Maybe if the courts sanctioned the Foreclosure Mills and their clients for causing this mess they wouldn’t be broke…
Guess they rather charge the tax payers for the chaos these law firms caused instead…
Florida court system facing $72.3 million deficit
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — Florida’s court system has frozen hiring and is bracing for possible staff furloughs due to a $72.3 million deficit blamed on a shortfall in filing fees after mortgage foreclosure cases dramatically declined.
Supreme Court Chief Justice Charles Canady last week wrote letters released Monday to Gov. Rick Scott and legislative budget leaders asking for a $21.7 million supplemental appropriation and $42.5 million in budget transfers to make sure vital functions continue through June 30, when the fiscal year ends.
“To meet the current funding crisis, the judicial branch has already implemented an emergency branch-wide hiring freeze and an emergency operating budget freeze,” Canady wrote.
If those steps aren’t approved, furloughing court personnel would be next.
“Such furloughs would cause severe disruption in the functioning of the courts,” Canady warned.
Canady stressed that the deficit is due to a shortfall in anticipated court filing fees, “not from overspending by the judicial branch.”
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HELLO EVERYONE! I STII IN FORECLOSURE FOR 5TH YEAR!!!!
What I found on the States Courts Reserve Trust Funds is that it , the courts trust….is funded by the fee’s…nothing said of the fines. Now If one goes on google…there are various trust funds. It tells how the legislators ‘ borrow’ from the trusts, if needed, to balance the budget…to transfer funds to other trusts where needed….sounds like alot of ‘ fudging ‘ to me…I may be wrong. It just seems alot of flipping done back and forth.
In the funding problems in the judiciary…they claim the massive ‘ problems ‘ with Robo-signers and other irregularities in the foreclosures caused the slow down of foreclosures in the courts. WELL…if the foreclosures were already filed in the court system…..and a filing fee was paid…..that is where they should have stayed. Not removed to hide the fraud…that some seem to think as ‘ problems ‘…. Those with a court case assigned to it should have gone thru the system…than a stiff fine for every fraud would have added the funds they now seek. They sided with the banksters and fraud Mills…let them cry in their shot of scotch….close the doors of Justice…cause there was no justice for the homeowners. Must we play our violins now????? Better yet..our bagpipes?????
This is ominous in itself, but gets better. The fees they rely on are kept in a ”trust fund”. The article does not state who holds and manages the Trust Fund. I was just sort of wondering if this was used as an investment vehicle. Do the mortgages they are making judicial decisions on, help fund the Trust? This would be both ironic and scary. It would also call into question whether there is true impartiality in the court system. Florida judges have been especially highlighted as abusing homeowners in foreclosure proceedings.
We may want to find out more about this “Trust Fund”. This may explain why FL judges have been abused their discretion in many cases. If anybody can get specific info on this, please post. This may be more important than we may think. How many other states use the same funding mechanism for the courts?
As I understand it, the banksters have sixty days to produce proof of their statements. The banksters have the required proof, or they do not! Why are there cases older than sixty days, then?
Absent proof, the homeowner wins, in My view.
Just leaving something hanging around in the court system will not make it eventually become legal. It is legal, or it is NOT legal, period. In either case, finish it, and move on!
Where are the perjury fees, from the robo-signed documents? Aren’t those 10k$ EACH??
Master David…Yes, you are right…there is a time limit to produce proof. But one must remember the fraudsters don’t follow the same set of rules we, the homeowners, must obey. And the courts followed what the banksters requested and demanded. Do you see the connection??
I know a case that had a hearing, the first hearing, in June 2010. The papers showed nothing but copies of the original mortage….. This case was a dud…the judge said to Mills lawyer to re-summit the papers with proof of ownership. therefore, they didn’t have to pay another filing fee. Two weeks later the homeowner filed a motion to produce…a list of over 20 documents as proof. two weeks later the Mill asked for ‘ time to respond ‘..that was August 10, 2010…since than…NOTHING…not a word. So this is proof that the banks do as they please.
Master David,
To catch you up to speed, you can review the advertisement for this well-known company, DocX. That is where a lot of them were getting their proof. Read this advertisement in MortgageMag REAL carefully….
http://www.mortgagemag.com/guide/c004/c004850.htm
Greetings Tim,
I am not sure what I am seeing.
“Instant Public Records” sounds a bit suspicious to Me, as it does NOT say “Instant public records forms ready for filing”. The rest does not seem, on the surface, to be bad. “contacts, addresses, fees and requirements for more than 3,400 recording jurisdictions” actually sounds useful.
Google shows DOCX GETNET. One of their stated “services” is “Cure Defective Assignment“, which sounds impossible, from what I have read, here.
More searching, and there is “CF01___Recreate Entire Collateral File___$95.00 + TPC“, where “TPC” means “Third Party Costs”. (TPC includes postage, but not shipping. Howzat??)
The time limit to produce proper documents should still apply. Phony documents should be charged, judicially and financially, as FRAUD.
Am I missing something?
No, you’re spot on, except for assuming that these documents were considered fraud. They were, until recently accepted with open arms by the courts as being genuine.
Here is the legal paradox…If it is fraud, than the judges kicked a lot of folks out of their homes via fraud. If they admit that it is fraud, those same homeowners can stake a title claim on those same house (which may have since been resold), then you have an ad infinitum scenario.
I personally think that they should let that happen, to right the ship. But common sense is not a strong suit of the legislators or judiciary.
As a Floridian and in a foreclosure myself I wholeheatedly agree with every single post here. I say Nay to more money to the courts and start the layoffs now! Get rid of those judges they brought in out of retirement, paid huge fees to sit on the bench doing robo foreclosures. Ha! It’s not fun to lose a job and face the consequences of a lender in foreclosure. Who knows, we may see some of those names appearing on Lis Pendens who worked to put people out of their own homes! I say Karma is sweet revenge!
sweet revenge will be storming thebastille!!
These comments add up to a budget surplus , their lack of basic math skills are small compared to their ethics
and lack of courage to uphold the law . Its time to storm the Bastille !
Wait…the courts in Florida had their chance to ‘ gain ‘ more money….every fraud affidavit that went thru into the courts..should have carried a stiff fine…no second chance. Also many foreclosure lawyers were told by the Judge to re-summit the proper papers to prove ownership…this done without having to pay another filing fee….that case should have been dismissed and a new case re-done with another filing fee paid. Many ways the courts could have, should have.. used the fines since all foreclosures were to be in complete documention order before filing the case in court. This they did not do. What about all the frauds proven in court…no stiff fines for that either? What about lying to the court? Now the courts want more money to keep the doors open? Seek it from the banksters…the courts sided with the criminals and threw justice in the trash.
To say the $72.3 million deficit is blamed on a shortage in filing fees after mortgages for cases dramatically declined….excuse me…but does that not sound like a PONZI SCHEME? What they planned for the future to bring in…to pay for what was done in the past….or to even rely on the future ‘ business ‘….that’s what Madoff did. Am I on the wrong track or what? Madoff fell short of funds too… he depended on furture business..and it dramatically declined.
Marilyn, you are such a “bad” girl! You already told all what was bubbling in my chest! Just one more sentence: how about of ALL those ‘Jane’, ‘Doy’, ‘Unknown Husbands” and ‘Unknown Tennants’??? They all SERVED by Complaints & Summons but FILING FEES PAID only for Complaint against real Defendant…. And how about FINES for filing the FRIVOLOUS CASES??? If our Cases could be EVALUATED and sorted out by Legal Aid, for example, BEFORE filing in Court, then our Honorable Courts forced to have a few month vacations, because it will be NOTHING TO DO AT ALL. Find the way to check Cases’ documents BEFORE filing. If you will: the FORECLOSURE PROBLEM will be SOLVED in no time! My Case No.; 16-2009-CA-011566 in the Duval County Courthouse, Jacksonville, Fl has NO PLAINTIFF, NO STANDING, moreover, IT BARRED BY STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS. However, it is in “PROCEEDING” for almost TWO years. Why not? Opposing Lawyers have their FEES, Judges have SALARIES (paid by TAXES), Security Officers have salaries for throwing away borrowers (Pro Se) from the Court. Please, open this Case and see by yourselves what is doing the Mouse when the Cat is sleeping….
Maria….LOL…unknown tentant # 1..unknown tentant # 2…# 3, # 4….( Golly, there must be more people living in that one bedroom house…LOL.)..look at Lee County in Florida…those judges have to be the bottom of the ‘ crop ‘….they make up their own rules …and talk to responents lawyer like they are the criminals….Now that House of Justice must be in the poor house….cause they favor the banks..no matter what. Thank God for miracles…my daughter is not in that county….
Ya…some say I am a bad girl…I say it like it is….like it or not. The courts need not be counting dollars in order to function….especially in the foreclosures….rampant fraud….think what got past the judges before the people starting screaming ” FRAUD ‘….does that not shake ones brain?
The state knew that the forelcosures were big revenue for them. This is totally disgraceful. They knew that the misery that the banks put the people through would be a money maker and they depended on that. In my opinion they were counting on millions of homes being foreclosed, and the horrible, horrible people who brought the fraud to light are causing a shortfall of money. Kathryn is correct they should go after MERS, but my guesss is they won’t do this because it is easier money for foreclosures that it is to try to collect from MERS. God help us all.
What in God’s name is wrong with the idiots in this state? Their circular logic makes me ill. And why is everyone so afraid of collecting money FROM THOSE WHO STOLE IT?? –> entities such as foreclosure mill attorneys, MERS, LPS, investment banks who have financially ruined not only Americans but many people around the world in a ripple effect.
Who is the man (men?) behind the curtain? And how can he be so scary that even our federal government tiptoes around him and dares not whisper a word of retribution for all the wreckage and ruination?
I would love to chase this chain of proximate cause deep into the rathole to find the Big Rat behind it all.
J.A., you are amazing! It’s right: THIS IS VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND: WHO IS MOCKERING AT THE FORECLOSURE JUSTICE AND WHO IS REALLY IDIOTS???
THE MEANINGFUL SIGNIFICANCE OF THE SENIOR JUDGES’ FACES ARE INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL THEIR INTELLECT! See my Case mentioned above…
Tell them to go collect the revenue shortage from MERS
So let me get this correct, they are living on filing fees from foreclosures, but the fees were increased about in 2009, what did they do before that? I call bull crap