Two Separate Crimes | Mortgage Fraud vs Foreclosure Fraud

Mortgage Fraud vs Foreclosure Fraud

by DanJS

When reporting or discussing the economic meltdown of our nation, let us please get it into our minds that Mortgage Fraud and Foreclosure Fraud are two separate crimes and focus must be given to the definitions of the two.

“Mortgage Fraud” is a long-established criminal act that must always be severely prosecuted…. but —

Our most pressing national mortgage-related problem is not mortgage fraud, but “Foreclosure Fraud”!

The “culprits” and the “victims” are different parties:

In Mortgage Fraud, individuals fraudulently manipulate real estate activities, sales and closings… The “culprits” falsify information to obtain loans to finance homes…. The “Banks and Lenders” are the “victims.”

With Foreclosure Fraud, it is the “Banks” and the “Wall-Street Lenders” who are the “culprits.”

Homeowners, local governments, pension funds, and other investors are victimized.

Banks are stealing homes from homeowners. They do this by suing for foreclosure without proving they have standing to sue and without presenting to the court proof that the “borrowers” have defaulted on an obligation owed to the party named as the plaintiff.

Bankers’ attorneys routinely bring forged and fabricated documents to court. They then submit perjured documents regarding factual information required by law and “rubber-stamped” by local judges who do not question either the documents nor verify that the foreclosing attorneys are actually representing who they say they are representing.

These same banks fraudulently by-pass local land records offices and illegally evade paying fees and taxes which could be providing much needed local revenues while leaving land records rooms with severely clouded property title chains! There are land recorders in our nation who have proclaimed the records rooms they are responsible for maintaining as a “scene of a crime.” ….Rife with document fraud the land recorders did not cause. Now they are the “stewards” of the mess that has resulted.

Every land recorder or Clerk of Superior Court of every county in this nation should work with their “commissioners” to obtain and initiate suits on behalf of the taxpayers of their counties to reclaim not only revenues that have been illegally evaded, but damages sufficient to correct the titles in their land records at least back to the end of the 1980’s.

Pension funds and other investors have been lied to by the “investment bankers of Wall Street” whose “offerings” were bolstered by suborned ratings agencies. As such, millions of Americans whose funds managers purchased fraudulent securities rated “AAA” have seen the value of their retirement funds reduced by 30-40% or more. Our national economy is in a shambles due to this one scandal alone!

We must re-frame the task of the “President’s Working Group.” The “committee chairs” must be told that “Mortgage Fraud” is not the foremost priority desired by the Homeowners/Voters of America.

What must be targeted as the highest priority is Foreclosure Fraud!

In every communication we initiate, those who are involved with this issue must clearly state the words “Foreclosure Fraud”!

[My favorite descriptor is “Fraudclosure,” but the nomenclature of the this vital issue must be re-framed to stipulate what the issue is. ]

Otherwise, millions of Americans will ultimately lose years of the fruits of their labors to theft by thieves and scoundrels.

Definitions of words are vitally important. Ayn Rand stated “Words have meaning!” The words we use daily direct the argument we are making.

Just as the “Banksters'” public relations folks have effectively created the proposition that there were thousands of people who created “Liars Loans” to “Get mortgages they could not afford!,” we must consistently counter (with accurate words) the notion that it is the homeowners who “Just want to get a free house!”

We must repeat with vigor and clarity that it is the “‘Banksters’ who “want a free house!” ..So much so, in fact, that they intentionally engineered a system designed to manufacture and create unjust results.

The very idea that a “tryer of facts,” any judge, who would proclaim that the bank may proceed when no legally certain, and verifiable proof of “standing to forward a legal case” exists by the foreclosing party… The very idea is repugnant, but these actions take place daily in American courts! Any judge that permits perjury in his or her court should be re-called by the citizen homeowners of his or her jurisdiction.

Where are the cases being filed that will hold judges accountable to the law they are sworn to adjudicate?

Where are the criminal indictments to hold accountable, fine, and incarcerate the “culprits” at every level of this “local to national” land fraud. At the very least, forgery, perjury, and false utterances by all parties (and their enabling attorneys) should be addressed. To the extent these crimes can be revealed and proved, the existing laws should be enforced.

For any District Attorney or Attorney General to say that there are not laws on the books to prosecute these crimes is specious and suspicious… it’s as though they hope to legislate new laws that will provide “wiggle room” for defendants to use to avoid massive fines or jail time. No future “financial settlement” should ever allow a corporation to “neither admit nor deny fault.”

And… for the millions of homeowners who live in “non-judicial states”… the real estate law of every state that prevent judicial review of foreclosure by local courts… those state laws must be overturned.

Indeed, “non-judicial foreclosure” was the first, foundational step of the “Banksters and Wall-Streeters” who engineered massive, unregulated, residential mortgages securitization, and the “MERS-Machine” that enabled the massive Ponzi scheme that must be unraveled!

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54 Responses to “Two Separate Crimes | Mortgage Fraud vs Foreclosure Fraud”
  1. lvent says:

    Here is some more information about the diabolical and maniacal world of the moneyed elite, their minions and cohorts:
    http://truedemocracy.net/td14/05a.html

  2. Joe Gaffney says:

    Ivent, you are making a mockery of an illegal process that is devastating millions of Americans with your absurd ravings about the Vatican, Priests, etc. It appears that you can get away with that crap multiple times. You are not part of the solution; you are part of the problem! Your inane rantings appear to be designed to deflect rightful and proper attention. Your posts tend to make potential supporters believe we are all raving morons like you!

    Who do you work for? Hmmm? Which one of the fraud specialists, a big bank/servicer, or an inhumane foreclosure law firm?

    • lvent says:

      First of all Joe Gaffney..I have never said a word about any priests..Second of all the only entities who are attempting to make a mockery of our System are the Vatican/Rothschild NEW WORLD ORDER and all of their minions and cohorts who have hijacked our Country..I was brought up Catholic..brought my kids up Catholic and was appalled to learn that not only was I lied to my entire life but, the Catholic Church is really a big front and are actually behind all of the evil in the world including this evil plan we are all living..as well as their elite minions the Rothschild Dynasty..I was also surprised to know that MY KIDS ALREADY KNEW this stuff was true…. ! I guess CNBC is making a mockery too..See the you tube video…CNBC ILLUMINATI CRASHES STOCK MARKET….I really don’t give a shit what you “think”…the truth is in plain sight now and everyone is finding out THE TRUTH…SO PEOPLE LIKE YOU CANT SHOOT THE MESSENGER ANYMORE!..We are all here and living this nightmare because of all of these dirty bastards..WHO ARE THE PUPPET MASTER WHO DID INDEED INSTITUTE THIS EVIL PLAN..EITHER YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE OR YOU ARE ONE OF THEIR AGENTS…and are a LIAR yourself….! I DARE YOU TO DEBUNK WHAT I SAY WITH FACTS…INSTEAD OF INSULTS!

    • lvent says:

      BTW..Joe Gaffney…I will continue to rant the TRUTH here for however long it takes ….Maybe you should watch some of the YOU TUBE VIDEOS BY FORMER FBI AGENT…TED GUNDERSON…LIKE THE VIDEO ENTITLED…..THE CIA AND SANTANISM…I suppose he is innately ranting too…what about Tom Brokaw…there is a video of a news broadcast on you tube where he talks about a MIDNITE CALL BOY PEDOPHIKE SEX RING AT THE WHITE HO– USE……hear the well resesrced facts on the you tube videos by Eric Jon Phelps about the VATICAN/JESUITS…..GOOGLE THE IN DEPTH INTERVIEW WITH ERIC JON PHELPS ENTITLED….THE MANIACAL AND DIABOLICAL WORLD OF THE JESUITS….GOOGLE SEARCH..VATICAN ASSASSINS …WOUNDED IN THE HO– USE OF MY FRIENDS…..LOOK FOR THE PDF LINK…THESE ARE THE REAL PLAYERS BEHIND THIS EVIL PLAN WHICH INCLUDES 9/11…Go ahead Joe Gaffney…I want you to debunk what these people are saying is not true!

    • lvent says:

      OMG JOE GAFFNEY..I JUST RE-READ YOUR OBNOXIOUS POST.. WHO DO I WORK?… FOR THE BANKS? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? WHO DO YOU WORK FOR JOE GAFFNEY… THE VATICAN/JESUITS/ROTHSCHILDS? A SPECIAL AGENT OF THE REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE!! I KNOW HOW YOU ROLL..PLAYING BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN TO DECEIVE THE INNOCENT!! YOU SEEM AWFULLY PROTECTIVE OF THE GREAT DECEIVERS OF MANKIND! YOU AGENTS OF ROME ARE ALWAYS SO OBVIOUS…YOU ALWAYS — USE THE SAME TACTICS.. YOU ALWAYS “TRY” AND SHOOT THE MESSENGER BY “TRYING” TO DISCREDIT THEM…OR WORSE THAN THAT YOU BLAME THE VICTIMS…! CHECK OUT THE LINKS I POSTED,….OH THATS RIGHT, YOU DONT NEED TO! …YOU WORK FOR THE VATICAN/JESUIT/ROTHSCHILDS!!!! TELL THEM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THINK THAT THEIR EVIL PLAN SUCKS AND THEY ARE NOT FOOLING ANYONE!……AND AMERICA KNOWS THIS IS ANOTHER MONEYED ELITE HITLER PLAN….! WERE NOT DRINKING THE OBAMA KOOL AID NO MORE DOWN HERE ON MAINSTREET…WE KNOW WHAT ALL OF YOUR WALL STREET.BANKER PERPS DID…NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY WILL PREVAIL!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!

  3. William says:

    What is now beginning to surface are the losses attributed to the massive amount of fraud that mortgage originators created and passed on to Freddie Mac with two specific types of origination fraud know as “Double-Funding”, “Double Selling” or “Double Warehousing” fraud and Assignment Fraud.
    ‘“Double-Funding” involves a mortgage originator sending simultaneous funding requests for the same loan to two different warehouse lenders. Both warehouse lenders, unaware of each other, would send funding for the loan to the title companies specified by the mortgage originator. The mortgage originator then disburses the money from one lender to the borrower, while directing the title company to wire the money received from the other lender to mortgage originator’s bank account. The mortgage originators then provide fabricated mortgage documents to the warehouse lenders that falsely represented that the lender’s funds had, in fact, been used to finance borrower loans……’ MULTI-FUNDING! FOLLOW THE MONEY!
    http://www.msfraud.org/DOUBLE_FUNDING_FABRICATION_FORGERY.html

    • Joe Gaffney says:

      This will turn out to be a flea on an elephant’s behind, compared to the securitization-disappearing docs-miraculously-re-appearing docs-fraudclosure scandal. floks, lets not take our eyes off of the real reality. You and Ivent must work for the same foreclosure lawyers!

      • Igor says:

        Joe, the secularizations etc, was done with the FABRICATED COUNTERFEIT MULTI PLEDGED LOANS! Foreclosure lawyers? It would appear YOU work for foreclosure lawyers trying to deflect from the issue of FABRICATED LOANS! The securitzation of the FABRICATED LOANS IS WHAT WIPED OUT THE GLOBAL ECONOMY The MONEY that was STOLE and TRANSFERED to SECRET ACCOUNTS STILL EXISTS. The average person does not get ‘securitizations’ but they do get COUNTERFEIT LOANS! The people want the money stolon on counterfeit loans, RETURNED, and those who commited the crime of counterfeiting loans PROSECUTED ON NATIONAL TV LIKE ENRON, MADOFF, OJ SIMPSON, THE NEUREMBERG TRIALS. WE WNT TO SE THESE PUSS HUMILIATED ON GLOBAL TV, WE WANT THE GOVT TO SEIZE EVERY DIME THEY HAVE, OR WILL EVER HAVE! WE WANT THEM TO GO TO PRISON AND BE TREATED LIKE CHILD MOLESTERS, BECA– USE THEY DESTROYED THE LIVES OF OUR CHILDREN! Get it JOE?
        I believe Ivent goes ballistic because of people like you! However, maybe he does need to fore-go the deeper aspects of this, as it does lend itself to discredit his astute observations. IMHO

  4. William says:

    What is now beginning to surface are the losses attributed to the massive amount of fraud that mortgage originators created and passed on to Freddie Mac with two specific types of origination fraud know as “Double-Funding”, “Double Selling” or “Double Warehousing” fraud and Assignment Fraud.
    ‘“Double-Funding” involves a mortgage originator sending simultaneous funding requests for the same loan to two different warehouse lenders. Both warehouse lenders, unaware of each other, would send funding for the loan to the title companies specified by the mortgage originator. The mortgage originator then disburses the money from one lender to the borrower, while directing the title company to wire the money received from the other lender to mortgage originator’s bank account. The mortgage originators then provide fabricated mortgage documents to the warehouse lenders that falsely represented that the lender’s funds had, in fact, been used to finance borrower loans……’
    http://www.msfraud.org/DOUBLE_FUNDING_FABRICATION_FORGERY.html

    • lvent says:

      Oh yeah..this is the biggest financial crime in history..! A Globalist pig…Coup de tat of all of our wealth..!!! I can only imagine what will be revealed..! I hope there are a lot of politicians squirming! Sick bastards..!

  5. Steve says:

    MORTGAGE FRAUD AND FORECLOSURE FRAUDS ARE THE SAME CRIME!

    A little video about bait and switch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6khYSTqHrqM

    Granted all the mortgage originators are defunct but the chain of assignments still exist. We know the notes and deeds are fakes. But why? Are we trying to avoid documents from the origination? What’s there that’s so important to hide? The underwriting of loans that never should of been approved in the first place?

    • William says:

      The chain of assignments DO NOT EXIST. There were no assignments The loans were COUNTERFEIT. Generated by a computer to defraud the lenders. MultiPledging of loans is the crime. NOT subprime mortgages! STOP taking that batefrom the racketeers hoping to slip it past you! Today,ANYONE who speaks of subprime mortgaes as the problem rather then counterfeit multipledged loans is a co racketeeer! PRIMA FASCIA! The fact that there were employees working for the lenders operating as inside men, does not reflect on the lenders The lenders were bankrupted by this organized crime racket. It is not the BANKS, it is the organized crime operatives who were able to plant themselves inside the bank employee pool, and along with their co-organized crime racketeers in loan origination/broker business, criminal racketeers who pose a lawyers, who made their way up the political/judicial ladder to plant themselves in positions to operate protection rackets.
      WAKE UP! THEY TRANSFERED OUR SOCIAL SECURITY AND OUR COUNTRIES GDP TO THEIR OFFSHORE ACCOUNTS!
      PROSECUTE!

      • William says:

        The BAILOUT was actually a means to underwrite the THEFT! The HUGEST BANK HEIST IN HISTORY since the Romans stole the Israel’s Gold and wiped out Israel in 70AD! AND BLAMED THE JEWS! The ROMANS placed some of their corrupted ‘Jews’ (Rome’s Temple Tax collectors) inside useful places! When the Jewish masses, under the leadership of Jesus, refused to allow the Romans to continue to steal their gold, and demanded the Roman’s Jewish inside men GET OUT OF ISRAEL, the Romans BURNED the Jewish Homeland to the ground and murdered 1.25 million Jews! All for the COVER UP of the HEIST! I fear today, WE ARE ALL JEWS! WATCHING OUR COUNTRY BE DESTROYED TO COVER UP THE HEIST!

      • lvent says:

        Yes William it was the biggest transfer (theft) of wealth from Mainstreet to Wall Street in history…! Wall Street privatized our wealth and socialized their debt onto Mainstreet! They explain it pretty well in the movie…Wall Street…Money Never Sleeps..Richard Shear wrote a book about it called…THE GREAT STICK UP OF AMERICA….Mr. Shear was on the MICHAEL MEDVED radio show in tide late summer of 2010…He said then…there needs to be at least a TEN YEAR MORATORIUM ON FORECLOSURES BECA– USE THE MORTGAGE FRAUD IS MASSIVE…AND IT WILL TAKE AT LEAST TEN YEARS TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT…MAYBE MORE!! THE CRIMES ARE WELL KNOWN YET HERE WE ALL STILL ARE….FIGHTING FRAUDCLOSURE….PRO SE..FOR THE MOST PART BECA– USE OF MASSIVE CORRUPTION!!! THE POLITICIANS ARE WHO I BLAME……COMPLETELY COMPLICATE…SCUMBAGS….DESPICABLE DIRTY BASTARD CRIMINALS WHO ALL BELONG IN GITMO FOR TREASON…IMHO!!!

      • lvent says:

        I’m sorry, I meant to say..Robert Shear wrote the book….. THE GREAT STICKUP OF AMERICA….

      • lvent says:

        The biggest criminals behind this heist are the VATICAN/JESUIT/ROTHSCHILD NEW WORLD ORDER!!! THE SAME CABAL WHO WERE BEHIND THE RISE OF HITLER…THE LAST MANUFACTURED GREAT DEPRESSION…THE SINKING OF THE TITANIC…ALL POLITICAL ASSASSINATIONS…THE POVERTY …THE WARS..THE ILLNESSES…YOU NAME IT.. THEY ARE THE SCOURGE OF HUMANITY! THEIR EVIL PLAN FOR AMERICA BEGAN NOT LONG AFTER THE FOUNDING OF AMERICA….NOW THEY WANT TO COMPLETE THEIR EVIL END GAME PLAN…BANKRUPT THE WORLD…PUT THE WORLD ON THEIR GOLD STANDARD…AND MICROCHIP US…END ALL SOVEREIGN NATIONS….GLOBAL DEBT SLAVERY! THEY NOT ONLY WANT TO OWN EVERYTHING…BUT ALSO EVERYONE!!! ABOLISH THE FED! RESTORE THE US CONSTITUTION…!!! ISSUE US CURRENCY BACKED BY NATURAL RESOURCE REVENUE…STATE BANKS..REMOVE OURSELVES FROM THE UN…

      • lvent says:

        Thanks to the 14th amendment…the President can invoke the temporal power of the Pope any time he wants..All of our laws are based on Roman Canon law..Except possibly property law…and of course not the U.S. CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS..AND THE VATICAN HATES THE U.S. CONSTITUTION AND HAS BEEN TRYING TO UNDERMINE IT AND DESTROY IT SINCE ITS INCEPTION..THEY ARE ALSO THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL FEDERAL RESERVE..! THEY OWN EVERYTHING BY PROXY..

      • lvent says:

        I meant to say they own controlling interest in Wall Street by proxy..they own the world bank.. Imf..federal reserve…all the centralbanks worldwide..

      • Igor says:

        Ivent, A time line suggest this actually started as we see it today in 1981, when Ronald Reagen CUT taxes and BORROWED money. TURNING on the USA, creating the USA going from the LARGEST CREDITOR NATION, to the LARGEST DEBTOR NATION. Destroying America. This, along with the Iran arms for hostages (gave us a militarized Iran), the creation of the Taliban (gave us militarized radicalized Islamofaschists), and brought down Russia so it now LENDS US MONEY! Back in the 1980’s people were saying that Gorbachev and Reagan were two sides of the same coin. Both KGB.
        It looks like we will be another Egypt sooner then latter.

  6. William says:

    It is more likey that BOTH are true. The mortgage fraud was committed by a racket of ‘insiders’ consisting of ‘LOAN ORIGINATORS/BROKERS’, ‘BANK UNDERWRITERS/LOAN OFFICERS, LAWYERS (real-estate lawyers, bank lawyers, criminal defense lawyers, etc etc etc). Today the ‘banks’ who were victims of the mortgage fraud racketeers (of which the BANKS EMPLOYEES WERE RACKETEERS, like a crooked bank teller who is the insider in a bank robbery). are now trying to COVER THEIR ASSETS. What is being covered up with slick double speak, is that the BANK EMPLOYEES WHO WERE THE MORTGAGE FRAUD RACKETEERS are now the BANK EMPLOYEES COVERING THEIR OWN ASSETS! POINTING THE FINGER AT THE BANK IS A VERY SHREWD LAWYER TRICK! THE BANKS ARE BEING VICTIMIZED TWICE BY THEIR EMPLOYEES WHO DISTRACT FROM THEIR TRYING TO CONCEAL THE REALITY OF THEIR MULTI-PLEDGING OF LOAN! DESTROYING THE BANKS, AND THE INVESTORS IN THE TRUSTS THAT THE BANKS SOLD COUNTERFEIT LOANS! THAT IS TO SAY, THAT THE BANKS WERE/ARE VICTIMS OF THEIR EMPLOYEES INVOLVEMENT IN THE MULTI-PLEDGING COUNTERFEIT MORTGAGE RACKETEERING ENTERPRISE. Those bank employees who are spearheading the cover up using FORECLOSURE FRAUD are either COVERING THEIR ASSETS to conceal; their COUNTERFEIT MORTGAGE RACKETEERING ENTERPRISE or are doing so as ACCESSORIES AFTER THE FACT! MORTGAGE FRAUD AND FORECLOSURE FRAUDS ARE THE SAME CRIME! TO BE TREATED AS SUCH!
    Follow the money! The racketeers transfered the counterfeit mortgage funds to their offshore accounts. ID theft, etc is part of their MO. High powered attorneys are co-racketeers providing ‘protection’ at ther highest levels of government/judicial system. These attorneys are racket insiders, not lawyers, but racketeers involved during the fact. They have their offshore accounts to protect! follow the money! WAKE UP!

    • lvent says:

      William..William..they are hiding all of our wealth off balance sheet…they just simply want to bankrupt the people….MASS DECEPTION! THE PEOPLE ARE BEING LED TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER TOTALITARUAN TYRANNY BY SNEAKY STRATEGIC NAZI CLASS WARFARE TACTICS!!!..THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS SATAN!!! AMERICA MUST WAKE UP….AND WALK OUT ON THEIR MASSIVE DEBT ENSLAVEMENT….OR WE ARE DONE AS A SOVERIEIGN NATION! WE MUST REJECT THEIR DEBT!!

  7. lvent says:

    Ban electronic voting!!!….PAPER WRITE IN BALLOTS…PUBLICLY HAND COUNTED! ABOLISH THE FED…! ISSUE OUR OWN CURRENCY BACKED BY NATURAL RESOURCE REVENUES!!!! OPEN STATE BANKS!…BAN THE MICROCHIP!!!!

  8. lvent says:

    The FEDERAL RESERVE IS THE DEVIL…!

  9. William says:

    CRIME-FRAUD EXCEPTION
    ‘There is no privilege under this article [dealing with attorney-client privilege] if the services of the lawyer were sought or obtained to enable or aid anyone to commit or plan to commit a crime or a fraud.’ California Evidence Code section 956
    Where the entire attorney-client relationship is embarked upon in furtherance of criminal activity, and the relationship is permeated by criminal activity and the client takes an active part in it, the crime-fraud exception is satisfied notwithstanding that it may have been the attorney who originally conscripted the client for the illegal purpose. In re Impounded Case (Law Firm) (1989) 879 F.2d 1211, 1213-14.
    In order to establish the crime-fraud exception to the privilege, ‘the party opposing the privilege must establish a prima facie case of fraud. [T]he party must also establish a reasonable relationship between the fraud and the attorney-client communication.’ Cunningham v. Connecticut Mut. Life. Ins. (S.D.Cal. 1994) 845 F.Supp. 1403, 1412
    http://www.lectlaw.com/def/c180.htm

  10. YODE says:

    BULL FEATHERS…..
    EVERY MORTGAGE IS FRAUDULENT!

    The Banksters NEVER GAVE YOU ANYTHING FOR THE RIGHT TO OWN YOUR PROMISSORY NOTE!
    They simply accessed YOUR “Good Faith and Credit”, received YOUR “Money” from YOUR Treasury Account, paid that “Money” to the seller and then turned around and convinced you that you needed to pay them (the Banksters) back. BTW… there has been no real “Money” for a very, very long time. What we have been “programmed” to accept as “Money” is in reality DEBT! This is why NO BANK will ever provide the GAAP ledger showing you where the “Money” for your “Loan” came from….NEVER!

    Learn the truth about theREAL FRAUD here… http://www.4shared.com/zip/KJv6B_j0/FBI_Docs.html

    Wake the Hell up America! Iceland finally got it… Why can’t we?????

    Let’s stop clouding the issue here and get down to the REAL FRAUD which has been purpetrated upon the American People and in fact the WORLD PUBLIC by the WORLD BANKING INDUSTRY, and allowed to continue with the help and collusion of a captured (bought and paid for) government.

    • lvent says:

      Yode…and they never sold the loans..just interests in the notes…hundreds and hundreds of times per note! They and their investor friends insured themselves against the risk…and gambled on every aspect of the debt…including our failure they knew would come when they ran out of places to steal from…That’s when the Illuminati intentionally crashed the stock market..stole our wealth…blamed us for it…extorted the bailouts from the US TAXPAYERS…-and have been robbing us blind ever since to pay for their $700 trillion in unsustainable mortgage fraud debt…debt that can never be repaid….no matter his many homes they steal!…..(see the you tube video entitled ILLUMINATI CRASHED STOCK MARKET)

      • lvent says:

        I should add that they gambled on the mortgage debt FRAUD…THAT THEY CREATED…FROM THEIR MASSIVE COLLATERAL MORTGAGE FRAUD…THEIR DEBT…NOT OURS…AND THEY INSURED THEMSELVES TO THE HILT…AND SO DID THE INVESTORS…!

  11. Hannah says:

    I agree with William, but what you say would have more impact if it weren’t all capped.

  12. lvent says:

    NON-JUDICIAL FORECLOSURES ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND ILLEGAL!!!

  13. lvent says:

    Their crimes are massive and Obama just looks like a lousy liar and a crook himself for saying publicly that what they did was reckless and not criminal…He looks soo corrupt that the fact that he hasn’t been impeached yet incriminates Congress as well. If they are too corrupt to do their jobs..they must resign!

    • lvent says:

      BTW….I just saw that dirty lying @%$#$ ..Diana Olick. saying a deal with the banks for fraud….that allows the banks to do principle write downs for insolvent debt would be a good fix for massive mortgage fraud…..and massive UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT……!!!!! Diana O….lick is a disgrace to her fellow man..and a lousy traitor!!!

  14. William says:

    It is more likey that BOTH are true. The mortgage fraud was committed by a racket of ‘insiders’ consisting of ‘LOAN ORIGINATORS/BROKERS’, ‘BANK UNDERWRITERS/LOAN OFFICERS’, LAWYERS (real-estate lawyers, bank lawyers, criminal defense lawyers, etc etc etc). Today the ‘banks’ who were victims of the mortgage fraud racketeers (of which the BANKS EMPLOYEES WERE RACKETEERS, like a crooked bank teller who is the insider in a bank robbery). are now trying to COVER THEIR ASSETS. What is being covered up with slick double speak, is that the BANK EMPLOYEES WHO WERE THE MORTGAGE FRAUD RACKETEERS are now the BANK EMPLOYEES COVERING THEIR OWN ASSETS! POINTING THE FINGER AT THE BANK IS A VERY SHREWD LAWYER TRICK! THE BANKS ARE BEING VICTIMIZED TWICE BY THEIR EMPLOYEES WHO DISTRACT FROM THEIR TRYING TO CONCEAL THE REALITY OF THEIR MULTI-PLEDGING OF LOAN! DESTROYING THE BANKS, AND THE INVESTORS IN THE TRUSTS THAT THE BANKS SOLD COUNTERFEIT LOANS! THAT IS TO SAY, THAT THE BANKS WERE/ARE VICTIMS OF THEIR EMPLOYEES INVOLVEMENT IN THE MULTI-PLEDGING COUNTERFEIT MORTGAGE RACKETEERING ENTERPRISE. Those bank employees who are spearheading the cover up using FORECLOSURE FRAUD are either COVERING THEIR ASSETS to conceal; their COUNTERFEIT MORTGAGE RACKETEERING ENTERPRISE or are doing so as ACCESSORIES AFTER THE FACT! MORTAGE FRAUD AND FORECLOSURE FRAUDS ARE THE SAME CRIME! TO BE TREATED AS SUCH!

    • lvent says:

      The BANKS are the main culprits here…they were told what to do by their owners…the brokers/appraisers were just following orders from the banks…! They were feeding the beast..!

      • William says:

        Wrong Ivent. The Banks are ‘owned’ by you and me! The shareholders! The insiders, the racketeers employed by the banks are the ones calling the shots! The bank insider racketeering employees, working together with their partners in the racketeering enterprise, the loan brokers/originators, the appraisers, the LAWYERS, were working together in a finely greased fraud machine. These insiders DESTROYED THE BANKS! That is why the financial industry CRASHED! Becasue the insiders deferauded their own employers!, the BANKS! AND the TRUSTS that sold the counterfeit mortgages to! Then the INSURANCE companies who UNKNOWINGLY underwrote the counterfeit loans! Those insurance companies went belly up! Their share holders went BUST! So, it is the average man via share holding in the BANKS and INSURANCE companies, and the INVESTORS in the TRUSTS who were BROKE! The insider racketeers who are stil employed by the bansk are in control, and are now preserrving their rackets and the FUNDS they TOOK BY CONVERTING COUNTERFEIT MORTGAGES INTO COLD HARD CASH AND TRANSFERRING THAT CASH OFFSHORE! The banks were defrauded by their own EMPLOYEES!
        .

      • lvent says:

        Not true…William….THE BANKS OWE MORE THAN THEY ARE WORTH ….THEY ARE INSOLVENT ON PAPER…THEER BOOKS ARE COOKED WITH FRAUD AND MALFEASEANCE!…..THEIR REAL OWNERS THE WORKD BANK…STOLE ALL OF THE WEALTH…..THE DEBT OF THESE BANKS CAN NEVER BE REPAID….!

      • lvent says:

        The banks do owe us THE US TAXPAYERS unknown trillions…..they hid all of their ill gotten gains out of this country…It was the biggest robbery of our wealth in history…! They privatized our wealth in overseas accounts and invested our wealth in other countries….and socialized their massive insustainable debt onto MAINSTREET ……! THEY STOLE AND SPREAD OUR WEALTH AROUND THE WORLD!!!

      • lvent says:

        YOU WILLIAM ARE DEAD WRONG..!..WAY OFF THE MARK…! YOU ARE DRINKING THE DEBT CARTEL KOOL AID…!THAT IS THEIR $700 TRILLION IN MORTGAGE FRAUD DEBT NOT OURS! AND THEIR DEBT CAN NEVER BE REPAID….!

      • lvent says:

        They robbed our wealth William in the stock market crash of 2008…Then…we bailed the crooks out for our own robbery…..WHAT WE GOT FORCED DOWN OUR THROATS ARE BANKS WHO OWE Hundreds of trillions in debt ….their debt….that can never be repaid? You cant..REPAY OR RE YCLE INSOLVENT DEBT….SO..you walk away ….problem is……the banks owners at the FEDERAL RESERVE ARE HOLDING AMERICA HOSTAGE….FORCING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE INTO POVERTY…..WITH INFLATION/DEFLATION……AND BUYING WORTHLESS TREASURIES WITH THE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN ILL GOTTEN MORTGAGE PAYMENTS THE FED COLLECTS. EVERY MONTH!!! ABOLISH THE FED TYRANNY!

    • William says:

      Follow the money! The racketeers transfered the countefeit mortgage funds to their offshore accounts. ID theft, etc is part of their MO. High powered attorneys are co-racketeers providing ‘protection’ at ther highest levels of government/judicial system. These ‘attorneys’ are racket insiders, not lawyers, but racketeers involved during the fact. They have their offshore accounts to protect! follow the money! WAKE UP!

      • lvent says:

        The banksters and their minions created that wealth electronically from fraud..That is why the PLUTOCRATS are trying to create a MICROCHIPPED..CASHLESS SOCIETY…! For example..it started with the credit card and then ATM’s…now it is the virtual wallet and pay with the I phone..They even chip our drivers licenses and pets! The I pass is evil too…anything that allows you to pay or be identified by microchip is the devils work! WE NEED TO ABOLISH THE FED AND ISSUE OUR OWN CURRENCY…..THE VATICAN/ROTHSCHILD GOLD STANDARD THAT RON PAUL IS PROMOTING IS THE MONEYED ELITES EVIL END GAME PLAN!!!!! BEWARE THE MARK OF TGE BEAST!!!!

      • lvent says:

        BEWARE….OF THE VATICAN/ROTHSCHILD GOLD STANDARD BACKED DOLLAR…..! IT IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!!!! ONE STEP FROM THE MICROCHIP IN THE HAND….! WE NEED OUR OWN CURRENCY…BACKED BY US BANK NOTES BACKED BY OUR OWN. NATURAL RESOURCE REVENUE……!!! STATE BANKS ……!ABOLISH THE FEDERAL RESERVE….REJECT THEIR EVIL FIXES FOR FRAUD!!!….THEY CREATED THAT AND THIS ENTIRE EVIL PLAN….!!!! CAPITALISM IS NOT THE PROBLEM…..THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS THE PROBLEM…..THEY ARE HERE TO USHER IN THE ONE WORLD CURRENCY AND THE MARK OF THE BEAST!!! REJECT THEM!!

      • lvent says:

        WAKE UP AMERICA…..!!! STOP PAYING WITH THEIR MICROCHIP!!! UNCHIP YOUR PETS!!!! TELL THEM TO TAKE THE MICROCHIP OUT OF YOUR DL LICENSE!!!! IT IS A GREAT DECEPTION….THE MICROCHIP IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST!!!!!….PAY CASH FOR EVERYTHING….OR DONT BUY IT!!!! DONT PAY YOUR BILLS ONLINE AND BY PHONE!! DONT — USE SELF CHECK OUT!!!!

    • I vent is right the FRAUD is trillions of dollars !

      • lvent says:

        Thanks acmodspecialist! Mass deception is the devils handiwork..! The great deceivers are hidden everywhere..! As you can tell..I cant emphasize enough….people have to get to the truth or they will get caught in their deadly web of mass deception!

  15. ChrisYAHanWatcher4YAH says:

    See: DC Incorporation ACT! See: U.S. v U.S.A. Inc. These are TWO side of the SAME SWORD of the Criminal’s cAH Ba’al! Wake UP See: Hosea 4:6 “MY Peole are DESTROYED for Lack of Knowledge!”
    PRAY!!!

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