H.R. 3808 Alert – Disposing of the President’s Veto of H.R. 3808- Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act of 2010

Well folks, from the calls that were placed and the information we have received it has now come down to the next two hours…


Confirmed with Adelholt’s office that vote is taking place tonight sometime in the next two hours.  This morning was a discussion and agreement to limit discussion to 10mins.


On Wednesday, November 17th, the House will meet at 10:00 a.m. for legislative business. Following One Minutes, the House will recess in order to accommodate the Democratic and Republican Organizing Meetings.

At approximately 4:00 p.m., the House will reconvene and resume legislative business. Last votes expected: 6:00 p.m.

One Minutes(15 per side)

Disposing of the President’s Veto of H.R. 3808– Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act of 2010
(Sponsored by Rep. Aderholt / Judiciary Committee)


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Hearing is over, here are the minutes…



H.R. 3808:
to require any Federal or State court to recognize any notarization made by a notary public licensed by a State other than the State where the court is located when such notarization occurs in or affects interstate commerce  

5:24 P.M. –
On motion to refer the bill and the accompanying veto message to the Committee on the Judiciary. Agreed to without objection. On passage, the objections of the President to the contrary notwithstanding Failed by the Yeas and Nays (2/3 required): (Roll No. 573).

Motion to refer the bill and accompanying veto message to the Committee on Judiciary.


5:14 P.M. –
UNFINISHED BUSINESS – The Chair announced that the unfinished business was the question of passage of H.R. 3808 on reconsideration, the objections of the President to the contrary notwithstanding, and on motions to suspend the rules which had been debated earlier and on which further proceedings had been postponed.  

H. Con. Res. 332:

The title of this measure is not available 

4:42 P.M. –
Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection. On agreeing to the resolution Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: (Roll No. 572).

Considered as privileged matter.


H.R. 3808:

to require any Federal or State court to recognize any notarization made by a notary public licensed by a State other than the State where the court is located when such notarization occurs in or affects interstate commerce 

4:41 P.M. –
POSTPONED PROCEEDINGS – At the conclusion of the allotted debate time, the Chair announced that under the Constitution, the yeas and nays were ordered on the question of passage upon reconsideration, the objection of the President to the contrary notwithstanding. The Chair further announced that further proceedings on that question would be postponed until a time to be announced.  

4:33 P.M. –
DEBATE – Pursuant to the order of the House of today, the House proceeded with 10 minutes of debate on the veto message from the President on H.R. 3808, equally divided and controlled.  

4:32 P.M. –
Pursuant to the order of the House of November 15, 2010, the Chair announced that the unfinished business was the further consideration of the veto message of the President on H.R. 3808.  

4:31 P.M. –
The House convened, returning from a recess continuing the legislative day of November 17.

Thanks All!

18 Responses to “H.R. 3808 Alert – Disposing of the President’s Veto of H.R. 3808- Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act of 2010”
  1. Zoe says:

    I am making frequent sweeps of blogs and article comments, and when I find one that is particularly heavy with “deadbeat haters,” I have a few prepared blurbs to inform of what is happening to ALL homeowners. I post as a new comment, and I reply to a particularly deadbeat-negative post that, hopefully, will not roll off the page for a while. I hope that my post will be sent to those subscribed to the topic.

    I don’t try to explain too much, I just keep to the basics of how this fraud affects them and title to their home, whether they are in foreclosure or not. I don’t politicize it; I simply try to strike at the heart of their security in thinking if they keep paying, then all will turn out well. I give a call to action by suggesting they Google certain terms. I want to give enough thought-provoking facts to inspire them to start asking questions and searching the Internet. The answers are out there now. (I can only imagine where we would be if not for the Internet.)

    The only way we can successfully accomplish our goal is to unite America around this matter. Those who take time to write a scathing rebuke of deadbeats are highly likely to be spewing their anger and disgust at work and at family gatherings. If they write a lot, they usually talk a lot. Both gifts can be turned toward getting the truth out to those who won’t listen to deadbeats.

    I also am working on a brief outline for politicians, who might not take time to read a thesis. 🙂 We need to get rid of the deer-in-the-headlights look in their eyes. I cross my heart, I think I’ve heard some of the senators repeat verbatim some of the comments made on this and other top sites informing about the fraud. I am very thankful for Lisa, Matt, Neil, and others who taught me what was going on. I don’t even remember why I checked out their site. Frankly, as Matt would say, I don’t care. 🙂 I’m grateful for their perseverance.

    We need to let other homeowners know that we are not deadbeats gaming the courts to get free houses.

  2. hogwash says:

    Way to go 4closurefraud and foreclosurehamlet- you all are true American Heroes- hope you guys expose more of the fraud especially in regards to no true consideration, no real money lent, how our signature makes us the creditor not the banks, wet ink signatures/original notes, unilateral contracting, studied concealment, counterfeit – and on and on.



  3. l vent says:

    Such a shame that they want to continue to try keep the charade going. People who know how the crime was committed in the first place and how to find the fraud in their mortgages know this is only to paper over a larger more sinister crime. Everyone who is paying their mortgages on time needs to send the RESPA letter to their ‘LENDER’. They are probably thinking they will use this fraud to go after some more people later when the heat dies down and steal some more houses they DO NOT OWN. Did you all read the Recent Post here at this website that is going to ring the bell of AMERICA. iT IS IN ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE. It is entitled Tatoos, Pyramid Schemes and Social Justice. This article is the bomb for sure. We can’t give up the fight to restore freedom and justice to America and it’s people. We just need to keep spreading the knowledge and hopefully America will all catch on to the BIGGEST PONZI SCHEME IN AMERICA FOLLWED BY THE GREAT STICK-UP OF AMERICA AND THE NEAR OBLITERATION OF OUR COUNTRY AS WE KNOW IT. DO NOT GIVE UP THE FIGHT, I BELIEVE WE ARE WINNING AND WILL WIN. AND IN THE END WE MUST NEVER FORGET TO NEVER STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT CAN HAPPEN TO AMERICA WHEN WE ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION. IT ISN’T PRETTY, FOR SURE, AND WE DO NOT WANT A TYRANICAL DICTORSHIP OR AN OLIGARCHY WHICH IS WHAT IT WAS BECOMING. AND WE CAN NEVER GIVE UP THE FIGHT FOR OUR DEMOCRACY AND WE HAVE TO ALWAYS CONTINUE TO FIGHT TO KEEP IT A DEMOCRACY. WE CAN NEVER BECOME THAT DISCONNECTED AND UNAWARE EVER, EVER AGAIN. THIS IS HOW THEY GAIN CONTROL AND ALMOST DID. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

  4. carol says:

    we need the 185 names to inundate them with calls and e-mails!!!!

  5. Susan DeSimone says:

    The historical integrity of the United States judicial system is simply OVER. I am not proud to be an American as I have witnessed the fraud first hand. We are controlled by Wall Street. I will never waste my time voting or listening to the SCUM. This is a sad moment for “We the People” Americans will not stand up to them, it is simply OVER. Maybe we are a new lawless land of the free.

    Susan DeSimone New Jersey

  6. M B says:

    Unless I misinterpreted, it appears that there were not enough votes to override the veto. So HR3808 lies dormant for now….

    What I don’t understand is why the vote fell along partisan lines (with so many Republicans voting to override the veto, and so many Democrats voting not to override).

  7. cilantro says:

    what slime!

  8. leapfrog says:

    USA Today has article about how concerns are “overblown”. I couldn’t read the rest of the story (spin) though until I watched a GE Capital advertisement.

  9. Officer of the Law says:

    So, both parties are busy making sure that the banksters can cite a Federal law requiring the recognition of any notarized document including one notarized electronically.

    Which enumerated power authorizes the Federal government to control evidence codes in state courts?

    Why did it take over 200 years for Congress to discover that it was “authorized” to determine what will be allowed as evidence in state courts?

    Ignorance of the law is a dangerous thing especially when the public is ignorant and the “law” is controlled by those who do the bidding of criminals. The bankers and their minions in government hope that the public remains ignorant of their crimes commonly reported by their propaganda machine as paperwork mistakes.

    The scum in power really hope that the public remains ignorant of its power to enforce the law, ignorant of the fact that a movement to break the banks by simply withdrawing deposits and moving them to credit unions could be very successful, and ignorant of the fact that we far outnumber them and that many members of law enforcement are awakening to the corruption of our leaders and the crooked prosecutors. It is time to start pulling these scumbags over for weaving and bust them for drug possession, one of their favorite tools to silence those who attempt to stop them.

    Since the Constitution does not give the Federal government any power to determine what constitutes evidence in state courts, this act is a blatant violation of all of our rights under color of law. That constitutes a couple of felonies pursuant to 18 U.S.C. §§ 241 and 242.

    Of course, the cash that Congressman Robert B. “Booby” Aderholt (R-VA) has taken from the banksters to do them favors is also a felony. Naturally, Congressman Aderholt is NOT worried about anyone at the bank owned Dept. of “Justice” doing anything about his criminal conduct, but he may want to take a minute to decide whether or not he wants to renounce his criminal scheme.

    Congressman Aderholt, being an ignorant criminal, doesn’t know that every citizen has the right to arrest anyone who is involved in the commission of a felony. Just like an arrest by a law enforcement officer, a citizen has the right to use all necessary force to make the arrest. So, Congresscrook Aderholt may just want to start looking over his shoulder unless he wants to publicly renounce his participation in this criminal scheme to help the bankers steal more homes and do further harm to the economy.

    Does anyone need any more proof that most members of Congress are working for the banksters and helping them to steal the homes of millions of American families? If so, just recall the billions of our money that Congress gave the poor banksters just before the last election.

    Here is Congresscrook Aderholt’s home page http://aderholt.house.gov/

    Perhaps if a few people call his office and ask if he is aware that he committing a couple of felonies by trying to override the veto of H.R. 3808, he may decide to follow the law. Call his office at (202) 225-4876.

    For more on the power of citizens to make arrests, see http://www.legalaffairs.org/issues/July-August-2004/termsofart_marsh_julaug04.msp
    http://www.constitution.org/grossack/arrest.htm and

  10. Alina says:

    It’s not live – gee wonder why????

    • Stupendous Man - Defender of Liberty - Foe of Tyranny says:

      It terrifies me that so much is riding on this and yet very, very few people have any awareness of the importance at all. Outside of “foreclosure land” practically no one is paying any attention.

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