who originally conscripted the client for the illegal purpose!. In re Impounded Case (Law Firm) (1989) 879 F.2d 1211, 1213-14.<br />
 In order to establish the crime-fraud exception to the privilege, ‘the party opposing the privilege must establish a prima facie case of fraud. [T]he party must also establish a reasonable relationship between the fraud and the attorney-client communication.’ Cunningham v. Connecticut Mut. Life. Ins. (S.D.Cal. 1994) 845 F.Supp. 1403, 1412<br />
<a href="http://www.lectlaw.com/def/c180.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.lectlaw.com/def/c180.htm</a></p>
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		By: Gene		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360096&quot;&gt;Heather&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with Heather.  We must do something about this.  4closurefraud, attorneys that have blogs, hamlet, etc. have been the sources of &quot;must-have&quot; information, but are limited without &quot;us&quot; spreading the word.  We have to activate others, let everyone know we all are affected.  How do we do this? 

Activists have made great strides and we need a model to emulate.  Come on folks, before this piece of junk &quot;settlement&quot; does more damage...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360096">Heather</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with Heather.  We must do something about this.  4closurefraud, attorneys that have blogs, hamlet, etc. have been the sources of &#8220;must-have&#8221; information, but are limited without &#8220;us&#8221; spreading the word.  We have to activate others, let everyone know we all are affected.  How do we do this? </p>
<p>Activists have made great strides and we need a model to emulate.  Come on folks, before this piece of junk &#8220;settlement&#8221; does more damage&#8230;</p>
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		By: Igor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Igor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 19:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360187&quot;&gt;Igor&lt;/a&gt;.

Ponzifying the Ponzi. The banks were already OVER compensated for their loans, buy the trusts who payed them for all the loans by the trusts in the securities markets.
It was posted not long ago, that the total of all loans in all trusts was about 67 billion dollars. Now, this is a paulty number compared to what we are dealing with.Is it likely that the TRILLIONS of dollars represents the COUNTERFEIT MULTI-PLEDGED LOANS? and not the legitimate loans? 
The only thing to come of this cover up is the destruction evidence, directly and through further &#039;ponzification&#039; of the ponzi]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360187">Igor</a>.</p>
<p>Ponzifying the Ponzi. The banks were already OVER compensated for their loans, buy the trusts who payed them for all the loans by the trusts in the securities markets.<br />
It was posted not long ago, that the total of all loans in all trusts was about 67 billion dollars. Now, this is a paulty number compared to what we are dealing with.Is it likely that the TRILLIONS of dollars represents the COUNTERFEIT MULTI-PLEDGED LOANS? and not the legitimate loans?<br />
The only thing to come of this cover up is the destruction evidence, directly and through further &#8216;ponzification&#8217; of the ponzi</p>
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		By: Igor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Igor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360181&quot;&gt;Igor&lt;/a&gt;.

And, all the money the banks get from the government are acutallydue to the trust investors as well. The bansk were already OVER compensated for their loans, but the trusts who payed thme for the loans in the securities markets. How are the banks due one dime? Is it that the banks payed trillions on counterfeit loans laundered by and through the loan brokers? and the trust investors are taking a huge loss? OR somehow are the investors getting reimbursed via some type of insurance? and the insurance is being defrauded? then how is the insurance carrier being payed to underwrite this loss? Where is thee money coming from, and going? Its being laundered in a most complex and concealed manner. There is no way to know what is really going on. It was posted not long ago, that the total money in al trusts was about 67 billion dollars. Now, this is a paulty number compared to what we are dealing with. Is it likely that the TRILLIONS of dollars represents the COUNTERFEIT MULTI-PLEDGED LOANS? and not the legitimate loans?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/14/abigail-field-the-mortgage-settlement-lets-banks-systematically-overcharge-you-and-wrongly-take-your-home/#comment-360181">Igor</a>.</p>
<p>And, all the money the banks get from the government are acutallydue to the trust investors as well. The bansk were already OVER compensated for their loans, but the trusts who payed thme for the loans in the securities markets. How are the banks due one dime? Is it that the banks payed trillions on counterfeit loans laundered by and through the loan brokers? and the trust investors are taking a huge loss? OR somehow are the investors getting reimbursed via some type of insurance? and the insurance is being defrauded? then how is the insurance carrier being payed to underwrite this loss? Where is thee money coming from, and going? Its being laundered in a most complex and concealed manner. There is no way to know what is really going on. It was posted not long ago, that the total money in al trusts was about 67 billion dollars. Now, this is a paulty number compared to what we are dealing with. Is it likely that the TRILLIONS of dollars represents the COUNTERFEIT MULTI-PLEDGED LOANS? and not the legitimate loans?</p>
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		By: To Tell The Truth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[To Tell The Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am still thinking that this agreement is not legal...and that we should have had a moratorium if we wanted the Ag&#039;s to speak on our behalf...it does not benefit me at all...there is something not right  about this agreement...to settle to cover actual breaking of our laws and not by due process of taking these banks and co. to court  ...there has to be something in the law to overturn this.  Also, I did not see that it took away my individual right to pursue due process for my own case....your thoughts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still thinking that this agreement is not legal&#8230;and that we should have had a moratorium if we wanted the Ag&#8217;s to speak on our behalf&#8230;it does not benefit me at all&#8230;there is something not right  about this agreement&#8230;to settle to cover actual breaking of our laws and not by due process of taking these banks and co. to court  &#8230;there has to be something in the law to overturn this.  Also, I did not see that it took away my individual right to pursue due process for my own case&#8230;.your thoughts.</p>
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