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	Comments on: FORECLOSURE MILL FIGHT!!! Shapiro &#038; Fishman v. David J. Stern = Richman Greer v. Tew Cardenas	</title>
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		By: PJ		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2010/09/13/foreclosure-mill-fight-shapiro-amp-fishman-v-david-j-stern-richman-greer-v-tew-cardenas/#comment-5002</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 01:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No doubt that James, Lisa and the host of this blog are far more swifter then I. But do find it rather weird that depositions are taken in CA and CL. DJSP just announced in there &quot;investor call&quot;  that they would be moving  into the &quot;TITLE&quot; business in CA, and recent land acquisitions for the &quot;Gerald M. Shapiro&quot; TRUST&quot; has been flipping land in very interesting  ways in CL, while defaulting on CMSB investments in IL... it is interesting to me that this all happened prior to the IPO of DJSP in February... March, April...  is when the Gerald M. Shapiro Trust started flipping properties with &quot; neighbor&quot;... in Steam Boat Springs... look for the connections within these property deals, court reporters and title companies in both CA &#038; CL. 

With that, this is quite interesting and James, they are not &quot;major law firm&#039;s&quot; they have been welped and feed their entire careers on the teet of the taxpayers ... they are financed  by you and every other hard working TAXPAYER who is just hanging on. Now as Americans let&#039;s  FIOA the depositions of theses two FORECLOSURE BARONS!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt that James, Lisa and the host of this blog are far more swifter then I. But do find it rather weird that depositions are taken in CA and CL. DJSP just announced in there &#8220;investor call&#8221;  that they would be moving  into the &#8220;TITLE&#8221; business in CA, and recent land acquisitions for the &#8220;Gerald M. Shapiro&#8221; TRUST&#8221; has been flipping land in very interesting  ways in CL, while defaulting on CMSB investments in IL&#8230; it is interesting to me that this all happened prior to the IPO of DJSP in February&#8230; March, April&#8230;  is when the Gerald M. Shapiro Trust started flipping properties with &#8221; neighbor&#8221;&#8230; in Steam Boat Springs&#8230; look for the connections within these property deals, court reporters and title companies in both CA &amp; CL. </p>
<p>With that, this is quite interesting and James, they are not &#8220;major law firm&#8217;s&#8221; they have been welped and feed their entire careers on the teet of the taxpayers &#8230; they are financed  by you and every other hard working TAXPAYER who is just hanging on. Now as Americans let&#8217;s  FIOA the depositions of theses two FORECLOSURE BARONS!</p>
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		By: James M		</title>
		<link>https://4closurefraud.org/2010/09/13/foreclosure-mill-fight-shapiro-amp-fishman-v-david-j-stern-richman-greer-v-tew-cardenas/#comment-5000</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 23:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2010/09/13/foreclosure-mill-fight-shapiro-amp-fishman-v-david-j-stern-richman-greer-v-tew-cardenas/#comment-4989&quot;&gt;ForeclosureHamlet&lt;/a&gt;.

On further reading, including he complaint at the bottom, I think, since so much runs through American Home Mortgage Service books, and they are one of the entities who actually hire the law firms on behalf of the alleged note holders....  Yes, the depo would be interesting, but it is probably more about the claim to fees and files, although the documents requested would be fascinating.  Another case where reading the depo is probably less interesting than examining the exhibits for ones self.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2010/09/13/foreclosure-mill-fight-shapiro-amp-fishman-v-david-j-stern-richman-greer-v-tew-cardenas/#comment-4989">ForeclosureHamlet</a>.</p>
<p>On further reading, including he complaint at the bottom, I think, since so much runs through American Home Mortgage Service books, and they are one of the entities who actually hire the law firms on behalf of the alleged note holders&#8230;.  Yes, the depo would be interesting, but it is probably more about the claim to fees and files, although the documents requested would be fascinating.  Another case where reading the depo is probably less interesting than examining the exhibits for ones self.</p>
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		By: James M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://4closurefraud.org/2010/09/13/foreclosure-mill-fight-shapiro-amp-fishman-v-david-j-stern-richman-greer-v-tew-cardenas/#comment-4992&quot;&gt;James M&lt;/a&gt;.

OK, now I have read a good bit of it.  

ALL S&#038;F and Stern documents and communication with Scott Barns, LPS, SLS etc.  
WOW would that be a treasure trove !!

Wow, you are right, these are some very heavy weight law firms having a slugging match. There is no way this would come to trial. To many skeletons on both sides, and to much real money at risk.  

What would you give to be a fly on the wall at Show and Tell, (mediation)  ??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://4closurefraud.org/2010/09/13/foreclosure-mill-fight-shapiro-amp-fishman-v-david-j-stern-richman-greer-v-tew-cardenas/#comment-4992">James M</a>.</p>
<p>OK, now I have read a good bit of it.  </p>
<p>ALL S&amp;F and Stern documents and communication with Scott Barns, LPS, SLS etc.<br />
WOW would that be a treasure trove !!</p>
<p>Wow, you are right, these are some very heavy weight law firms having a slugging match. There is no way this would come to trial. To many skeletons on both sides, and to much real money at risk.  </p>
<p>What would you give to be a fly on the wall at Show and Tell, (mediation)  ??</p>
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		By: James M		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 22:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know.  I live in Broward County so I guess I could look at the file for more clues, but I suspect the depo&#039;s are ether not filed in the file, or only that part of them used is filed.  Moreover such large law firms will have put their best people on covering up the traces of blood, so I suspect any damaging admission in the file has a protective order for that document or possibly the entire file. - Still, I wonder how that is implemented if there are electronic copies of the document in the clerks office. 

Discovery request for relevant and admissible evidence or what &quot;may lead&quot; to relevant and admissible evidence.  

Based on the pleadings and motions that are probably not sealed,  and based on the issues raised one could infer that reading the depo may lead to evidence that is relevant to your action.  

A court would not grant you access to the sealed record if it was only to impeach the deposed with prior statements made under oath, so I am sure you will be careful to avoid that argument when constructing your motion for the court to grant you access, attorneys eyes only of course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know.  I live in Broward County so I guess I could look at the file for more clues, but I suspect the depo&#8217;s are ether not filed in the file, or only that part of them used is filed.  Moreover such large law firms will have put their best people on covering up the traces of blood, so I suspect any damaging admission in the file has a protective order for that document or possibly the entire file. &#8211; Still, I wonder how that is implemented if there are electronic copies of the document in the clerks office. </p>
<p>Discovery request for relevant and admissible evidence or what &#8220;may lead&#8221; to relevant and admissible evidence.  </p>
<p>Based on the pleadings and motions that are probably not sealed,  and based on the issues raised one could infer that reading the depo may lead to evidence that is relevant to your action.  </p>
<p>A court would not grant you access to the sealed record if it was only to impeach the deposed with prior statements made under oath, so I am sure you will be careful to avoid that argument when constructing your motion for the court to grant you access, attorneys eyes only of course.</p>
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		By: ForeclosureHamlet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ForeclosureHamlet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 21:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LOVE THE VIDEO CLIP!!!

You are a hoot!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOVE THE VIDEO CLIP!!!</p>
<p>You are a hoot!</p>
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