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	Comments on: Spears et al v. Washington Mutual &#124; Federal District Court Judge Grants Class Certification in Mortgage Appraisal Suit	</title>
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		By: angel		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/05/19/spears-et-al-v-washington-mutual-federal-district-court-judge-grants-class-certification-in-mortgage-appraisal-suit/#comment-375265&quot;&gt;To Tell The Truth&lt;/a&gt;.

I second that motion because that is where my loan and housing situation stemmed from though the house is in wisconsin]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/05/19/spears-et-al-v-washington-mutual-federal-district-court-judge-grants-class-certification-in-mortgage-appraisal-suit/#comment-375265">To Tell The Truth</a>.</p>
<p>I second that motion because that is where my loan and housing situation stemmed from though the house is in wisconsin</p>
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		By: Bobbi Swann		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/05/19/spears-et-al-v-washington-mutual-federal-district-court-judge-grants-class-certification-in-mortgage-appraisal-suit/#comment-375394</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobbi Swann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 16:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/05/19/spears-et-al-v-washington-mutual-federal-district-court-judge-grants-class-certification-in-mortgage-appraisal-suit/#comment-375290&quot;&gt;St. Elmos Fire&lt;/a&gt;.

As a mortgage broker, St. Elmos Fire, I can tell you that more times than naught I was told by a Realtor &quot;well, I have my own appraiser who can get my listing price&quot; and as an appraiser you also know that you could manipulate comps with percentages on adjustments, etc. to make the numbers work.  In actuality, your theory above probably did contribute to the added crisis but a lot of these appraisers were receiving &#039;kick backs&#039; from realtors and builders alike to raise values.  Besides, with so many sales occurring during the boom and values rising faster than the sun it would have been prudent on an appraiser to know that this was a volitale market.  Even I knew it was a bubble and soon to burst as I knew a market could not continue to bear such upswings in value.  C&#039;mon, there are ethic principles to abide by.  Not that I am a saint by any means but for these situations back then my answer more or less was &#039;hit the road, jack and don&#039;t ya come back no more,no more&#039;.  New regulations in my industry have weeded out most of the bad and it&#039;s now time for the other parts of the industry to do the same!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/05/19/spears-et-al-v-washington-mutual-federal-district-court-judge-grants-class-certification-in-mortgage-appraisal-suit/#comment-375290">St. Elmos Fire</a>.</p>
<p>As a mortgage broker, St. Elmos Fire, I can tell you that more times than naught I was told by a Realtor &#8220;well, I have my own appraiser who can get my listing price&#8221; and as an appraiser you also know that you could manipulate comps with percentages on adjustments, etc. to make the numbers work.  In actuality, your theory above probably did contribute to the added crisis but a lot of these appraisers were receiving &#8216;kick backs&#8217; from realtors and builders alike to raise values.  Besides, with so many sales occurring during the boom and values rising faster than the sun it would have been prudent on an appraiser to know that this was a volitale market.  Even I knew it was a bubble and soon to burst as I knew a market could not continue to bear such upswings in value.  C&#8217;mon, there are ethic principles to abide by.  Not that I am a saint by any means but for these situations back then my answer more or less was &#8216;hit the road, jack and don&#8217;t ya come back no more,no more&#8217;.  New regulations in my industry have weeded out most of the bad and it&#8217;s now time for the other parts of the industry to do the same!</p>
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		By: readdocs		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 15:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh sure...the appraiser shows up and asks you how much do you want it appraised for. 
What&#039;s not fraudulent about that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh sure&#8230;the appraiser shows up and asks you how much do you want it appraised for.<br />
What&#8217;s not fraudulent about that?</p>
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		By: St. Elmos Fire		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/05/19/spears-et-al-v-washington-mutual-federal-district-court-judge-grants-class-certification-in-mortgage-appraisal-suit/#comment-375290</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[St. Elmos Fire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 20:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As an appraiser, I  think it is important to lend some understanding of appraisal fraud in this situation. During the run up in real estate prices in the 2000&#039;s, it was actually very easy to appraise properties. There were pleanty of comps and almost every sale was higher than the last one as buyers were literally standing in line if the sale fell though for any reason, and willing to offer more. It made our jobs pretty easy.  However, I&#039;m sure various lenders put pressure on their favorite appraiser, every once in a while to bring the appraised value up so that the various closing costs could be met. However again, underwiting guidelines were so weakened from prior standards during the 1980&#039;s and 1990&#039;s that the guidelines encouraged 105% financing, no doc loans, neg am etc. to borrowers who were banking on the market continuing or at the very least maintaining it current levels. Those that had experienced the late 1970&#039;s and early 1980&#039;s boom in bust cycle in mortgage financing and real estate especially condos, apparently were causous but even took the risk, based on the number of overall foreclosures today. The point is that the bankers who controlled the underwriting, knowingly lowered standards to cause the irrational over-exuberence in the real estate market and once it was saturated and they has sold off their &quot;litterally fraudulent loans&quot;, they shorted the COD market that they had underwritten. The lowered underwritting standards pumps so much money in to the real estate market, that it was this that really caused real estate prices to rise so rapidly, hense the inflated appraisals.  Why eAppraiseIt is a defendent in this suit is interesting to me.  Appraising is considered both and art and a science and it is difficult to prove fraud by the appraiser because the market is not perfect and thus a certain percentage differential in the opinion of value has legally been considered acceptable historically.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an appraiser, I  think it is important to lend some understanding of appraisal fraud in this situation. During the run up in real estate prices in the 2000&#8217;s, it was actually very easy to appraise properties. There were pleanty of comps and almost every sale was higher than the last one as buyers were literally standing in line if the sale fell though for any reason, and willing to offer more. It made our jobs pretty easy.  However, I&#8217;m sure various lenders put pressure on their favorite appraiser, every once in a while to bring the appraised value up so that the various closing costs could be met. However again, underwiting guidelines were so weakened from prior standards during the 1980&#8217;s and 1990&#8217;s that the guidelines encouraged 105% financing, no doc loans, neg am etc. to borrowers who were banking on the market continuing or at the very least maintaining it current levels. Those that had experienced the late 1970&#8217;s and early 1980&#8217;s boom in bust cycle in mortgage financing and real estate especially condos, apparently were causous but even took the risk, based on the number of overall foreclosures today. The point is that the bankers who controlled the underwriting, knowingly lowered standards to cause the irrational over-exuberence in the real estate market and once it was saturated and they has sold off their &#8220;litterally fraudulent loans&#8221;, they shorted the COD market that they had underwritten. The lowered underwritting standards pumps so much money in to the real estate market, that it was this that really caused real estate prices to rise so rapidly, hense the inflated appraisals.  Why eAppraiseIt is a defendent in this suit is interesting to me.  Appraising is considered both and art and a science and it is difficult to prove fraud by the appraiser because the market is not perfect and thus a certain percentage differential in the opinion of value has legally been considered acceptable historically.</p>
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		By: To Tell The Truth		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/05/19/spears-et-al-v-washington-mutual-federal-district-court-judge-grants-class-certification-in-mortgage-appraisal-suit/#comment-375265</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[To Tell The Truth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 16:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They should also look into Florida and WAMU]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should also look into Florida and WAMU</p>
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