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	Comments on: Dylan Ratigan, Lisa Epstein &#038; William Black Discuss Malicious Bankers w/ Syphillis (VIDEO)	</title>
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		By: Javagold		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2012 04:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[why is this being posted now ??? (just wondering am i missing something)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is this being posted now ??? (just wondering am i missing something)</p>
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		By: Igor		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-363127</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Igor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 21:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-362947&quot;&gt;Igor&lt;/a&gt;.

I notice no one is talking or responding to these postings on multi-pledged/counterfeit loans? Ali?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-362947">Igor</a>.</p>
<p>I notice no one is talking or responding to these postings on multi-pledged/counterfeit loans? Ali?</p>
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		By: readdocs		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 20:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To know the origins of  the theft happening now and in the past 20 years you need to locate and
expose the people who planted the original bad seeds that first led to the S&#038;L scandal of the 1980s.
ALL of them, and then after exposure, educate everyone on the current situation.
Stop using the financial groups who are perpetuating the crimes till ongoing.  Vote with your
voices and your wallets.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To know the origins of  the theft happening now and in the past 20 years you need to locate and<br />
expose the people who planted the original bad seeds that first led to the S&amp;L scandal of the 1980s.<br />
ALL of them, and then after exposure, educate everyone on the current situation.<br />
Stop using the financial groups who are perpetuating the crimes till ongoing.  Vote with your<br />
voices and your wallets.</p>
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		By: chunga		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-363061</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chunga]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 19:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-363022&quot;&gt;Attorney Wendy Alison Nora&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the link. I just made a reply there that is too big (long-winded) to fit here. Martin is great and so is Talcott.

This IS the perfect crime.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-363022">Attorney Wendy Alison Nora</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the link. I just made a reply there that is too big (long-winded) to fit here. Martin is great and so is Talcott.</p>
<p>This IS the perfect crime.</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-363044</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-363027&quot;&gt;Attorney Wendy Alison Nora&lt;/a&gt;.

@Attorney Wendy Alison Nora,  The robbery of all nations by the elite is certainly ongoing and deliberate.  If their evil plans do come to pass and they bankrupt the world economy all of the World Bank currencies will collapse.  Their fraudulent  fix for that will be an attempt to usher in their b.s.  one world currency and Govt.  The American people really need to wake up and begin to unify against all of this fraud or our U.S. CONSTITUTION, our BILL OF RIGHTS and our freedom and National Sovereignty will be lost to the biggest fraud in history..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-363027">Attorney Wendy Alison Nora</a>.</p>
<p>@Attorney Wendy Alison Nora,  The robbery of all nations by the elite is certainly ongoing and deliberate.  If their evil plans do come to pass and they bankrupt the world economy all of the World Bank currencies will collapse.  Their fraudulent  fix for that will be an attempt to usher in their b.s.  one world currency and Govt.  The American people really need to wake up and begin to unify against all of this fraud or our U.S. CONSTITUTION, our BILL OF RIGHTS and our freedom and National Sovereignty will be lost to the biggest fraud in history..</p>
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		By: Attorney Wendy Alison Nora		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-363027</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Attorney Wendy Alison Nora]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-362734&quot;&gt;lvent&lt;/a&gt;.

Ivent,
My research suggest no other explanation, but we must include the collapse of the European Union as part of the plan being executed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-362734">lvent</a>.</p>
<p>Ivent,<br />
My research suggest no other explanation, but we must include the collapse of the European Union as part of the plan being executed.</p>
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		By: Attorney Wendy Alison Nora		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-363022</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Attorney Wendy Alison Nora]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-362967&quot;&gt;chunga&lt;/a&gt;.

The investors have not come forward en masse, as one would have expected. 
Attorney Talcott Franklin describes the position of the investors with great insight here:
http://mandelman.ml-implode.com/2011/11/the-world-of-the-investor-with-attorney-talcott-franklin-a-mandelman-matters-podcast/
Many of us believe that the trusts are empty of validly transferred assets.  In my next set of discovery, I will ask for an accounting of payments to the investors.  I suspect that, to the extent that payments are being made, the payments are in the form of credit to the investors accounts are most likely being automatically generated by funds borrowed at the Federal Reserve Discount window OR by circulating the &quot;missing&quot; original  mortgage notes as currency in international banking, by endless sales.  I also believe that the servicers are taking the proceeds from foreclosure sales and not paying the funds over to the investors.  This is a &quot;smoke and mirrors&quot; process and the endgame is foreclosure.   The only &quot;real&quot; asset is the hard asset of the home and the land.   Protective orders?  When a party appears as representing &quot;Certificate Holders&quot; (properly, holders of certificates of beneficial interest in the trust) those interests must be disclosed.   
This debacle is full-time employment for every unemployed recent law school graduate and accountant willing to work on contingency and for payment upon recovery, respectively.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-362967">chunga</a>.</p>
<p>The investors have not come forward en masse, as one would have expected.<br />
Attorney Talcott Franklin describes the position of the investors with great insight here:<br />
<a href="http://mandelman.ml-implode.com/2011/11/the-world-of-the-investor-with-attorney-talcott-franklin-a-mandelman-matters-podcast/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://mandelman.ml-implode.com/2011/11/the-world-of-the-investor-with-attorney-talcott-franklin-a-mandelman-matters-podcast/</a><br />
Many of us believe that the trusts are empty of validly transferred assets.  In my next set of discovery, I will ask for an accounting of payments to the investors.  I suspect that, to the extent that payments are being made, the payments are in the form of credit to the investors accounts are most likely being automatically generated by funds borrowed at the Federal Reserve Discount window OR by circulating the &#8220;missing&#8221; original  mortgage notes as currency in international banking, by endless sales.  I also believe that the servicers are taking the proceeds from foreclosure sales and not paying the funds over to the investors.  This is a &#8220;smoke and mirrors&#8221; process and the endgame is foreclosure.   The only &#8220;real&#8221; asset is the hard asset of the home and the land.   Protective orders?  When a party appears as representing &#8220;Certificate Holders&#8221; (properly, holders of certificates of beneficial interest in the trust) those interests must be disclosed.<br />
This debacle is full-time employment for every unemployed recent law school graduate and accountant willing to work on contingency and for payment upon recovery, respectively.</p>
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		By: Attorney Wendy Alison Nora		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Attorney Wendy Alison Nora]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-362947&quot;&gt;Igor&lt;/a&gt;.

I also have been troubled by the repetitious references to liars loans as the cause of the collapse of the fraudulent mortgage market.  I note the date of this original interview.  Still, he has been saying the same thing through the Occupy Wall Street movement last fall (2011.) Prof. Black needs to start focusing on the empty REMIC trusts,  which is the actual the cause of the ongoing crash of sovereign nation&#039;s economies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-362947">Igor</a>.</p>
<p>I also have been troubled by the repetitious references to liars loans as the cause of the collapse of the fraudulent mortgage market.  I note the date of this original interview.  Still, he has been saying the same thing through the Occupy Wall Street movement last fall (2011.) Prof. Black needs to start focusing on the empty REMIC trusts,  which is the actual the cause of the ongoing crash of sovereign nation&#8217;s economies.</p>
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		By: Stupendous Man - Defender of Liberty, Foe of Tyranny		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-362996</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stupendous Man - Defender of Liberty, Foe of Tyranny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Since this first aired in the fall of 2010 our government has been even more effective in selling out the citizens.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since this first aired in the fall of 2010 our government has been even more effective in selling out the citizens.</p>
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		By: chunga		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/dylan-ratigan-lisa-epstein-william-black-discuss-malicious-bankers-w-syphillis-video/#comment-362967</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chunga]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Will anyone please explain why these investors are entitled to remain anonymous in foreclosure complaints?

Isn&#039;t it very odd that servicers routinely cite confidentiality agreements between said investors in discovery?

When pressed in court with a Motion to Compel they typically respond with a Motion for Protective Order.

Why hide if there is no need? Since they do it practically all the time; there must be a need.

So, what is it?

I&#039;ll take a stab at answering my own question.

Because, you know what? Many of these trusts have triggered CDS pursuant to the PSAs that govern them and they no longer exist.

The investors got paid by an insurance company that got bailed out and can&#039;t, coincidentally, account for vast chunks of their bailout money.

The remainder of the loans in the trusts that no longer exist and have been extinguished in SEC filings (that&#039;s what they are hiding) continue to be collected by Mr. Servicer Man.

Mr. Servicer Man is not owed that money but continues to collect payments none the less.

If the savvy anonymous investors beat too hard on the servicers, the servicers will remind them that the collateral obligations were not placed in the trusts within the REMIC tax window making them guilty of tax fraud on a wide scale. 

That, in addition to the fact they have been already been made whole (and sometimes way more that whole) by their incestuous bailed out insurance cronies makes for a very deep rabbit hole.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will anyone please explain why these investors are entitled to remain anonymous in foreclosure complaints?</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it very odd that servicers routinely cite confidentiality agreements between said investors in discovery?</p>
<p>When pressed in court with a Motion to Compel they typically respond with a Motion for Protective Order.</p>
<p>Why hide if there is no need? Since they do it practically all the time; there must be a need.</p>
<p>So, what is it?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take a stab at answering my own question.</p>
<p>Because, you know what? Many of these trusts have triggered CDS pursuant to the PSAs that govern them and they no longer exist.</p>
<p>The investors got paid by an insurance company that got bailed out and can&#8217;t, coincidentally, account for vast chunks of their bailout money.</p>
<p>The remainder of the loans in the trusts that no longer exist and have been extinguished in SEC filings (that&#8217;s what they are hiding) continue to be collected by Mr. Servicer Man.</p>
<p>Mr. Servicer Man is not owed that money but continues to collect payments none the less.</p>
<p>If the savvy anonymous investors beat too hard on the servicers, the servicers will remind them that the collateral obligations were not placed in the trusts within the REMIC tax window making them guilty of tax fraud on a wide scale. </p>
<p>That, in addition to the fact they have been already been made whole (and sometimes way more that whole) by their incestuous bailed out insurance cronies makes for a very deep rabbit hole.</p>
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