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		By: chitown2020		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/20/former-marine-locked-in-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts/#comment-401842</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 03:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Gov. Corp certainly does not deserve our respect. They failed the American people and they are abusing their power all over the place. They have no respect for the U.S.C. or any of us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gov. Corp certainly does not deserve our respect. They failed the American people and they are abusing their power all over the place. They have no respect for the U.S.C. or any of us.</p>
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		By: JJ		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/20/former-marine-locked-in-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts/#comment-401837</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 02:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[STOP AND THINK !!  LEARN FROM THIS !!  Brandon is vulnerable because some of his posts could be perceived as condoning violence.  Remember Dr. Martin Luther King and his teachings of non-violence .. Dr. King taught us how to avoid what is happening to Brandon.  We can help Brandon by using non-violent protest. He should not be detained without due process of law. Even if he is suspected of being a danger to society, he should be charged with something before he can be detained against his will.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>STOP AND THINK !!  LEARN FROM THIS !!  Brandon is vulnerable because some of his posts could be perceived as condoning violence.  Remember Dr. Martin Luther King and his teachings of non-violence .. Dr. King taught us how to avoid what is happening to Brandon.  We can help Brandon by using non-violent protest. He should not be detained without due process of law. Even if he is suspected of being a danger to society, he should be charged with something before he can be detained against his will.</p>
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		By: John Anderson		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/20/former-marine-locked-in-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts/#comment-401772</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/20/former-marine-locked-in-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts/#comment-401769&quot;&gt;John Anderson&lt;/a&gt;.

continued.
“He had an opportunity to share and respond to the questions being asked him about his Facebook posts,” his mother, Cathleen Thomas, told WTVR. “He responded and explained himself, and the judge also allowed me to give some facts and basically a character representation of my son, which I did. And then he proceeded to read the (mental health) evaluation that was given on Brandon. The evaluation, I was told by my son, was 15 minutes long, and basically the evaluator said that he was not ready to go back into society and he needed additional psychiatric treatment.”

And with that, the special justice ordered Raub’s continued detention at a Veterans Administration hospital for up to 30 more days.

“For government officials to not only arrest Brandon Raub for doing nothing more than exercising his First Amendment rights but to actually force him to undergo psychological evaluations and detain him against his will goes against every constitutional principle this country was founded upon. This should be a wake-up call to Americans that the police state is here,” Whitehead said. “Brandon Raub is no different from the majority of Americans who use their private Facebook pages to post a variety of content, ranging from song lyrics and political hyperbole to trash talking their neighbors, friends and government leaders.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/20/former-marine-locked-in-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts/#comment-401769">John Anderson</a>.</p>
<p>continued.<br />
“He had an opportunity to share and respond to the questions being asked him about his Facebook posts,” his mother, Cathleen Thomas, told WTVR. “He responded and explained himself, and the judge also allowed me to give some facts and basically a character representation of my son, which I did. And then he proceeded to read the (mental health) evaluation that was given on Brandon. The evaluation, I was told by my son, was 15 minutes long, and basically the evaluator said that he was not ready to go back into society and he needed additional psychiatric treatment.”</p>
<p>And with that, the special justice ordered Raub’s continued detention at a Veterans Administration hospital for up to 30 more days.</p>
<p>“For government officials to not only arrest Brandon Raub for doing nothing more than exercising his First Amendment rights but to actually force him to undergo psychological evaluations and detain him against his will goes against every constitutional principle this country was founded upon. This should be a wake-up call to Americans that the police state is here,” Whitehead said. “Brandon Raub is no different from the majority of Americans who use their private Facebook pages to post a variety of content, ranging from song lyrics and political hyperbole to trash talking their neighbors, friends and government leaders.”</p>
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		By: John Anderson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wednesday, 22 August 2012 14:10 Former Marine Held in Psychiatric Hospital Over Facebook Posts Questioning Govt. 
Written by  Michael Tennant font size decrease font size  increase font size  Print Email 
 “The police state is here.”

Thus spoke John Whitehead, president of the Rutherford Institute, in reference to the arrest and involuntary commitment of former U.S. Marine Brandon J. Raub (pictured) of Chesterfield County, Virginia. On August 16, Raub was visited at his home by Federal Bureau of Investigation agents and Chesterfield County police because of alleged complaints about Raub’s Facebook posts, many of which questioned the received wisdom from Washington, D.C., and a few of which suggested violence. According to the Rutherford Institute, which is defending Raub, police and FBI agents “did not provide Raub with a search warrant,” but he nevertheless “was cooperative and agreed to speak with them.”

“Without providing any explanation, levying any charges against Raub or reading him his rights, law enforcement officials then handcuffed Raub and transported him first to the police headquarters, then to John Randolph Medical Center, where he was held against his will,” wrote the Institute.

Chesterfield County Police Chief Col. Theirry Depuis told the Associated Press that Raub was detained “upon the recommendation of mental health crisis intervention workers,” who apparently considered dangerous the Marine sergeant who served honorably in Iraq and Afghanistan and who, according to Richmond television station WTVR, has a “clean” criminal history and “no mental health history.” Under Virginia’s emergency custody statute, an individual can be subjected to civil detention and psychiatric evaluation if he is considered a threat to himself or others.

At a hearing before a special justice on August 20, Raub was asked about his Facebook posts.

“He had an opportunity to share and respond to the questions being asked him about his Facebook posts,”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wednesday, 22 August 2012 14:10 Former Marine Held in Psychiatric Hospital Over Facebook Posts Questioning Govt.<br />
Written by  Michael Tennant font size decrease font size  increase font size  Print Email<br />
 “The police state is here.”</p>
<p>Thus spoke John Whitehead, president of the Rutherford Institute, in reference to the arrest and involuntary commitment of former U.S. Marine Brandon J. Raub (pictured) of Chesterfield County, Virginia. On August 16, Raub was visited at his home by Federal Bureau of Investigation agents and Chesterfield County police because of alleged complaints about Raub’s Facebook posts, many of which questioned the received wisdom from Washington, D.C., and a few of which suggested violence. According to the Rutherford Institute, which is defending Raub, police and FBI agents “did not provide Raub with a search warrant,” but he nevertheless “was cooperative and agreed to speak with them.”</p>
<p>“Without providing any explanation, levying any charges against Raub or reading him his rights, law enforcement officials then handcuffed Raub and transported him first to the police headquarters, then to John Randolph Medical Center, where he was held against his will,” wrote the Institute.</p>
<p>Chesterfield County Police Chief Col. Theirry Depuis told the Associated Press that Raub was detained “upon the recommendation of mental health crisis intervention workers,” who apparently considered dangerous the Marine sergeant who served honorably in Iraq and Afghanistan and who, according to Richmond television station WTVR, has a “clean” criminal history and “no mental health history.” Under Virginia’s emergency custody statute, an individual can be subjected to civil detention and psychiatric evaluation if he is considered a threat to himself or others.</p>
<p>At a hearing before a special justice on August 20, Raub was asked about his Facebook posts.</p>
<p>“He had an opportunity to share and respond to the questions being asked him about his Facebook posts,”</p>
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		By: John Anderson		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/20/former-marine-locked-in-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts/#comment-401755</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great video from the mental health professionals who explain people&#039;s denial when presented with facts that go against a persons core beliefs, such as 9/11 or the mega huge bank fraud that has been committed against America.
Because it&#039;s hard to believe that you can not trust your government, trust your bank, trust your legislators, or trust your courts.
Thanks to all the folks at 4closurefraud for having the courage to publish this story, and please if you can update the story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great video from the mental health professionals who explain people&#8217;s denial when presented with facts that go against a persons core beliefs, such as 9/11 or the mega huge bank fraud that has been committed against America.<br />
Because it&#8217;s hard to believe that you can not trust your government, trust your bank, trust your legislators, or trust your courts.<br />
Thanks to all the folks at 4closurefraud for having the courage to publish this story, and please if you can update the story.</p>
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		By: usjustice4all		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/20/former-marine-locked-in-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts/#comment-401731</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[usjustice4all]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 18:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is the update?????????????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the update?????????????</p>
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		By: John McCormick		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/20/former-marine-locked-in-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts/#comment-401537</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McCormick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/20/former-marine-locked-in-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts/#comment-401438&quot;&gt;John Anderson&lt;/a&gt;.

John Anderson&#039;s options for settling the debt are for the most part unworkable. In the case of the Fed owning (claiming) 75+% of the land in Nevada, a short history lesson will reveal that the fed obtained the land through fraudulent use of federal agents. The ceding of the territory to the Fed was accomplished by agents of the Fed. I believe that many other States have the same history. The most workable solution is that which had Lincoln assassinated. The issue of dollars directly by the Treasury is discussed at length in Ellen Brown’s book “web of debt”  it is a very good read. http://www.webofdebt.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/20/former-marine-locked-in-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts/#comment-401438">John Anderson</a>.</p>
<p>John Anderson&#8217;s options for settling the debt are for the most part unworkable. In the case of the Fed owning (claiming) 75+% of the land in Nevada, a short history lesson will reveal that the fed obtained the land through fraudulent use of federal agents. The ceding of the territory to the Fed was accomplished by agents of the Fed. I believe that many other States have the same history. The most workable solution is that which had Lincoln assassinated. The issue of dollars directly by the Treasury is discussed at length in Ellen Brown’s book “web of debt”  it is a very good read. <a href="http://www.webofdebt.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.webofdebt.com</a></p>
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		By: david black		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/20/former-marine-locked-in-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts/#comment-401487</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[david black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/20/former-marine-locked-in-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts/#comment-401484&quot;&gt;John McCormick&lt;/a&gt;.

you are welcome 

please sign my petition to end mortgage discrmination  from us hud secretary dononvan. apprecicate your support of we disabled veterans like myself 
to keep our homes.

best regards and you are most welcome

david black

please click link or copy and paste andclick sign my petition on change.org

http://www.change.org/petitions/homeowners-discrimination-petititions-to-us-federal-govt-hud-agency-for-bank-restitution]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/20/former-marine-locked-in-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts/#comment-401484">John McCormick</a>.</p>
<p>you are welcome </p>
<p>please sign my petition to end mortgage discrmination  from us hud secretary dononvan. apprecicate your support of we disabled veterans like myself<br />
to keep our homes.</p>
<p>best regards and you are most welcome</p>
<p>david black</p>
<p>please click link or copy and paste andclick sign my petition on change.org</p>
<p><a href="http://www.change.org/petitions/homeowners-discrimination-petititions-to-us-federal-govt-hud-agency-for-bank-restitution" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.change.org/petitions/homeowners-discrimination-petititions-to-us-federal-govt-hud-agency-for-bank-restitution</a></p>
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		By: John McCormick		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/20/former-marine-locked-in-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts/#comment-401484</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John McCormick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/20/former-marine-locked-in-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts/#comment-401438&quot;&gt;John Anderson&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks David!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/08/20/former-marine-locked-in-psychiatric-ward-over-facebook-posts/#comment-401438">John Anderson</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks David!</p>
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		By: John Anderson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks to 4closurefraud for publishing this.
I hope more people will see the connection between 9/11 and the phony economic crisis. These acts have put the cherry on top of the cake they have been baking over the last 30 years where the middle class has had a 17% drop in real wages.
Only by raising awareness of the reasons we find ourselves in the currant situation will we be able to effect meaningful changes required for future prosperity.
Much is talked about cutting the deficit, but not about retiring the debt.
If over half of our taxes are going to pay interest on the debt, could we not cut tax&#039;s in half if we retired it?
Andrew Jackson was the last President to do this.
With the debt close to 19 Trillion it has doubled under the last two Presidents.
How can we get out from under this crushing debt?
1 We could declare bankruptcy. A act that may result in global financial collapse, &#038; possible war, or
2 A. We could sell off a good part of the 72% of the land mass in America owned by the government, a lot of which is ocean front, lake front, river front and large tracks of land that could be used for farming, mining, and other uses.
B. Legalize and tax all drugs, with all money going to retire the debt. This would have multiple benefits as we would end the disastrous war on drugs. Over 1 million people in prison are there on drug charges, and 50 K killed on the Mexican border because of our drug policy.
C. Federal Lottery. Grand Prize 1000 acres and 10 Million.
D. Temporary tax on gas/fuels until the debt is retired.
If we were to implement the debt, the most of it owed to the Federal Reserve system that we need to abolish as it charges us 3% of every dollar printed
Congress has the power to coin debt free money to fund a national high speed rail system, a project that would take 10/20 years, a long term economic engine.
America is worth over 300 Trillion, we can pay off 19
The Secret of Oz - Winner, Best Docu of 2010 
http://youtu.be/swkq2E8mswI]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to 4closurefraud for publishing this.<br />
I hope more people will see the connection between 9/11 and the phony economic crisis. These acts have put the cherry on top of the cake they have been baking over the last 30 years where the middle class has had a 17% drop in real wages.<br />
Only by raising awareness of the reasons we find ourselves in the currant situation will we be able to effect meaningful changes required for future prosperity.<br />
Much is talked about cutting the deficit, but not about retiring the debt.<br />
If over half of our taxes are going to pay interest on the debt, could we not cut tax&#8217;s in half if we retired it?<br />
Andrew Jackson was the last President to do this.<br />
With the debt close to 19 Trillion it has doubled under the last two Presidents.<br />
How can we get out from under this crushing debt?<br />
1 We could declare bankruptcy. A act that may result in global financial collapse, &amp; possible war, or<br />
2 A. We could sell off a good part of the 72% of the land mass in America owned by the government, a lot of which is ocean front, lake front, river front and large tracks of land that could be used for farming, mining, and other uses.<br />
B. Legalize and tax all drugs, with all money going to retire the debt. This would have multiple benefits as we would end the disastrous war on drugs. Over 1 million people in prison are there on drug charges, and 50 K killed on the Mexican border because of our drug policy.<br />
C. Federal Lottery. Grand Prize 1000 acres and 10 Million.<br />
D. Temporary tax on gas/fuels until the debt is retired.<br />
If we were to implement the debt, the most of it owed to the Federal Reserve system that we need to abolish as it charges us 3% of every dollar printed<br />
Congress has the power to coin debt free money to fund a national high speed rail system, a project that would take 10/20 years, a long term economic engine.<br />
America is worth over 300 Trillion, we can pay off 19<br />
The Secret of Oz &#8211; Winner, Best Docu of 2010<br />
<a href="http://youtu.be/swkq2E8mswI" rel="nofollow ugc">http://youtu.be/swkq2E8mswI</a></p>
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