Foreclosure Complaint? Stand By for New Toll-Free Number
It probably won’t include “1-800-ROBO,” but big banks are preparing to launch a toll-free number to find consumers harmed by problems in foreclosure processing.
The effort to find consumers is an outgrowth of the controversy over so-called robo-signing and other problematic foreclosure practices. Last spring, regulators ordered major banks and thrifts to overhaul their foreclosure practices, finding that 14 lenders filed foreclosures with improper documentation and lacked sufficient staff to properly handle distressed borrowers. The banks have now picked independent consultants to identify any borrowers who were harmed by foreclosure-processing problems.
The regulators have decided to require that banks set up a single process for consumers who want a review of their case, rather than a separate one for each mortgage company. Homeowners can request a review if their foreclosure happened on a primary residence in 2009 or 2010. The outreach campaign will also include a joint website and an advertising campaign. It’s expected to be launched in the coming weeks, Acting Comptroller of the Currency John Walsh said Monday at a conference in Washington held by the American Banker newspaper.
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Can’t wait to see how this isn’t going to work…
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Ivent and all
I read Heaven.org. I agree there is a plan in progress but That is only a part of the plan.
It started back in 1901 when vice president theodore roosevelt took office.
Everyone reading that article about
social progressivism by Jon Christian Ryder)
will understand that these fraudlent foreclosures are a small part of the plan
and if you want to know how it is planned that you and your kids and grandkids have no food to eat
read it
Know the facts of the history of our country.
@I VENT
read the whole article and see what they say how would like us to meet our demise early probably in a similar way as your grand parents.
That’s right marilyn. Truly evil all of it..The question I ask is who said they could play God..? That is what makes me soo mad…Too much Government control is no good…they are acting like traitors,this is truly a tyranny that is oppressing its people….that is precisely the reason we were given a Contitution and a Bill of Rights by the founding fathers… to protect us from them….and why we have the right to keep and bear arms…to protect ourselves from them….I heard on MSNBC that Herman Cain won the Straw Poll down in Fla…I really like that statement. Rick Perry, the executioner only got 14% and the freemason Ron Paul only got 10%………Now I thinK Michigan voted for Romney…..that scares me…Whoever gets nominated, the people better make all candidates sign a legal binding contract with WE THE PEOPLE….that protects us from them or we are all doomed….We can’t forget, it is the NWO inside power structure that needs to be removed first and foremost….in CONgress and at the White House……ABOLISH THE FED SHOULD BE FIRST LINE ON THAT CONTRACT…THAT WAS THE BEGINING OF ALL OF THIS HORROR..
The Vatican,/Jesuit/ U.N,/ NWO appointed themselves SUPREME TRUSTEE for the worlds wealth, land and resources and now they want to own and control the people…..Who agreed to that? They want all of us to “think” we have no rights and we have owners…that is all a BIG MANUFACTURED LIE….They deceive, lie and steal….that is all they ever done…They are investors and that is all they are…..THE ARE NOT OWNERS OF WE THE PEOPLE OR OUR HOMES OUR WEALTH…..THEY ARE THEIVES….they infiltrated America with traitors who are members of their BIG CLUB or they corrupted and bought the Politicians, the Media, the Legal System…Time to exert our Constitutional Rights before they steal those….. and throw them all out of America….!
! Ivent and all
that book tells the history the New Deal, The forming of the Federal reserve etc
in very clear easy to read terms. One statement in the book attributed to
Nikita Khrushchev told the American people that “…our firm conviction is that sooner of later Capitalism will give way to Socialism. Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you.” Later, he amended his statement, adding that the Soviets would not beat America in battle, but that :…the United States will eventually fly the communist flag—the American people will hoist it themselves.”
Everybody read that article. Yhe worst is yet to come unless we unite
Try this link..If it does not work because the hid it, Google the words on-heaven.org.it is their evil Jesuit philosophy…
http://one-heaven.org/covenant/heaven_0001.htm
The link works! Now read the Pactum De Singularis Caelum covenant……Covenant of the one heaven… and read…….#4 Supreme Conveyance of All Property……
That is right on marilyn….this evil plan and its end game are staring us right in the face…this evil NWO end game plan all started on 9/11…
We could probably all agree that they snuck all of this in under our radar…Now America is waking up and we can allow no more of this Totalitarian agenda…..
@ e tolle, Carie, Mario Kenny, Johngalt, Lies are all they tell, and all of you and you will see how the summary of how this massive foreclosure fraud came about and how urgent to Petition Obama now to uphold Art 1 Para 10 Cl 1 of the Constitution. and declare or mortgages where the bank has only lent their credit Ultra Vires.
@Marilyn A, I vent Housemanrob tim bryant, Michael ,Lisa, Damien , Neil and Matt
This morning I found a website “Give us Liberty” that included a writing called “(stealing a nation the isms of social progressivism by Jon Christian Ryder) which gives a good summary of how we arrived at this point in our Nations life.
It makes you aware of the urgency of Petitioning President Obama by the millions of us before we are all thrown overboard.
marilyn and everyone…..CNN just reported 80 protesters arrested on WALL STREET….CNN reported police are cracking down on protesters…..OUTRAGEOUS…!!! THIS IS OUR GOVERNMENT! HORRIBLE!….CNN said they the protesters are there to point out that the economic crisis is due to Wall Street…..That book sounds interesting marilyn, I was listening to Thom Hartmanns radio show the other day and Thom had a discussion about Thomas Payne and how he was a progressive….and how his writilngs were very inflluential and a sort of road map to in how we got here today.. One of his books in particular mirror the New Deal….. F.D.R. it seems was setting us up for this commie agenda with his socialist programs…and now we are on the road to communism and their final agenda is TOTALITARIANISM….An attorney told me this is true….the Federal Government wants to own all of our homes….I heard a report about this on CNBC…that the Federal Government become the biggest holder of land in the world….They are stealing AMERICA under the guise of debt that we do not owe…WALL STREET OWES THE 140 TRILLION IN UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT, THEY CREATED IT BY FRAUD…OVERLEVERAGING AND OVERSPECULATING….THIS IS AN ILLEGAL TYRANNY….WE SHOULD ALL HEAD TO D.C….AND THROW THEM ALL OUT..!.
@Ivent
I always thought FDR was a good president. Not when you read this book.
It is really frightening to see how long this plan of changing our democracy into
socialism or communism. and the one world order has been existence, since 1901.
Ivent please read the article. All the things destroying our Constitution is part of the plan.
Yes marilyn, FDR was setting America up for what we are all living right now..Socialism is just one step from Communism and then from there is it Totalitarianism….I have done alot of reading on all of this throughout the years……I have been told by a very reputable source that this whole evil plan we are living right now…. really got rolling after this evil empire assassinated J.F.K.. The reason why we are all here in this terrible place is because the TRUTH NEVER GOT OUT ABOUT WHO ASSASSIINATED JFK…….Now the TRUTH is coming out about everything including 9/11 because of some very determined honest Americans and even foreign Governments are talking the TRUTH and believe this evil empire has gotten way out of control…They ruled by secrecy for decades and now the TRUTH needs to be known to everyone…this is no conspiracy theory…..this is a massive conspiracy to overthrow American freedom and democracy by the NWO/U.N./SMOM/VATICAN/JESUITS via their perps……the Illuminati who control media, finance, law, Government but they do not own it……they steal….with BIG LIES……and a lot of media manipulation……propaganda journalism……and they dumb us down in school from the truth……It is up to all of us to unite and spread the knowledge by sharing the truth!
@ I vent
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Police arrested about 80 demonstrators near the New York Stock Exchange on Saturday as they marched through lower Manhattan. The “Occupy Wall Street” protest is entering its second week. Several hundred protesters have been camped out at New York’s private …
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Several hundred marchers wound their way through the streets of lower Manhattan on Saturday in the latest of a string of protests over the past week against what demonstrators saw as corporate greed
I was watching a documentary on RT NEWS about the downfall of GM……A former GM employee really put things in a nutshell…..Because people are unemployed or underemployed in America, the Government(s) are forcing the people to pay more tax and the Government(s) are using that money to make the world go round……….I think Obama calls that spreading the wealth around….DESPICABLE!!!!!! THROW THEM OUT PEOPLE!!! THEY ARE ROBBING ALL OF US OF EVERTHING TO PAY FOR THE 140 TRILLION IN COLLATERAL FRAUD COMMITTED BY WALL STREET AND JSUT LIKE 9/11 IT WAS ALL ALLOWED BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT…….THIS WAS A IS A HITLER PLAN PLANNED AND COMMITTED BY THE SAME BUNCH AS THE LAST GREAT DEPRESSION…….BUT THIS IS THE LAST GREAT DEPRESSION ON STEROIDS……EXPONENTIAL MORTGAGE COLLATERAL FRAUD..140 TRILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT THAT WALL STREET HAS CREATED OUT OF THIN AIR AND WALL STREET OWES..THIS WAS COMMITTED .BY THE NWO PERPS ON WALL STREET…PLANNED AND INSTITUTED BY THEIR NWO ORDER MINIONS AND COHORTS IN CONGRESS AND AT THE WHITE HO– USE…..
@ Marilyn A and housmanrob
At 6 PM est when I tried to post my comment this webpage was blocked
I take my vitamins every day, eat organic food, try eliminating junk except Breyers Icecream.
I want to be around when we get these fraudsters.
That is why I think we have to Petition President Obama NOW -for him to uphold Art. 1 Para 10 /cl 1
of the US Constitution.
No matter what our condition we can sign that Petition and hopefully millions will..
I don’t know what conversations went on between the Government, The US Treasury and the Banks
but I know it is the Law of the Land that a Bank cannot lend their credit.
and the Government cannot change the obligations of Contracts making you think you have a contract
with the US Treasury when in reality you have an Ultra Vire contract with a Bank
Right on marilyn! We The People must exert our Constitutional Rights….Obama is a Constitutional Law Scholar…he knows the truth but he has owners just like Congress…I was watching Bill Maher tonight on HBO he had on great guests like Michael Moore who said that it is both parties…they are all useless..Michael Moore said how many more foreclosures, people will be thrown out of their homes and how many more people must die because they don’t have healthcare in this country before the people rise up..? …One of his guests was a rock musician from Chicago who said, I am not behind any of these politicians, I am behind the People of Madison and the People marching on Wall Street…Wall Street owns the politicians and they don’t give a damn about any of us….I believe the tipping point is coming very soon. Half the country is living below the poverty line while we are all being forced to pay for the best Health Care for these Politicians when we cannot afford health insurance for our own families…? What happened to Gabby Giffords was horrible, but she had the best healthcare in the world, how many people in America get shot on the streets everyday and have no healthcare insurance and don’t have a chance? They are evaluated for cost of treatment and if that is to high, they tell people they can’t save them and ask the tormented family members if they would like to donate their organs….They keep people alive just until they find a person who needs an organ donated….This country has become a real effing immoral hell hole. Like hospice, I have seen first hand what the Government does to old people on medicare….it was illegal and immoral for Kevorkian to do what they did to my Grandparents…Did you know if the doctor decides you may have only 6 months to live, they can tell the family they can have hospice come in and kill off their loved one….they starve you to death……and put you down like an animal, they slowly drug you to death….It was the most horrible, undignified thing I have ever seen……I will never forget what I witnessed as long as I live..they put my Grandfather on psychotic meds….when I caught what they were doing…I was not allowed back in that house until they put him in a coma….then it was too late…he fought them every step of the way..he did not want to die..his kids, not me, and his doctor made this decision for him,,, he did not make this decision…..There are horrible people running America….Sarah Palin was not kidding when she talked about Government run healthcare would have death panels and they want to kill Grandma….this is all true now if you are on medicare….The Government or no one should ever be allowed to make the decision for you whether you should live or die…..my Grandfather was not crazy he was just lonely and grieving the loss of his wife of 70 years…they killed him almost 6 months to the day they killed my Grandma..because his kids wanted to get on with their lives….I want to see how they feel when hospice comes for them…
Hospice is a nice word for death squad…don’t be fooled…there is nothing dignified about what the Government does when they come in to do away with your loved ones and it is all very deceptive….They actually come to your home with diapers to put on you for when they finally poison you to death, so you don’t mess the sheets.. no, thank you … I am a Christian and only God can decide that..No doctor can say for sure you have 6 months to live….they think they are God now?.The doctors are no more than carrying out executions for the Government, just like the judges are doing to homeowners in fraudclosure court……
I vent…I tried to tell you what I thought of hospice and the site would not take the comment….but I still have the voice to tell others on my own.
i vent it is true!!! my dad had a triple by pass and his brain never recovered from the anesthesia. we have to put him in an ALF adult living facility to care for him. my mom died 11 years ago. while cleaning hisapt i found her medical records. ok she had cancer and went in the hospital for sob and flank pain. she had kidney and lung cancer but she didnt ask to die in 1 week. the records were because back in 200o i wanted to sue the hospital for a “expected unespected death” but i broke my ankle 3 days after her funeral and never followed through so here i am reading her record. they started morphine iv on her without sharing with the whole family. dont even think my fsather new what morphine meant , meant she was going to die. she was talking friday night. she didnt need morphine what death squad did that to her??? on fri june 30th she was taling and on july 4th dead. wow no closure. but i did nott hink it was right for them to put her in a coma. its sick whats happening. my dads hospital bill for 25k in lab bils for 5 days in hospital. yes we are stressed from everywhere. they are starting to arrest the protesters in ny so sad
please see video
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173&q=freedom+to+fascism&pr=goog-sl
Lies is all they tell
In response to your reference about not seeing anything but a small blurb about the Wall Street Protesters,tonight about 12 30 AM when I got my computer on again MSNBC had a lead story on 80 protesters arrested on Saturday and accuse the police of abusive tactics.
Now it is 1 38 AM and it is off the Msnbc front page and I could not find it anywhere.
marilyn, that is what they do….leak out little parts and if you are in the right place at the right time you catch it….They are arresting people down there? That figures.
they are letting other people who are current only know a small amount they do not want them to get wind of the fraud that is going on. here is some good news http://livinglies.wordpress.com/2011/09/25/kentucky-ag-joins-trend-going-after-the-banks/
@Marilyn A
I need you to be behind my back if someone pushes me down
I know I am right about this issue. I have been thru the mill with these courts.
The bankruptcy judge knew I was right about the issue being a Federal Question under our Constitution.
The Federal Judge when he read and accepted my Petition in Federal Court knew this issue.
That the power and politics of the Banking industry were able to convince the Judge to remand the case
after almost three months in Federal Court by them claiming “she wants to change the banking system”
I would like to have a cup of tea with Judge Stanton, to see what he now believes about the Banking system in
view of all the havoc it has wrecked on our Nation.
He would have enjoyed meeting me years back when I was young and pretty now I am getting close to
toppling in with a cane.
hi everyone i was reading post all day but unable to comment form my cell phone. home now from some family time out for soccer and the mall i can comment and we can plan. i stopped at publix ( @ I vent its florida’s jewel )
i wa shocked to find in the business section 3 article . they have a mortgage broker waiting for sentencing for straw buying ( POPS OUT AT YA ON MY APPRAISAL) , about fannie/freddies ineptiitude, and BFA pushing through foreclosres despite robosigning admittavnce in same paper from fannie freddie. i am just in a quandry here folks. we have blatant fraud yet nothing being done. folks are still on foreclosure hamlet talking about motions and finding the PSA’s yet i sit here 1 year out from wells fargo telling me NOT to pay my mortgage. an oral contract that causes promissory estopel and null and voids a contract. yet can not find one florida lawyer i can aford to go after wells fargo. i am accused of wanting a free home. NO! i want justice. i have tried to get a modification of my mortgage that i can afford. falsifiying my mortgage application inceasing my monthly income by 700 bucks, by not going over that 1k they were right in their teaching. the home owner would not notice . and lets not forget the god awful fraudulent appraisal with straw buyers and blatant flipped homes. thats just the tip ya’all. wells fargo has managed to lose paper work every time i have sent them anything. they have managed to move my file out of review when i qualified for a hamp loan.. and then that brings us to my forclosure, dual track, NOD and my contact marco rubois office in orlando faxing info from wells fargo to him. this week i received 3 letters from wells fargo from the same department (loss mitigation) from 3 different computers and just yesterday 2 more letters from the same person?? i feel as fustrated as everyone and do not know where to go. can not afford a lawyer so i do not know how to defend my home.
please see this post its petition
https://4closurefraud.org/2011/09/22/kentucky-ag-jack-conway-join-me-on-this-statement-there-should-be-absolutely-no-criminal-or-civil-immunity-given-to-banks-for-activity-that-has-not-yet-been-investigated
when i approached the men from marco rubios office and told them about wells fargo telling me “NOT” to pay my mortgage. he made a comment i heard that before. which makes me think marco rubio is well aware of these tactics. to cause a “psuedo default” so they can foreclose and collect their long awaited CDS insurance . yet did not think we would stay in our house and that their oral contract call out causes promissory estopel null and voids a contract. we are way to dumd of people to figure that out. why would nknow somehting like that???? yet i can not find a lawyer to help me.
we need all crimes from all banks reported. please call marco rubios office in orlando if you are a florida resident going through this. 407-254-2573 fax 407-423-0941. marco rubio is our senator from miami. he was a big advocate for us to fight property tax increases. please call and then they will fax you a letter you sign for privacy. then you can fax all your info from the bank and tell them your story. wells fargo tried to contact me but with out a sign written statement removing me from foreclosure i could not deal with them personally with out counsel. they WELLS FARGO should know that. so i asked my case to sent to the OCC because what they have done to me and my family trying to collect their money (CDS) is unreal they are not just hurting me but i have 3 kids that live in my home. thank you fro being here for me to vent to i am just so stressed about all this.
This is a war on all of us,I read at a website that in this part of their evil plan they are attacking us mentally, physically and spiritually…in order to try and weaken us…..and break down our will…..How many have already lost everything? People cannot even afford to buy much food….They are bound and determined to make us believe we are broke by using the sneaky financial terror tactics of inflation and deflation…..The founding fathers warned us, but they hid it from all us……..We should all be marching on D.C. and sit in until they all resign…….if the hippies in the 60’s managed it, they had no money, so can we…..!
LOL..OMG…..And you want me to be behind you if someone pushed you down? Maybe it would be better I was in front of you and knocked them down. I just know I have some years on you…and it may be many eyars…don’t use a cane yet….just carry one for protection….LOL but I do have a billy club…my father was on the police force and that is what I got when he passed away….does that tell you something?????? The others got treasures and money…..
You know Marilyn, through the years I have had many mountains to climb, and somehow I climbed them. Not really sure how I did it but I did. I have had a hard life but a good life and I always looked at all problems as an experience. My Dad was the one that gave me a strong backbone and strong shoulders to carry my burdens……that is the way I am to this day. I am in this fight to help everyone…I feel we are only strangers till we meet…..but what we are facing today will take everyone, not just people facing foreclosures….. everyone is included in this massive crime done to our country….we must push forward to rid the evil that has harmed all people. Empires fail and evil will fail…..there is bigger powers watching….when the time is right that power will come…and no evil will stop it…..as you see more each day is in our favor….we are climbing that mountain and are gaining….each step takes us further…get a cane so you can stand with us….LOL
Expressed very well! I am not using a cane yet, but I’m sure the way they are beating me down, it won’t be long. Seriously, I have had bronchitis for 3 weeks now and even after meds still can’t kick it. It is the stress. If miracles do happen and God saw fit to let me prevail, I would probably immediately fall over dead from something or another due to the stress! I know I’m not alone.
KATHERYN AND MARILYN L……Katheryn I meant my comment for Marilyn L….but if it helped you that makes me feel good…it was meant for you too……The cane part was for Marilyn L…she has lost her beauty of youth and has the hots for some judge in her golden years and would like to have a cup of tea with him….maybe some crumpets also. I, myself, would rather take a trip to Vegas than a cheap cup of tea…..LOL…I am past that frugal stage…….
The judges know damned well the whole system is a criminal sham…they just keep going along with everything to climb up the ladder and get perks… they won’t bite the hand that allowed them to get there…..these judges only get their position on the bench by ageeing to rule and dictate for their owners and criminal friends….An attorney told me if the judges are too sympathetic to homeowners they get replaced….We don’t elect them either..Judges appointments are all politics and so are fraudclosures…..these judges were all attorneys at one time and did favors along the way to get there…..An attorney told me, you could get lucky and get a clear title but the chances of that are the same as winning the lottery…Now I don’t really believe that, I believe the people must exert their constitutional rights, INDIVISIBLY..AS ONE…..That is why we need to form an universal front…where we all do the same thing at the same time,….like deed our homes to our neighbors and they deed theirs to us…….We need to create chaos…and we need to do this indivisibly….Just like what Matt Taibi said in that Rolling Stone article last Fall….everyone should stop paying the mortgage and stop worrying about the damned credit score, we are not a number…that is precisely what they did to the Jews in Nazi Germany….I saw a headline today that TransUnion credit bureau is up for sale…..Half the country is living below the poverty line thanks to people who are STILL PAYING THE MORTGAGE….they are allowing this terrorism to continue..BECA– USE OF FEAR…..THEY FEAR THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT..THEY FEAR THEY WON’T BE ABLE TO BORROW MONEY FROM THESE CROOKS WHO SET THE COUNTRY UP TO FAIL…AND ROBBED THEM…..NOW THAT IS OPPRESSION!!!!…..The people who are still paying are the one’s who are harming all of the rest of us….They don’t realize no one is safe from this NWO tyranny…and they are acting like cowards and aiding and abetting thier own planned demise…
The American people believe the lie that someone is owed this money and it is immoral to stop paying the mortgage and their bills…even though they have no idea where those payments are going..everything they were told to believe believe is the opposite…..This was a big double cross..that mortgage money is going to our enemies….that hate our freedom and democracy and want to bankrupt America to steal our Constitution, our Bill of Rights and our National Sovereignty….! Too many people are still brainwashed…and can’t allow themselves to believe this can be true….Like Dylan Ratigan said, first you get really screwed. then you find out the truth…then you get really pissed…The sad truth is people don’t realize that this economy is getting worse, and that is intentional…Obama and all of the politicians all having ruling elite owners and are all complete traitors and cowards….they have thrown The United States of America under the bus and only WE THE PEOPLE can save it…..but we can only do this as one nation…one people…exerting our Constitutional Rights…or we are done….we will all be living under a one world Global Tyranny and no one will want to live under that…once that happens it will take another full blown Revolutionary War and the outcome of that would be very uncertain..If we allow them to get away with this, stealing everything from the people…what will come next will be unbearable….We need to march on Washington…as one nation…..and sit in until they all resign…and no one gets in office without signging a legal contract with us….one act of treason by any of them and, they must resign….ABOLISH THE FED……
I vent….Do you remember reading of the guy who put a lien on his own house and recorded it ? Just wonder…how did that work? Like did he use the cost of the home…since it was paid for…and in foreclosure….as the amount on the lien? Sounds like something to look into…
@Ivent and Marilyn A
Did you ever hear the saying-
who has the money has the power
The US Treasury has the money
so they run the show and will decide
what you can or cannot get.
Yeah marilyn, they have control of OUR MONEY….Some man called into Thom Hartmans radio show and said that he would feel safer of our SS money and our Medicare were put in a private swiss bank…..It probably all ends up being rerouted there anyways…There is soo much deception about what they do with our wealth..and where our tax money really goes……..It is criminal..I know the Federal Income Tax money goes right to Rome. I saw that many months ago on a you tube video called 25 facts everyone should know…We are all commodities via our birth certificate number and they buy sell and trade off of all us like we are cattle….The U.N. declared we are all human capital in the 1970’s….
@ i vent yes the birth certificate it os a compicated situation i met guy on here once named keith crawford he knows alot about this situation and tells us how to get our money from the feds. email him riceowlex@gmail.com i did not understand it seems science fiction to me. let us know what you find out.
LIES IS ALL THEY TELL SAY…..So it was you who wrote that comment some time back…you gave me his e-mail and I asked him what he meant by what he told you…BUT when he answered me I could not find who gave me his e-mail info…NOW I will look up his answer cause it has been some time and I want to give correctly what he said…Some may be that on all important documents our names are all in capital letters….let me look up old e-mails….will get back to you….
I know of a goup of attorneys from Illinois who tried to get all of us free and clear titles because of this birth certificate thing…the judge told them no way…..this is going to go on an individual basis…
LIES IS ALL……i could not find his reply but I will get back to that…BUT FOR RIGHT NOW…I WENT ON GOOGLE TO SEARCH FOR…WHY ARE ALL THE NAMES IN CAPITAL LETTERS ON CERTIFICATES ? AND I LOOKED UP TO THE SCREEN AND CLICKED ENTER AND REAL QUICK SOMETHING TYPED OUT AND IT WAS NOT WHAT I TYPED….YOU WILL NEVER BELIEVE THIS….” WHY IS MY POOP GREENERS ON ………..THAT IS WHAT IT SAYS…IT IS STILL THERE…NOW DOES THAT LOOK LIKE WHAT I TYPED? THIS IS FREAKING ME OUT…THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS……NOT EVEN COMPLETE…..AND NO ONE HAS — USE THIS COMPUTER BUT ME FOR AT LEAST A WEEK….CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME?
I vent……Could that guy calling Thom Hartmans radio show…expressing his opinion on feeling safer if our SS money and Medicare were put in a private Swiss Bank….could that be the BIS bank. in Basle Switzerland ? .which is not really a bank at all…I would say it is a holding bank…it is private but calls itself a ‘ bank ‘…….it is a place to stay away from home ….private living quarters and resturant. There is an interesting story on the internet of the mystery of it. The mystery may be where they hide their large quanties of money….be to invest it or just watch it grow…..not sure…but it does no banking and is private for members.
@ Ivent and Marilyn A
Your mortage contracts you had were not with the US Treasury.
If it were your contracts were with the US Treasury
since they have lawful money to lend would be good
but Your mortgage contracts were with a Bank
who didn’t have lawful money to lend you
and the bank could only lend their credit, illegal by our Constitution
That the Treasury have close connections with the Banks and visa versa
gives the Treasury the motive to cover up the fraud at the banks.
Marilyn L…That is what I thought….that the banks lent ‘ their credit ‘..unlawful. money..and after they got our signature .(..take me from there..)..did they use the signature to get the money from the U S Treasury? Is that how it went.? I read this and so much other stuff…my brain needs some new spark plugs……So the contracts were with the bank…but illegal with unlawful money..(credit) so the U S Treasury backed the banks up to cover up the fraud. So at that point the banks still owned the loans? Just tell us where I am off key.
! Ivent and Marilyn A
When you write a check without having the money in an account to cover it,
even if you could get it from your rich uncle including uncle Sam at some point after the check is written
it is called kiting and illegal.
In the interim time frame between the banks writing the mortgge checks and the third party giving or lending them the money, the only thing the bank had to lend was their credit and that according to our Constitution is illegal.
That is right marilyn, the same laws apply with a note as with a check……we were scammed….Hitler has been described as a mad paper hanger from Linz who rose to power under these same circumstances….The Fed is printing money like a mad counterfeiting ring to cover for all of WALL STREETS debt….and CONgress and the Obama administration are doing nothing at all to stop this……….There is one thing that Rick Perry has said that he was right about, if the Obama Adm. continues to allow the money printing by the Fed, that can be considered an act of treason….That is exactly what is going on….A ton of lies and manipulation to cover up for the crimes of Wall Street and their owners..and the fact that our homes were paid for by all of us at Origination….the ruling elite NWO are trying to take America over without ever firing a shot, another Inside Job is at work here….called FORECLOSUREGATE….the U.S GOVERNMENT IS ALLOWING THEM TO BANKRUPT ALL OF US….AMERICA IS NOT BROKE….WALL STREET AND THE IMF, AND THE WORLD BANK RANG US UP……BACKED BY TAXPAYER DOLLARS..140 TRILLION IN COLLATERAL FRAUD….IT IS THEIR BILL, THEY WERE ALLOWED TO CREATE IT OFF OF OUR BACKS……AND THE U.S. GOVERNMENT ALLOWED THIS AND IS NOW ALL IN ON THIS COVER UP…………LOU DOBBS SAID IT 3 YEARS AGO WHEN HE WAS STILL ON CNN….THEY ROBBED YOU BLIND AMERICA, I DON’T KNOW WHY YOU ARE NOT ALL MARCHING IN THE STREETS RIGHT NOW…..!!! THEN HE GOT CANNED FROM CNN..
LOU DOBBS WAS REFERING TO THE INTENTIONAL STOCK MARKET CRASH…..LOU DOBBS SAID THEY ROBBED US OF OUR WEALTH….ON WORLDWIDE TV….AND NOBODY GOT IT,, and many still don’t…. ….
@ivent in the st pete times today there was a small bottom of the page report on protesters in new york city. you can miss it if you werent look for it.
lies is all they tell, I’ll bet! The cover-up continues of the the biggest Ponzi Scheme Swindle and Heist of Mainstreet by Wall Street to the ruling elite investors……And we really should DEMAND TO KNOW WHERE DID ALL THAT MORTGAGE MONEY GO IF THEY LENT US NO MONEY?…..AND WE THE PEOPLE FUNDED THE WHOLE PONZI SCHEME…….The Movie Wall Street money never sleeps stated that it was the WALL STREET PONZI SCHEME was the biggest transfer of wealth from MAINSTREET TO WALL STREET IN HISTORY….THAT MOVIE STATED THAT THEY STOLE AND PRIVATIZED OUR WEALTH AND SOCIALIZED ALL OF THE DEBT THEY CREATED ON TO ALL OF US! WE THE PEOPLE WERE SWINDLED OUT OF EVERYTHING UNDER THE GUISE OF PAYING A MORTGAGE! THESE CRIMINALS ARE STILL RUNNING THE COUNTRY…I also read that 9/11 was their attempt to cover up this entire evil plan and distract us from this HEIST with a fake war on terror and a war with Iraq….Evil and Despicable….The whole country should head directly to D.C……AND DEMAND ALL OF THEM RESIGN…..IMMEDIATELY….!
Marilyn L… You are correct……lending on their credit is illegal….. I believe I read that on Neil’s site……maybe you were making the comment……you see Marilyn ….I follow you wherever you go. LOL
I keep flipping back to read what you guys are discussing as I sit here trying hard to put my response to BOA’s piece of garbage answers in the proper legal pleading form as instructed by the judge. I agree with the consitutional challenge presented by ML but has anyone been successful putting it forward in court? What really amuses me, although I’m not finding any of it at all funny, is the fact that they are paying 3 law firms to defend as well as foreclose on one little old middle aged lady with no legal experience whatsoever. Where is the justice in that? Isn’t there something we can all get together and do to fight these criminals? I honestly do not think that the average person on the street has a clue that their tax dollars have gone into the pockets of fraud street and the banks.
The main thing the people should know is none of these pretender lenders ever lent us any money…at all. It was all a big sham and a big fraud….A BIG LIE…..THE U.S TREASURY DEPT…AND THE U.S. GOVERNMENT ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN…..AND THEY ARE COVERING THIS UP FOR WALL STREET, THE IMF AND THE WORLD BANK…..WHO ARE ALL OWNED BY THE VATICAN U.N./NWO….
When I was denied the loan mod, the servicer told me I was denied by the U.S. TREASURY…..now I knew the U.S. TREASURY already lent them the money in the bailout with taxpayer dollars….so I knew that they were lying…..it took me a while to connect the dots……But that is exactly how this whole Ponzi Scheme went down…….The U.S. TREASURY is who issues the collateral deed to us when the homes are paid for……after the pretender lender cashes the check at the U.S. TREASURY paid by the U.S. TAXPAYER, WE THE PEOPLE fund and pay for everthing these bastards do……and our homes are paid for free and clear because of it…..I remember the first time I went to court to fight my fraudclosure, the judge asked me was I going to try for a loan mod, and I told him I have already went down that path and the servicer told me I was denied by the U.S. TREASURY…..and his eyes popped out and I told him I do not want a mediation with lender, I want them to prove they own my loan, I have found fraud all throughout my loan…….He told I could leave now and go find an attorney….HA!!! He did not want the sheeple in the courtroom to hear what I had to say….or maybe he did….
@Marilyn A
I see all these isues on these sites about robo signing, securitization and everything else
and no matter how knowlegable the writters are on these subjects
I think those are all the secondary frauds.
The paramount and origination fraud of the Bank lending its credit not money is the common denominator for all of us.
Sure they did the other things, but looking at them takes your eye off the ball and wastes time, money and energy and destroys our lives. And each day that passes we will have more destroyed lives.
The Constitution is the Law of the Land, We must unite and demand our rights under the Constitution.
The only thing these mortgages are secured to is the U.S. TAXPAYER……WHO FUNDED AND PAID FOR EVERYTHING IN THIS COUNTRY….ALL THE GOVERNMENT(S) AND WALL STREET DO IS WHORE OFF OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE……FOR BABYLON, WHICH IS ROME….
The reason why the Illuminati intentionally crashed the stock market was to cover up for all of WALL STREETS FRAUD..AND THE BAILOUTS WERE ANOTHER PLOY AS WELL AS QE1 &2…..WALL STREET IS WHO OWES THAT 140 TRILLION IN DEBT, THEY CREATED IT OUR OF THIN AIR……..THAT WAS THE MAIN REASON FOR 9/11…..AND THIS ENTIRE MANUFACTURED FINANCIAL CRISIS…WAS TO COVER UP FOR WALL STREETS CRIMES AND THE FACT THAT, OUR HOMES WERE PAID FOR, BY ALL OF US, AT ORIGINATION…….AND THESE CROOKS NEVER HAD ANY SKIN IN THE GAME,THEY NEVER LENT US ANY MONEY AND THEY HAD TO CREATE A HUGE FAKE FINANCIAL CRISIS……TO COVER UP FOR THEIR UNSUSTAINABLE 140 TRILLION IN COLLATERAL FRAUD…….THEY WERE MASSIVELY OVERLEVERAGED AND OVER SPECULATING CA– USED THIS MESS…….THEY WANT TO CONVINCE ALL OF US AMERICA IS BROKE AND WE THE PEOPLE DID SOMETHING WRONG…..THAT IS A BIG MANUFACTURED LIE…….
People are broke, living below the poverty line and losing their jobs because of what WALL STREET did…and the U.S. GOVERNMENT IS ALLOWING THIS MANUFACTURED IMPOVERISHMENT…..TO BE DONE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.TO COVER UP FOR WALL STREETS FRAUD…….THROW THEM ALL OUT…..AMERICA!!! THIS ENTIRE FINANCIAL CRISIS IS A MANUFACTURED SCAM AND A FRAUD TO COVER UP FOR WALL STREETS 140 TRILLION IN COLLATERAL MORTGAGE FRAUD….!!!!! THAT IS WHY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS COVERING THIS UP, BECA– USE THEY ALLOWED THIS WALL STREET PONZI SCHEME TO HAPPEN WITH U.S. TAX PAYER DOLLARS…WALL STREET COULD HAVE NEVER PULLED THIS, OR 9/11 OFF WITHOUT INSIDE HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT(S)….THE POLITICIANS, THE MEDIA, OUR LEGAL SYSTEM IS ALL ON THIS COVER UP NOW…..THEY ARE USING THE JUDGES AND THE ATTORNEYS TO ROPE ALL OF US IN AND MAKE US “THINK” WE CANNOT WIN……..THAT IS A LOAD OF B.S… AND BECA– USE OF ALL OF THIS, IT IS NOW UP TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO STAND UP FOR THEIR RIGHTS AND STOP THE ROBBERY, RAPE AND PILLAGE OF MAINSTREET AND THROW ALL OF THE BASTARD POLITICIANS OUT…!!!
The pretender lenders know they do not own our homes…….the Federal Government , their owners are forcing these fraudclosures and this robbery via their perps, the Judges and the lawyers ……..When I was denied the loan mod, my pretender lender told me the U.S. TREASURY DENIED ME THE LOAN MOD……..THAT WAS MY FIRST CLUE……THERE WAS A MASSIVE COVER UP OF SOMETHING GOING ON HERE……! THOSE BAILOUTS WERE A SHOW…TO MAKE US THINK WE THE PEOPLE CA– USED THIS AND WE WERE BROKE…..IT IS THE FOREIGN INVESTORS WHO ARE PUSHING FOR THESE FRAUDCLOSURES, THE MAIN CULPRIT IS THE IMF AND THE WORLD BANK……OUR ENEMIES…NONE OF THEM OWN OUR HOMES…!!! THEY ARE A CABAL OF LIARS WHO MAKE YOU “THINK” THEY OWN EVERYTHING WHEN THEY REALLY JUST STEAL….BY WIDELY DECEPTIVE PRACTICES AND UNFAIR DEALING……BIG LIES…..THEY HAVE NO SOULS….AT ALL……..AND THEY HAVE BOUGHT THEIR WAY INTO AMERICA…THROW THEM ALL OUT…INCLUDING ALL OF THE LYING POLITICIANS….!!!!
Marilyn L. My daughter has nothing in the foreclosure but the same copy of the Note and Mortgage as she got at closing….All this robo signing…she has nothing….everybody comparing robo signatures we just went past that….her loan was never listed in any arm’s PSA cause it said ‘ deliberately omitted..’ …I wasted hours and many nights on that and found nothing….I looked through a whole year…..it shows nothing in the foreclosure and nothing recorded in county records but the mortgage…and that was requested to be sent back to the title co. and NOT TO THE BANK. That I questioned……why did the bank not get the recorded mortgage. …but after almost 2 years Chase has not proven anything…..except they are the servicer…rights from WAMU….it was like a dead end. And WAMU said in prospectus that nothing would be recorded to save on administration costs…and they kept the Notes cause someone could steal them…..That gave me a good laugh. What jerks……I can’t wait to hear what her new lawyer has to say…..she went with Stopa Law Firm…..her first lawyer firmly believed that there were no frauds in the mortgages….that people only wanted a free home…..but that was not what she said before she got $1,250.00 and said the other half to be paid in like a month…I put the breaks on that payment real fast. …wanted 2,500.00 before she even did anything….than when she did…she was fired. She worked for the banks….a fast 2,500.00 go to court…lose the house and she got paid….I let her know what she was pulling….and I am friends with a paralegal that worked at that law firm….but quit of what she did.
@I vent and Marilyn A
We have to go with a single Petition to Pres. Obama upholding the Constitution and declaring every mortgage and note signed by a mortgagor and mortgagee lending their credit not money is null and void ab initio.
The Constitution being the paramount law of the land, Art 1 Para 10 Cl 1 says it all
No State Shall coin money, emit bills of credit ….”
State Banks must follow that law.
National Banks must follow Federal Law
.Congress has never given any bank the right to lend their credit.
And we can’t do it as a one by one Petition that the government will threw in the trash one by one.
We need all our united strength. I think we could get millions of people signing .
I am not a computer expert, but I see on a site like CREDO
all you have to do is press a button to sign the Petition.
Could Michael, Lisa, Neil or Damien program such a Petition
and we all sign adding Twittering everyone for their signatures
by those who has been effected by this massive fraud.
and then combine all the sites and submit it as one Petition
with the million or more signatures.
Marilyn L…..I am not that great on the computer either….but I might be able to ask a few guys my daughters may know….some seem to be in the know of many things to do on the computer…unless Michael may have some suggestions or can help to kinda guide us…..but this sounds great….something has to be started and I feel you picked the high point of the fraud. …
I VENT….what do you think of a national petition ? One on the internet……reply…..or anyone who has any idea’s to help with this petition…jump on board….
Ivent
I am afraid you are right. It’s indeed chilling. They have stolen, are stealing and will continue to steal our homes while at the same time bankrupting the country. I have worked and paid into SS and Medicade since I was 14 years old and now as they try to steal my house, they are trying to steal the ton of money I have paid into the system. I still can’t find an attorney to help me and I sent a letter to the judge asking a simple question as I have now received a letter from another law firm saying they represent BoA and are foreclosing. I contacted their attorney of record who is the attorney of record with the court and he knew nothing about this other firm. I got a response letter back from the court stating I should get an attorney (DUH, I wish I could find one), they are not there to help me or answer any questions. Everything must be in pleading form and submitted to the court. What a crock of horse do do.
I like relating song lyrics to current events……I think we have been being prepared for this for a long time
Dave Matthews song, The Space Between… I can take the words from that song and relate them to what is going on right now..I believe you have to keep an open mind to get through this….You can find this song on you tube.
You come up quickly, so quickly,there’s
no hope in you for me…..
no corner you could squeeze me,
the space between,
the wicked lies we tell
and hope to keep safe from the pain.
.. These fickle fuddled words confuse me, like will it rain today? we waste the hours with talking, talking…. these twisted games we’re playing
What a wild eyed beast you be.The space between the wicked lies we tell, is where I will be hiding waiting for you……
look at us
spinning like the madness of a rollercoaster…..You know you talk like a devil in a church in the middle of a crowded room…All we can hope is we dont bring this ship down………………
The space between the bullets in our fire fight is where you will find me hiding waiting for you…
The space between whats wrong and right is where you’ll find
me hiding waiting for you. Take my hand cause were walking out of here….right
out of here…..
It is a relationship song but I hear a deeper meaning…I think he is talking about the evil empire
and the space between is the truth and that is where we can hide from them…..We can all find the space between in the fraud in our fraudclosure…..it is easy to find and prove…and we can
file a motion to dismiss on that basis…..that is where the truth is…..you do not need an attorney to do this….this is not illegal……..they can tell all of the lies they want to try and cover up the truth but the truth about all of lies they told,the twisted tales they weave is the fraudclosure….
Katheryn….The courts and the Clerk of Court will not give any legal advice……that is out of the question….In Florida that was what they told my daughter….she didn’t ask for advise but the Clerk of the Court told her that so many people call or come to court thinkig they can find answers or advice and that is what lawyers are for. GO FIGURE….WHAT LAWYERS ? My daughter fired the first attorney and we went with Stopa Law Firm. Should have done that to begin with. I guess the only one who gets a free lawyer is the criminal…..a State Defense attorney…..is that not ass backwards ??? You can go rob or kill and you get free legal help. But the courts and the Lawyers are under the NWO…not under our oaths or constitution…….Their orders are in reverse as to what we know…we are the enemy to them…so what we see as right…is wrong in their eyes…and what we see as wrong is right in their eyes……so if you think of all this crap they have pulled…from banks, Wall Street. foreclosures..and so on…..they take no blame or see any wrong…they keep saying we are the bad ones and caused all this…they rob and steal and gain trillions…to them that is right…that is the evil of their blood..
I’m glad your daughter has Stopa as this may give her a fighting chance..I hope she wins! I can’t find a lawyer in my state even paying one. They live by the “deadbeat” theory, or “cowards” or “paid off”. Child molesters and killers get representation…not deadbeats. What a crazy world in which we live also very sad. Basically you are told to get a lawyer, if you can’t get one your due process is denied. Unreal.
@I vent
You are right. The courts do not want us to go pro se. The courts have control over
how the attorneys perform in the courtroom , to achieve the results the court wants.
Have you noticed as this movement gets bigger and stronger how Chief Judge Jonathan
Lippman of the New York Court of Appeals is making an all out effort to get funding for
defendants that can’t afford attorneys..?
I say our way is to Petition Obama. to uphold Art 1 Para 10 Cl 1 of thr US Constitution.
and that everyone lent credit by a bank has a void and null mortgage and note.
Right marilyn because in reality, they never lent us any money, it was quite the opposite……The U.S. TREASURY lent them OUR MONEY…….They are talking in the media about the Fed Twist….this entire Ponzi Scheme was a twist……The american people paid for their homes first…..and we lent the banks the money……we were just never told this…..That is why we have the COLLATERAL DEED….OUR HOMES ARE PAID FOR BY THE U.S. TAXPAYER….AN ATTORNEY TOLD ME THIS IS TRUE, THE BANKS NEVER LENT US ANY MONEY……….The ruling elite never thought they would get caught…and the owners are using NAZI tactics via our civil courts to try and cover up for all of this….and trying to force homeowners into illegal, immoral and unethical loan mods or trying to force short sales and the like, so they can steal our homes that we paid for and they do not own and never did…….This is a massive NWO, GLOBAL ELITE PLAN TO STEAL EVERTYHING FROM THE PEOPLE UNDER THE GUISE OF DEBT AND WE OWE THEM MONEY…..THAT IS A BIG LIE, WE DON’T OWE THEM ANY MONEY……THAT IS ALL A BIG LIE,.THEY OWE US TRILLIONS UPON TRILLIONS IN ILL GOTTEN GAINS THEY CREATED OFF OF THIS RULING ELITE MASSIVE MORTGAGE FRAUD PONZI SCHEME…THEY MANUFACTURED A FINANCIAL CRISIS AND STOLE AND ARE STILL STEALING, OUR WEALTH, OUR JOBS, OUR BUSINESSES, OUR HOMES, OUR SOCIAL SECURITY, OUR MEDICARE SO THEY CAN COVER UP FOR ALL OF THE WEALTH THEY HAVE STOLEN AND STILL ARE STEALING TO COVER UP THE TRUTH,,,,, THERE IS 140 TRILLION DOLLARS IN UNSUSTAINABLE COLLATERAL FRAUD…..,THAT THEIR OLIGARCHS CREATED OFF OF THE BACKS OF THE PEOPLE……CONGRESS, OBAMA, THE GOVERNORS OF THE STATES, NO ONE HAS DONE ANYTHING TO STOP THIS…SO THEN, THEY ARE COMPLICATE.,…OBAMAS JOBS PLAN IS NOT GOING TO SAVE US AND EITHER IS THE RICH PAYING MORE TAXES,..THAT IS ANOTHER RULLING ELITE TACTIC TO STEAL VIA THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT…..WE WILL NEVER SEE THAT MONEY…..MAINSTREET MUST DEMAND TO BE PAID BACK THEIR STOLEN WEALTH……….NOW THEY ARE USING THE COLOR OF LAW TO STEAL OUR HOMES THEY DO NOT OWN……IT IS NOT ILLEGAL TO STOP PAYING A MORTGAGE AND ALL OF THEIR CONTRACTS ARE NULL AND VOID BECA– USE THEY NEVER LENT US ANY MONEY….THAT IS WHY EVERYTHING IS RIDDLED WITH FRAUD…THEY NEVER LENT US ANY MONEY, WE LENT OUR MONEY TO THEM VIA THE U.S. TREASURY…..NONE OF US SIGNED ANY OF THOSE FRAUDULENT CONTRACTS…..BECA– USE WE DID NOT AGREE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS FRAUD……OR LEND THEM ANY MONEY……THAT IS WHY THEY ARE CALLED PRETENDER LENDERS, OUR MORTGAGES ARE ALL A BIG LIE, A MIND GAME, A SHAM AND A FRAUD…..
There is a ton of deception out there and Obama is the king of deceptive practices…..and unfair dealing…under the guise of Yes We Can…..and Hope and Change…..Half the country has been stolen for the love of God….and how many people realize this is even happening? That the Globalists are stealing America under the guise of we owe them money that we don’t owe?
why can’t we all file a class action…maybe RICO. We can motion them to death.
Katheryn – Class Action suits benefit no one except the Attorneys. They are expensive, very expensive and only end up in monetary sanctions – not crimminal and certainly not to the advantage of homeowners who have their homes stolen. I’ve been involved in at least 6 class action suits against Chase, Wells Fargo and Citi. I got an average of $7 at settlement!! Whoopie!!! And they are left doing the same thing over and over and over again. I don’t know that much about RICO, but I’ve been told that it is hard to prove a case under the RICO act – maybe I’m wrong so if anyone out there is familiar and knows more then post here.
There is always strength in numbers and it seems a shame that we are all fighting for our lives in independent battles against these white collar thieves. What are some of the charges we all have in common: we were all tricked into contracts within unknown parties and where our signatures were launched into a big black void under the guise of securitization. I have used this in my complaint so I don’t know whether it will fly yet. Isn’t it contract law 101 – deceit renders a contract voidable? I would bet it is safe to assume most of us were strung along with the promise of a loan mod., when there was never the intent to give us one. I just wish there was some way we could all unite under a common plea. Just a dream I guess.
So true Bobbi, the people might see a few bucks from these class actions….it is just a way to keep us roped in and make us “think” we are having success. The people need to go after them criminally for sure…but they are trying to do to us what they did to the families of the victims of 9/11…rope us in and tell us we can’t win and try and maybe give us a paltry settlement somewhere down the line….There are millions of us… and that is proving to be more and more problematic for them….
We need to mount a resistance movement nationwide…..have gatherings of people from our cities and towns and spread the knowledge…tell your neighbors the Government is intentionally aiding and abetting this oppression of all of us in order that the ruling elite criminals can steal everything from all of us including our homes that these foreign ruling elite do not own our homes…. We own our homes free and clear.tell them and show them how and why…..If you tell one person and they tell one person and so on and so on…….we will be able to mount a resistance movement….Tell them to watch Inside Job and the documentary Plunder, A Wall Street Story which is on you tube……..Share and Spread the knowledge…When you are broke, knowledge and indivisibility is power…
@Marilyn A and I vent
I think there are alot of attorneys that play down the Constitutional issue
because they are afraid they will loss their business
They don’t have to worry they will have massive work undoing all the fraudulent titles
and putting the true owners back in their properties or settling deals between the
true owners and those in illegal possession of property.
Marilyn L……I understand in the oath ( British)…and this may also may be included in THEIR constitution…that the oath all the lawyers had to take… that if they go against the oath they face the loss of their license to practice law ever and more….. notice how fast the Bar went after the 2 lawyers who expressed their words to the public…freedom of speech…they can only speak against the people…not for them….I would say being threaten …………
I would say they have some worries….if we do not win over this massive crime set up of the country…these lawyers will not have a job…there will be no need for any lawyers….or courts….that is if we the people don’t stand and fight the fight and stop this takeover….and these lawyers need to fight the fight right along with the people…not sit back and wait to see what happens…while we do all the dirty work of fighting for our rights….so I would say the lawyers are under threats since so many have been no help to the people…..unless we the people do not know something that these lawyers know…it all is a mystery held from us.
@Marilyn A.
I agree with you . The courts are a very big problem. Very few judges are upholding the 5th and 14 th amendments of our Cons;titution and protecting our property rights.
We need a different united plan
Another Shay type rebellion at the court houses could be a show of distrust of the Courts but it wouldn’t undue the damage that has been been done to millions of homeowners already
Maybe if millions of us Petition President Obama (a man who wants to be president again) that if he doesn’t uphold Article 1 Para 10 Cl 1 of our Constitution he can count on millions of less votes no matter how much money he raises.
This is an iisue that would cover all of us that ever signed a mortgage and note.
For any of you who claim “forget the vapor money issue” you don’t under stand the Constitution.
Our Constitution says ” No State Shall coin money, emit bills of credit…’
These are the Restrictions place on the States
State Banks must follow those laws.
National Banks must follow Federal Law. Congress has never given any bank the right to lend their credit.
We the People of the Country want Obama to declare every bank mortgage written when a bank lent you their credit and did not lend you lawful money is Ultra Vires ab initio.(meaning a null and void contract from the beginning)
This is the foundation of the massive fraud.
To Lies is all They tell you: So sorry about what happened to your parents and about your dad’s current situation.
This 800# thing is ridiculous. No one is going to call to bring their mortgage issues to the bank’s attention only to “help” the bank put their file back together or re-paper the loan and get the homeowner to sign away their rights.
I can’t figure out if the regulators really don’t get it (in terms of depth of the fraud) or they don’t want to get it…or they are in collusion with the banksters to push all of this under the rug. OK, nevermind…I think we can all figure out who is in bed with who in this nasty business. You know, just when I think I can’t get any more pissed – some story comes along that just yanks my chain all over again…
hi thanks for the talk i need a friend in this mess. i have a good one again. i have been in contact with marco rubios office a senator in florida about my mortgage. wells fargo told me not to pay to be able to apply for hamp which is a lie. as now i find out the banks were saying this to all homeowners. so i involve the senateors office and wells fargo calls me. i am already in foreclosure and am in a foreclosure office in orlando. so i contact the senators office . now i get 3 letters from wells fargo one from the loan mitigation division. and 2 from 2 separate home preservastion specialists. wells fargo was just down graded today no wonder. right hand doesnt know what the left hand is doing so sad to be involved in this crap
Just called the number. It is just the rehashed version of the failed HAMP program under a different name
SOS different day. A
Have any of you had fraudulent encounters with Fidelity National Title?
if the phone number turns into a legit number to call
, I would have to tell once again
how corrupt and sleazy Judge Alice Schlesinger of NYSC
perpertrated Title fraud with Frank Malone of Fidelity National Title
and David K Fiveson of Coronet after Astoria Federal S & L
admitted that they never owned my two condos when their corrupt debt collector attorneys
Mullooly Jeffrey Rooney & Flynn auctioned them off
and wrote and notorized a Forged Deed.
But that is only if the number shows proof of being legit, if not
I will have to continue to tell my nightmare on the Internet.
wait i have a new twist on this guys. my dad is 78. back in 2000 they sign a contract (he and my mother) to sell their home in north miami beach florida. with a company called ugly mortgages. the home was never sold because my mom died a few months after signing. they sued my dad for 3500$ thrreatened to foreclsoe which they proceeded and my dad did a short sale . in the closing papers is a fee that paid off this “ugly mortgages” well……he gets a letter this month from a collection agnecy for the exact amount my dad already paid. so we have companies who settled a debt , reselling the same debt. this is going beyond fraud this is an invasion. my dad had a heart attack with subsequent triple bypass. his old brain never awakened fromm anesthesia. his dementia has progressed. he is goin to an adult living facility. so no more bills for him. but imagine all the people they are reselling old debts to. not sure in our laws if this is legal. but there is no one to fight. i will try and send this to the senators office. like we all dont have our own problems dealing with this mess. the no job thing sucks. do not know how much more of this we can take. obviously more it keeps happening. when is someone going to say uncle. i can not find a florida lawyer, reasonable in cost to take my case against wells fargo for promissory estopell. they told me not to pay to apply for hamp. thye caused the contract to become null and void. proof? is my home ownership since 1991. yet the lawyers seem to be afraid of something. no one e=wants to help.
I need time to think of all the damages for the past 5 years. At 80 years old it shows up more than it should. But for a Billionaire to be punished enough for the punishment to be measureable it would necessarily be from a half billion to three billion at least and that from four or five bankers. So about 20=30 billion might be a fair amount so that 20 billion they have offered may be a little short.
Sue the servicers!!!!
Didn’t we all learn a long time ago……….THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MODIFICATION…… 1% OR LESS DOES NOT COUNT……….and why would you want to modify a FRAUDULENT SUCKER LOAN (with lots of small print to boot) THAT WAS NEVER LEGAL TO START WITH! The home belongs to you….. so…….fight for it ……like HELL!
Rob, I fought for my home. Now the case was dismissed based on the merits. In February the final order was signed, all about Robo Signing is the reason. Now I have to go to court on Sept. 30th for a Motion for Summary Judgement hearing on a case that was dismissed? I thought my case was closed. Not sure what to do now. I am out of energy and money.
Plain and simple, this is a tyranny. The Judges are committing criminal acts in Civil Court rooms everyday by handing pretender lenders FREE homes with no proof of standing. The judges are forcing homeowners into loan mediations with pretender lenders……without the pretender lender proving standing..I believe that is extreme AB– USE OF POWER BY THE JUDGE….These non-performing loans were dumped into a Global Trust in order to cover-up for the Origination Fraud and these defaulted fraudulently induced loans are no doubt to this day still being actively bought sold and traded on..MORE FRAUD…These same criminals are no doubt using some new exotic derivitive to gamble on like will we or won’t we be granted a free house…..I am in fraudclosure on a piece of commercial property that is still active in MERS on an illegal cross collateralization with my home. I believe that even though the loan is in default they are still to this day making money on this default all the while trying to be granted and illegal foreclosure…..These criminals must be stopped….this is corrruption from the top down and they are all in on this Foreclosuregate cover up of the biggest Ponzi Scheme swindle and heist of our wealth in history……140 trillion in mortage collateral fraud…..Wall Street is broke and after being allowed to get away with STEALING hundreds of trillions in ill gotten gains by OVERLEVERAGING OUR ASSETS, they were then allowed to insider trade the market AFTER their OVERLEVERAGING FINALLY CAUGHT UP WITH THEM AND STEAL OUR WEALTH AND HIDE IT IN OVERSEAS BANKSTER ACCOUNTS……….Max Keiser talked with a guest of his show yesterday about THE FACT THAT J.P. MORGAN AND CITI WERE OVERLEVERAGED 52:1. FANNIE AND FREDDIE, 72:1 AND GOLDMAN SACHS 333:1…Then they received trillions in tax payer funded bailouts and Fed money pumping……all the while continuing to FRAUDCLOSE on 20 MILLION HOMEOWNERS who they NEVER LOANED ANY MONEY TO….This was the biggest transfer and theft of wealth from MAINSTREET to WALL STREET TO THEIR RULING ELITE OWNERS IN HISTORY…AND BECA– USE OF THIS 47% OF AMERICANS ARE NOW LIVING BELOW THE POVERTY LINE IN AMERICA ACCORDING TO MSNBC…GET UP AND STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS PEOPLE…WE OWN OUR HOMES, WE ARE THE ONLY PARTY WITH CLEAR TITLE BECA– USE WE FUNDED AND PAID FOR ALL OF THESE HOMES WITH OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS…..WE CANNOT ALLOW THE BANKSTER OWNERS, THE FOREIGN INVESTORS TO STEAL OUR HOMES THEY DO NOT OWN AND HAVE NO RIGHT TO TAKE FOR 14O TRILLION IN COLLATERAL MORTGAGE FRAUD THAT IS UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT….DO THE MATH,,,140 TRILLION IN DEBT BACKED BY 8 TRILLION IN REAL ESTATE…..THEY WERE ALLOWED TO OVERLEVERAGE THEMSELVES EXPONENTIONALLY AND THAT WAS INTENTIONAL TO STEAL OUR JOBS AND OUR WEALTH FROM ALL OF US UNDER THE GUISE OF THE PEOPLE BOUGHT HOMES THEY COULD NOT AFFORD…..AND THEN STEAL OUR HOMES AND BUSINESSES THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO TAKE…CLAIMING AMERICA IS BROKE IS A MANUFACTURED LIE……WALL STREET WANTS ALL OF US TO PAY THEIR BILLS BECA– USE THEY ARE INSOVENT ON PAPER…THE BOOKS ARE COOKED AND THEY HAVE HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS OF ILL GOTTEN GAINS THEY STOLE FROM ALL OF US, HIDDEN IN OVERSEAS BANKSTER ACCOUNTS..NOW THEY ARE BEING ALLOWED TO STEAL OUR HOMES AND BUSINESSES UNDER COLOR OF LAW WHEN THERE ARE NO LAWS WRITTEN THAT SAY IF YOU DO NOT PAY YOUR MORTGAGE YOU LOSE YOUR HOME OR BUSINESS…..ALL THEY HAVE ARE COPIES OF CONTRACTS AND COPIES OF NOTES RIDDLED WITH FRAUD AND LIES THAT ARE NOW NULL AND VOID BECA– USE OF THE ORIGINATION FRAUD……THEY DESTROYED THE ORIGINAL NOTES AND MORTGAGES TO COVER UP FOR ALL OF THEIR FRAUD…….THERE IS NO CLEAR CHAIN OF TITLE TO THEM BECA– USE OF THE ORIGINATION FRAUD..BECA– USE OF THE ORIGINATION FRAUD NONE OF THEIR SO-CALLED MISTAKES CAN EVER BE LEGALLY PERFECTED…… THEY VOIDED THEIR OWN CONTRACTS AT THE ORIGINATION FRAUD…….FORECLOSURES ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND ILLEGAL, . …THE LATEST KEISER REPORT..
http://www.youtube.com/user/MaxKeiserTV
My case comes up for dismissal today……….if I ever have to do a summary judgement……….I will probably declare bankruptcy the same day. I also have a third out that I cannot share here….I am well prepared…..liquidated all personal assets and ready for war!
Best of Luck to you today Rob in getting your case dismissed! Let us know how it goes…
Thanks Vent…..Let you know as soon as Ice Legal takes them apart!
Rob – how did the court thing go today with Ice Legal?
Bobbi,Vent and Marilyn…..I did not go to court…..strictly a dismissal hearing…..4th time strictly lawyer vs lawyer for now (and I don’t want the judge to decide he doesn’t like my looks, even in a suit)….I will not know until I check the clerk’s records or when Ice Legal calls me or mails me the brief…they are swamped so I don’t bother them, especially since the pretender lender’s lawyers have not gotten to first base….out of 21 interrogatories for discovery they have responded with ZERO. I am having trouble fathoming?……..I am befuddled…where is their case?
Rob, Bobbi and everyone, please read my latest comment and let me know what you all think about my idea….We need a Nationwide Movement NOW….THIS IS URGENT!!! THEY ARE GOING TO THROW ALL OF US UNDER THE BUS, I SEE THE WRITING ON THE WALL….I HAD AN ATTORNEY TELL ME THE OTHER DAY THAT THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP UNTIL THEY STEAL EVERY HO– USE AND BUSINESS FROM THE PEOPLE……
….I find that I am excited, but prepared…don’t want to get any adrenaline going because even though I may succeed….for how long? We are going down the tubes as a country…….so I am going to be secure? I think not….and what about the rest of the battle……for the rest of us…that is my war too! I am committed!
Vent….have you seen what has been going on down on Wall Street for 6 days now….hundreds, sometimes thousands are demonstating….half a dozen arrests have been made. Our future heroes are on the streets of lower Manhattan and plan on occupying for MONTHS. It’s happening folks. The media is not reporting any of it! THE REVOLUTION HAS BEGUN! Now…..let’s not let the snowball hit a tree.
Rob, I did not know…. I hope this works….What do you think of my idea…..? Don’t even answer the foreclosure complaint when it comes…EVERYONE FILES….A MOTION TO DISMISS ON GROUNDS OF FRAUD IN THE WHOLE LOAN…… A MOTION TO DISMISS IS A DOCUMENT YOU FILE INSTEAD OF AN ANSWER……AND FILE MICHAELS NUGATORY DECLARATION AT THE RECORDERS OFFICE…………I just saw that ugly bulldog faced bastard George Soros on CNBC….He said WE WILL HAVE A DOUBLE DIP…..HIM AND THE FEDERAL RESERVE ARE TALKING QE 3….THEY ARE OUT TO DESTROY US….I WENT TO THE JEWEL GROCERY STORE YESTERDAY AND SPENT 77 DOLLARS ON A CASE OF POP, A COUPLE DOG FOODS POP TARTS TOOTHPASTE AND NOT MUCH ELSE….THERE WAS NO FOOD IN THERE EXCEPT FOR POP TARTS AND DOG FOOD…..THEY ARE TRYING TO STARVE US……WE NEED A PLAN OF ACTION NOW!!!!!.
Vent….That’s at least 6 problems you just addressed in that comment….good ideas…….now if we can solve the other 13.6 trillion other problems!
I know Rob, but it is all connected to one evil entity, THE NWO….I see the writing on the wall Rob….and attorney told me the other day that they are not going to stop until they steal every single house and business………We need a plan……..for the fraudclosures…..the attorneys are helping no one…..they can’t…only we can fix this by causing chaos….
CNN just reported, MICHIGAN CAR BOMB….ATTORNEY AND 2 SONS INJURED…….
Ivent – I think your idea is a great one. I still think that filing the Answer is a must. In the state of Florida if an Answer is not filied it will immediately be set as a Motion for Summary Judgment and set for auction. I think the Motion to Dismiss of your idea should be filed directly behind the Answer. Those of us in Florida need to show when filing the Answer under all counts should be “Do Not Agree”. Where is Michaels document? Do you have it in form that you can email me? Email address is bobbiswann@juno.com.
Both of my cases were dismissed but they still have the option to re-file for 352 days (used to be 180 but the state extended the time for lenders – ha!)
I will try this action to put a quash on the whole thing once and for all so if you have that form please send to me.
Rob..I think the judges are forceing the people to modify…even though we know there is no such thing. For some people, they are so confused by the courts actions…and when money runs out they must fight the rest with no energy to go on…that is what the courts want…and the banks. In my final ‘ thinking ‘…the people need to mob..swarm the courts….and I mean mobs are needed…not just a hand full of people. The courts / judges are the real problem at the end of the battle…and they too need to leave at the end of the day….is any one safe????????
Marilyn and marilyn lane, In the county I live in, the Judges are forcing homeowners to get an attorney ..If you tell the judge you can’t find one, they will tell you there is a list on the table over there of attorneys including free attorneys..These judges are forcing homeowners into loan mediations via corrupt attorneys who are working for the shadow Government with the banksters… This is an illegal and unconstitutional tyranny…I had a Government agent attorney tell me that there is fraud in everyone’s contract so that means there is fraud in no one’s contract…..B.S….90% of people don’t have a clue about what has gone on here and don’t even try to fight these illegal and unconstitutional criminal fraudclosures…….The NWO is just out to steal everything from the people…..via the civil courts and the attorneys they own and control….These judges and attorneys ought to stop being such cowards, this is their country and countrymen they are throwing under the NWO bus..THEY WANT TO LIVE UNDER THIS? Keepfighting the good fight.Anyone see those stock numbers today?…..DOW is down over 300 points last I looked and the S&P, peoples retirementmoney is down 80……..these crooks won’t stop trying to make us “think” we are broke when WALL STREET is broke by 140 Trillion in collateral mortgage fraud…..The people should drag all of these criminal bastards out of their ratholes and hang em..traitors and treasonists all of them! Burn baby burn!
Here’s a thought, maybe we need a movement by WE THE PEOPLE, ALL OF US, NATIONWIDE, should all file motions to dismiss because of the fraud in our loans…..because of that our contracts are now null and void..YOU DO NOT NEED AN ATTORNEY TO DO THIS, YOU CAN WRITE YOUR YOUR MOTION BY HAND AND FILE IT WITH YOUR COUNTY CLERKS OFFICE…….And then we should all file Michael’s Nugatory Declaration at the County Recorder’s offices…It will be 100 years before they get to all of us and by that time we will all be dead.
Here is a good link to watch……Who infiltrated America?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2122580172028011390#
and more hard truth:
jfkii.com
Ha, the bastards blocked it……here is the title you can you tube or google search it……Who Infiltrated America? Jesuits? Zionists? Illuminati?
BTW, the answer to that question is ALL OF THEM..!
I vent….It seems I read on Neil Garfield’s site that the mortgages were never in default…..Once the payments stopped …the servicer had to pick up and pay the payments….that is why the servicer wanted to file a foreclosure so fast….or at least one of the reason’s…..and it did say the loan’s were never in default…..now maybe someone can correct me on that or state how the article actually went….maybe Marilyn Lane can explain it better.
Marilyn, the mortgages were never a loan to us, they were a loan to the pretender lender from all of us via the U.S. TREASURY……that is why they are called pretended lenders..that is how they used our signatures as collateral…and the rules and regs that were put in place like Glass-Steagal were removed by the Clintons administration which allowed WALL STREET to overspeculate and overleverage 140 trillion in debt off of our signatures… …Everything happened just the opposite of what we thought….the fact they lent us any money was a huge deception..A BIG LIE,…They did everything ass backwards…the U.S. TREASURY paid them for our homes and businesses out of our taxpayer money..and COLLATERALIZED THE DEBT……that is why we have the collateral deed stamped paid….and conveyed to us at Origination…the pretender lenders could not legally put a lien on our deed because they were paid for our houses at Origination……by all of us..THEY NEVER LENT US ANY MONEY..and they never thought they would get caught….Black is White remember? .
That is why Neil states the mortgages were never in default…the pretender lenders never lent us any money…that was all an illusion, a sham and a fraud…..our homes have been paid for free and clear by all of us the U.S. TAXPAYER since the ORIGINATION….THAT IS WHY IT IS CALLED ORIGINATION FRAUD…….THEY NEVER LENT US ANY MONEY…..!!!!
I vent…….We know that….what I think he may have meant was the money was still paid by the servicers….at that time no one realized the complete fraud set up…..that we were paying for a home that was already paid for…Just as you and I and everyone else sent monthly payments…when payments stopped servicers were to fork up the payments. Until you brought up that our homes were paid for thru the U S Treasury….that was unknown. If we had known the homes were paid for…I am sure no one would have ever sent any payments…..But now that has come out…..we realize that no money was ever lent by the banks….But yes…I am sure everyone on this site must realize where the money came from….the U S Treasury.
This effort will not cure clouded title, or fix broken titles.
The feds are forcing the banks to use their backers monies instead of
handouts of taxpayers monies to do the modifications. Modifications
are nothing but the banks making partial mortgage payments for the
borrowers, as the investors would never willingly take less money on
the repayment that was agreed upon when the loans were agreed to.
Which is why most of the modifications have failed.
My complaint is in the form of my suit for Wrongful foreclosure and attorney’s complaint addendum. Add this ti damages plus punitive damages, measurable punitive damages Homeschool move eviction damages etc
it sounds like a trap to me.
the banks want you to do the work for them (revealing how you have been defrauded)
so they can try to alter their fraudulent documents
and resubmit.
why show your hand to the enemy?
You are right Fury and the attorneys are already doing this….they are working for the Feds….
Yes, it does. Or the inverse – “Well, virtually NO ONE has called the toll free number. Therefore there must be NO robo-signed foreclosures. We are now closing the investigation”
Does everybody know that the NWO has already taken over ownership of the National Parks ? Google it…..Florida…….they claim they own the Everglades……there is quite a list of Parks they named….These rats have left very little out of their plans….all done behind millions of people…….Are we still going to sit back and let this continue?
I would not call any number…this is nothing but another set up. There is no help to be given…never has been. Trickery is they game…don’t play it……Modification cannot be done in any form of title…FIRST…they must prove with original Note AND Mortgage….BOTH….cannot be seperated….and this they cannot do or prove….WAKE UP PEOPLE……any thing offered in the court or out are a trick to make you fail……this whole set up was to get all homes from the people so everyone is homeless…this is the goal of the sneaky bastards and they have no reason to help you but by tricks since we all know and found the frauds….We go to court with actual proof and the courts tell you ….you must go thru modification….that is a lie….the court wants you to fail by force…… when in fact your home is paid for……….and the courts are under the NWO Constitution….NOT AMERTCAN….
Nothing will be changed unless the people stand up and fight the fight…talking does not do it….we all share our experiences and give opinions to one another…that is good…it helps some to understand what is going on…BUT..unless we unite and make it known we will not be the victims of a plan to take over our country….we will be doomed. The foreclosures are just a part of the plan….it is mentioned in the NWO plans and I believe it was in 1932 that the plan was to take all the land from the people….this just didn’t start……
Absolutely correct Marilyn…..this is good vs evil…..careful who we trust!
Their entire plan failed when FDR refused to comply abd enforced “The New Deal”! Until then JP Morgan was trying to set up the NWO to steal everything! You can Google the history.
Rob…..That sounds just like my daughters foreclosure…….Chase sent a letter saying they purchased certain area’s of WAMU…and the letter was to say they, Chase, was the new servicer…no where did any of the papers say they owned the loan…yet when my daughter could not find out who owned the loan…(she was up to date on payments) they told her to get any one to speak to her she had to be 3 months behind….SOOOOO…she did just that. and she expected foreclosure….And Yes….Chase and their Mill lawyers say they own the loan…yet almost 2 years later nothing…in fact 21+ request to produce was not answered / filed for almost 10 months and all were OBJECTED….all of the request. Chase does not own the loan….the only thing I can think is they are going on the belief that the judge will just give the house to them since the courts are not for the people…we wonder too..where is their case? Twice they had to summit the foreclosure documents and twice they filed the same papers…I am curious as to what the new lawyers come up with…. lately I read that ( over a lawsuit) it was stated that Chase got only the servicer rights from WAMU. …and that is what we said….cause that is what the letter said from Chase….they collected the payments.
Bingo Marilyn…..You covered it…………plus…….maybe they just wait for us to die……..picture it Marilyn…..like vultures sitting in a row on a fence post….just waiting….
If you hear a dog barking on the line when you call, you can assume they are implying that a dog ate the papers and they ‘reassembled’ the mess.
HA, I have fraud all over my foreclosure…..Fisher and Shapiro stamped over all of the fraud from their original filing in their latest filing and removed the ALLONGE………..The Judge did not care to see it and told me show it to my attorney…… I spoke with an attorney who said, they can do whatever they want……I called the State AG’s office to complain about this and other deceptive practices by attorneys who are misrepresenting who they work for when they say they are working for the people and they are tossing HUD CONTRACTS at us to sign…I got into a screaming match with the woman who said, you signed a mortgage and I said NO because they committed fraud, I did not sign up or agree to all of this fraud..She said who committed the fraud in the foreclosure, the bank? and I said I am guessing it is FANNIE MAE’s attorney FISHER & SHAPIRO who have already been fined once for doing this sort of thing…………and she asked me why I DID NOT ASK THE BANK ATTORNEY WHY THEY COMMITTED FRAUD IN THE LATEST FRAUDCLOSURE FILING……and I asked her why they are not doing their job, they know about all of this fraud……she told me she would email me a complaint form…..
RING…RING…RING
“Hello
Is the person who forged Linda Green’s name to my assignment of mortgage available to speak?” and WOULD YOU HAVE THAT PESKY PROMISSORY NOTE FOR ME TO LOOK AT IN PERSON?
I MEAN ITS THE DARNEDEST THING, YOU’D THINK YOU’D KEEP A PROMISSORY NOTE WORTH HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN A PLACE YOU COULD FIND IT TO PROVE YOU ACTUALLY OWN THE RIGHT TO DUMP SOMEONES CARCASS OUT ON TO THE STREET.
Oh yeah I want to pre-emptively reserve my rights to challenge the signatures on that note (if you find it), under UCC 3-309, because mr/ms robo-signer representative, if I do not challenge the signatures on the note, they are deemed valid and I waive my rights to later challenge them
Thanks
Signed
Marlon Perkins
(and I thought being out in the Wilderness was the Wild Kingdom…little did I know)
Aaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhh!