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		By: Carla Phillips		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carla Phillips]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 04:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boa is foreclosing on my hom Nov 6...how.can.I get help since boa will not help..they keep saying the didn&#039;t receive this and they need that...it&#039;s just a bunch of BS...any advice on what I should do? Email if you have an idea
babydotamber@yahoo.com
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boa is foreclosing on my hom Nov 6&#8230;how.can.I get help since boa will not help..they keep saying the didn&#8217;t receive this and they need that&#8230;it&#8217;s just a bunch of BS&#8230;any advice on what I should do? Email if you have an idea<br />
<a href="mailto:babydotamber@yahoo.com">babydotamber@yahoo.com</a><br />
Thanks</p>
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		By: BobSublime		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BobSublime]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 18:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have much respect for Matt Weidner.   He has been in the trenches, fighting the banksters and judges on behalf of the homeowner, for many years.  He is a lawyer and I am not. 

And there are many curious aspects of this massive lawsuit:  
- Free pass for George 43, who slept while Dick-the-Vice and the Republicans aided the bankers in laying waste to America,  
- a press release in the body of the complaint (??), 
- damages no greater then $75K for any plaintiff, 
- an alleged &quot;enemies list&quot; that includes most of the richest and most outspoken Republicans in the country.  (Now we know where the money came from behind this lawsuit.) 

However, it seems that the Spire lawyers got it right that this is a massive banker fraud on everyone, abetted by higher-ups in the Government. And that now nobody knows who, if anyone, owns your or my mortgage.

We can only wait and watch this unfold to find out if it is like all of the other bogus &quot;homeowner assistance,&quot; programs like the AG Settlement, HARP, HAMP, etc., which helped only the banks.  

Also, litigation takes years, and may not help anyone presently embroiled in foreclosure. 

I just pray that it is legitimate...

Bob]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have much respect for Matt Weidner.   He has been in the trenches, fighting the banksters and judges on behalf of the homeowner, for many years.  He is a lawyer and I am not. </p>
<p>And there are many curious aspects of this massive lawsuit:<br />
&#8211; Free pass for George 43, who slept while Dick-the-Vice and the Republicans aided the bankers in laying waste to America,<br />
&#8211; a press release in the body of the complaint (??),<br />
&#8211; damages no greater then $75K for any plaintiff,<br />
&#8211; an alleged &#8220;enemies list&#8221; that includes most of the richest and most outspoken Republicans in the country.  (Now we know where the money came from behind this lawsuit.) </p>
<p>However, it seems that the Spire lawyers got it right that this is a massive banker fraud on everyone, abetted by higher-ups in the Government. And that now nobody knows who, if anyone, owns your or my mortgage.</p>
<p>We can only wait and watch this unfold to find out if it is like all of the other bogus &#8220;homeowner assistance,&#8221; programs like the AG Settlement, HARP, HAMP, etc., which helped only the banks.  </p>
<p>Also, litigation takes years, and may not help anyone presently embroiled in foreclosure. </p>
<p>I just pray that it is legitimate&#8230;</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		By: Liz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 04:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/10/26/complaint-banksters-governmental-officials-and-their-comrade-capitalists-targets-of-racketeering-and-money-laundering-lawsuit-seeking-return-of-43-trillion-dollars/#comment-404434&quot;&gt;MERS Homeowner Too&lt;/a&gt;.

Homeowner Too, I fully agree with you that our cooperation is needed. Our feelings, though row and well-founded, won&#039;t help. But the facts will speak for themselves. Let&#039;s create a thread with RICO facts, where the first poster reminds us all what constitutes a claim under RICO and what facts fall under RICO.
We should create kind of a form to be filled out to specify the state, the &quot;lender/servicer/investor, the known fact, the date/s it happened, and a law firm involved.
This way, our factual help will be real and maybe, maybe, our outcries will be heard.
Still, I have a few questions. If it is a RICO complaint, it should be a criminal, yes? So, why the plaintiffs are the individuals and not the state or federal? If it is a class action, is someone else, similar situated, allowed to join or contribute or volunteer to be a witness?
Again, I agree that criticizing this mammoth of a complaint just won&#039;t help.
I also agree with JohnR that in a long run some borrowers may be hurt with the uncertain processing and the final outcome of this case. So, let&#039;s explore the worst case scenarios.

Honestly, I was glad to see this case filed. Someone dared to bring everything in the open, thus creating a recorded history in the bringing the evil system down.  It may be a slow process, it may seem like a drop in the bucket, but &quot;a drop hollows out a stone&quot;, right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/10/26/complaint-banksters-governmental-officials-and-their-comrade-capitalists-targets-of-racketeering-and-money-laundering-lawsuit-seeking-return-of-43-trillion-dollars/#comment-404434">MERS Homeowner Too</a>.</p>
<p>Homeowner Too, I fully agree with you that our cooperation is needed. Our feelings, though row and well-founded, won&#8217;t help. But the facts will speak for themselves. Let&#8217;s create a thread with RICO facts, where the first poster reminds us all what constitutes a claim under RICO and what facts fall under RICO.<br />
We should create kind of a form to be filled out to specify the state, the &#8220;lender/servicer/investor, the known fact, the date/s it happened, and a law firm involved.<br />
This way, our factual help will be real and maybe, maybe, our outcries will be heard.<br />
Still, I have a few questions. If it is a RICO complaint, it should be a criminal, yes? So, why the plaintiffs are the individuals and not the state or federal? If it is a class action, is someone else, similar situated, allowed to join or contribute or volunteer to be a witness?<br />
Again, I agree that criticizing this mammoth of a complaint just won&#8217;t help.<br />
I also agree with JohnR that in a long run some borrowers may be hurt with the uncertain processing and the final outcome of this case. So, let&#8217;s explore the worst case scenarios.</p>
<p>Honestly, I was glad to see this case filed. Someone dared to bring everything in the open, thus creating a recorded history in the bringing the evil system down.  It may be a slow process, it may seem like a drop in the bucket, but &#8220;a drop hollows out a stone&#8221;, right?</p>
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		By: DL Clementson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DL Clementson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 23:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Look around you, somewhere hiding undercover are the TBTF Bankers and their government backers and one of them is blowing on a duck call, quack, quack.  This mass joinder law suit has the potential to suck in every other similarly filed litigation within the 50 states and where will that leave us?  Tied to litigation that will take years and years just to reach a responsive pleading stage.  Looks good on paper but so did those mortgage documents you signed way back when.......
Nothing happens by mistake with these people and the news media don&#039;t report anything that they haven&#039;t been given permission by the Corporation to release.
Don&#039;t follow the sound of that duck call unless you want to be a sitting duck once again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look around you, somewhere hiding undercover are the TBTF Bankers and their government backers and one of them is blowing on a duck call, quack, quack.  This mass joinder law suit has the potential to suck in every other similarly filed litigation within the 50 states and where will that leave us?  Tied to litigation that will take years and years just to reach a responsive pleading stage.  Looks good on paper but so did those mortgage documents you signed way back when&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
Nothing happens by mistake with these people and the news media don&#8217;t report anything that they haven&#8217;t been given permission by the Corporation to release.<br />
Don&#8217;t follow the sound of that duck call unless you want to be a sitting duck once again.</p>
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		By: DL Clementson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DL Clementson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yode,

I don&#039;t know where you get the idea that I am a defeatist, I&#039;ve personally been in this fight against, first Countrywide and now Bank of America, N.A. since October 2006 as a pro se litigantand I always encourage people to continue the fight in anyway possible.
That said, the reason I don&#039;t put any faith in this kind of joinder mass litigation is because it does not help those of us who need help NOW.  Just like all the so-called homeowner relief programs and all of the hopla surrounding the 50 state Attorneys General investigation, where did any of that get us, 2, 3, and now 4 years down the road and how many people have been made homeless waiting for relief.
Even if this lawsuit has the potential to expose the truth about what really has and still is going on it will not help those who need help now.  This too is part of the big picture, history may record that our government played a big part in the TBTF Bank conspiracy that robbed the wealth of the American middle-class but by the time the facts are revealed all those harmed will be dead and gone.

We need justice now and this mass joinder litigation will not provide it...........  But don&#039;t call me a defeatist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yode,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where you get the idea that I am a defeatist, I&#8217;ve personally been in this fight against, first Countrywide and now Bank of America, N.A. since October 2006 as a pro se litigantand I always encourage people to continue the fight in anyway possible.<br />
That said, the reason I don&#8217;t put any faith in this kind of joinder mass litigation is because it does not help those of us who need help NOW.  Just like all the so-called homeowner relief programs and all of the hopla surrounding the 50 state Attorneys General investigation, where did any of that get us, 2, 3, and now 4 years down the road and how many people have been made homeless waiting for relief.<br />
Even if this lawsuit has the potential to expose the truth about what really has and still is going on it will not help those who need help now.  This too is part of the big picture, history may record that our government played a big part in the TBTF Bank conspiracy that robbed the wealth of the American middle-class but by the time the facts are revealed all those harmed will be dead and gone.</p>
<p>We need justice now and this mass joinder litigation will not provide it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..  But don&#8217;t call me a defeatist.</p>
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		By: DL Clementson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DL Clementson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 07:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now comes the motion to compel in order to get Wells to comply with discovery.  Taking on these banks is alot like being stuck in Groundhogs Day.
When I wake up on Thursday morning it will be the start of my 7th year in this unbelievable nightmare.
Good luck in your fight with Wells, they can be beaten.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now comes the motion to compel in order to get Wells to comply with discovery.  Taking on these banks is alot like being stuck in Groundhogs Day.<br />
When I wake up on Thursday morning it will be the start of my 7th year in this unbelievable nightmare.<br />
Good luck in your fight with Wells, they can be beaten.</p>
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		By: MERS Homeowner Too		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MERS Homeowner Too]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RICO lawsuits are always serious.  And the perps are dangerous people. So the lawyers filing this are not playing around. Neither should the homeowners.  I agree with &quot;All&quot;.  As many homeowners and alternative news press people should be covering this story and following it as it evolves.  RICO is a criminal enterprise and these crooks do not play lightly.  Lives are on the line. Be aware.  Do what you can to help out instead of criticize.  These are the only lawyers that have actually gone so far as to call a spade a spade.  I always knew this was a RICO situation from the beginning.  Now its time for homeowners to stand together to help these lawyers or join the suit in a Mass Joinder and speak out against corruption.  RICO lawsuits are not for babies.  RICO is what put John Gotti and other famous mafioso in the clinker.  RICO lawsuits are also what endanger lives.  No lawyer files a RICO not knowing the risks.  Understand this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RICO lawsuits are always serious.  And the perps are dangerous people. So the lawyers filing this are not playing around. Neither should the homeowners.  I agree with &#8220;All&#8221;.  As many homeowners and alternative news press people should be covering this story and following it as it evolves.  RICO is a criminal enterprise and these crooks do not play lightly.  Lives are on the line. Be aware.  Do what you can to help out instead of criticize.  These are the only lawyers that have actually gone so far as to call a spade a spade.  I always knew this was a RICO situation from the beginning.  Now its time for homeowners to stand together to help these lawyers or join the suit in a Mass Joinder and speak out against corruption.  RICO lawsuits are not for babies.  RICO is what put John Gotti and other famous mafioso in the clinker.  RICO lawsuits are also what endanger lives.  No lawyer files a RICO not knowing the risks.  Understand this.</p>
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		By: All		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[All]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This case is a contingency case correct? They filed a massive complaint, server 1000 people? No one engages these huge resources and time if they are not serious. The Press release was a great idea. Instead of criticizing, let us offer our help. Sure there will be many motions to dismiss, suppress, but they got a lot into the Complaint. It is a public record. It is no joke. Unconventional? Yes. Serious? It seems so! Lets get on board in any way we can. We need to follow this case, go to the hearings, obtain and disseminate pleadings, etc. We need to start a fund that will allow us to procure records, etc. where they are available to the public. A Facebook page would be good if someone knows how to set up and manage it in this manner. We need to keep this in the fore.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This case is a contingency case correct? They filed a massive complaint, server 1000 people? No one engages these huge resources and time if they are not serious. The Press release was a great idea. Instead of criticizing, let us offer our help. Sure there will be many motions to dismiss, suppress, but they got a lot into the Complaint. It is a public record. It is no joke. Unconventional? Yes. Serious? It seems so! Lets get on board in any way we can. We need to follow this case, go to the hearings, obtain and disseminate pleadings, etc. We need to start a fund that will allow us to procure records, etc. where they are available to the public. A Facebook page would be good if someone knows how to set up and manage it in this manner. We need to keep this in the fore.</p>
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		By: JohnR		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 02:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Of course it makes me feel good to see this kind of action being brought... of course I wish only the best of luck to those bringing it... my real question is... if it&#039;s not done right, if it fails... what have we all lost?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it makes me feel good to see this kind of action being brought&#8230; of course I wish only the best of luck to those bringing it&#8230; my real question is&#8230; if it&#8217;s not done right, if it fails&#8230; what have we all lost?</p>
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		By: Yode		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yode]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 01:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/10/26/complaint-banksters-governmental-officials-and-their-comrade-capitalists-targets-of-racketeering-and-money-laundering-lawsuit-seeking-return-of-43-trillion-dollars/#comment-404381&quot;&gt;DL Clementson&lt;/a&gt;.

When you understand that all these &quot;deals&quot; which are made are not worth the paper they are written on, you will understand why the PTB are fighting to the bitter end. It is literally a life and death battle for them. What do you think the people will do to them when the truth comes out? And now, with this Obama thing coming out about how he told the armed forces to &quot;stand down&quot; when they were quite capable of saving those folks in Benghazi....Well, lets just say the end is near for a whole host of folks on both sides of the Wall Street Banks/Washington DC revolving door. Even the CIA is putting it on the record it was not they who forsake the Americans sacrificed in Benghazi and Hillary is throwing Obambam under the bus. Of course, judging from your defeatist attitude, I would say that you already know all this, right DL? Is there a reason you would not want the people to persue accountability for such a treasonous act as this lawsuit exposes? And as for your last comment, I challenge you to provide any evidence that this lawsuit is not legitimate, or anything alleged is not accurate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/10/26/complaint-banksters-governmental-officials-and-their-comrade-capitalists-targets-of-racketeering-and-money-laundering-lawsuit-seeking-return-of-43-trillion-dollars/#comment-404381">DL Clementson</a>.</p>
<p>When you understand that all these &#8220;deals&#8221; which are made are not worth the paper they are written on, you will understand why the PTB are fighting to the bitter end. It is literally a life and death battle for them. What do you think the people will do to them when the truth comes out? And now, with this Obama thing coming out about how he told the armed forces to &#8220;stand down&#8221; when they were quite capable of saving those folks in Benghazi&#8230;.Well, lets just say the end is near for a whole host of folks on both sides of the Wall Street Banks/Washington DC revolving door. Even the CIA is putting it on the record it was not they who forsake the Americans sacrificed in Benghazi and Hillary is throwing Obambam under the bus. Of course, judging from your defeatist attitude, I would say that you already know all this, right DL? Is there a reason you would not want the people to persue accountability for such a treasonous act as this lawsuit exposes? And as for your last comment, I challenge you to provide any evidence that this lawsuit is not legitimate, or anything alleged is not accurate.</p>
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