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		By: meeshalin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[meeshalin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2014 14:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We, the homeowners or ex homeowners, we&#039;re all preyed upon. The recession hit, people lost work. The banks saw it all as opportunity to steal the homes of those they lent money to purchase. They made it public they would help homeowners having trouble paying mortgage or who couldn&#039;t pay their mortgage. At that point, whomever asked for help was now on the list to steal from. Now the banks knew who was having mone issues, not only could these people not psy mortgage they wouldn&#039;t be able to pay a lawyer to represent them. The banks couldn&#039;t stop there, they started stealing the homes of people who didn&#039;t ask for help, people who had loans with another bank. The government backed up the banks because they saw it as a way to strip us al the right to own property. Only the rich should own and rent to us. That&#039;s why I rent, I was a homeowner since I was 21. 20 years later, I rent an apartment,  I own nothing. Have no money saved.  I see everything different, not the same as a young adult. No more American dream. Its now the American nightmere.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We, the homeowners or ex homeowners, we&#8217;re all preyed upon. The recession hit, people lost work. The banks saw it all as opportunity to steal the homes of those they lent money to purchase. They made it public they would help homeowners having trouble paying mortgage or who couldn&#8217;t pay their mortgage. At that point, whomever asked for help was now on the list to steal from. Now the banks knew who was having mone issues, not only could these people not psy mortgage they wouldn&#8217;t be able to pay a lawyer to represent them. The banks couldn&#8217;t stop there, they started stealing the homes of people who didn&#8217;t ask for help, people who had loans with another bank. The government backed up the banks because they saw it as a way to strip us al the right to own property. Only the rich should own and rent to us. That&#8217;s why I rent, I was a homeowner since I was 21. 20 years later, I rent an apartment,  I own nothing. Have no money saved.  I see everything different, not the same as a young adult. No more American dream. Its now the American nightmere.</p>
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		By: Mystify		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mystify]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Feb 2014 23:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Best defense is to bankrupt and give it all back to them and let them pay the bills!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best defense is to bankrupt and give it all back to them and let them pay the bills!</p>
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		By: Jack Lee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack Lee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2014 07:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;everyone knows it&#039;s online&quot;. That was the key, responding to an absurd statement with another absurd statement letting all of them know just what you think of them, and blink, they change their mind.

This was also the advice that Jesus gave when dealing with impossibly stubborn people, when they get absurd, beyond all reason, respond in the same way and WHAM they realize what fools they&#039;ve been. To avoid looking more foolish, they rule in your favor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;everyone knows it&#8217;s online&#8221;. That was the key, responding to an absurd statement with another absurd statement letting all of them know just what you think of them, and blink, they change their mind.</p>
<p>This was also the advice that Jesus gave when dealing with impossibly stubborn people, when they get absurd, beyond all reason, respond in the same way and WHAM they realize what fools they&#8217;ve been. To avoid looking more foolish, they rule in your favor.</p>
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		By: Julia Young		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julia Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Feb 2014 01:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2014/01/30/everyone-knows-plaintiff-owns-the-loan-you-can-look-it-up-online/#comment-434118&quot;&gt;caggiano&lt;/a&gt;.

There is little justice in the lending and mortgage business. It is more like the banks are saying JUST US!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2014/01/30/everyone-knows-plaintiff-owns-the-loan-you-can-look-it-up-online/#comment-434118">caggiano</a>.</p>
<p>There is little justice in the lending and mortgage business. It is more like the banks are saying JUST US!</p>
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		By: one of the Victims		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[one of the Victims]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Feb 2014 16:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2014/01/30/everyone-knows-plaintiff-owns-the-loan-you-can-look-it-up-online/#comment-434150&quot;&gt;se7ensnakes&lt;/a&gt;.

We were shafted twice; once by the banking industry, and then the government agencies and investors took advantage of the situation. The reason no criminal charges were sought in this massive mortgage scam implemented by Countrywide, Bank of America and J..P. Morgan Chase is because there is no money to be gained by it except for the attorneys on both sides who will fight as long as there is a billing to be had.  Now the banks are being charged in civil suits and they are paying billions in penalties. But are they compensating the victims who lost their homes through scams and lies?  No there is little or no restitution, practically no modification. I watched B of A write off twice the amount of the mortgage in my case, pay their attorney thousands to support their case and then turn around and foreclose and GIVE my house away for 25% of the value of the $250K they charged off when they could have sold it for much more.  They liquidated it pure and simple. They showed a loss and then charged back $99,000 to me and also showed reconciliation-relocation charges of another $7,000+, which were NOT paid to me. This will be reported to the IRS as income!  
You talk about raping the victim! This is gang rape and there is no defense for the poor who can&#039;t fight.  We have already been taken to the slaughterhouse by our Government and believe me those of you who believe the GOP and their small government claims are the answer just aren&#039;t paying attention. The Republican party is not on the side of the little man or the victim. They are squarely in the Wall Street-banking industry that funds their campaigns. I&#039;ve said it before and will again. We have a Plutocracy already in place. Many of us just think we hold the reins. 
It is all in our minds!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2014/01/30/everyone-knows-plaintiff-owns-the-loan-you-can-look-it-up-online/#comment-434150">se7ensnakes</a>.</p>
<p>We were shafted twice; once by the banking industry, and then the government agencies and investors took advantage of the situation. The reason no criminal charges were sought in this massive mortgage scam implemented by Countrywide, Bank of America and J..P. Morgan Chase is because there is no money to be gained by it except for the attorneys on both sides who will fight as long as there is a billing to be had.  Now the banks are being charged in civil suits and they are paying billions in penalties. But are they compensating the victims who lost their homes through scams and lies?  No there is little or no restitution, practically no modification. I watched B of A write off twice the amount of the mortgage in my case, pay their attorney thousands to support their case and then turn around and foreclose and GIVE my house away for 25% of the value of the $250K they charged off when they could have sold it for much more.  They liquidated it pure and simple. They showed a loss and then charged back $99,000 to me and also showed reconciliation-relocation charges of another $7,000+, which were NOT paid to me. This will be reported to the IRS as income!<br />
You talk about raping the victim! This is gang rape and there is no defense for the poor who can&#8217;t fight.  We have already been taken to the slaughterhouse by our Government and believe me those of you who believe the GOP and their small government claims are the answer just aren&#8217;t paying attention. The Republican party is not on the side of the little man or the victim. They are squarely in the Wall Street-banking industry that funds their campaigns. I&#8217;ve said it before and will again. We have a Plutocracy already in place. Many of us just think we hold the reins.<br />
It is all in our minds!</p>
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		By: se7ensnakes		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2014/01/30/everyone-knows-plaintiff-owns-the-loan-you-can-look-it-up-online/#comment-434150</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[se7ensnakes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Feb 2014 15:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;On Sept 1st, 1894, we will not renew our loans under any consideration. On Sept 1st we will demand our money. We will foreclose and become mortgagees in possession. We can take two-thirds of the farms west of the Mississippi, and thousands of them east of the Mississippi as well, at our own price... Then the farmers will become tenants as in England...&quot; — 1891 American Bankers Association as printed in the Congressional Record of April 29, 1913]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;On Sept 1st, 1894, we will not renew our loans under any consideration. On Sept 1st we will demand our money. We will foreclose and become mortgagees in possession. We can take two-thirds of the farms west of the Mississippi, and thousands of them east of the Mississippi as well, at our own price&#8230; Then the farmers will become tenants as in England&#8230;&#8221; — 1891 American Bankers Association as printed in the Congressional Record of April 29, 1913</p>
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		By: j Alonzo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[j Alonzo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Feb 2014 15:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2014/01/30/everyone-knows-plaintiff-owns-the-loan-you-can-look-it-up-online/#comment-434121&quot;&gt;john c. hacker iii&lt;/a&gt;.

I totally agree. These judges are all a bunch of bank servants and are for the most part as corrupt as Mexican judges. This whole mess is created by the two headed dragon, our two party system that are both equally responsible for the mess. When will the SHEEPLE finally get it, that Democrats and Republicans ARE THE SAME! They have us so busy trying to cheer for one side and in the end they are all servants to the New World Order.
We are The Sheeple!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2014/01/30/everyone-knows-plaintiff-owns-the-loan-you-can-look-it-up-online/#comment-434121">john c. hacker iii</a>.</p>
<p>I totally agree. These judges are all a bunch of bank servants and are for the most part as corrupt as Mexican judges. This whole mess is created by the two headed dragon, our two party system that are both equally responsible for the mess. When will the SHEEPLE finally get it, that Democrats and Republicans ARE THE SAME! They have us so busy trying to cheer for one side and in the end they are all servants to the New World Order.<br />
We are The Sheeple!</p>
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		By: john c. hacker iii		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john c. hacker iii]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2014 23:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[what a shame/what a quagmire/what a slap in the AMERICAN peoples face.  THE AMERICAN DREAM SHATTERED ,and good American ,law abiding people are getting and have been run over by greedy banks, and government, our congress,senate and the president himself,should go through what we have... Homeowners,trying to go to work every day and be left alone.just to own a home and pay their taxes.  but its not enough,for the greed on capitol hill.   Fuck em  and fuck em ALL.    you pieces a shit should all be lined up and tortured,just like us.  And then and only then.  we can start to fight fairly.   and im sure the 4 million homeowners plus would back me up 100%    ya ought be beyond shamed. because you don&#039;t represent me!!  period.   john c. hacker iii]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a shame/what a quagmire/what a slap in the AMERICAN peoples face.  THE AMERICAN DREAM SHATTERED ,and good American ,law abiding people are getting and have been run over by greedy banks, and government, our congress,senate and the president himself,should go through what we have&#8230; Homeowners,trying to go to work every day and be left alone.just to own a home and pay their taxes.  but its not enough,for the greed on capitol hill.   Fuck em  and fuck em ALL.    you pieces a shit should all be lined up and tortured,just like us.  And then and only then.  we can start to fight fairly.   and im sure the 4 million homeowners plus would back me up 100%    ya ought be beyond shamed. because you don&#8217;t represent me!!  period.   john c. hacker iii</p>
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		By: caggiano		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[caggiano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jan 2014 21:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[vary trentend by owner bank morgage co trentend by his brother known for fraud stole alot money and terroised me my family.fraudently sold my home back to them selves vary little to no money wouldnt stop till stole my historical ranch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vary trentend by owner bank morgage co trentend by his brother known for fraud stole alot money and terroised me my family.fraudently sold my home back to them selves vary little to no money wouldnt stop till stole my historical ranch.</p>
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		By: Julia Young		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Julia Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2014 18:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2014/01/30/everyone-knows-plaintiff-owns-the-loan-you-can-look-it-up-online/#comment-434066&quot;&gt;charley rice&lt;/a&gt;.

Good luck finding a lawyer. I had one of the best but his services disappeared because I could  not continue to pay $500 a month to keep his services, which I admit I said I would pay for his work.  After an auto accident reduced my income to almost nothing I had no choice but to stop payment on this plus the $850 to the defendant&#039;s law firm that was to be provided according to court order to the defendant. After completion of 6-8 mod packages, over a 4 year period, they kept coming back for updated packages.  My $850 was going to the lawyer&#039;s trust fund and no interest, taxes, etc. deductible plus the defendant&#039;s attorney was obviously billing his client or mortgage servicer major big bucks for depositions and service plus my payment, while dragging their feet. I went through this over 4 years and no modification was available so I stopped trying. They were never going to modify the loan or prosecute the case, which may or may not still be pending. We had the Court somewhat on our side but it means nothing if the lawyers staoll the case.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2014/01/30/everyone-knows-plaintiff-owns-the-loan-you-can-look-it-up-online/#comment-434066">charley rice</a>.</p>
<p>Good luck finding a lawyer. I had one of the best but his services disappeared because I could  not continue to pay $500 a month to keep his services, which I admit I said I would pay for his work.  After an auto accident reduced my income to almost nothing I had no choice but to stop payment on this plus the $850 to the defendant&#8217;s law firm that was to be provided according to court order to the defendant. After completion of 6-8 mod packages, over a 4 year period, they kept coming back for updated packages.  My $850 was going to the lawyer&#8217;s trust fund and no interest, taxes, etc. deductible plus the defendant&#8217;s attorney was obviously billing his client or mortgage servicer major big bucks for depositions and service plus my payment, while dragging their feet. I went through this over 4 years and no modification was available so I stopped trying. They were never going to modify the loan or prosecute the case, which may or may not still be pending. We had the Court somewhat on our side but it means nothing if the lawyers staoll the case.</p>
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