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	Comments on: Country Club Sopranos &#124; American Banks Are On A Massive Crime Spree. Obama and Romney Hope You Won’t Notice.	</title>
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		By: Alabama John		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alabama John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 20:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wouldn&#039;t you hate to be a Bank or Mortgage Company going before a local good ol&#039; boy jury against a good ol&#039; boy homeowner or even worse, an unjustly harmed homeowner? Who do you think would have to do the most explaining of their position.
 Win? You bet!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t you hate to be a Bank or Mortgage Company going before a local good ol&#8217; boy jury against a good ol&#8217; boy homeowner or even worse, an unjustly harmed homeowner? Who do you think would have to do the most explaining of their position.<br />
 Win? You bet!!!</p>
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		By: neidermeyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neidermeyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/11/04/country-club-sopranos-american-banks-are-on-a-massive-crime-spree-obama-and-romney-hope-you-wont-notice/#comment-404729&quot;&gt;neidermeyer&lt;/a&gt;.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-10-31/business/os-state-takeover-kel-title-20121031_1_title-insurer-law-firm-receivership]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/11/04/country-club-sopranos-american-banks-are-on-a-massive-crime-spree-obama-and-romney-hope-you-wont-notice/#comment-404729">neidermeyer</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-10-31/business/os-state-takeover-kel-title-20121031_1_title-insurer-law-firm-receivership" rel="nofollow ugc">http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-10-31/business/os-state-takeover-kel-title-20121031_1_title-insurer-law-firm-receivership</a></p>
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		By: neidermeyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neidermeyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/11/04/country-club-sopranos-american-banks-are-on-a-massive-crime-spree-obama-and-romney-hope-you-wont-notice/#comment-404713&quot;&gt;PENDINGLAWSUIT&lt;/a&gt;.

@Pendinglawsuit , 

I took note of that also ,, I think it needs to be expanded upon and re-posted in many of the forums ... That is an important event...

ALSO , 

If you had a closing in Central FLORIDA and K.E.L. Title was the closing agent please note that they are currently in receivership... Their books are currently being audited by the state and ALL their records will be publicly accessible ... I have a &quot;complete&quot; closing package from them that has wire instructions and names the actual funding source ... I can&#039;t wait to get my hands on the e:mails THAT WILL BECOME PUBLIC RECORD that gave them instructions on how to disburse funds and what to do if the closing is cancelled or delayed...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/11/04/country-club-sopranos-american-banks-are-on-a-massive-crime-spree-obama-and-romney-hope-you-wont-notice/#comment-404713">PENDINGLAWSUIT</a>.</p>
<p>@Pendinglawsuit , </p>
<p>I took note of that also ,, I think it needs to be expanded upon and re-posted in many of the forums &#8230; That is an important event&#8230;</p>
<p>ALSO , </p>
<p>If you had a closing in Central FLORIDA and K.E.L. Title was the closing agent please note that they are currently in receivership&#8230; Their books are currently being audited by the state and ALL their records will be publicly accessible &#8230; I have a &#8220;complete&#8221; closing package from them that has wire instructions and names the actual funding source &#8230; I can&#8217;t wait to get my hands on the e:mails THAT WILL BECOME PUBLIC RECORD that gave them instructions on how to disburse funds and what to do if the closing is cancelled or delayed&#8230;</p>
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		By: Ken Hansen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken Hansen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 00:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Public hostility towards our elected bagmen soars, and a Justice department that won&#039;t.  Hardly motivation to go and vote, but it is inspiring that at least a few good guys are out there.  
Blakey: &quot;The real theft was on Wall Street… All of the people who ran the scams have their big houses and their airplanes and they’re laughing.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public hostility towards our elected bagmen soars, and a Justice department that won&#8217;t.  Hardly motivation to go and vote, but it is inspiring that at least a few good guys are out there.<br />
Blakey: &#8220;The real theft was on Wall Street… All of the people who ran the scams have their big houses and their airplanes and they’re laughing.&#8221;</p>
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		By: JJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 22:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The politicians are dependant on the banks for campaign contributions to help them win elections .. we won&#039;t get any where until we have campaign reform where the banks and big corporations can&#039;t pay off the politicians with campaign contributions .. as long as the politicians need the big money from banks and big business, they will do what the banks and corporations want them to do (little or nothing about big business crimes).. maybe Obama can do something in a second term, because he can&#039;t run again after that, and therefore he won&#039;t need money from big business .. maybe then he will be free to help us .. let&#039;s hope so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The politicians are dependant on the banks for campaign contributions to help them win elections .. we won&#8217;t get any where until we have campaign reform where the banks and big corporations can&#8217;t pay off the politicians with campaign contributions .. as long as the politicians need the big money from banks and big business, they will do what the banks and corporations want them to do (little or nothing about big business crimes).. maybe Obama can do something in a second term, because he can&#8217;t run again after that, and therefore he won&#8217;t need money from big business .. maybe then he will be free to help us .. let&#8217;s hope so.</p>
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		By: Louise		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Louise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 19:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I do not see how this will be addressed until Probably?? January 2013.  I think 2013 is going to be a very interesting year.  In order for the economy to return to real viability, the housing mess has to be cleaned up.  If you have an account in WFB, JP Morgan Chase, Bank of NY Mellon, BoA or any other huge, stinking national bank, move your money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not see how this will be addressed until Probably?? January 2013.  I think 2013 is going to be a very interesting year.  In order for the economy to return to real viability, the housing mess has to be cleaned up.  If you have an account in WFB, JP Morgan Chase, Bank of NY Mellon, BoA or any other huge, stinking national bank, move your money.</p>
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		By: Rob Harrington		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Harrington]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 19:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2012/11/04/country-club-sopranos-american-banks-are-on-a-massive-crime-spree-obama-and-romney-hope-you-wont-notice/#comment-404715&quot;&gt;Tom Self&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, that would be nice... 
- Rob Harrington]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2012/11/04/country-club-sopranos-american-banks-are-on-a-massive-crime-spree-obama-and-romney-hope-you-wont-notice/#comment-404715">Tom Self</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, that would be nice&#8230;<br />
&#8211; Rob Harrington</p>
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		By: Tom Self		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Self]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 17:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s sad that Obama nor Romney are talking about this at least a little bit. And it&#039;s also sad not one executive has been jailed, what a joke. Americans need to stand up and fight back way more than they are currently doing!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad that Obama nor Romney are talking about this at least a little bit. And it&#8217;s also sad not one executive has been jailed, what a joke. Americans need to stand up and fight back way more than they are currently doing!</p>
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		By: PENDINGLAWSUIT		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PENDINGLAWSUIT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 17:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BARRY FAGAN DEFEATS WELLS FARGO ON JUDICIAL NOTICE

Posted By Neil Garfield LIVINGLIES ON OCTOBER 31,2012
 
http://livinglies.wordpress.com/2012/10/31/fagan-defeats-wells-fargo-on-judicial-notice/

Editor&#039;s Comment: Following up with the offensive strategy and the concept of attacking every weak point in the pretender lender&#039;s strategies, Fagan went after Wells Fargo on the seemingly innocuous motion for the Judge to take Judicial notice of several documents.

Besides the obvious fact that Judicial notice is narrowly construed to allow the FACT that a document was RECORDED (and not as proof of the matters asserted in such documents), Fagan took the offensive and essentially argued that Wells was trying to win a non-judicial foreclosure (in court, which is an oxymoron) using proof that could not be accepted in a judicial foreclosure.

His argument and his citations are right on point. The moral of this story is that if you keep the faith and realize that this entire foreclosure mess is just one part of the securitization scam, then you arrive at the inescapable conclusion that the homeowners should win, not just delay the foreclosures. Once you know you should win, it is easier to take the offensive and start thinking about the cases in a different way.

The question is not just &quot;how do I protect my client&quot; but also how do I win this case.&quot;

Read the documents below and you&#039;ll see how Fagan artfully slices up the Wells Motion for Judicial Notice and how the Court concluded correctly that Wells can&#039;t get away with violating the rules of evidence simply by slipping documents in through the back door.

It looks to me like we are turning the corner here. Deny and Discover has been getting a lot of traction. Stopa has surprised pretender lenders with summary judgment granted in favor of the borrowers and Fagan, is picking apart Wells Fargo. A fellow I know recently said to me &quot;if you can make it bleed, you can kill it.&quot; He was referring to foreclosures.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BARRY FAGAN DEFEATS WELLS FARGO ON JUDICIAL NOTICE</p>
<p>Posted By Neil Garfield LIVINGLIES ON OCTOBER 31,2012</p>
<p><a href="http://livinglies.wordpress.com/2012/10/31/fagan-defeats-wells-fargo-on-judicial-notice/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://livinglies.wordpress.com/2012/10/31/fagan-defeats-wells-fargo-on-judicial-notice/</a></p>
<p>Editor&#8217;s Comment: Following up with the offensive strategy and the concept of attacking every weak point in the pretender lender&#8217;s strategies, Fagan went after Wells Fargo on the seemingly innocuous motion for the Judge to take Judicial notice of several documents.</p>
<p>Besides the obvious fact that Judicial notice is narrowly construed to allow the FACT that a document was RECORDED (and not as proof of the matters asserted in such documents), Fagan took the offensive and essentially argued that Wells was trying to win a non-judicial foreclosure (in court, which is an oxymoron) using proof that could not be accepted in a judicial foreclosure.</p>
<p>His argument and his citations are right on point. The moral of this story is that if you keep the faith and realize that this entire foreclosure mess is just one part of the securitization scam, then you arrive at the inescapable conclusion that the homeowners should win, not just delay the foreclosures. Once you know you should win, it is easier to take the offensive and start thinking about the cases in a different way.</p>
<p>The question is not just &#8220;how do I protect my client&#8221; but also how do I win this case.&#8221;</p>
<p>Read the documents below and you&#8217;ll see how Fagan artfully slices up the Wells Motion for Judicial Notice and how the Court concluded correctly that Wells can&#8217;t get away with violating the rules of evidence simply by slipping documents in through the back door.</p>
<p>It looks to me like we are turning the corner here. Deny and Discover has been getting a lot of traction. Stopa has surprised pretender lenders with summary judgment granted in favor of the borrowers and Fagan, is picking apart Wells Fargo. A fellow I know recently said to me &#8220;if you can make it bleed, you can kill it.&#8221; He was referring to foreclosures.</p>
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		By: Fed Up		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2012 17:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has anyone noticed Florida Rep Connie Mack and Senator Bill Nelson also run and hide from  the bank fraud issues?   They do not want to address it either !!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone noticed Florida Rep Connie Mack and Senator Bill Nelson also run and hide from  the bank fraud issues?   They do not want to address it either !!!!!</p>
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