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		By: lvent		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/fraudclosure-settlement-not-so-fast-bondholders-threatening-legal-action/#comment-363075</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lvent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 19:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/fraudclosure-settlement-not-so-fast-bondholders-threatening-legal-action/#comment-362712&quot;&gt;scarednearlystiff&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree that Marcy Kaptur is awesome..!  She is one of a handful of politicians who has tried to wake up the American people and speak the truth about the biggest fraud in history that has been committed against the American people....I love her anger and her passion when she says if your attorney cant put his or her finger on that mortgage they dont have that mortgage and that they lost the notes up on Wall Street..! I can watch her speeches over and over again..!  We need to unify behind people like her.   Ms. Kaptur pulls no punches with the powers that be and she calls them all out...!  Ms. Kaptur is a true American patriot..!]]></description>
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<p>I agree that Marcy Kaptur is awesome..!  She is one of a handful of politicians who has tried to wake up the American people and speak the truth about the biggest fraud in history that has been committed against the American people&#8230;.I love her anger and her passion when she says if your attorney cant put his or her finger on that mortgage they dont have that mortgage and that they lost the notes up on Wall Street..! I can watch her speeches over and over again..!  We need to unify behind people like her.   Ms. Kaptur pulls no punches with the powers that be and she calls them all out&#8230;!  Ms. Kaptur is a true American patriot..!</p>
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		By: Attorney Wendy Alison Nora		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/fraudclosure-settlement-not-so-fast-bondholders-threatening-legal-action/#comment-363071</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 19:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/fraudclosure-settlement-not-so-fast-bondholders-threatening-legal-action/#comment-362712&quot;&gt;scarednearlystiff&lt;/a&gt;.

OOPS!  I accidentally posted the MSM edited version of Marcy Kaptur&#039;s speech on 1/15/2009 which was saved on 2/9/2009.  You have probably all seen this.  I think it was part of Michael Moore&#039;s Capitalism: A Love Story, but no one has ever said this more clearly or better than Representative Kaptur:
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/fraudclosure-settlement-not-so-fast-bondholders-threatening-legal-action/#comment-362712">scarednearlystiff</a>.</p>
<p>OOPS!  I accidentally posted the MSM edited version of Marcy Kaptur&#8217;s speech on 1/15/2009 which was saved on 2/9/2009.  You have probably all seen this.  I think it was part of Michael Moore&#8217;s Capitalism: A Love Story, but no one has ever said this more clearly or better than Representative Kaptur:<br />
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		By: Attorney Wendy Alison Nora		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/fraudclosure-settlement-not-so-fast-bondholders-threatening-legal-action/#comment-363059</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Attorney Wendy Alison Nora]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 19:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/fraudclosure-settlement-not-so-fast-bondholders-threatening-legal-action/#comment-362712&quot;&gt;scarednearlystiff&lt;/a&gt;.

Here are the 4 steps to taking over a sovereign nation, practiced by the CIA throughout the world and the KGB (now ruling  Russia via Putin.) 
1.  Demoralize 
2.  Destabilize
3.  Create a crisis
4.  Normalize  (We must not accept the &quot;new normal.&quot;
The takeover has been attempted by, among other things:
1.  Undereducating our citizens over 30 years; training students to be servants of the corporate state; medicating the citizens with psychotropic drugs for everything from &quot;depression&quot; to &quot;chronic pain&quot;; alienating families (two parents working harder and harder)
2.  Destabilizing the economy (inflation and deflation of asset values, including the value of labor and the currency)
3.  9/11 (blame the usual and then the mortgage crisis (blame the homeowner and not the banks) and throw citizens into the street
4.  Normalize (get the population so scared that they turn a blind eye to injustice)

This cycle has been used effectively, time and time again, in Latin America,  in Europe and in Asia.  The plan may yet fail.  Too many still know history and can see through the dismal science, economics, which is better described as &quot;the science of lies.&quot;  Modern monetary theory is not a theory but the proper description of the alternative to a private, debt-based medium of exchange.
Many of us know that we cannot be free by enslaving others.

 Eventually we will free ourselves from the illusions of private property, but at least we can free ourselves in real time from the debt servitude imposed by private banks creating the currency.   I believe that the original mortgage notes are being traded as currency through the international banking system.  That is why we do not see many original notes.  The notes are just another form of debt-based  currency to which our homes are supposedly, but not effectively or legally, attached.

As to the &quot;mortgage crisis,&quot; Representative Marcy Kaptur said it best in the House of Representatives on 2/9/2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6uNSDz876s]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/fraudclosure-settlement-not-so-fast-bondholders-threatening-legal-action/#comment-362712">scarednearlystiff</a>.</p>
<p>Here are the 4 steps to taking over a sovereign nation, practiced by the CIA throughout the world and the KGB (now ruling  Russia via Putin.)<br />
1.  Demoralize<br />
2.  Destabilize<br />
3.  Create a crisis<br />
4.  Normalize  (We must not accept the &#8220;new normal.&#8221;<br />
The takeover has been attempted by, among other things:<br />
1.  Undereducating our citizens over 30 years; training students to be servants of the corporate state; medicating the citizens with psychotropic drugs for everything from &#8220;depression&#8221; to &#8220;chronic pain&#8221;; alienating families (two parents working harder and harder)<br />
2.  Destabilizing the economy (inflation and deflation of asset values, including the value of labor and the currency)<br />
3.  9/11 (blame the usual and then the mortgage crisis (blame the homeowner and not the banks) and throw citizens into the street<br />
4.  Normalize (get the population so scared that they turn a blind eye to injustice)</p>
<p>This cycle has been used effectively, time and time again, in Latin America,  in Europe and in Asia.  The plan may yet fail.  Too many still know history and can see through the dismal science, economics, which is better described as &#8220;the science of lies.&#8221;  Modern monetary theory is not a theory but the proper description of the alternative to a private, debt-based medium of exchange.<br />
Many of us know that we cannot be free by enslaving others.</p>
<p> Eventually we will free ourselves from the illusions of private property, but at least we can free ourselves in real time from the debt servitude imposed by private banks creating the currency.   I believe that the original mortgage notes are being traded as currency through the international banking system.  That is why we do not see many original notes.  The notes are just another form of debt-based  currency to which our homes are supposedly, but not effectively or legally, attached.</p>
<p>As to the &#8220;mortgage crisis,&#8221; Representative Marcy Kaptur said it best in the House of Representatives on 2/9/2009<br />
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		By: Attorney Wendy Alison Nora		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/fraudclosure-settlement-not-so-fast-bondholders-threatening-legal-action/#comment-362729&quot;&gt;lvent&lt;/a&gt;.

Ah, now that makes a lot of sense.  The private banks are the FED and the FED is the IMF.  The private banks are foreclosing on the hard assets of sovereign nations.]]></description>
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<p>Ah, now that makes a lot of sense.  The private banks are the FED and the FED is the IMF.  The private banks are foreclosing on the hard assets of sovereign nations.</p>
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		By: Attorney Wendy Alison Nora		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/fraudclosure-settlement-not-so-fast-bondholders-threatening-legal-action/#comment-363038</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/fraudclosure-settlement-not-so-fast-bondholders-threatening-legal-action/#comment-362709&quot;&gt;To Tell The Truth&lt;/a&gt;.

I do so enjoy the collective consciousness in action.  Following the REAL news, here, at ZeroHedge, Firedoglake, Naked Capitalism, Abigail Fields, Foreclosure Hamlet,  Mandelman Matters,  Matt Weidner&#039;s blog and some glimmers of truth in the Main Stream Media, it is amazing to find that, if I come to a realization from my independent research, I find that someone else has already expressed or expresses that same realization, often within 24 hours one way or the other.
ToTellTheTruth:  Earlier this year, I was reviewing mortgage documents for the umpteenth time when it hit me.   Yes, homeowners agreed to the sale of the mortgage loans BUT never agreed to securitization. Securitization is not a sale.  The investors were sold something that did not exist: mortgage backed securities.  The transfers to the REMIC trusts were never made as required by law.
I hope the investors intervene in the federal district court and put an end to the travesty of the hold harmless from fraud settlement terms.   Homeowners should do so as well.  I have been thinking of moving to intervene myself, as an person whose home of 14 years has been temporarily seized under a writ of assistance entered without notice, while I was out of town on business, by a foreclosure mill against which I frequently appear in court proceedings for clients.  Each homeowner has special facts and circumstances, but my case involves two copies of the mortgage note--no original was produced--one endorsed in blank and when I challenged it, a second (after the action was commenced) appeared with the top portion of the note containing the bar code covered with a piece of paper and photocopied over (this deletes the identifying information to allow the note to circulate in commerce) with special endorsements and an allonge.  Both cannot be true. 
I do hope God is watching, but if it is up to us alone, we are all in this together and have more than enough knowledge. Thank you, 4closurefraud for letting us share.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/fraudclosure-settlement-not-so-fast-bondholders-threatening-legal-action/#comment-362709">To Tell The Truth</a>.</p>
<p>I do so enjoy the collective consciousness in action.  Following the REAL news, here, at ZeroHedge, Firedoglake, Naked Capitalism, Abigail Fields, Foreclosure Hamlet,  Mandelman Matters,  Matt Weidner&#8217;s blog and some glimmers of truth in the Main Stream Media, it is amazing to find that, if I come to a realization from my independent research, I find that someone else has already expressed or expresses that same realization, often within 24 hours one way or the other.<br />
ToTellTheTruth:  Earlier this year, I was reviewing mortgage documents for the umpteenth time when it hit me.   Yes, homeowners agreed to the sale of the mortgage loans BUT never agreed to securitization. Securitization is not a sale.  The investors were sold something that did not exist: mortgage backed securities.  The transfers to the REMIC trusts were never made as required by law.<br />
I hope the investors intervene in the federal district court and put an end to the travesty of the hold harmless from fraud settlement terms.   Homeowners should do so as well.  I have been thinking of moving to intervene myself, as an person whose home of 14 years has been temporarily seized under a writ of assistance entered without notice, while I was out of town on business, by a foreclosure mill against which I frequently appear in court proceedings for clients.  Each homeowner has special facts and circumstances, but my case involves two copies of the mortgage note&#8211;no original was produced&#8211;one endorsed in blank and when I challenged it, a second (after the action was commenced) appeared with the top portion of the note containing the bar code covered with a piece of paper and photocopied over (this deletes the identifying information to allow the note to circulate in commerce) with special endorsements and an allonge.  Both cannot be true.<br />
I do hope God is watching, but if it is up to us alone, we are all in this together and have more than enough knowledge. Thank you, 4closurefraud for letting us share.</p>
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		By: lvent		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmmmm, the plot thickens..Bloomberg reported a few months ago that the IMF is one of the biggest bondsholder/shareholders in Fannie Mae...Bloomberg also reported that the FEDERAL RESERVE collects TRILLIONS of dollars a month in mortgage money...!!!  Bernanke said the Fed uses that ill gotten mortgage money to buy Treasuries with...!!!  In other words...The Fed is hoarding the peoples money and keeping their Ponzi Scheme with the U.S. TREASURY DEPT and Timothy Geithner going for the benefit of  themselves and their investor friends at the IMF/WORLD BANK......The FED &#038;Co. are HOARDING THE PEOPLES MONEY that they are not even owed.....They should be paying back the U.S TAXPAYERS FIRST AND FOREMOST...NOT THEMSELVES and THEIR INVESTORS...!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm, the plot thickens..Bloomberg reported a few months ago that the IMF is one of the biggest bondsholder/shareholders in Fannie Mae&#8230;Bloomberg also reported that the FEDERAL RESERVE collects TRILLIONS of dollars a month in mortgage money&#8230;!!!  Bernanke said the Fed uses that ill gotten mortgage money to buy Treasuries with&#8230;!!!  In other words&#8230;The Fed is hoarding the peoples money and keeping their Ponzi Scheme with the U.S. TREASURY DEPT and Timothy Geithner going for the benefit of  themselves and their investor friends at the IMF/WORLD BANK&#8230;&#8230;The FED &amp;Co. are HOARDING THE PEOPLES MONEY that they are not even owed&#8230;..They should be paying back the U.S TAXPAYERS FIRST AND FOREMOST&#8230;NOT THEMSELVES and THEIR INVESTORS&#8230;!!!</p>
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		By: scarednearlystiff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 00:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/fraudclosure-settlement-not-so-fast-bondholders-threatening-legal-action/#comment-362707&quot;&gt;Lynne&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Lynn, resonating with your post.   Well said.

But also sometimes strong causes make for  &quot;strange bedfellows.&quot;

If the homeowners don&#039;t want the settlement and the investors don&#039;t want the settlement, maybe both should link up in a virtual occupy platoon,   a MOP-UP.

Many Online Protecting -  Underlying Property.

Or you name it ...

Sincerely yours, SNS,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/03/20/fraudclosure-settlement-not-so-fast-bondholders-threatening-legal-action/#comment-362707">Lynne</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Lynn, resonating with your post.   Well said.</p>
<p>But also sometimes strong causes make for  &#8220;strange bedfellows.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the homeowners don&#8217;t want the settlement and the investors don&#8217;t want the settlement, maybe both should link up in a virtual occupy platoon,   a MOP-UP.</p>
<p>Many Online Protecting &#8211;  Underlying Property.</p>
<p>Or you name it &#8230;</p>
<p>Sincerely yours, SNS,</p>
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		By: To Tell The Truth		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As I said, this settlement wont hold...God is watching...it is an illegal settlement...homeowners have a contractual agreement with the mortgage companies and vice versa and the mortgage companies violated that also when they signed other contracts with investors unknown to the homeowner....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said, this settlement wont hold&#8230;God is watching&#8230;it is an illegal settlement&#8230;homeowners have a contractual agreement with the mortgage companies and vice versa and the mortgage companies violated that also when they signed other contracts with investors unknown to the homeowner&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Lynne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hard to feel sorry for folks who stood by while homeowners where raped in their name and did nothing.]]></description>
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