Marine Sent to Stalinist Mental Ward for Questioning 9/11
Former marine Brandon Raub was carted off by the Feds and locked in a psychiatric ward for Facebook posts questioning the government’s version of 9/11.
Surely the Feds are right … that kind of talk is crazy, right?
Maybe. But remember that government apologists are also eager to label anyone “taking a cynical stance toward politics, mistrusting authority, endorsing democratic practices, … and displaying an inquisitive, imaginative outlook” as worthy of a trip to the insane asylum. (Those traits may also get one labeled as a potential terrorist.)
That would make many of the 9/11 Commissioners themselves crazy and dangerous … since they don’t buy what the government says about 9/11, they say that the government has covered up the state sponsorship of the 9/11 hijackers, and Al Qaeda flying planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon was entirely foreseeable .
Indeed:
- The 9/11 Commission’s co-chairs said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements (free subscription required)
- 9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says “I don’t believe for a minute we got everything right”, that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, and that the 9/11 debate should continue
- 9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said “We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting”
- 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: “It is a national scandal”; “This investigation is now compromised”; and “One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up”
- 9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that “There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn’t have access . . . .” He also said that the investigation depended too heavily on the accounts of Al Qaeda detainees who were physically coerced into talking, and he has called for a permanent investigation to get to the bottom of the remaining mysteries
- And the Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) – who led the 9/11 staff’s inquiry – recently said “At some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened“. He also said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.” And he said: “It’s almost a culture of concealment, for lack of a better word. There were interviews made at the FAA’s New York center the night of 9/11 and those tapes were destroyed. The CIA tapes of the interrogations were destroyed. The story of 9/11 itself, to put it mildly, was distorted and was completely different from the way things happened”
They should obviously be committed to the same psych ward which Mr. Raub is currently enjoying.
Sociological studies shown that fear of terrorism has made people blindly accept false justifications for war – including believing that Saddam had a hand in 9/11 (when even the 9/11 Commission says he didn’t).
Some people believe that government personnel were criminally negligent in letting 9/11 happen, and then obstructed justice to cover it up. See this, this, this, this, and this. Others believe that rogue government personnel allowed 9/11 to happen, or even played a role in the attacks themselves.
But isn’t our society built on freedom of speech? And if someone has kooky theories, won’t the scientific method and free debate defeat the baseless theories? Isn’t that what modern society is all about?
The important thing for the purpose of this post is not what really happened, but the fact that many sociologists and mental health professionals say that those who believe the official version without any questioning are the ones suffering from psychological defense mechanisms.
For example the following mental health professionals say that questioning the government’s cut-and-dried version of 9/11 is the sane thing to do:
- Associate Professor Emeritus of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, Lester Grinspoon, MD
- Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, Duke University Medical Center, as well as Radiology, at Duke University Medical Center D. Lawrence Burk, Jr., MD
- Board of Governors Distinguished Service Professor of Psychology and Associate Dean of the Graduate School at Ruters University Barry R. Komisaruk
- Distinguished Professor in the Department of Mental Health Law and Policy, Professor of Medicine in the Department of Internal Medicine and Distinguished Professor of Global Health in the College of Public Health, University of South Florida, Michael D. Knox
- Professor Emeritus, Psychology and Neuroscience, Beckman Institute, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Michael Gabriel
- Professor of Psychology at University of New Hampshire William Woodward
- Professor of Psychology at University of Essex Philip Cozzolino
- Professor of Psychology at Goddard College Catherine Lowther
- Professor Emeritus of Psychology at California Institute of Integral Studies Ralph Metzner
- Professor of Psychology at Rhodes University Mike Earl-Taylor
- Retired Professor of Psychology at Oxford University Graham Harris
- Retired Psychiatrist. Former Assistant Professor of Psychiatry, Jefferson Medical College. Former Major, U.S. Army Medical Corps, Vietnam Veteran 7 years service, Jon Bjornson, MD
- Ph.D. Clinical Neuropsychologist Richard Welser
- Trauma specialist Danielle Duperret, Ph.D.
- Psychiatrist Carol S. Wolman, MD
- Psychiatrist E. Martin Schotz
- Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from the University of Nebraska and licensed Psychologist Ronald Feintech
- PhD in clinical psychology from Texas Tech Michael Green
- PhD in educational psychology Brent Igo
- PhD psychologist Paul Johansson
- PhD psychologist Gail Maudal
- PhD psychologist Robert Hopper
- Ph.D Psychologist Dorothy Lorig
- Psychologist Robert Griffin
There are many other mental health professionals who agree.
And watch this must-see 15-minute interview with psychologists:
Former Marine Locked In Psychiatric Ward Over 9/11 Facebook Posts was originally published on Washington’s Blog
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The Gov. Corp certainly does not deserve our respect. They failed the American people and they are abusing their power all over the place. They have no respect for the U.S.C. or any of us.
STOP AND THINK !! LEARN FROM THIS !! Brandon is vulnerable because some of his posts could be perceived as condoning violence. Remember Dr. Martin Luther King and his teachings of non-violence .. Dr. King taught us how to avoid what is happening to Brandon. We can help Brandon by using non-violent protest. He should not be detained without due process of law. Even if he is suspected of being a danger to society, he should be charged with something before he can be detained against his will.
Wednesday, 22 August 2012 14:10 Former Marine Held in Psychiatric Hospital Over Facebook Posts Questioning Govt.
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“The police state is here.”
Thus spoke John Whitehead, president of the Rutherford Institute, in reference to the arrest and involuntary commitment of former U.S. Marine Brandon J. Raub (pictured) of Chesterfield County, Virginia. On August 16, Raub was visited at his home by Federal Bureau of Investigation agents and Chesterfield County police because of alleged complaints about Raub’s Facebook posts, many of which questioned the received wisdom from Washington, D.C., and a few of which suggested violence. According to the Rutherford Institute, which is defending Raub, police and FBI agents “did not provide Raub with a search warrant,” but he nevertheless “was cooperative and agreed to speak with them.”
“Without providing any explanation, levying any charges against Raub or reading him his rights, law enforcement officials then handcuffed Raub and transported him first to the police headquarters, then to John Randolph Medical Center, where he was held against his will,” wrote the Institute.
Chesterfield County Police Chief Col. Theirry Depuis told the Associated Press that Raub was detained “upon the recommendation of mental health crisis intervention workers,” who apparently considered dangerous the Marine sergeant who served honorably in Iraq and Afghanistan and who, according to Richmond television station WTVR, has a “clean” criminal history and “no mental health history.” Under Virginia’s emergency custody statute, an individual can be subjected to civil detention and psychiatric evaluation if he is considered a threat to himself or others.
At a hearing before a special justice on August 20, Raub was asked about his Facebook posts.
“He had an opportunity to share and respond to the questions being asked him about his Facebook posts,”
continued.
“He had an opportunity to share and respond to the questions being asked him about his Facebook posts,” his mother, Cathleen Thomas, told WTVR. “He responded and explained himself, and the judge also allowed me to give some facts and basically a character representation of my son, which I did. And then he proceeded to read the (mental health) evaluation that was given on Brandon. The evaluation, I was told by my son, was 15 minutes long, and basically the evaluator said that he was not ready to go back into society and he needed additional psychiatric treatment.”
And with that, the special justice ordered Raub’s continued detention at a Veterans Administration hospital for up to 30 more days.
“For government officials to not only arrest Brandon Raub for doing nothing more than exercising his First Amendment rights but to actually force him to undergo psychological evaluations and detain him against his will goes against every constitutional principle this country was founded upon. This should be a wake-up call to Americans that the police state is here,” Whitehead said. “Brandon Raub is no different from the majority of Americans who use their private Facebook pages to post a variety of content, ranging from song lyrics and political hyperbole to trash talking their neighbors, friends and government leaders.”
Great video from the mental health professionals who explain people’s denial when presented with facts that go against a persons core beliefs, such as 9/11 or the mega huge bank fraud that has been committed against America.
Because it’s hard to believe that you can not trust your government, trust your bank, trust your legislators, or trust your courts.
Thanks to all the folks at 4closurefraud for having the courage to publish this story, and please if you can update the story.
What is the update?????????????
Thanks to 4closurefraud for publishing this.
I hope more people will see the connection between 9/11 and the phony economic crisis. These acts have put the cherry on top of the cake they have been baking over the last 30 years where the middle class has had a 17% drop in real wages.
Only by raising awareness of the reasons we find ourselves in the currant situation will we be able to effect meaningful changes required for future prosperity.
Much is talked about cutting the deficit, but not about retiring the debt.
If over half of our taxes are going to pay interest on the debt, could we not cut tax’s in half if we retired it?
Andrew Jackson was the last President to do this.
With the debt close to 19 Trillion it has doubled under the last two Presidents.
How can we get out from under this crushing debt?
1 We could declare bankruptcy. A act that may result in global financial collapse, & possible war, or
2 A. We could sell off a good part of the 72% of the land mass in America owned by the government, a lot of which is ocean front, lake front, river front and large tracks of land that could be used for farming, mining, and other uses.
B. Legalize and tax all drugs, with all money going to retire the debt. This would have multiple benefits as we would end the disastrous war on drugs. Over 1 million people in prison are there on drug charges, and 50 K killed on the Mexican border because of our drug policy.
C. Federal Lottery. Grand Prize 1000 acres and 10 Million.
D. Temporary tax on gas/fuels until the debt is retired.
If we were to implement the debt, the most of it owed to the Federal Reserve system that we need to abolish as it charges us 3% of every dollar printed
Congress has the power to coin debt free money to fund a national high speed rail system, a project that would take 10/20 years, a long term economic engine.
America is worth over 300 Trillion, we can pay off 19
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Thanks David!
you are welcome
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best regards and you are most welcome
david black
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John Anderson’s options for settling the debt are for the most part unworkable. In the case of the Fed owning (claiming) 75+% of the land in Nevada, a short history lesson will reveal that the fed obtained the land through fraudulent use of federal agents. The ceding of the territory to the Fed was accomplished by agents of the Fed. I believe that many other States have the same history. The most workable solution is that which had Lincoln assassinated. The issue of dollars directly by the Treasury is discussed at length in Ellen Brown’s book “web of debt” it is a very good read. http://www.webofdebt.com
Here is a link with well researched, interesting and pertinent info about a lot of stuff. You be the judge:
http://investigate9/11.org/Oligarchy.htm
Oops..I made an error…please allow me to correct it: http://investigate911.org/Oligarchy.htm
Anyone who studies the event of 9/11 can not come away not believing that our country was the victim of a false flak attack that was committed by elements within our government. The facts are overwhelming.
All one has to do is study the facts,
Google 9/11 Truth.
http://www.911truth.org/
http://www.ae911truth.org/
pilotsfor911truth.org/
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/
http://www.firefightersfor911truth.org/
http://www.militaryofficersfor911truth.org/
And my favorite
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com
Where real people using their real names tell you why they question the official story.
THIS MARINE HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG.
Oh, and there are no FORMER Marines.
Nut house is not so bad when you know how many of your fellow Marine died around you.
Watch those Marines, first to fight!
Semper Fi
Wow – hopefully no one will be locked away in a psych ward for questioning the “official” version of the housing collapse and the 2008 financial crisis.
The best way to effect a general consensus that the 9/11 story is suspect is to enter the question into the popular dialogue. One such example is to change the ever popular saying “if you believe that, then I have some swamp water in Florida (or a bridge) to sell to you.” To “ If you believe that then building seven was hit by an airplane! “ Or, “if you believe that then I have some official stories to tell you”
Once one such saying catches on, the official story will be forever suspect and discredited.
I agree…the truth is OUT. It is our patriotic duty as Americans to demand this man be freed and spread and share the links to the TRUTH about all of the lies we have been told. The Govt Corp did fail the people on 9/11 and in this manufactured economic crisis and the Govt Corp were WARNED WELL IN ADVANCE about ALL of it.
THERE WAS A BOOK PUBLISHED IN FRANCE WRITTEN BY THE DIRECTOR OF SECURITY FOR THE NEW YORK TWIN TOWERS AND FORMER FBI ASST DIRECTOR FOR COUNTERTERRORISM THAT DOCUMENST ALL THAT HE KNEW ABOUT THE UPCOMING 9 / 11 attacks and the fact that the governmen knew they were coming and that he had advised the government that is was going to happen exactly as it did on 9/11
best regards
David
David, What was the name of the book?
hello
I read about it in the new york times or washington post not sure which
you will have to research it on the net.
but it was published i n france since no us publisher would touch it.
so it is a book in print.
the author was the security chief for the twin towers in new york city prior to 911
it is on amazon for ten bucks
author is lawrence wright
The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11 by Lawrence Wright (Aug 21, 2007)
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best regards
David
This review is from: The Man Who Warned America (Paperback)
This irony filled book details the life of John O’Neill, the FBI’s counter-terrorism chief until August 2001. The irony comes in when one considers that O’Neill spent most of his career pursuing Osama bin Laden, and then died at the World Trade Center on 9/11, just weeks after assuming a job as head of security for that complex. The book clearly illustrates the vast danger that beauacracy poses to our country. O’Neill was forced into retirement from the FBI due to his flamboyant lifestyle and lack of desire to toe the company line. This is a shame, because O’Neill was one of the few people in the US government who recognized how dangerous bin Laden had become and had the ability and desire to stop him before it was too late. A highly recommended read!
hope this helps
David
This review is from: The Man Who Warned America (Paperback)
This irony filled book details the life of John O’Neill, the FBI’s counter-terrorism chief until August 2001. The irony comes in when one considers that O’Neill spent most of his career pursuing Osama bin Laden, and then died at the World Trade Center on 9/11, just weeks after assuming a job as head of security for that complex. The book clearly illustrates the vast danger that beauacracy poses to our country. O’Neill was forced into retirement from the FBI due to his flamboyant lifestyle and lack of desire to toe the company line. This is a shame, because O’Neill was one of the few people in the US government who recognized how dangerous bin Laden had become and had the ability and desire to stop him before it was too late. A highly recommended read!