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	Comments on: U.S. BANK NATIONAL ASSOCIATION vs BARTRAM: The Beginning of the End of The Five Year Statute of Limitations in Florida	</title>
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		By: BYRON EGGERS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BYRON EGGERS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2014 23:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TOTAL BS]]></description>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2014 18:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Total corruption of the court system where they can just change the rules at will and screw over the common people in favor of big money.  Why am I not surprised? These judges should be given a real lesson in punishment when they ruin peoples lives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Total corruption of the court system where they can just change the rules at will and screw over the common people in favor of big money.  Why am I not surprised? These judges should be given a real lesson in punishment when they ruin peoples lives.</p>
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		By: triumphant		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[triumphant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 11:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2014/04/26/u-s-bank-national-association-vs-bartram-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-five-year-statute-of-limitations-in-florida/#comment-438125&quot;&gt;Alec the Ross&lt;/a&gt;.

If the PRINCIPLE and interest, etc., etc. was previously accelerated, then shouldn&#039;t the PRINCIPLE as well as interest, etc., be barred by SOL in any subsequent action, and there could then be no subsequent basis for &quot;default&quot;? I mean, &quot;default&quot; on WHAT? - a time-barred debt of PRINCIPLE? 

The 5th DCA&#039;s unsound reasoning appears to have essentially created a new tolling mechanism; arguably, it would be equally applicable to ALL collection actions on claimed debts based on contracts that are ALSO (like mortgage foreclosures) supposed to be time-limited by statute. Therefore, the 5th DCA has indeed done Florida consumers wrong by gifting ALL debt collectors (based on written contracts) the ability to circumvent the state&#039;s SOL statutes by simply sending out a fresh demand for payment very five years. It is already apparent that &quot;banks&quot; are purporting to &quot;accelerate&quot; the same claimed debt that was previously accelerated by itself or some previous &quot;bank.&quot; And since often times the foreclosure action itself is the &quot;notice of acceleration,&quot; stay tuned for an explosion of foreclosure filings based on what should be stale claims barred by SOL.

SOL is NOT the same as res judicata, which the Supremes had said may not NECESSARILY apply to mortgage foreclosures, but which the 5th DCA reads as &quot;does not apply&quot; in mortgage foreclosures.

Florida&#039;s pro-consumer groups (if they exist at all) - who apparently stand silent on the sidelines throughout the past six years of this foreclosure mess in the judiciary - need to WAKE UP and voice their outrage over this blatant judicial activism by the 5th DCA.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2014/04/26/u-s-bank-national-association-vs-bartram-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-five-year-statute-of-limitations-in-florida/#comment-438125">Alec the Ross</a>.</p>
<p>If the PRINCIPLE and interest, etc., etc. was previously accelerated, then shouldn&#8217;t the PRINCIPLE as well as interest, etc., be barred by SOL in any subsequent action, and there could then be no subsequent basis for &#8220;default&#8221;? I mean, &#8220;default&#8221; on WHAT? &#8211; a time-barred debt of PRINCIPLE? </p>
<p>The 5th DCA&#8217;s unsound reasoning appears to have essentially created a new tolling mechanism; arguably, it would be equally applicable to ALL collection actions on claimed debts based on contracts that are ALSO (like mortgage foreclosures) supposed to be time-limited by statute. Therefore, the 5th DCA has indeed done Florida consumers wrong by gifting ALL debt collectors (based on written contracts) the ability to circumvent the state&#8217;s SOL statutes by simply sending out a fresh demand for payment very five years. It is already apparent that &#8220;banks&#8221; are purporting to &#8220;accelerate&#8221; the same claimed debt that was previously accelerated by itself or some previous &#8220;bank.&#8221; And since often times the foreclosure action itself is the &#8220;notice of acceleration,&#8221; stay tuned for an explosion of foreclosure filings based on what should be stale claims barred by SOL.</p>
<p>SOL is NOT the same as res judicata, which the Supremes had said may not NECESSARILY apply to mortgage foreclosures, but which the 5th DCA reads as &#8220;does not apply&#8221; in mortgage foreclosures.</p>
<p>Florida&#8217;s pro-consumer groups (if they exist at all) &#8211; who apparently stand silent on the sidelines throughout the past six years of this foreclosure mess in the judiciary &#8211; need to WAKE UP and voice their outrage over this blatant judicial activism by the 5th DCA.</p>
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		By: Mark Grayson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Grayson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 11:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2014/04/26/u-s-bank-national-association-vs-bartram-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-five-year-statute-of-limitations-in-florida/#comment-438510&quot;&gt;Mark Grayson&lt;/a&gt;.

For this decision to hold any merit the court would have to require the bank to file a formal &#039;rescission of acceleration&#039; with the court and show a &#039;willingness&#039; to once again accept monthly payments. Since the acceleration is usually &#039;announced&#039; via Lis Pendens ....and the bank is no longer willing to accept anything less than &#039;payment in full&#039; it is only fair for the homeowner to expect a formal rescission by way of a court filing in order to stop the Statute of Limitations. Furthermore the bank must be required to show a willingness to once again accept individual monthly payments and apply them to the home owner&#039;s intended target...not to previously missed payments, past penalties and interest. Fair is fair. Furthermore this twisting of the Statute should only apply from this point forward. It should not apply to any case that has already exceeded the Statute of Limitations. Banks should not be able to hold people hostage indefinitely. 30 years is a long time and people&#039;s circumstances change. Banks should not be able to wait for years or decades until it is &#039;convenient for them&#039; to walk in and take possession or avoid liability and maintenance costs by letting properties sit empty for years being vandalized and bringing down neighboring property values in the name of the defaulting homeowner. They should not be allowed to loan money on more properties than they can &#039;carry&#039; in case of default and 5 years is not an unreasonable amount of time to be expected to conclude a foreclosure. Where the heck are the decent defense attorneys?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2014/04/26/u-s-bank-national-association-vs-bartram-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-five-year-statute-of-limitations-in-florida/#comment-438510">Mark Grayson</a>.</p>
<p>For this decision to hold any merit the court would have to require the bank to file a formal &#8216;rescission of acceleration&#8217; with the court and show a &#8216;willingness&#8217; to once again accept monthly payments. Since the acceleration is usually &#8216;announced&#8217; via Lis Pendens &#8230;.and the bank is no longer willing to accept anything less than &#8216;payment in full&#8217; it is only fair for the homeowner to expect a formal rescission by way of a court filing in order to stop the Statute of Limitations. Furthermore the bank must be required to show a willingness to once again accept individual monthly payments and apply them to the home owner&#8217;s intended target&#8230;not to previously missed payments, past penalties and interest. Fair is fair. Furthermore this twisting of the Statute should only apply from this point forward. It should not apply to any case that has already exceeded the Statute of Limitations. Banks should not be able to hold people hostage indefinitely. 30 years is a long time and people&#8217;s circumstances change. Banks should not be able to wait for years or decades until it is &#8216;convenient for them&#8217; to walk in and take possession or avoid liability and maintenance costs by letting properties sit empty for years being vandalized and bringing down neighboring property values in the name of the defaulting homeowner. They should not be allowed to loan money on more properties than they can &#8216;carry&#8217; in case of default and 5 years is not an unreasonable amount of time to be expected to conclude a foreclosure. Where the heck are the decent defense attorneys?</p>
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		By: Mark Grayson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Grayson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 20:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2014/04/26/u-s-bank-national-association-vs-bartram-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-five-year-statute-of-limitations-in-florida/#comment-438526&quot;&gt;Bobbi Swann&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes. Chapter 7. Filed March 18, 2008. Discharged June 25, 2008. For the first couple of years I would call the bank every month and ask them to foreclose. I wanted the house out of my name so I could get a fresh start. They never once told me there was a case in litigation. I had no idea how it worked. I figured the bank would march right down to the courthouse and walk out with the title 15 minutes later. I didn&#039;t realize the house would sit in my name for the next 7 years. Can you imagine the condition of the house after sitting empty and being vandalized by the local neighborhood kids. I&#039;m so lucky no one was hurt on the property. It is the corner in the neighborhood where the school bus stop 4 times a day. In addition there is a day care across the street. How careless to leave the house unattended and open to vandals, to not keep up the yards and just let it sit in my name so they wouldn&#039;t have any of the liability. Now the Florida court says they have 35 years to come along at their convenience, after they have already accelerated years ago, to walk in anytime they please and take the house back. That&#039;s Communism. I thought we lived in a free country and we&#039;re protected by a judicial system that played by the rules. I do have an attorney, yes. But I don&#039;t have any confidence in him. He&#039;s from Tampa. He sounded good until I gave him his retainer and then he seemed to lose interest quickly. It is his opinion we should wait until &#039;they&#039; make a move. He has a blog but I think it&#039;s just a recruitment tool. Honestly I am beginning to think I should represent myself. I haven&#039;t been able to find an attorney who has a clue as to how all this works with the Statute of Limitations defense. None that have given me the least confidence that we can walk into a courtroom and walk out victorious. To me it seems open and shut. They accelerated my loan nearly 7 years ago. I stepped aside so they could foreclose. I surrendered the house. I did not use the situation for my own gain or benefit. I did not impede them in any way or try to make it difficult. They dropped the ball. I believe it&#039;s because they don&#039;t have the paperwork necessary to foreclose and until they can manufacture it they are between a rock and a hard place. They did try once. David Stern &#039; case is a joke. You can tell the assignments were forged and the allonges was manufactured after the fact. Everything was robo-signed. It was thrown out of court by a very astute judge. In January 2014 I got an acceleration warning from the new servicer giving me 30 days to catch up the loan. It is now May 2. Nothing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2014/04/26/u-s-bank-national-association-vs-bartram-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-five-year-statute-of-limitations-in-florida/#comment-438526">Bobbi Swann</a>.</p>
<p>Yes. Chapter 7. Filed March 18, 2008. Discharged June 25, 2008. For the first couple of years I would call the bank every month and ask them to foreclose. I wanted the house out of my name so I could get a fresh start. They never once told me there was a case in litigation. I had no idea how it worked. I figured the bank would march right down to the courthouse and walk out with the title 15 minutes later. I didn&#8217;t realize the house would sit in my name for the next 7 years. Can you imagine the condition of the house after sitting empty and being vandalized by the local neighborhood kids. I&#8217;m so lucky no one was hurt on the property. It is the corner in the neighborhood where the school bus stop 4 times a day. In addition there is a day care across the street. How careless to leave the house unattended and open to vandals, to not keep up the yards and just let it sit in my name so they wouldn&#8217;t have any of the liability. Now the Florida court says they have 35 years to come along at their convenience, after they have already accelerated years ago, to walk in anytime they please and take the house back. That&#8217;s Communism. I thought we lived in a free country and we&#8217;re protected by a judicial system that played by the rules. I do have an attorney, yes. But I don&#8217;t have any confidence in him. He&#8217;s from Tampa. He sounded good until I gave him his retainer and then he seemed to lose interest quickly. It is his opinion we should wait until &#8216;they&#8217; make a move. He has a blog but I think it&#8217;s just a recruitment tool. Honestly I am beginning to think I should represent myself. I haven&#8217;t been able to find an attorney who has a clue as to how all this works with the Statute of Limitations defense. None that have given me the least confidence that we can walk into a courtroom and walk out victorious. To me it seems open and shut. They accelerated my loan nearly 7 years ago. I stepped aside so they could foreclose. I surrendered the house. I did not use the situation for my own gain or benefit. I did not impede them in any way or try to make it difficult. They dropped the ball. I believe it&#8217;s because they don&#8217;t have the paperwork necessary to foreclose and until they can manufacture it they are between a rock and a hard place. They did try once. David Stern &#8216; case is a joke. You can tell the assignments were forged and the allonges was manufactured after the fact. Everything was robo-signed. It was thrown out of court by a very astute judge. In January 2014 I got an acceleration warning from the new servicer giving me 30 days to catch up the loan. It is now May 2. Nothing.</p>
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		By: Bobbi Swann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobbi Swann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 19:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2014/04/26/u-s-bank-national-association-vs-bartram-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-five-year-statute-of-limitations-in-florida/#comment-438510&quot;&gt;Mark Grayson&lt;/a&gt;.

ALL states regardless if judicial or non-judicial, must have a mortgage or Deed of Trust on public records in order to foreclose.  At the purchase of the home from the family member was it an actual purchase using a lender or was it a cash sale or was it just a Deed filed?  How do you know there wasn&#039;t already a mortgage outstanding on the property?  If there was and it was not paid off at the Deed transfer it would still be a valid debt, regardless of who takes title.  That&#039;s why you always have a title company or an attorney issue title insurance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2014/04/26/u-s-bank-national-association-vs-bartram-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-five-year-statute-of-limitations-in-florida/#comment-438510">Mark Grayson</a>.</p>
<p>ALL states regardless if judicial or non-judicial, must have a mortgage or Deed of Trust on public records in order to foreclose.  At the purchase of the home from the family member was it an actual purchase using a lender or was it a cash sale or was it just a Deed filed?  How do you know there wasn&#8217;t already a mortgage outstanding on the property?  If there was and it was not paid off at the Deed transfer it would still be a valid debt, regardless of who takes title.  That&#8217;s why you always have a title company or an attorney issue title insurance.</p>
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		By: Bobbi Swann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bobbi Swann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 19:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2014/04/26/u-s-bank-national-association-vs-bartram-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-five-year-statute-of-limitations-in-florida/#comment-438510&quot;&gt;Mark Grayson&lt;/a&gt;.

Mark - OMG!  Please tell me that you have an attorney representing you!  If you wiped out the mortgage in the BK you must have filed a Chapter 7 to include the home and that would be the end of it.  They would have filed for foreclosure and taken the home.  Because of the BK you would not be held responsible for the mortgage or payments or anything once the BK was discharged.  Are you telling me that they have not filed the foreclosure action?  You should be consulting an attorney (and not the BK attorney).  Your Trustee in the BK should be held accountable as well.  What state are you in?  This is unbelievable that this is happening to you....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2014/04/26/u-s-bank-national-association-vs-bartram-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-five-year-statute-of-limitations-in-florida/#comment-438510">Mark Grayson</a>.</p>
<p>Mark &#8211; OMG!  Please tell me that you have an attorney representing you!  If you wiped out the mortgage in the BK you must have filed a Chapter 7 to include the home and that would be the end of it.  They would have filed for foreclosure and taken the home.  Because of the BK you would not be held responsible for the mortgage or payments or anything once the BK was discharged.  Are you telling me that they have not filed the foreclosure action?  You should be consulting an attorney (and not the BK attorney).  Your Trustee in the BK should be held accountable as well.  What state are you in?  This is unbelievable that this is happening to you&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Mark Grayson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Grayson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 17:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My loan was accelerated in October 2007. There was a Stern case that was full of forged documents, mysterious allonges, and bogus notaries. It was thrown out in 2010. Yada, yada, yada. I was 125,000 under water within a year of buying my house in 2005. It was obviously over appraised by the bank. A common practice back then. A health crisis put me behind in my mortgage payments. Countrywide was unwilling to negotiate...period. Anyone with a mortgage knows that once you get behind the bank will no longer accept anything less than all arrears paid with penalties and interest to bring the loan current. Monthly payments are no longer an option. Once the loan is &#039;accelerated&#039; the bank is demanding payment in full. They have &#039;matured&#039; the loan. In my case this was done with a Lis Pendens in a court of law. By their own hand they have chosen to thrown out the payment schedule and demand all payments due...immediately. It is a giant red flag that they are no longer willing to accept monthly payments. What could be more clear???? Re accelerating a loan for a missed payment at this point would be redundant. The loan has already been accelerated and unless the mortgage company files a &#039;rescission of acceleration&#039; with the court then it would seem to me the 5 year statute of limitations should apply. Otherwise what is the point of the acceleration clause in the first place? And if the bank is no longer willing to accept monthly payments it seems ludicrous they can penalize you for not making one. In my case I filed bankruptcy nearly 6 years ago wiping out my mortgage obligation. Are they going to reaccelerate the loan because I have missed payments since the discharge of the BK? I was forced to move back into the house after vacating it because the city of Sarasota placed a lien against me for having to send a crew out to clean it up. When I stepped back into it after 5 years it had been vandalized, windows broken, people partying inside, mold, dead bugs and animals. It was a mess. And there is a school bus stop on the corner in my yard. I was horrified when I drove by and saw about 20 school kids parked on the lawn and playing tag in the yard of the vacant house...I&#039;m sure going inside to smoke and do who knows what. I felt I had no choice but to take back possession. I have never once stood in their way or tried to impede their foreclosure. On the contrary...I was calling them every month asking them to foreclose already. I wanted to start fresh. I offered several times to sign a deed-in-lieu...no success. Bankruptcy is traumatic enough, being hounded and harassed 6 years later is unforgiveable. To have to take back possession of a house you had no choice but to walk away from years ago and see your delapitated dreams, rubs salt in your wounds. I&#039;ve been back in the house nearly 2 years now. It&#039;s very stressful. Last July I dropped dead from a cardiac arrest. I was 57. I was in intensive care for a week...In a coma for several days. I feel the stress of this has taken its toll. I feel the bank is at least partly to blame. This should have been resolved years ago. Still I wait for the sheriff to come knocking on my door, to come home and find the locks have been changed. Still I get harassing letters from the bank threatening to foreclose my &#039;loan&#039;. It will never end.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My loan was accelerated in October 2007. There was a Stern case that was full of forged documents, mysterious allonges, and bogus notaries. It was thrown out in 2010. Yada, yada, yada. I was 125,000 under water within a year of buying my house in 2005. It was obviously over appraised by the bank. A common practice back then. A health crisis put me behind in my mortgage payments. Countrywide was unwilling to negotiate&#8230;period. Anyone with a mortgage knows that once you get behind the bank will no longer accept anything less than all arrears paid with penalties and interest to bring the loan current. Monthly payments are no longer an option. Once the loan is &#8216;accelerated&#8217; the bank is demanding payment in full. They have &#8216;matured&#8217; the loan. In my case this was done with a Lis Pendens in a court of law. By their own hand they have chosen to thrown out the payment schedule and demand all payments due&#8230;immediately. It is a giant red flag that they are no longer willing to accept monthly payments. What could be more clear???? Re accelerating a loan for a missed payment at this point would be redundant. The loan has already been accelerated and unless the mortgage company files a &#8216;rescission of acceleration&#8217; with the court then it would seem to me the 5 year statute of limitations should apply. Otherwise what is the point of the acceleration clause in the first place? And if the bank is no longer willing to accept monthly payments it seems ludicrous they can penalize you for not making one. In my case I filed bankruptcy nearly 6 years ago wiping out my mortgage obligation. Are they going to reaccelerate the loan because I have missed payments since the discharge of the BK? I was forced to move back into the house after vacating it because the city of Sarasota placed a lien against me for having to send a crew out to clean it up. When I stepped back into it after 5 years it had been vandalized, windows broken, people partying inside, mold, dead bugs and animals. It was a mess. And there is a school bus stop on the corner in my yard. I was horrified when I drove by and saw about 20 school kids parked on the lawn and playing tag in the yard of the vacant house&#8230;I&#8217;m sure going inside to smoke and do who knows what. I felt I had no choice but to take back possession. I have never once stood in their way or tried to impede their foreclosure. On the contrary&#8230;I was calling them every month asking them to foreclose already. I wanted to start fresh. I offered several times to sign a deed-in-lieu&#8230;no success. Bankruptcy is traumatic enough, being hounded and harassed 6 years later is unforgiveable. To have to take back possession of a house you had no choice but to walk away from years ago and see your delapitated dreams, rubs salt in your wounds. I&#8217;ve been back in the house nearly 2 years now. It&#8217;s very stressful. Last July I dropped dead from a cardiac arrest. I was 57. I was in intensive care for a week&#8230;In a coma for several days. I feel the stress of this has taken its toll. I feel the bank is at least partly to blame. This should have been resolved years ago. Still I wait for the sheriff to come knocking on my door, to come home and find the locks have been changed. Still I get harassing letters from the bank threatening to foreclose my &#8216;loan&#8217;. It will never end.</p>
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		By: 4closureFraud		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2014/04/26/u-s-bank-national-association-vs-bartram-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-five-year-statute-of-limitations-in-florida/#comment-438263</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 02:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2014/04/26/u-s-bank-national-association-vs-bartram-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-five-year-statute-of-limitations-in-florida/#comment-438125&quot;&gt;Alec the Ross&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly. Wait until unsecured creditors realize this. Any past due debt will be collectable forever as long as they send out a monthly statement claiming a new payment is due.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2014/04/26/u-s-bank-national-association-vs-bartram-the-beginning-of-the-end-of-the-five-year-statute-of-limitations-in-florida/#comment-438125">Alec the Ross</a>.</p>
<p>Exactly. Wait until unsecured creditors realize this. Any past due debt will be collectable forever as long as they send out a monthly statement claiming a new payment is due.</p>
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		By: Alec the Ross		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2014 13:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What happens if you have a promissory note that that says it is due upon demand from the lender? The lender sends you a notice demanding payment, but doesn&#039;t file suit for 7 years later. According to this court&#039;s opinion, the lender can send you a new demand letter 7 years later and successfully sue you. If you raise the defense of statue of limitations, the lender can reply that he cancelled, in his own mind, the previous demand letter he sent you 7 years ago so that he is now good to go to sue you 7 years later. If a bank sends you an acceleration letter, that is when the statue of limitations should start running because that is when the bank decided the loan matured.. A lawsuit is simply to enforce the previously declared acceleration. Otherwise, it looks like a bank can constantly cancel its previously declared accelerations to never have the statue of limitations run until the last payment was &quot;ordinarily&quot; due. Only if new payments are made after the original acceleration occurred should toll the statue of limitations ......indeed, Florida Statue specifically provides that new payments toll the running of the statue of limitations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happens if you have a promissory note that that says it is due upon demand from the lender? The lender sends you a notice demanding payment, but doesn&#8217;t file suit for 7 years later. According to this court&#8217;s opinion, the lender can send you a new demand letter 7 years later and successfully sue you. If you raise the defense of statue of limitations, the lender can reply that he cancelled, in his own mind, the previous demand letter he sent you 7 years ago so that he is now good to go to sue you 7 years later. If a bank sends you an acceleration letter, that is when the statue of limitations should start running because that is when the bank decided the loan matured.. A lawsuit is simply to enforce the previously declared acceleration. Otherwise, it looks like a bank can constantly cancel its previously declared accelerations to never have the statue of limitations run until the last payment was &#8220;ordinarily&#8221; due. Only if new payments are made after the original acceleration occurred should toll the statue of limitations &#8230;&#8230;indeed, Florida Statue specifically provides that new payments toll the running of the statue of limitations.</p>
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