Guest Post from Anon Contributor | No Satisfactions ….. not now …. nor EVER

No Satisfactions ….. not now …. nor EVER

To go where the MSM has not gone before the Reuters article , “AP Exclusive: Mortgage ‘robo-signing‘ goes on” states:

Most of the tainted mortgage documents in question last fall were related to homes in foreclosure. But much of the suspect paperwork that has been filed since then is for refinancing or for new purchases by people who are in good standing in the eyes of the bank. In addition, foreclosures are down 30 percent this year from last. Home sales have also fallen. So the new suspect documents come at a time when much less paperwork is streaming through the nation’s mortgage machinery.

None of the almost 1,300 suspect Linda Green-signed documents from O’Brien’s office, for example, involve foreclosures. And Jeff Thigpen, the register of deeds in North Carolina’s Guilford County, says fewer than 40 of the 456 suspect documents filed to his office since October involved foreclosures.

Banks and their partner firms file mortgage documents with county deeds offices to prove that there are no liens on a property, that the bank owns a mortgage or that a bank filing for foreclosure has the authority to do so.

The signature of a qualified bank or mortgage official on these legal documents is supposed to guarantee that this information is accurate. The paper trail ensures a legal chain of title on a property and has been the backbone of U.S. property ownership for more than 300 years.

But Lisa Epstein(of ForeclosureHamlet.org) the untiring and incisive activist has something to say about this ALSO, in her post “Et tu, Brute? It’s The Satisfactions Too!” Everyone’s attention is riveted to the foreclosure aspect of this crime and well they should be. But the foreclosures are incredibly just the “tip of the ice berg!” What lies and there are many lies beneath the icy foreclosure behemoth in these murky waters is incredulously far far worse. In a post on “4closurefraud.org” it is documented in the public records that our “dear leader” Barack Obama was robosigned on a “satisfaction of mortgage”. And you know he is not alone. 

See “4closureFraud Exclusive – President Obama Falls Victim to Chase Robo-Signer”    

And “4closureFraud Exclusive Part Deux_President Obama Falls Victim to ANOTHER Robo-Signer

And Linda Green LPS / DOCX | Homebuyers Can’t Get No Satisfaction

The point is plainly this: The entire “Land’s Record” of the United States has been perjuriously clouded and subjected to repeated institutionalized criminal acts that have resulted in millions upon millions of irreparable title imperfections. This started long long before the foreclosure crisis! It started with the advent of MERS in the mid 1990’s.

At some point this is going to affect the ability for the majority of real estate transaction to go forward with “certainty”.  A political “firestorm” of such magnitude may ensue from these realizations that neither political party will be able to dodge the ramifications of it.

The dilemma is all the homeowners who are not in foreclosure can’t refinance(if they weren’t underwater anyway.) due to past robosigned “satisfactions of mortgage” clouding their titles. Many can’t sell because of breaks in the title chain caused by “uncertainty” because prior sales transactions contain questionable documentation noted in the public records. And when and on some fairytale day they pay the loan off many may find they have paid the WRONG party. (Thereby suffering double jeopardy.)

And now the perpetrators want to slither from the crime scene in broad daylight.

Bank Foreclosure Deal Said to Be Held Up Over Liability Releases

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“…. The mortgage servicers want protection from additional state and federal claims over their mortgage practices as part of reaching a settlement ………… The banks are seeking releases that go beyond servicing of mortgages to include lending and securitization of loans, …………. ”

“I would do anything to get it done today,” Dimon said July 14 about a settlement, according to a transcript of the company’s second-quarter earnings call. “But we’ve got to get it right. We’re not going to do it and be subject to double and triple jeopardy. …..” (Really, Mr. Dimon? The homeowners prefer that too! They’d like to see the you and your “best friends” prosecuted for the crimes that you would now ADMIT TOO.)

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4closureFraud.org

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22 Responses to “Guest Post from Anon Contributor | No Satisfactions ….. not now …. nor EVER”
  1. AliceN.Wunderland says:

    This is what I am finding. I have looked at dozens of satisfactions and reconveyances and they are almost all robo-signed/stamped. This is fraud, invalidates the document and makes the loan valid again. So all the refinances that were happening, some people doing it every year, well, all those prior loans are still outstanding. That is how it used to work in the old world. We, however, live in the new world… Wonderland.

    Here in Wonderland nothing is real. Not the loans, not the servicers, not the trusts, not the investors, in some cases not even the names of the people signing the unreal docs. Everything is pretend here and we are also to pretend that all the unreal things we are seeing are real. The only thing that is real is our home and the fact that we live in it. This fact is entering into the consciousness of the people and that is why the everyone that has created this illusion is so concerned. When the people realize nothing is real then they will stop making payments on unreal loans. This is going to be a big problem the whole deck of cards and it is coming.

  2. Fury says:

    “I would do anything to get it done today,” Dimon said July 14 about a settlement…

    you would do anything, dimon?

    how about paying your victims your ill-gotten gains.
    each defrauded homeowner would get what you made on their loan by selling it 50 times or more.

    that goes for all of the banksters.

    that is the “settlement: your crime victims want.

  3. WOODKNOT says:

    ahhhhh this brings to mind the old Rolling Stones song- I CANT GET NO SATISFACTION ! ! ! !

  4. talktotennessee says:

    Didn’t the Fed just get audited with the report coming out yesterday via GAO? Didn’t the GAO say that the trillion dollar emergency funds put out by the Fed were distributed by the same banks to bailout their own banks who screwed the system so badly? Conflict of interest written out of their contracts with the Fed. Talk about bargaining wih the Devil!

    Do you ever get the feeling that you are walking through Jello and it just closes in behind you as you move forward? If you or I did the things the banks have done for graft and greed with the duplicity, fraud, deception and outright criminal acts of forgery, we would be in the slammer so fast it would make our head swim. But the general people just goes right on as if nothing happened, waiting for someone or something to pull them out or just plain ignore the status quo until the banks can somehow buy off or cover enough of their – – – – to keep flying high.

    We have the bold as brass GOP House, as we speak, trying to destroy the only Consumer Advocacy agency that has been set up to handle consumer complaints on the banking industry. What I fail to understand is the ignorance of a public that would hate Obama so badly that they shoot themselves in the foot and support a party that is blatantly working against their own interests and doing it so openly. Forget Obama and protect your own interests, forget the Democrats and work for a third party that listens or has some integrity. It makes you sick to think of the stupidity that would allow the banking industry to slam your rights, paying off Congress, to destroy one of the few good things for consumers that has come down the pike in a long time. Who did you complain to last when your credit card company suddenly raised your rate from 9 to 29 just because they wanted to. Thats right, no one because there is no one unless you want to count the OCC, an in-house rubber stamp if I ever saw one. What happened to Usury laws in this country? Maybe we have already lost any chance for recovery, you know.
    .
    We will be undone by the Chinese or any country that values intelligence over what passes for education and knowledge in this country. We have quit reading or learning in favor of games, reality TV, following tv trials, texting and games on fb. When you talk to people and ask them if they know about the banks and their fraud, they just look at you with that befuddled look and think, what are you some kind of radical? Well, maybe I am.
    I think I could post something bout Casey Anthony and have 100 opinions on fb in minutes.
    Ask if people know anything about Congress, what they are or not doing and they have nothing to say. Most don’t even know who their representatives are.
    No patience with ignorance!

  5. Ron Moss says:

    This is such a mess even Ron Paul could have trouble after he fired the Federal reserve, to clean it up. How far back can you go to Quiet Title?

    • lvent says:

      The American people have to fix this and stand together, indivisible.President Obama talked about this last fall in a speech to the troops. No man can go this alone.

  6. Jeanette Ambrose says:

    What is hardest is to try and pull peoples heads outta their arses…and when faced with the truth they just reinsert their heads…

    3% or die…

  7. Jeanette Ambrose says:

    http://endthefedusa.ning.com/?xg_source=msg_mes_network

    Support HR 459&s 202 to Audit the Fed (reintroduced by Ron Paul)

    and here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYZM58dulPE&feature=player_embedded#at=23

    Ultimately we MUST not just audit it,we must END it..the Monster.

    We the people are the masters of our Servant government.Not the other way around.

    Fact.

  8. Jeanette Ambrose says:

    When will we see a public disclosure that admits to our entire currency itself is unconstitutional?Oh right,conspiracy nuts…

    I was just reading an article about Oak Ridge Tennessee getting ready to receive tons of German nuclear waste,to burn off…nearly 1,000 tons actually…amongst the immediate comments after the article:”….stop&think about this everyone.Here we have been thumping our chests about how we are the greatest and yet we are about to go into default,we send troops all over the world to protect”freedom” and we have failed miserably at that,our jobs have been shipped out of the country;our poverty level is going up making us look more like Brazil,the old Russia and many other countries where 90% of the money is in the hands of 4% of it’s citizens;our natural resources have dwindled down to almost nothing,our waters and air are polluted;people are coming here from foreign countries by the droves straining our resources even more;and now we’ve become the nuclear waste dump for the world.This is what happens when you take something beautiful and turn it into nothing but a cash cow.The cow gets used up&sick.

    Used up.Perfect description.When the wealthy are finished they will move on to another country…”

    Chilling,no?

    We either stand this FRAUD…the FED and their minions down now or we shall inherit the whirlwind,rather our children&grandchildren will inherit global debt slavery that makes this mortgage smoke&MERS look like Disneyland picnic time…

    Hold the Congress accountable”

    Expect justice from the courts?

    WHEN we unite…only….

    3% or bust?

    • Jeanette Ambrose says:

      ps…ironic that a place that was used to develop an atomic weapon to use on Germany(75,000 people working in absolute secrecy) is now being used to accept atomic waste from Germany…
      I don’t know if this means extracting remaining plutonium from spent fuel rods?
      anyhow,NIMBY’s too…like no foreclosures except to “dead beats” being the accepted news?
      I was out in the sun too long everyone forgive me…

  9. lvent says:

    THEY NEVER SECURED THE COLLATERAL LIEN AT ORIGINATION. THEY NEVER OWNED THE LOANS. THEY BUNDLED TOO MANY BAD LOANS WITH GOOD LOANS SO ALL WOULD FAIL BY DOING THAT THEY INTENTIONALLY SET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE UP TO FAIL. THEY INTENTIONALLY COLLAPSED OUR ECONOMY. SEE YOU TUBE VIDEO CNBC ILLUMINATI CRASHES STOCK MARKET. THEY SOLD OUR UNSECURE NOTES TO A GLOBAL TRUST WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION. THEY COMMITTED MASSIVE MORTGAGE FRAUD IN OUR NAMES. THEY — USED DECEPTIVE PRACTICES AND UNFAIR DEALING TO SWINDLE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THEY MUST RESCIND THE FAKE DEBT AND GIVE CLEAR TITLE TO THE PEOPLE. THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS OWNED AND OPERATED BY THE NEW WORLD ORDER. HERE IS THE PROOF: http://www.laleva.cc/economy/whocontrolsthefrs.html

    • lvent says:

      CHASE MANHATTAN BANK IS A BRITISH OWNED BANK, BANK OF AMERICA IS OWNED BY THE BANK OF ITALY. THEY ARE BOTH FOREIGN OWNED AND CONTROLLED MULTINATIONALS.

    • Jeanette Ambrose says:

      We are the STRAWMEN….they know this,and most people will look at you like ya’ have 6 heads….

      Ignorance may be bliss until they steal yer Property,asking you to pay for the robbery,and worse,destroy any hope for”change”…

      War is nearly upon us now…

      • lvent says:

        You are right Jeanette. You have to screwed to find out the truth and then you get really pissed off. STARK RAVING MAD!!!!!

    • Hell No, No More Bail-OUTS says:

      They never perfected my loan. THEY chose to write in a name of a corporation THAT DID NOT exist. That creates a big problem.

      This is one loan among THOUSANDS that apparently were written by CountryWide. CountryWide did have a means to have PROPERLY written the loans. That would have required that they write the loan, citing the LENDER as “CountryWide D/B/A America’s Wholesale Lender”.

      The DID in fact write many loans that way. But on a large number of loans, the LENDER was identified instead as “America’s Wholesale Lender”. NO REFERENCE to that D/B/A is present. Instead, the section in the document goes on to cite that “LENDER” is a New York CORPORATION.

      Now in case you race to the NY SOS website and type in “AMERICA’S WHOLESALE LENDER”, yes, you WILL find that there is NOW a corporation by that name in the state of NY. Click on the link for that corporation. Check out WHEN it was formed and by WHOM. Hmmmm. December 16, 2008? Really? The loans were written from at least as early as 2002 and up until 2007. Also, the information will show WHO set the corporation up. It is by some guy who I find involved in art collection and the like in Canada. No tie-in to CountryWide is present. What you see is another corporation that could come forth to attempt to clam these loans.

      I can not see that the later fling of this corporation can possibly have resulted in my loan becoming perfected. At the time of the loan origination, NO SUCH CORPORATION EXISTED and for my loan, that originated in 2005, there were over 3 years that went by before that corporate name was registered in the state specified in the loan.

      • lvent says:

        Her is some food for thought. My dad got a loan to consolidate some bills and the “lender” sent him a letter and told him they never recorded the lien and placed a lien on his house. There IS an American side to this. He asked me what that meant and I told him if he could not afford to pay the bill , they could not take his home. It is an unsecured debt.

      • lvent says:

        NO PERFECTED COLLATERAL LIEN=UNSECURED DEBT. NO MATTER WHAT TRUST THEY SOLD THE MONEY FLOW (UNSECURED NOTES) TO. THEY LOST TRACK OF OWNERSHIP OF THE LOANS AND THEY LOST THE NOTES. FOR A JUDGE TO SAY SOMEONE IS OWED THE MONEY IS NOT AN EXC– USE OR A LAW.. THE LAW STATES THEY MUST SHOW PROOF, A CLEAN CHAIN OF TITLE OF THE LIEN HOLDER. THEY CAN NOT. THE ORIGINATION FRAUD KILLED THE CONTRACT FOREVER. THEY SOLD UNSECURED NOTES AS SECURITY INSTRUMENTS WITHOUT THE LOAN. THAT IS ILLEGAL.

      • 1ofthemany says:

        @ivent, would you care to talk to someone (me)who has been watching you for some time and I feel you are in the corner of the people in a big way. Would you consider speaking with me as you appear to very knowledge and I would love to have some input so I can, hopefully, map a route for myself if possible?

      • lvent says:

        10th of the many, Do you go to FH? We could talk there. I am just your average citizen but if you think I could help you. Let me know.

      • lvent says:

        They have 90 days but that still does not fix the fact that they sold unsecure notes and not mortgages. They bifurcated the note and the mortgage. They never recorded the proper assignment at origination to perfect their collateral lien. Recording a mortgage assigned to nothing is not a secure lien. Recording an assignment and a mortgage not attached to the deed is not a secure lien. They used improper assignments. In most cases no assignments were recorded at origination or an improper assignment. Regardless, if the notes ever made it to the trusts they sold unsecure notes as secure notes and they were never secured to anything. Even in a re-fi they could not fix the origination fraud. Putting an unsecure note in a trust does not perfect the collateral lien. I have proof. My recorders office told me no “lender” ever assigned a lien in 19 years and the statute of limitations is 12 years. Because of that my house is paid for, I can live in it, sell it. or do whatever I want with it. I have the original stamped paid deed from right after origination with title insurance attached that says my title to that deed is clean, the pretender lenders title is cloudy..

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