The Market Ticker – Why Is Glenn Beck After The SEIU?
Lerner’s plan is to organize a mass, coordinated “strike” on mortgage, student loan, and local government debt payments–thus bringing the banks to the edge of insolvency and forcing them to renegotiate the terms of the loans. This destabilization and turmoil, Lerner hopes, will also crash the stock market, isolating the banking class and allowing for a transfer of power.
What’s wrong with this?
Look when you take out a mortgage, you sign a contract. The contract says you will pay $X for Y period of time or the bank has the right to come take the house back from you and sell it to someone else.
Ok, so what’s the problem? You decide to do the second – not pay.
Before someone pipes up and says “but that’s immoral!” let me point out that the Mortgage Bankers Association themselves did the same thing. They “jingle mailed” their headquarters building, which they bought and then dropped in value.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-october-7-2010/mortgage-bankers-association-strategic-default
So maybe Beck can explain why there’s something wrong with the SEIU organizing people into a group to do exactly the same thing that the very trade association representing these bankers did?
I have long argued that the proper thing to do is make a decision on whether you should pay or intentionally default based on your personal circumstances, including the potential legal and financial repercussions.
I see no reason to change that recommendation, and that the SEIU is attempting to organize people into a block to do the same thing – make a business decision on whether to pay (or not) their loans – doesn’t seem to be any more troublesome than it was for the Mortgage Bankers Association.
Might this destabilize some banks? It certainly might. Is there anything wrong with that? Not from where I sit. The bank made the decision to loan the money knowing full well you might choose not to pay and if that happened they’d have to seize and resell the house. The simple fact of the matter is that you entered into a contract, and that contract contains an “or else” provision if you don’t pay. Choosing to have the “or else” happen is your right and if the bank didn’t like the odds on that they shouldn’t have made the loan in the first place. The consequence of the decision to lend you money – whether good or bad – is entirely theirs.
This is and should be a business decision, just like it was for the Mortgage Bankers Association.
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HEY IDIOT! Hank , I signed 1 contract ,there are 5 loans opened in My name, 2 of the loan dated 2003 were in my Fathers name , that passed away in 1998 , the wildcat bankers have extracted over $180,000.00 thousand, from me AFTER the loan was satisfied, so unless you know what your talking about, shut your pie hole!
I guess you are either really stupid or just brain washed to death , don’t you get it , We don’t owe what they are claiming we owe, that is the reason for all the FRAUDCLOSURES My loan was satisfied May 2004,… Now do you get it?
You can take off the first two words , I was a little perturbed at Hanks comment , I am over it
I am not saying don’t pay your mortgage,by all means, if u owe, you have too pay ,they have a binding contract, how ever if that contract is forged, its not binding ,that is my fraudclosure deal , I don’t owe anything as a mortgage, My mortgage was satisfied May 2004, i just discovered this after a year long investigation.So of course I am not going to pay on this loan I have no obligation to, no binding contract, I didn’t open this loan , it was opened by the loan officer whom helped me refi my $12,000.00 Mortgage in 2002 , originated in 1987, the grant deed , at the assessors office, as collateral ,it was a forged,it had my Father’s name on it, it was recorded 3 years after my Fathers funeral. Do u understand now ? this is y we have SO MANY FORECLOSURES , ITS NOT THAT WE HAVEN’T PAID WHAT WE OWED, ITS ABOUT ALL THE FRAUD THAT HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE LOAN, THAT WE AREN’T PAYING,
THE ONLY PEOPLE THEY ARE OFFERING LOAN MODWHATAJOKECATIONS TO ARE PEOPLE LIKE ME, THAT DON’T OWE A PENNY, THEY ARE TRYING TO “INTIMIDATE ME” IN TO SIGNING A 30 YEAR CONTRACT, THEY SEND ME 1 EVERY WEEK , “THREATENING ME”, IF I DON’T SIGN IT THEY WILL TAKE MY HOME , THAT I DON’T OWE ANYTHING ON,
I hope I cleared up a lot up, and pulled the wool off the eyes of a lot of people, that have been purposely misinformed, mislead ,FLAT OUT LIED TO ON PURPOSE , deceived , intentionally brainwashed into believing that the foreclosures are the homes of the DEADBEATS of the world, freeloaders, always trying to get their houses for free,
One year ago ,I am so embarrassed to admit this ,thats what I thought too ,and its not your fault, We have been LIED to , mislead , However a year ago thats all I heard, were the story’s that were so far from the truth, like the one from Cook county , Maryellen failed to tell ALL the truth ,she left out the part where $ub$tantial $ amounts $ of money were added to theses loan$, and the family’s were being kicked to the curb ,Maryellen failed to leave that part out PURPOSELY to brain wash us into believing what she wanted us to.
Maryellen left you believing, by not telling the whole story, that the FRAUDCLOSURES COULDN’T BE THE WRONGDOINGS OF THE BANKS.
good call on the first two words clueless…
I agree on the “dont owe what they are claiming we owe, and may i add…”and you might not own what you think you own” because the chain has been broken and the title is clouded…its a classic bankster trick…govern yourself accordingly…
Glen Beck =Lies
Glenn Beck is not against the SEIU because of anything related to their stance on mortgage fraud.
His issues with that public employees union is because of other things. Liberal policies, support of demodrats and public employee pensions, the policies that are bankrupting the states and municipalities nationwide.
In any case, if the KKK came out against mortgage fraud would you be automatically for the KKK? How about the Nazi party? Or NAMBLA? What if NAMBLA held an anti mortgage fraud rally? You’d fall right in line with NAMBLA then.
Single issue politics is usually a waste of time.
Beck rails against the FED, Goldman Sachs, AIG, all those guys. What the SEIU, (AFL-CIO), a labor union does has nothing to do with Beck, you or me. It’s probably bad for both of us. Unless you are a public employee union worker, that is.
@Steevo, Glenn Beck is rallying for NO ONE BUT HIMSELF AND the BANKSTERS/WALL STREET CABAL. Albeit he does call out the Fed and their inflationary,deflationary money printing press of debt and they are evil but only a part of a larger conspiracy. They do have way too much power. Why does’t he call out the PERPS, Paulson, Blankfein, CONgress, the MULTINATIONAL BANKSTERS AND THE MULTINATIONAL CORPS OR THE WAR MACHINE THAT IS ALSO BANKRUPTING AMERICA? WHY DOESN’T HE CALL OUT GE OR BANK OF AMERICA FOR NOT PAYING A DIME OF INCOME TAX IN AMERICA?. BANK OF AMERICA — USES OVER 115 OFFSHORE TAX HAVENS TO HIDE THEIR PROFITS AND THEY MAKE THE BULK OF THEIR PROFITS IN AMERICA ON FEES. Then they turn around and pay their CEO’s billions in bonuses.THEIR TAX EVASION IS A SLAP IN THE FACE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WE THE PEOPLE WOULD NOT BE FORCED TO PAY FOR THE THEFT OF OUR WEALTH IF THE THIEVES WHO STOLE OUR WEALTH ALSO PAID THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES THERE WOULD BE NO BUDGET DEFICITS IN AMERICA. As far as following hate groups we are NOT STUPID so PLEASE, DO NOT INSULT OUR INTELLIGENCE. Glenn Beck NEVER SPOKE A WORD about the PONZI SCHEME HEIST PERPED BY THE BANKSTERS AND WALL STREET and has never spoken a WORD OF TRUTH ABOUT FORECLOSUREGATE AND IT’S CA– USES. ALL THAT I SEE IS GLENN BECK TRYING TO DIVIDE THE NATION BY PLAYING THE BLAME GAME AND BLAMING THE HOMEOWNERS FOR BUYING HOMES THAT THEY COULD NOT AFFORD.THAT IS PRECISIELY WHAT THE NAZIS DID AFTER THE HOLOCA– USE, THEY BLAMED THE JEWS FOR THEIR OWN MASSACRE BY CALLING THEM COWARDS THAT LET THEIR EXTERMINATION HAPPEN, THEY BLAMED THE VICTIM. WHAT HAPPENED HERE WAS WE WERE SET UP TO FAIL, DEFRAUDED AND THEN ROBBED. IF GLENN BECK CARED, HE WOULD TELL THE PEOPLE THE TRUTH WHICH IS _ NO ONE IS SAFE,_ EVEN IF YOU ARE PAYING YOUR MORTGAGE ON TIME YOU CAN BE THROWN INTO DEFAULT RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSE AND NOT EVEN KNOW IT. THE FBI CONFIRMED TO ME THIS IS TRUE AND I HAVE A FRIEND WHO HAD THIS DONE TO THEM..Just because GLENN BECK TELLS HALF A DOZEN TRUTHS THEN HE SHOULD NOT BE TELLING A HALF A DOZEN LIES OR JUST NOT TALK ABOUT WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON HERE IN AMERICA. FRAUDCLOSUREGATE IS A MASSIVE CONSPIRACY BY A FOREIGN INTEREST HIDING BEHIND THE SCENES AND USING TREASONISTS, TRAITORS INSIDE OF OUR OWN GOVERNMENT TO OVERTHROW AMERICA AND TAKE US OVER WITHOUT EVER FIRING A SHOT. THEY WANT TO BANKRUPT US, OVERTHROW OUR RIGHTS. OUR U.S. CONSTITUTION, OUR LAWS. OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS, OUR WEALTH, OUR NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY IS UNDER ATTACK. THEY WANT TO MAKE AMERICA A BROKE WAR MACHINE, PLUTOCRACY THAT MAKES NOTHING BUT WAR AND ITS PEOPLE ARE NOTHING BUT DEBT SLAVES TO THEM, A FACSIST NEW WORLD ORDER DICTATORSHIP WHO ARE THE U.N./REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE. THIS IS ABOUT OUR RIGHTS AS AMERICANS AND WHO IS BEHIND THE FED AND THE MULTINATIONALS. THEY ARE THE EVIL AND THERE IS ALOT AT STAKE HERE FOR AMERICA. GOD BLESS AMERICA. LAND THAT I LOVE.
blankfein is doing Gods work and glenn is a profit, i mean prophet…alot of true miss guided anger is stuck in the I vent…..
@pick you poison. I have equal disdain for Blankfein and Beck. They have both robbed the American people. Glenn Beck is just as sneaky and evil and the problem is many poor people do not even realize the damage he is doing by telling the people only what the NEW WORLD ORDER wants him to tell them. My anger is guided at ALL OF THE LIARS AND THE FRAUDS. Glenn Beck has done NOTHING GOOD FOR AMERICA. All he has done is make himself quite wealthy and manged to mislead alot of people into voting the REPUBLICONS back into office. My hope is many more come to realize Glenn Beck IS A FRAUD. THAT KNOWLEDGE WILL SAVE ALOT OF LIVES. .You should really check out THE DYLAN RATIGAN SHOW ON MSNBC AT 3 p.m. cst every week day. DYLAN has been rallying for THE PEOPLE in FRAUDCLOSURE for many months. DYLAN RATIGAN CALLS OUT WALL STREET AND THE BANKS ALL OF THE TIME FOR THEIR CRIMES AND DEMANDS TO KNOW WHY NONE OF THEM ARE IN JAIL. GLENN BECK IS A TOOL.
Steevo, Before you rally on Glenn Beck, try and think outside of the box for a moment.. Has he spoken about the NEW WORLD ORDER merger with WALL STREET and how the NYSE is now called the NYSE/EURONEXT? How about the G7 and their SNEAKY MERGER OF THE WORLD CURRENCIES UNDER THE GUISE OF SAVING JAPAN’S ECONOMY? There is alot more to this then Glenn Beck is willing to tell. I do not watch Glenn Beck daily as you probably do. I only check now and then to see what half truths he is spewing to dumb down society. Did he speak about Obama declaring war on another country from another country without the approval of CONgress and without ever addressing the American People? Glenn Beck only tells part of the story and that creates confusion for the people who hold him in such high regard. GLENN BECK DOES NOT CONNECT THE DOTS. This is about saving the NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY OF AMERICA and how we can UNITE as a PEOPLE, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE SO THERE CAN BE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.. THE GIANT PONZI SCHEME HEIST IS THE VEHICLE THEY — USED TO TRY TO DESTROY AND BANKRUPT AMERICA BY CREATING A HOUSING BUBBLE, COLLAPSING THE ECONOMY AND THEN STEALING OUR WEALTH AND OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS/ HOMES/BUSINESSES LIVELIHOOD, ETC.. THE PONZI SCHEME IS THE REASON WE ARE ALL HERE AT THIS PLACE IN HISTORY AND THE WHOLE TRUTH, NOT BITS AND PIECES OF THE STORY NEED TO BE TOLD TO THE WHOLE COUNTRY. WE WERE ALL SET UP TO FAIL, DEFRAUDED AND ROBBED AND NO ONE IS SAFE. FORECLOSUREGATE IS THE MASSIVE COVER’UP FOR ALL OF THE TREASON AND FRAUD. THE PONZI SCHEME WHICH CA– USED THE INTENTIONAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE IN AMERICA.
I Vent,
First, your cap lock is stuck. You should check that.
Next, learn to write in paragraph form.
Make sentences.
If you want to be taken seriously and join in this discussion that is necessary.
So work on that.
I saw Glenn Beck on tv last night. He sounded like he wasn’t a fan of the fed or any of those other organizations you mentioned. Based on what I saw him say and what I could glean from you I suspect you are in agreement, mostly.
Maybe you should see if that’s true. It seems true to me.
Does that blow your mind?
How many times have you watched his TV show?
STEEVO, I KNOW YOUR TYPE WOULD TRY TO — USE THE ALL CAPS AND OTHER IRRELEVANT THINGS AS AN EXC– USE TO TRY AND WIN AN ARGUMENT THAT YOU KNOW YOU CANNOT POSSIBLY WIN BECA– USE YOU KNOW YOU ARE _W_R_O_N_G_ SO YOU TRY TO DISCREDIT THE WINNER OF THE ARGUMENT TO MAKE YOURSELF LOOK SMARTER BUT ALL YOU LOOK LIKE IS A _SORE LOSER_ . YOU AND PICK YOUR POISON ARE _TOOLS, _JUST LIKE YOUR HERO GLENN BECK. AND YOU ARE A DAY LATE AND A DOLLAR SHORT JUST LIKE GLENN THE NAZI. NOW WHY DONT YOU GO AND PUT THAT IN PARAGRAPH FORM.
i agree Steevo, i vent is speaking alot of truth but is just confused about were to rail it and who to blame for it…oh i showed up at a moveon.org rally recently and didnt fall in line…as matter of fact i think ivent was there…because if another person said beck was the problem, i was going to run to my union stewart…we have serious problems in america…
*Lots* of people are politically confused.
Single issue politics is nearly always a waste of time. It makes no sense supporting a candidate or issue you agree with on one thing if you don’t agree with 17 other issues. You can’t get what you want that way.
I am all about getting the most good I can. Trade off the unimportant to for what is *really* important to me.
In any case, some people are new at forum posts. I am NOT new.
Let me just point all of you to the paper by ESR entitled “How to ask questions the smart way”. Check that out in google.
Typing long run on sentences in all caps that *no one* will take the time to read is no way to make your point.
Railing about nonsensical points where it is evident you have not done the reading and thinking necessary to actually make an intelligent argument for your position is a waste of time.
So read, reflect, and give me a reason to think anything you wrote is worth my time to read. I Vent is just venting.
Make your case, change minds. That’s how you get things accomplished. It’s how forums like this work. Don’t be a part of the background noise.
@Steevo, I have never stated that Glenn Beck was the problem nor is he the solution to the problems. Sadly some are completely mislead and only told half truths. Confusion can lead to division. We do not need division nor diversion from what is really at stake for We The People. I do not need a lesson in the ways in which I choose to express my viewpoints from a Glenn Beck fanatic such as yourself. Myself and others have been doing just fine here without critiques from the Glenn Beck fan club. .Remember what Confusious say: Man who go to bed with itchy butt, wake up with smelly finger.
really…Were is the proof that beck got 50million from soros? …_PLEASE…Don’t believe everything you read or hear…, both political parties are crooks, except for maybe the libertarians hiding within either like ron paul and dennis K*&*&ich…DIVIDE and CONQUER keeps the real cabal alive and ALL of us sheepel…ALL you poor misguided people probably believe that Blankfein is really doing GODS work too.
Only morons. like yourself paint with a broad brush in their blanket attacks.
@pick your poison: Only Glenn Beck wants the American people to be sheeple. All he does is fear monger and tell people to stock up on gold and food and boo hoo, then he cries. Sorry, but BECK looks as legit as Boehner with all of his cry baby b.s. Ron Paul is a freemason and wants to open up the FED to declare us all bankrupt so the NEW WORLD ORDER can take over our country. What has Glenn Beck done for America except make a ton of money for himself selling all sorts of shit by fear mongering and crying. Sorry but all of the stuff he says is completely wrong. I have never once heard him call out WALL STREET, or PAULSON or BLANKFEIN. Because he is using a lot of very misleading psycho babble. I have never heard him say anything true about FORECLOSUREGATE and for that I believe he is a media trick, and a George Soros puppet. God’s work would be GLENN BECK telling the truth and GLENN BECK LIES ALOT,
The Banksters and most Politicians sold their souls to the Devil, my worry is that THEY have divided us so much that WE will not beable to stand together to fight against the new world order, tyranny, and the bought and paid for congress…I really dont believe that you ever really listen to beck, you are just using the talking points from the left…I could be wrong..I have liberal and conservative friends and that is the case with ALL of them…i vent, beck always calls out the fed which is wall street,paulson and blankfein…I grew up a chicago dem then for a short time became a repub,now am a discerning independent…you made a comment that beck got 50 million from soros and I made a comment that beck calls out the wall street fat banksters…here is some of my proof, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3sqMqNFCb4 where is yours? can anyone else defend I vent or myself?
@pick your poison: I am also an Independant. I believe the two party system is completely broken and completely corrupted. I do not believe we “elect” anyone. I believe voting is a rigged game. If you are from Chicago, as I have lived here all of my life you know all about the Cook County democratic machine. We have had a Democratic mayor for the last 80 years in Cook County. RAMPANT CORRUPTION by both political parties put America here. To me personally, Glenn Beck really showed his TRUE COLORS when he said the reason for this economic collapse was because people bought homes they could not afford. Has BECK EVER DISCUSSED THE PONZI SCHEME? THE REAL REASON WE ARE HERE. THE INTENTIONAL MANUFACTURED ECONOMIC COLLAPSE. Glenn Beck throws alot of darts but always seems to very strategically miss the mark. As far as proof of the 50 million Beck recieved from Soros and his weekly meetings with him you will have to do your own research on that. I found this information when I WAS NOT looking for it. The truth is out there. The truth will set us free. The people have to unify and organize via the internet on Twitter, Facebook or You Tube. WE THE PEOPLE HAVE TO STOP DRINKING THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA’S KOOL-AID. IT IS VERY DECEPTIVE NEW WORLD ORDER PROPAGANDA. An OPEN MIND is a very valuable tool. WE THE PEOPLE NEED TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX. One very valuable thing that I have discovered is if it SOUNDS IMPOSSIBLE TO BELIEVE, YOU ARE PROBABLY ON THE RIGHT TRACK. REMEMBER IN ORDER TO THINK LIKE THEY THINK YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER BLACK IS WHITE. TAKE NOTHING AT FACE VALUE BECA– USE NOTHING AND NO ONE IS REALLY WHO OR WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE IN THIS GOVERNMENT MACHINE OF RAMPANT CORRUPTION. THEY ALL LIE AND DECEIVE AND THE NEWS MEDIA IN THIS COUNTRY IS FOR THE MOST PART ALL IN ON THE COVER-UP. THE MULTINATIONALS HAVE HIJACKED AMERICA AND HAVE INFILTRATED AND CORRUPTED EVERYTHING AND NOW THEY WANT TO MAKE US BELIEVE LIES ARE THE TRUTH AND THE CRIMINALS ARE NOW SAINTS. THEY WANT US TO THINK OUR U.S. CONSTITUTION PROTECTS THE CRIMINALS RIGHTS AND NOT OURS AND THE LAWS WERE WRITTEN TO PROTECT THE CRIMINALS, NOT THE VICTIMS. THESE ARE PERILOUS TIMES IN AMERICA. VERIFIYING THE TRUTH IS ALOT OF TIMES NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE SO THEN WE HAVE TO CONNECT THE DOTS. NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY WILL PREVAIL. EVIL EMPIRES ALWAYS FAIL AND THE GOD GIVEN FREE WILL OF THE PEOPLE ALWAYS PREVAILS.
wrong i vent, sorry, right about the cabal and alot of other things but raising cain with the wrong beck…and so what if he makes alot of money…anyway were is the 50million?winning…lol
i am and out of the box thinker and a former cook countyresident. chitown, like other progressive large cities are the most corrupt on the planet and carry the largest debts…why didnt we do a no fly zone in chicago years ago, gees, mommar was only in power for 42 years …anyway you can lead a horse to water or to vote early vote often but some still stop for the kool-aid along the way…were’s the 50million…? I heard about that same 50milliona few months ago from some guy raising money for la rouche…but still havent found any truth to it…enlighten me…
@pick your poison: Ask Glenn Beck what he did with the 50 million. The truth is out. It is up to each of us to draw our own conclusions about what is truth and what are lies. You can find the truth if you just do a little digging. It is not up to me to find out the truth for you. I think Beck is a scam artist, a media trick. a New World Order mouthpiece. The mainstream media is for the most part a Government propaganda machine. As far as Crook County, Illinois, do you really think I dont know about the rampant corruption? A glance at the GINORMOUS property tax bills and one look at the terrible condition of our roads along with all of the missing policemen and fireman’s pension money tells us all we need to know. Daley stated a few months ago that Cook County will be recieving a 155 billion dollar property tax increase by 2015 to cover for all of the MISSING pension money. No explanation for where all of the money went.? Exactly, it was STOLEN by the BANKSTER/ WALL STREET CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE. The policemen, judges, firemens, CONgress, pensions were all heavily invested in the FRAUDULENT MBS’s that the GSE FANNIE/FREDDIE CREATED TO ROB US ALL BLIND WITH. That was an inside job masterminded by none other than traitors who are members of CONgress and are also members of the UN/NEW WORLD ORDER. Lurking behind the curtain is the revived roman empire as they wear many disguises and pretend to be American Institutions and are also the MULTINATIONAL BANKSTER/WALL STREET CABAL/THE FED. They also hold all land in America in fee simple and they are also the SMOM/VATICAN/JESUIT/UN/NEW WORLD ORDER and they hate America Sovereignty and want to bankrupt the USA so they can take over our country without ever firing a shot. They want no less than a one world dictatorship. Check out this interesting link: http//:aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/blackwater-knights-of-malta-in-iraq/
Here is a wager we could all easily SPECULATE ON: I BET GLENN BECK WILL BE CRYING ON HIS SHOW WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK.
OK I VENT…WILL IT BE TEARS OF JOY OR OF SADNESS…..CA– USE IF IT IS JOY THAN IT MAY BE SADNESS FOR US….SADNESS WILL BE JOY FOR US….BIG HUGE DIFFERENCE….FOLLOW WHAT I MEAN? CAN’T TRUST THIS BECK GUY…THOSE TEARS COULD BE FAKE. BUT I HAVE A FEELING YOU KNOW WHY HE WILL CRY……..
i vent… i get it… your really a beck shill…good job
Nothing even…. worth mentioning here!
Glenn Beck is a Mormon. We do not know his contacts in the Salt Lake administration. And more importantly we do not know how much of the 550 Billion dollar trust funds of the Mormon church was invested in these mortgage securities. But we know they own a lot of them or that is what we are told. So, why would Beck speak against something his church stands to profit on or stands to lose its Melchezedec robes over?
Glen Beck is just another greedy jerk. He has made millions on his radio show, made possible many years ago by a Mormon friend hiring him at WFLA in Tampa. He came back from his alcoholism and became a Mormon and that is when his luck, or rather his secret connections began to work for him. Since his recovery and special hiring by a Mormon friend at WFLA, he has been able to buy really nice houses, furniture, cars, and other toys. And he makes big bucks. So why would he not act very Republican and look down his fat nose at people who were defrauded in their mortgages, appraisals, and interest rates? He is so shallow in his mind here and all owing to his religious beliefs which color his sympathy for those who were taken advantage of by deceptive acts in trade and business.
Glen Beck is the example of Republican thinking. That is why he falls in with other Republicans who have the same atittude about the fraudulent mortgage foreclosure mess.
I think Glen Beck is doing nothing but mouthing what his Morman friends attiotudes are back in Salt Lake City. Now, I wonder just how many Mormons are protesting these illegal and fraudulent foreclosures. Just what are the numbers around Salt Lake City and in Utah?
In any case, all of you just turn this idiot off no matter if he does spout some of your conservative feelings.
glenn was a successful radio dj and a drunk, now hes a successful radio dj a reformed drunk…maybe there is a 12 step program for people who hate people who make money…”hi my name is Lit Gant”…
WHERE’S THE NOTE????? THEY DON’T HAVE ANY NOTES. THEY FORGED OUR SIGNATURES ON COPIES OF NOTES, THAT IS WHAT THEY DID, AND THAT IS THEE FORECLOSUREFRAUD TO COVER UP FOR THEE ORIGINATION FRAUD, THE FRAUDULENT INDUCEMENT OF THE LOANS. WHY ELSE WOULD WE HAVE COPIES OF MORTGAGES AND NOTES FROM OUR CLOSING WITH BLANK ENDORSEMENTS? RESCIND OUR LOANS, GIVE BACK THE STOLEN HO– USES AND THE STOLEN MONEY, THE JIG IS UP.
Really? Forged signatures, manufactured loans, fraud? As if people weren’t given money under the notes that they signed?
I love the fact that the moral imperative in this country has now shifted so much that people who sign contracts and change their minds about honoring them are held up as heroes enforcing some natural “right” to ignore their obligations. I find it mind boggling. If any of the commenters on this site loaned $5 grand to their neighbor I doubt they would be rushing to the defense of that neighbor when he decides not to pay them back. Nor do I think they would accept the argument that they, as the lender, assumed “all responsibility” for risk on the loan.
Would any of you people like it if you worked for a week and was told at the end of the week that your employer wasn’t going to pay you because it is their “right” to violate your agreement? Would you make that argument? And if you wouldn’t, why are you sitting here justifying the willful breach of mortgage contracts?
I don’t care that the NMBA walked away from their mortgage–just because they did it doesn’t make it right, or moral, or acceptable. It was BS when the banks took all of our tax dollars to pay for their obligations, and it is BS for people to sit here an argue that tax dollars should be used to pay theirs.
@Hank Denneman: And what EXACTLY is your argument? WHAT ACTUAL MONEY EVER CHANGED HANDS? I NEVER GOT A CHECK TO PAY BY THE BUILDER OF MY HOME. NO PHYSICAL MONEY EVER CHANGED HANDS. THAT IS ILLEGAL. WHY DID THEY FORGE MY SIGNATURE ON THE MORTGAGE AND THE NOTE? WHY DID THEY NOT RECORD A MORTGAGE ON THE TITLE TO MY PROPERTY UNTIL _14 YEARS AFTER I BOUGHT MY HOME_??? WHY DID MY COUNTY RECORDER’S OFFICE TELL ME THE SO CALLED “LENDER” NEVER ASSIGNED A DEBT/LIEN TO MY DEED IN 19 years AND THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS HAS RUN OUT ON THEM??????? IF I WOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS, I WOULD NOT HAVE MADE ONE FRAUDULENTLY INDUCED HO– USE PAYMENT. IF WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN THIS DEAL WAS MADE ON PURE SPECULATION, WE WOULD HAVE NEVER SIGNED THE CONTRACT. WE DID NOT KNOW BECA– USE THEY HID THE ORIGINATION FRAUD WITH A NEW PIN I NEVER EVEN KNEW I HAD A NEW PIN. WTF ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT? EXACTLY, YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW
@Hank Denneman: AND ONE MORE THING THE SAME FRAUDSTERS WHO CREATED THE SCHEME, THEY GOT THE TAX-PAYER FUNDED BAILOUT, THEY WERE THE INVESTORS IN THE FRAUDULENT MBS’s.YOU SHOULD REALLY DO YOU HOMEWORK. THERE IS A FEMA CAMP WAITING FOR DUMBELLS LIKE YOU, UNLESS MAYBE YOU ARE WORKING FOR THEM.
@Hank Demmeman, WHO DIED AND LEFT YOU THE MORAL MAJORITY? THERE IS NOTHING MORAL ABOUT WHAT THEY DID. WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE ONLY VICTIMS HERE, YOU CAN CRAWL UP THEIR ASSES ALL YOU WANT WE THE PEOPLE KNOW THE TRUTH. WE WERE SET UP, DEFRAUDED AND THEN ROBBED BY OUR OWN CONGRESS. PROVE OTHERWISE, I DARE YOU TO PROVE OTHERWISE, IN FACT I DOUBLE DARE YOU TO COME HERE WITH FACTS TO BACK UP ANYTHING YOU SAY. I CAN PROVE THE ENTIRE FRAUD. INCLUDING THE LOAN MOD SCAM. NOW, SHOW ME WHAT YOU HAVE.
@Hank Denneman: They did nothing more than SPECULATE off of our signatures/NOTES up on WALL STREET. THEY MADE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS OFF OF OUR SIGNATURES IN THE PONZI SCHEME HEIST. THEY NEEDED OUR HOMES TO BE PAID FOR TO — USE AS COLLATERAL UP ON WALL STREET. THEY THEN — USED OUR NAMES AND PAID OFF NOTES TO SPECULATE ON EVERY ASPECT OF THE FRAUD THAT THEY ALL INVESTED IN. THEY ALSO FLOUTED OUR PROPERTY RIGHTS BY NOT PROPERLY RECORDING TRANSACTIONS MADE IN OUR NAMES, THAT WAS INTENTIONAL TO COVER UP WHO THE CULPRITS WERE WHO MADE TRILLIONS OFF OR OUR FRAUDULENTLY INDUCED LOANS. THEY ALSO DEFRAUDED US WHEN THEY SET US UP TO FAIL BY BUNDLING UP GOOD LOANS WITH BAD, THEY INTENTIONALLY PUT ALL OF US ON TITANIC OF MORTGAGE FRAUD WHEN THEY BUNDLED LOANS THEY KNEW WOULD FAIL THEY KNEW THAT WOULD CA– USE US ALL TO FAIL.. . PMI INSURANCE AND CREDIT DEFAULT SWAP INSURANCE PROVES THEY KNEW WE WOULD FAIL. THEY INSURED THE SHIT MBS’s TO THEE HILT AND THEN THEY GOT BAILED OUT BY THE TAX-PAYERS,TOO BECA– USE THE CRIMINALS WERE DEEMED TOO BIG TO FAIL. THIS WAS BIGGEST PONZI SCHEME HEIST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN HISTORY.
Poor Hank, doesn’t have a clue about the rule of law. I wonder if he gets his kicks showing off his ignorance for the world to see.
HANK….THE BANK SITTING AT THE CLOSING TABLE WAS NOT THE LENDER….THE FUNDING FROM ‘ INVESTOR(S), ANOTHER ENTITY OR PRIVATE INVESTOR…WAS WIRED TO THE CLOSING BEFORE THE CLOSING AND PLACED IN ESCROW. …THE BANK NEVER INVESTED ONE CENT TO THE FUNDING. THEY RECEIVED A NOMINAL FEE TO CLOSE THE LOAN….AND THAT BANK MAY HAVE BEEN THE SERVICER AFTER THE CLOSING…BUT NOT ALWAYS. YET, THAT BANK PUT THEIR NAME ON THE NOTE AND MORTGAGE AS PAYEE/LENDER WHEN IN FACT THEY WERE NOT THE PAYEE/LENDER. MOST MORTGAGES WERE SOLD BEFORE THE CLOSING, BEFORE THE PAPERS WERE EVEN SIGNED. THIS WAS NOT TOLD TO THE BORROWER. THE TITLE COMPANY AT MY DAUGHTERS CLOSING REQUESTED THE RECORDERED MORTGAGE TO BE RETURNED TO THE TITLE CO. AND NOT THE BANK. THIS WAS THE RED FLAG. THAT MEANT THE BANK DID NOT FUND OR OWN THE NOTE AND MORTGAGE. ALL COPIES OF THE NOTE WERE STAMPED BY THE TITLE CO. ‘ AS TRUE COPIES ‘. IN ORDER TO GET ALL COPIES OF THE CLOSING MY DAUGHTER HAS TO GO TO COURT AND SUBPOENA THE TITLE CO. WHY?? CA– USE OF THE PRIVACY ACT..TO PROTECT THE ACTUAL LENDER/FUNDER. SO THE BANK OWNED SHIT AND YET THE PAYMENTS WERE TO BE SENT TO THEM…HOW PERFECT WAS THAT SCHEME..THEY THEMSELVES, THE BANK, WERE THE SERVICERS…NOT THE OWNER OR LENDER. THEN THE BANK TOOK COPIES OF THE NOTE STAMPED AS TRUE COPIES AND SOLD THEM OVER AND OVER WITH NO TRAIL LEFT BEHIND. NOW THAT BANK IS OUT OF BUSINESS AND CHASE CAN’T FIND SHIT.
SO DON’T RATTLE ON ELEMENTARY EXAMPLES OF LENDING MONEY TO NEIGHBORS….THAT IS NOT A BANK THAT POSED AS A FUNDER/LENDER/OWNER OF THE NOTE AND MORTGAGE..AND ALL PAYMENTS SENT WERE TO A FAKE BANK. ….THAT — USED THE NOTE TO GAIN MILLIONS IN THEIR POCKET….AND NOT ONE CENT INVESTED. DO YOU SEE FRAUD??? IF NOT..MAYBE YOU ARE ON THE WRONG FORUM AND NEED TO LEAVE.
the banks are ignoring their obligations too Hank, people are and will continue to win their homes free and clear, unless the banksters can pay off the politicians faster…so they can change the laws…alot of quiet title filing coming in the next year….the banks need court fraud to cover up their mortgage fraud scam so that they can FC, its not right…lying in court, forged documents,this effects the beats and the deadbeats…due process baby…poof gone
How do you feel about tax payer bail out money given to car dealerships because they have filed bankruptcy and cannot honor their obligations….what was the purpose of the bailout? Was that morally obscene to not honor their original contracts? Do you watch as those in charge of the Treasury Department are questioned about missing money to the tune of $53 T (trillion) dollars worth. Where was it allocated? Answer, blank stares….like a deer caught in the headlights….Moral turpitude? Really.
I don’t buy your analogy of lending your neighbor $5 grand. If I lent my neighbor $5 grand, he knows who his lender was and has direct contact to speak directly to me should he need new terms due to personal circumstances. He is not instructed to go down the street to John Smith’s house and speak with Mr. Smith’s representative, who in turn will pass it along to my savings bank’s manager to decide whether or not to allow him new terms….Do you get where I’m going with this?
Do you not find it obscene that credit card companies decided that they could just up your interest rate on your new purchases as well as previous balances. This is in addition to the outrageous interst they charge anyway? But yet you speak of homeowners lack of moral conscience. Really?
Do you think it is OK that robo-signers, who have not even seen the documents they are testifying to, assign mortgages and, in my case, filed a satisfaction of lien. Now that MERS is not being recognized as having the authority to originate these transactions, it leaves me vulnerable for future defense that this loan was paid. I was strung along until my savings was wiped out to receive a loan mod. Instead, I was told I didn’t qualify for a mod., however, the fixed the loan app. to make sure I qualified for a refinance that an additional $10 grand was added to my loan balance which was already under water, because the bank wanted a little more profit instantly. Again, talk to me about the moral turpitude I am lacking. Really?
You sound to me like someone who is more concerned with what “you” feel is fair, or the lack thereof, then truly having a concern for the tanking of our economy and the complete lack of moral turpitude of our government, politicians and legal institutions of this United States. It is you who has been brainwashed and it is you and people with your “upstanding moral attitudes” that are sustaining the ability of those in power to steal the country and your freedoms right out from under you while those same theives that you look up to are laughing at your naive childlike adoration all the way to the BANK.
Your analogy about not being paid at work is just a plain silly comparasion and shows your understanding of our current world economy to be, indeed, childlike and naive. I’m afraid you are easily fooled and perhaps, it is you, who needs to open your mind a bit and really try to dig deep to comprehend what is really going on right before your very eyes. And please, you can disagree with me but spare me the english, grammar and composition critique.
@Hank, I can see your ignorance all the way trough, so instead of answering you comments i’m going to recommend you some bocks, also a movie (“inside Job”) so you can be on the same level of education, get inform and educate yourself , For bocks: The Big Short. The great American Stick up, All the Devils Are Here, The Two Trillion Dollar Meltdown, Once you read at least one or 2 of these well written books, come back i would like to read your comments, Get inform, Get educated !
ok ivent, i agree with you 1000%that people are losing therir homes do to bank fraud ( which led to foreclosure fraud) the watson settlement is just the tip of the iceberg for our due process rights in general…(hank did you hear that) its not just the FC fight ( we the people) are being trampled on and sold out in a BIG way…theoldinvestmentbanksthenewmoneycenterbank shell game proved that from what i understand …can you say (cover up) its all controlled by the same cabal …the FED cant show us their cards because they are bluffing, but i vent its not the real battle…and if it was such a big deal anyway there would be more outrage, right?..you cant win THIS battle without civil disobedience, yet the streets are empty, WHY?
i personally cant stand with the bob the builder or enron crowds…i quess im an island.and of the opinion that, we are ALL screwed… so get to where you want to be and defend til the end..
@ acmodspecialists Your posts are virtually unreadable due to your poor grammar and spelling. It is ironic that you are telling others to “get educated and informed”.
Why Is Glenn Beck After The SEIU?
Because he is paid to trash Americans, and America.
He’s a promoter of anything bad for Americans, especially if it helps the ultra rich. That is true of almost everyone in Rupert Murdoch’s employment.
Those who are drinking GLENN BECKS’S PSYCHO BABBLE KOOL-AID will be the FIRST ones to GO. He is FEAR MONGERING ABOUT ALL OF THE WRONG THINGS AND HE IS GIVING PEOPLE THE WRONG APPROACH TO THIS WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE NEW WORLD ORDER/U.N. WANTS HIM TO DO.The people who are believing BECK are personally ordering their own FEMA COFFINS by believing BECK’S LIES.. When the U.N./NEW WORLD ORDER comes to put them in the FEMA CAMPS, they are going to say WTF HAPPENED???? BELIEVE THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT BECK SAYS, THEN YOU WILL BEGIN TO SEE THE LIGHT. GLENN BECK IS A TRAITOR, A NAZI, A LIAR AND A FRAUD. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!! TIME TO THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX!!!!!!!!
I am embarrassed to admit this ,thats what I thought too ,and its not your fault, We have all been mislead purposely, However a year ago thats all I heard, were the story’s that were not told with all the facts , like the one from Cook County , Maryellen failed to leave out the part where $ub$tancial amounts,were added to theses loan$, She failed to tell us about the family’s that have been thrown out of their houses ,and KICKED to the curbs ,Maryellen failed to leave that part out PURPOSELY, to brain wash us into believing what she wanted us to.
Maryellen left you believing, by not telling the whole story, that the FRAUDCLOSURES COULDN’T BE THE WRONGDOINGS OF THE BANKS.
I hope I cleared up a lot up, and pulled the wool off the eyes of a lot of people, that have been purposely misinformed, mislead ,FLAT OUT LIED TO , We have been intentionally brainwashed …into believing that the foreclosures are the homes of DEADBEATS , trying to get their houses for free,
clueless, there is nothing to be embarrassed about, I know home defender DEADBEATS who are fighting the DEADBEAT banksters and i stand with the defenders ,,,plus… we are in a depression with over 16% unemployment that was created to control us ALL, its the divide and conquer play, no biggie …fight the banksters at every chance, shed your normalcy bias, take off your gloves and pray for discernment…we need YOU in the fight…oh and about maryellen, well, she was deadWRONG…it’s funny what people will do for money, uh?
Glenn Beck, while right on many thing, is wrong on many as well. He rails against those that control our government, the owners of the FED, yet he wants to protect them. He has no clue about the fraud these banks have committed. Sometimes I think that Beck is put forth as a distraction by the masters that control our fiat government. He is defending the very institutions that have destroyed our economy and plan to enslave us. It is quite possible that he is an agent provocateur.
GLENN BECK IS A FRAUD. HE IS USING REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. HE IS NOT NAIVE BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION AND HE HAS AMASSED GREAT WEALTH FROM HIS SCAM. HE IS WORKING FOR THESE ASSHOLES. THEY SIGN HIS CHECK.
Gady, Glen beck never been right in not even one thing
acmodspecialists, I am not a Glenn Beck supporter, but your claim “he has never been right in not even one thing”, is factually incorrect. Glenn has been correct in identifying many of the Marxists in Imam Obama’s regime, as well as in revealing much of the history of the progressive movement in America.
As I said, I am not a Glenn Beck supporter, but your claim is factually wrong. I suggest you do some historical research rather than just shooting from the hip.
What do you mean he wants to protect them? For crying out loud he had the Griff on this week, read The creature from jekyll island…watch becks goldman sucks episode…he always sez “do your homework dont believe me”, him…all the shills twist to their audience and both parties eat it up…
Well duh! Let me see if I can help you understand. He has his panties all in an uproar over the suggestion that there would be an effort to “bring down” J.P. Morgan. Starting to get it yet? Why is he so concerned about protecting J.P. Morgan? J.P. Morgan is a criminal enterprise, an integral part of the FED. and he is protecting them. Why is that? His position is like someone saying Let’s protect the hen house from the foxes but “protect the foxes”. Instead of your blind love for Beck, use your brain to think critically. As I have said, he is right on some things and wrong on some. He is wrong to defend J.P. Morgan.
Grady, do you really believe that Glen Beck has no clue about the fraud these banks have committed and still do? wow these frauds are very well documented and he is in the media do you really believe that this guy does not know or you trying to give him save face ? whoever at the same time you state the following: “I think that Beck is put forth as a distraction by the masters that control our fiat government” so which one is it the guys is also a FRAUD
acmodspecialists, I have not said that he doesn’t know about the fraud. I am sure he does and that is the point. He won’t address it and he is actually trying to protect one of the biggest perpetrator of that fraud, J.P. Morgan. Do you need word pictures to help you understand that something is fishy with your idol Glenn Beck?
The rest or your comment is unreadable do to your poor grammar so it is difficult to understand what you are trying to say.
I saw that episode of Glenn Beck. He is claiming the SEIU is behind the PONZI SCHEME and it WAS NOT THE BANKSTERS. HE SAID DON’T LISTEN TO PEOPLE TELLING US NOT TO PAY THE MORTGAGE. I WANTED TO SHOOT THE TV. I HAVE KNOWN FOR A WHILE NOW THAT GLENN BECK IS A NAZI. I READ THAT GEORGE SOROS WHO HE SUPPOSEDLY HATES GAVE BECK 50 MILLION DOLLARS TO START THE TEA PARTY TO GET THE REPUBLICONS BACK IN OFFICE.THAT DIABOLICAL SNEAK, GLENN BECK IS AN AMERICAN TRAITOR, A PHONY AND A LIAR AND HE IS WORKING FOR THE VERY PEOPLE HE CLAIMS TO DESPISE. HE IS A LIAR AND HAS BEEN USING REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. I HEARD HIS RATINGS ARE IN THE TOILET, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE COMING TO REALIZE HE TO IS A LIAR, A FRAUD AND A TRAITOR..
Google does not show such a donation.
George Soros gave one million dollars to Media Matters, a media watchdog group. So, Glenn Beck, and the entire right-wing apparatus, apparently, are up in arms about that.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/1010/Soros_gives_1_million_to_Media_Matters.html
If Fox News® tell the truth, as they keep saying they do, then being exposed should be good for them. Makes one wonder…
COME ON, GOOGLE IS IN THEIR CABAL! GLENN BECK IS FULL OF PSYCHO BABBLE. HE IS A NEWS MEDIA TRICK. I HEARD ON TALK RADIO THAT BECK AND SOROS HAVE LUNCH TOGETHER AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK. HE IS BUDDIES WITH THE NEW WORLD ORDER AND SO IS GOOGLE.
would love 2 see that picture of beck and soros
That would be the bomb!!!
ivent, Wheres the 50million? It would really be appreciated…you dont want to be like maryellen now, do you?