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Occupy Wall Street Protest: A Message from the Democracy to the Plutocracy
We do not share in your laughter, when you flaunt your opulence in the face of suffering.
You profit off of the sick, and like a virus, you try and kill your host for selfish gains.
Your greed is a crime.
Your gluttony is a sin.
We do not admire your hoarding of resources.
We do not want what you are selling, because it is already broken, and it is overpriced.
We do not believe in your lies.
We do not want your paid lobbyists.
We do not want your debt.
We do not want your inflation.
We do not want your taxes.
We do not want your wars.
What will you do when the light of truth shines on your misdeeds.
Your ignorance of others has turned them against you.
Your lack of empathy is a curse.
You have stolen from us many things.
And your penance shall be 7 fold.
We are legion.
qwester: The outlook for our country is bleaker than many realize. It takes time for people to wake up and recognize their loss is more profound than they could imagine. We may be years away from correcting the housing market. Interest rates, now are low because the market is frozen, yet there is little demand combined with even less credit availability. Underlying those basic facts lies larger problems. Our housing market disaster set the stage for a global financial meltdown. Municipalities, reduced tax base, job loss, builders can[t compete with liquidating bank sales. Everything operates on a domino effect. Had we not drank the poison offerred up by easy credit by the banks and credit card companies to borrow we might not have made it all the way down the yellow brick road to our destruction. No one put brakes on the downhill run.
Our grandparents went through rationing, depressions, the dust bowl and hardships that taught them to be frugal. You are correct in that the current generation fails to remember the hard fought lessons of our wars. One benefit of WWII was the baby boomers whose birth, youth and ingenuity drove the economy to expansion. It was inevitable that they would wind down and be replaced by a generation that had life much easier and privileged, a perfect storm for a run on buying on credit when income begins to wane. Outsourcing jobs, deregulation, greed let the banks create a perfect spot to offer exotic mortgage backed investments, securities that made the banks a fortune. They had no skin in the game, handing it off to investors with the ‘right to service’ the loans and make more money in fees. The banks and mortgage companies raked in billions. The housing bubble held up the economy artificially with inflated housing values. Banks literally trade in houses. Having watched destructive lending and predatory practices for 8-9 years, as an appraiser in the industry, I began to see it crumble in 2005-06. Now appraisers are handicapped because our industry was based on relatively stable or rising value. We are forced into two markets, one for distressed property and a smaller normal arms-length market. Distressed sales of bank owned properties (REOs) exceed normal sales. Like our political scene, the housing industry is paralyzed and hanging on life support. Those who would buy, can’t , those who would sell, can’t. Their homes are worth less than they owe.
The chink in all of this is that recovery is complicated by fraud and deception that will play out in the courts, even now beginning to escalate in massive litigation, most of it from investors and government entities, trying to shake a dollar out of the banks, who are sitting on their reserves, waiting for an inevitable doomsday or a financial armageddon. Some are showing cracks in their ‘clay’ foundations right now. The solution is not simple. Austerity is forced on all of us or soon will be. The house of cards is coming down, reducing demand, resulting in more lost jobs and the vicious cycle goes on. Now China, our cheap purchasing resource is beginning to feel ‘our’ reduced demand.
When you have cut everywhere you can cut and it isn’t enough, what remains is anger when you see bank CEOs making millions, sitting on the profits of predatory and deceptive practices that cheated investors and homeowners on both ends. Investors will sue and exact an ounce of flesh from the pound they lost but people like us, losing our homes, because we have reduced income, lost our jobs, having few resources for recovery,what do we do? One wrote on our blog recently of having no money and little will left to fight. Banks either won’t or can’t accept responsibility to modify mortgages or correct the faults. They could reduce principal to market the 20-30% value loss they would be required to do if they foreclosed, but NO. Banks flatly refuse to remedy the chaos their predatory practices cause. They still try to sweep their deception and fraud under the rug.
Can you begin to see the anger with banks and Wall Street corporations including a political system that allows them to accept taxpayer money while their CEOs fly corporate owned jets, tax free. They place their corporate offices overseas to avoid taxes and yet pay their CEO, CFO, COO officers bonuses worth millions to avoid more taxes on salaries. Washington has turned their backs on the people in the midst of their election circus.
So what to do?
When one loses his voice and is at risk of losing his vote in government, the only method left is to demonstrate or take to the streets. Yes, it is radical but peaceful demonstration has been used to the point of bloodshed to gain the right to vote for women and African Americans to gain equal human and civil rights.
Sometimes you just have to stand up and be counted. If we can’t stand up for what we believe is right, we might as well sit down and keep our mouths shut.
I agree with the first of your respose to my comment but have edited the last part as a further comment. We are not far apart. If you wish I will expound upon my edits.
Can you begin to see the anger with SOME banks and Wall Street corporations including a political FAILURE that allows them to accept FEDERAL money while their CEOs fly corporate owned jets, tax free (PROVE IT). They place their corporate offices overseas to avoid taxes and yet pay their CEO, CFO, COO officers bonuses worth millions to avoid more taxes on salaries. THE POLITICAL PARTIES have turned their backs on the people in the midst of their election circus.
So what to do?
When one loses his voice (SINCE WHEN? YOU ARE TALKING NOW) and is at risk of losing his vote (BS) in government, the only method left (MORE BS) is to demonstrate or take to the streets (STILL MORE BS). Yes, it is radical but peaceful demonstration has been used BEYOND the point of bloodshed to gain the right to vote for women and African Americans to gain equal human and civil rights. IT TOOK VOTES IN CONGRESS AND A SIGNATURE IN THE OVAL OFFICE TO GAIN THESE, AND BLOODSHED INCLUDING A HUNDRED OR MORE YEARS OF VIOLENT PROTEST PLUS THE CIVIL WAR. YOUR PITIFUL “OCCUPY WALL STREET” IS JUST THE TANTRUM OF INCONVENIENCED BRATS AT THE CANDY COUNTER. The words you use disclose your lack of understanding of the cause of our current economic disaster and your TRUE MOTIVE. While there may have been a plan by some to “cause” this problem, I am not convinced that oligarchs, plutocrats, or government caused this. Normal, everyday GREED caused it while almost no one foresaw the potential consequences of the house of cards they built with the lending parameters demanded by Barney Frank and his socialist and other supporters. Securitization of loans was already wide spread in credit card accounts and auto loans, far smaller contributors to the GNP than housing. A federal regulator named Brooksley Borne, who ran the CFTC during Clinton’s first term, warned, over and over again, of the danger these easy mortgage loans caused when securitized and sold, unregulated, to investors in retirement plans and municipal government accounts. Clinton fired her with Alan Greenspan’s approval, destroying her career. Where were you then, tttennessee, asleep, I presume, sucking your thumb? It is obvious that you are intelligent and verbose. Throw off your biases and put your brain to better use.
Sometimes you just have to stand up and be counted. If we can’t stand up for what we believe is INTELLIGENT, we might as well sit down and keep our mouths shut.
I respectfully urge you not to line edit or alter original text regardless of analytical or critical intent. It confuses the reader and risks having original text inaccurately referenced. Everyone has a right to their views, thankfully at this point in time, but when you modify or rephrase within text even if capitalized or bracketed it is considered ‘inappropriate use,’ of the original, a definition of plagiarism. To be authentic one places sources within quotation marks, indentions, italics, defining and sources the original text. Follow the original quote and source with a marked summary, analysis, argument or critique in response.
I welcome dialogue with both those who agree or disagree with my views if they challenge my theories with responsible thought or sourced argument based on their belief. Resorting to personal attacks or descriptive adjectives fail to establish a platform on which to analyze opposing views. It is a little difficult to have a meaningful discussion when the rhetoric consists of non-relevant personal attacks on the individual yet fail to define the basis of dissent.
Other than to disparage or belittle the writers in the blog it is difficult to define your beliefs or the basis for your anger. People on the forum are serious about their plight and beliefs. It might be well to define your beliefs logically, sans personal attacks, or move on.
Nice escape – but it disparages you as a coward.
Quote marks added below for your convenience. I did not realize this was your blog. Did you mean it was your thread? Also any confusion my edits cause will be an improvement and closer to the truth.
I agree with the first of your response to my comment but have edited the last part as a further comment. We are not far apart. If you wish I will expound upon my edits.”
“Can you begin to see the anger with SOME banks and Wall Street corporations including a political FAILURE that allows them to accept FEDERAL money while their CEOs fly corporate owned jets, tax free (PROVE IT). They place their corporate offices overseas to avoid taxes and yet pay their CEO, CFO, COO officers bonuses worth millions to avoid more taxes on salaries. THE POLITICAL PARTIES have turned their backs on the people in the midst of their election circus.
So what to do?
When one loses his voice (SINCE WHEN? YOU ARE TALKING NOW) and is at risk of losing his vote (BS) in government, the only method left (MORE BS) is to demonstrate or take to the streets (STILL MORE BS). Yes, it is radical but peaceful demonstration has been used BEYOND the point of bloodshed to gain the right to vote for women and African Americans to gain equal human and civil rights.” IT TOOK VOTES IN CONGRESS AND A SIGNATURE IN THE OVAL OFFICE TO GAIN THESE, AND BLOODSHED INCLUDING A HUNDRED OR MORE YEARS OF VIOLENT PROTEST PLUS THE CIVIL WAR. YOUR PITIFUL “OCCUPY WALL STREET” IS JUST THE TANTRUM OF INCONVENIENCED BRATS AT THE CANDY COUNTER. The words you use disclose your lack of understanding of the cause of our current economic disaster and your TRUE MOTIVE. While there may have been a plan by some to “cause” this problem, I am not convinced that oligarchs, plutocrats, or government caused this. Normal, everyday GREED caused it while almost no one foresaw the potential consequences of the house of cards they built with the lending parameters demanded by Barney Frank and his socialist and other supporters. Securitization of loans was already wide spread in credit card accounts and auto loans, far smaller contributors to the GNP than housing. A federal regulator named Brooksley Borne, who ran the CFTC during Clinton’s first term, warned, over and over again, of the danger these easy mortgage loans caused when securitized and sold, unregulated, to investors in retirement plans and municipal government accounts. Clinton fired her with Alan Greenspan’s approval, destroying her career. Where were you then, tttennessee, asleep, I presume, sucking your thumb? It is obvious that you are intelligent and verbose. Throw off your biases and put your brain to better use.
“Sometimes you just have to stand up and be counted. If we can’t stand up for what we believe is INTELLIGENT, we might as well sit down and keep our mouths shut.”
I hope those on the radio program will give some time to the subject soon?.
This is the first time I’ve seen the video. I had to Google to open a link to it. If it can’t be accessed with the links it can be through Google. I did not see coverage of this at the time it occurred.
People are demonstrating in groups everywhere about various causes, most related to the financial industry, the Fed, their jobs being downsized or outsourced. All loosely relate the financial industry. Many of us fail to understand a common link leading me to believe that the general public also fails to recognize a commonality in their separate causes.
Since the media is either not covering protests or having a field day making sport of people we need to urge others to join the common cause as an influential force that embraces causes of those who feel displaced. I would urge all to contact through social media those in teachers unions or other similar bargaining entities like the pilots cause to enter the movement as it represents their interests as well. I certainly intend to promote our cause against Corporate control of our government, regardless of party. We need to clean house in Congress on both sides of the aisle to rid it of those who support Plutocracy, whether Democrat of Republican. This encompasses a greater body of people.
Consider contacting to support the Occupy movement:
1. Those who oppose the expense of the wars. (I believe the defense budget is outside our expense tally? 1. Anyone have a handle on that?)
2. Teachers and others whose unions and bargaining rights have been dismantled.
3. Those in the Postal Deparment protesting loss of jobs from downsizing the post office rather than using measures to make it profitable. (most people do not know that FedExand major carriers are contracted to deliver much of postal service mail. I bet that costs a pretty penny so they get rid of jobs rather than contract cheaper service?
4. Contact those in the housing industry, real estate, construction. These people are at the mercy of banks who have destroyed the housing market and their livlihood, which will continue for years with bank owned foreclosed homes on the market ready to dump. Recent research shows many houses sitting in limbo because of fraud or risk from investor lawsuits.
5. Those losing medical insurance. Even though claims are DOWN, the political system wants to destroy employer provided coverage to further its own goals to gut healthcare reform. Even the medical industry now supports some form of universal healthcare. We will come to this, it is inevitable as people cannot pay for escalating healthcare.
6. Those who stand to lose Medicare, Social Security, benefits they earned because Corporations prefer they die rather than have access to healthcare.
7. Other causes that are unique to your locality. . . . . think!
This is a time to rally the troops to support the cause and shape it, yes SHAPE it into a force that will gain the attention of the media to the plight of all of us who are losing our homes, jobs, Social Security, Medicare, health insurance and in the end, our lives to Wall Street greed. As we suffer in silence the world does not realize how bad things are here or with each other. We stick our heads in the sand because Wall Street and their lackeys want us to remain ignorant and unaware. We need awareness and revolution before any election.
I am not rallying against our federal government system or the Constitution. We lose control without a collective voice in government affairs, military, defense, courts, law, etc. as a collective body if the government is dismantled, the result of which would be chaos. Our primary cause is to reform federal government to meet the demands of the voters, the people who elect their representatives to reflect their views and needs, not those of Wall Street, lobbyists, foreign entities or corporations who seek to control our economy at our expense.
talktotennessee, they are all out of control..Federal, U.S., STATE AND LOCAL..Too much dictating and they are not upholding this nation under the protection of the U.S. CONSTITUTION….or the laws of this land….
Max Keiser pegged it….this is a BALANCE SHEET RECESSION by the Oligarchs that is being upheld with a lot of big lies by their owners, THE PLUTOCRATS and all of their agents………Max said until these Oligarchs and their minions and cohorts are held accountable for their malfeasance and crimes….this manufactured crisis will continue….This is mere stubborness by their owners who want to own not only everything buy, all of us under the guise of 140 TRILLION IN COLLATERAL FRAUD THAT WALL STREET AND THEIR COHORTS OWE……THIS WAS A HITLER PLAN..BY THEIR OWNERS…Max said until the Plutocrats face it, and have another Bretton Woods meeting and start forgiving some of their OLIGARCHS debt like they had to do during the last Great Depression….this FINANCIAL TERRORISM by the RULING ELITE will continue…..Yes, this has all been done before…..by the same CABAL….and contrary to what we have been told…it was not WWII that ended the great depression, though it did create jobs…it was the Bretton Woods conference and the rules put in place like Glass-Steagall which broke up the big banks….speculation and overleveraging from OUR deposits…
Yours is a rational statement which I support regarding a need to repair the government. I do disagree regarding your method of reforming it. The only available method is to amend the constitution. Too few Americans are upset over things beyond their own circumstances to achieve that difficult end. The middle class sees the protests as a fad that will pass. They use the bottom economic third as a measure of their success and expect it to be there forever. They are the true oligarchs because they provide the jobs. We are enthralled to electronic gadgets and endless fantasy and spend spend spend (thereby requiring a job). I dannot see the street protests accomplishing anything but a waste of time and money that could be used to promote new young legislators who have the brains, intellect, wisdom and ethics to pursue a practcal and honest solution.
Talk to Tennessee…. Stop jousting with this guy……….he is totally fucking nuts!
Rob…Thanks for saying that for me……like I told him earlier to make his point and end it….this is some older guy who is in need of attention….it fills his day.
Naw Marilyn…..He is a bankster, stock broker, today’s brand of typical creep…..which is what we are dealing with now……..a troll….spouting his brand of fascist caspitalism….he epitomises the enemy!
Here is another great you tube video that all should see…It is a VIDEO CNN WANTS BANNED….AND NO WONDER…It is from a protest in my hometown a couple of years ago….long before Anonymous and #Occupy Wall Street…people were waking up to the TRUTH…. the woman at the end of the video verbally smacks down the CNN reporter speaking the TRUTH about the Federal Reserve and the Government…..she says “This is not about Republicans or Democrats, this is about the Government Stealing our money”……If it does not post, you tube search the words, VIDEO CNN WANTS BANNED…..
Check this crap out folks, in addition to stealing homes and destroying the economy, it is getting down right scary. I am going to raise hell (peacefully) in my city, Washington DC. We cannot sit back and be driven into the ground:
” The New York Fed is seeking a vendor to help it monitor online conversations about the Federal Reserve. It wants “an alerting mechanism that automatically sends out reports or notifications based [on] predefined trigger[s].” This cyber spook will “provide sentiment analysis (positive, negative or neutral) around key conversational topics” and “identify and reach out to key bloggers and influencers.” “
Tom, Re: The Fed
Well, now there you have it. This monitoring is the fallout from our Homeland Security and Patriot Act. We may have missed 1984 but it looks like “big brother” is alive and well!
I enjoyed this video – very cool and very creative. Thank you for posting it.
The more of these the better because they’re a cool and catchy way to capture attention and are easy to share with others. Spread the word and tell the recipients to turn up their speakers!
As the parent of a son interested in film-making = I applaud the creator! As a anti-bankster warrior, I am grateful to all of those who spend their time and energy to get out the word to the world…standing ovation to you!
Anderson Cooper reporting on Operation Fast and Furious as yet ANOTHER BLUNDER BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WITH TAX PAYER DOLLARS…..The rumor is that Americans are furious with Obama and Eric Holder and are saying that this was a plot by them to use against the American people and our second amendment rights…People are saying this was a plot to ban assault weapons in America…CNN reporting that the reason this rumor is gaining momentum among many people, not just the second amendment crowd, is there is truly no logical explanation for why they did this….It cost a U.S. border guard his life and the cops and sherrifs dept in AZ are pissed off because they were not told about this operation and were unknowingly put in harms way by Obama and Holder….There are now countless guns missing and unaccounted for in Mexico and in the hands of who knows who….CNN is saying this scandal could be bigger than the Watergate scandal…WHOA!!!…wait a minute CNN, WHAT ABOUT FORECLOSUREGATE? They are still ignoring all of us.. Not that Operation Fast and Furious and Solyndra are not important but next to the PLUTOCRACY AND THEIR WALL STREET PERPS PONZI SCHEME….THIS IS JUST ANOTHER DISTRACTION FROM THE 140 TRILLION DOLLAR COLLATERAL FRAUD HITLER PLAN BY THE RULING ELITE…AND THEIR OLIGARCHY………Hopefully #Occupy Wall Street will change all of that and bring the truth about the biggest PONZI SCHEME SWINDLE AND HEIST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN HISTORY TO THE FOREFRONT…WHERE IT BELONGS….
you are so out of touch. here’s a link to the depatment of justice report on “gunrunner” from november 2010 and it was old news then.
The oligarchy and plutocracy are in the white house propping up their puppet. Your rantings have blinded you to what is really happening. wake up.
qwester, your assinine remarks prove one thing to me… they know we are hot on their trail….that is why they have you here trying to discredit us…..I have known about op fast and furiious for a long time.I put out the warning here that they were after our guns months ago….The media is who is INTENTIONALLY late to the show…This is just another trick they purposely left in their bag of tricks to use as a distraction from the fury that is building around the country by the American people who are waking up to this Hitler Plan..and these traitors and treasonists posing as Americans from within……Jimmy Kimmel was funny last nite on his show….He said that the Govt. is talking about doing away with paper dollars and issuing dollar coins instead….Jimmy Kimmel said they may not want to give out heavy metal objects to the American People right now… LMAO!!!!
BTW qwester, I love ranting about the truth…if the truth bugs you…don’t read my comments…
Qwester….You elaborated your ego compulsions…….except…..what did you earn your doctorate in specifically…please respond…….
Qwester the Molestor: Don’t you need to get back to your job? The 8.50 an hour bottom-feeder bill collector jerk-off job?
qwester….What exactly is your point….what issues do you have and with who may I ask. We all know who is in the White House pulling the strings of the puppets….You certainly are not the only person on this earth who knows everything or at least thinks he knows everything….just say what you have to say and end it…. what you have to offer is really of no value to anyone on here….But let me ask you a question …. since you know so much….in the forclosures….who exactly paid the banks for the ‘ Notes ‘ that were deposited using the signatures of the homeowners on the promissory notes ? Now keep in mind the mortgages were paid for when notes were deposited.
To houseman rob, ivent & leapfrog,
We have conflicted before. Your useless bleatings proclaim your sheepishness, no action and provocation galore. Do any of you bother to vote. That’s where the power is, not on the street. Lets compare:
1. I was born at the height of the 1930’s depression to factory worker, union parents and went to a one room grade school through eighth grade.
2. Too young for WW II, after high school I enlisted in the Army in 1952 to go to Korea.
3. After 6 years of active duty I went to a big 10 university and earned a degree in engineering and was accepted without a masters degree directly into a doctoral program.
4. I raised 4 sons, 2 of which served 4 years each in the military and two who work in the building trades.
5. I have 6 or 7 US patents on my inventions.
6. I have dozens of grand children and great grandchildren.
7. Putrid ilk like you three are a symptom of a political cancer that infects the progressive parties to the bone.
8. I have watched and heard you over and over for almost eighty years. You losers are always the same.
10. I’ve never been happier in my life although I wish you didn’t make it so easy for the republicans. They need an opponent who can challenge them seriously. They are too whimpy for me.
Oh blah, blah, blah…is that all you got qwester?….You cannot disprove a word we say….as far as voting goes the game is rigged until the money is taken out of politics and the politicians are forced to sign a contract with all of us..there needs to be term limits put on CONgress…..it is the hidden power structure that runs this country from behind the scenes….That is what needs to be exposed…The two party system is a sham….. a party of one. I always vote but it makes no difference who you vote for as long as the hidden power structure…THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS and other NWO members are appointed….by the PRESIDENT….THAT HAS TO STOP…
We have never had a President elected in America that is not a Dem or Repub…Don’t you find that a bit suspect? I do….Everyone I know voted for Ross Perot and he did not get a blip on the radar screen….The secret societies don’t belong running America….at all.
Qwester……Were you born as asshole or did you work it your whole life! Why are you trying to impress us…..we are just “deadbeat homeowners” that have been financially assaulted bv the banks and Wallstreet! Many of us are highly educated….but we don’t try to impress each other with ego indulgence! I have a Masters degree….so what…..these are not the issues! That would be providing food and shelter, for Americans, not for people living 8,000 mile away! Wake up dude….and join the human race!
NONE OF WHAT YOU THREE AND TENNESSEE… SAYS IS A HELP TO ANYONE AND IS A WASTE OF TIME. FOCUS LIKE A LASER. I HAVE BEEN DEFENDING PRO SE FOR SEVERAL YEARS BECA– USE OF THE HELP THESE FORUMS PROVIDE. MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO POST ARE TRYING TO HELP OR ARE LOOKING FOR HELP. YOU FOUR SEEM TOTALLY UNAWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON AS YOU PARROT DIATRIBES AND FLAME THROWER OUTBURST OF NO VALUE. I AM NO NARCISSIST. I AM TIRED OF SEEING YOUR GLOP ON THESE FINE PAGES. USUALLY I CAN IGNORE YOU BUT YOUR SUPPORT OF CHAOS AS A DEFENSE AGAINST THE PLUTOCRACY IS INANE. WHAT MUST BE DONE MUST BE DONE SILENTLY SO AS TO AVOID WAKING UP THE DOGS. ARIZONA’S AG IS GOING AFTER WELLS FARGO WITH CRIMINAL CHARGES BECA– USE A LAWYER NOTICED SOME ERRORS IN NOTARIZATIONS AND QUIETLY BROUGHT IT TO THE RIGHT PARTY’S ATTENTION. YOUR RANK WORDS GIVE YOU AWAY. I WOULD REALLY ENJOY AN INTELLIGENT CHANGE IN YOUR DISCOURSE.
Qwester,that is your opinion..This website is not a dictatorship…As far as I know, our comments are an open forum…We can all take from it what we choose…Who gives you the right to tell us what to talk about here…. I dare you to come up with one lie any of us have told…. We are all fighting fraudlclosure…..this is also a TRUTH MOVEMENT….Foreclosuregate began on 9/11 with the collapse of building 7 and the Patriot Act……Maybe you have not noticed the Political tone this fine website has taken and how they are promoting #Occupy Wall Street? Silence is deadly…no one here is promoting violence..but we are not about to bury our heads in the sand either…..The reason we are all here is because there have been alot of lies and deceptions that have been told…That all needs to come to the forefront to effect a change..You don’t believe we can change politics? Many others believe otherwise…..You can believe whatever you want…that is up to you..They have always feared this day would come when the people stopped believing their lies…….Bottom line is fraudclosure is what brought out the TRUTH about who has been behind all of the bad in the world for centuries…….once you understand who manufactures all of the wars and financial crises and who ordered the assassination of J.F.K and 9/11….you get all of this…..and being a Catholic all of my life this was indeed all very shocking to hear….that head of the beast lives in Rome…….black is white… white is black…If the truth is too much for you than do not read our comments…we enjoy the truth very much here at this website..Who are you to say what the wrong or right way is to fight this tyranny?….Millions of Americans feel the same way we do…..they are not believing the lies…and want to know the truth…
qwester, I find it interesting that you say that you have been fighting fraudclosure pro se for several years……. I have only been fighting this for a little over a year and this financial crisis did not even hit until 3 years ago…And over the last several years you haven’t wanted to find out who is really behind this? Who the real owners of this are? me thinks there is stuff you are not telling us………
Qwester…..I’vd seen your posts on this blog, and every time you post…..you insult somebody….or everybody. For this reason, I personally, will no longer adress
any of your comments. I too….. went through elementary school, in one room, a class of 24……..and I could see the Empire State bldg from my bedroom window……. so what?
Qwester….Do you know whar a narcicist is? It’s all about you dude~ I will no longer waste any space in my brain…..for people like you!
You say you have 2 sons in the building trade…..what building trade….in what country…..what do the other 2 do? BANKERS?…..TRADERS? Why not share your ideas here….with the realization that other people in this country are getting fu@#$d….we all could unite and take back our country! United we stand!
methinks thou protest too much, er uh, does one address you as Doc qwackster?
Alas, I forget myself. . . . . .
Personal attacks are of little value, of miniscule substance.
I vent and Rob….Ignore this guy gwester…..Claims he has watched and heard ‘ you ‘ over almost eighty ( 80) years…..that is quite a feat since none of us were born back when he started watching…..just who was he watching and listening too might be interesting to know…..maybe he too also believes black is white. To call you losers is a bit elementary….a tad bit I must say.
Qwester says he has 4 sons and DOZENS of grandchildren and grest grandchildren…Lordy…hasn’t he heard that depopulation is part of the plan ? And elderly are not on the list of who to save with health problems ? What he has done in his life means diditly squat …that only matters to him and his ego….Notice he tells of his lifespan from beginning to now…but calls you losers when in fact he never gave any suggestions as to what is now the issues ..and he too is included along with all his family….they all will have a chip and own nothing…no food, no freedom,no cars, and rent…if they live. ..that is what this old guy should be considering…not calling others losers when in fact he has no idea who we are. or what we have done in our lifespan
Marilyn, We have all seen his kind here before…that is how we know we are getting under their skin when these attacks start coming….the trolls have been crawling out of the woodwork ever since this website started posting stuff about the protests and Michael Moore..They have all been dreading this, the day we all woke about and started showing up…..sounds like qwester may have the life span of no human I know of! LMAO!!
I think you are one of those one-handed typists who gets off on abuse and jerks off with the other hand, but first, your old ass has to pop the blue pill.
Qwester……..You have 6 patents……..or 7. 6 or 7….which is it? Oh can’t remember?
Your Shinola is nothing but bullshit! Take your phony ass out of here……but I have to admit jerkoffs like you, are entertaining.
Qwester is just another disinfo agent put in place by the Plutocracy….to TRY and discredit us…. No one that knows the truth is drinking his kool-aid..
Quester you are not nearly as sneaky and dangerous as the tainted water, apple juice, canteloupe, ground beef and who knows what other toxic crap is floating around America..
lvent: I think this one is drinking Brawndo instead of Kool-Aid. “Its got electrolytes.”
leapfrog, yep he is trying to pass it around but no one wants any.
Qwester….Where are you? We need your ignorant rants…..helps keep us in touch with the fact that there are truly ignorant trolls among us………unless you are a banker or associate, in which case hell will be your final place of unrest. Think you can’t suffer in hell for eternity….think about it for a while!
We are moving steadily into Plutocracy in the U.S. When the Supreme Court gave Corporations “personhood” to finance election campaigns, we stepped toward Plutocracy. When Mitt Romney suggests Corporations are “persons” he moved into Plutocracy.
Yes, it sounds drastic to protest on Wall Street but it gains attention. Yes, it is a diverse protest with many factions that some of cannot support, but it gains attention. Remember the Vietnam war began as a hippy protest to take down an illegal and unjust war, a war that damaged people for generations. When a right wing movement, “the tea party” is pumped up to support mainstream Republicans who use their influence to paralyze Washington, we are moving towards “Plutocracy” with their shouts to destroy the federal government.
Plutocracy is RULE by the wealthy, escalating power for the wealthy, corporations, mega banks, insurance companies, pharmaceuticals, etc. to neutralize Washington through lobbyist influence. We are there now! Yes, it is frightening but WE THE PEOPLE are losing control of federal government “by and for the People” to Corporate controlled Republicans. The GOP is busily destroying unions, removing access to the courts, both criminal and civil, redistricting voting, requiring photo ids to vote, destroying bargaining rights that hurt the individuals. When complete we will be totally at the mercy of the powerful Plutocracy with little avenue to return except anarchy. Now is the time to protest!
Yes, they will say it is socialist because it feeds fear instilled in us by a criminal socialist regime that destroyed a race of people. People fear being so labeled. Those who would instill Corporate rule or Plutocracy in place of federal government by the People for the People play to that fear. Fear will destroy free will and serve to still the voice of those who have the courage to demonstrate publicly!
As the GOP used the moral majority and the tea party to further their efforts to gain control for corporate wealth, those who would oppose losing control to the banks, Wall Street will find it necessary to embrace those with the energy and courage to protest, whether they are Pilots or hippies!
The life time appointments for members of the Supreme Court has to change…Term limits need to be put in place..The people should elect them, just like the judges….There can be no justice otherwise…..It is rigged..
How dare those bastards on FOX make fun of those people….We need to boycott the MSM America..then they will all be on the unemployment line and we will never forgive or forget who these traitors were……I despise Greg Guttfield…He has made alot of crude remarks about MAINSTREET on his other FOX show….They are all NWO BITCHES…and HO’s..Anyone notice that CFR member ex-Citi bank cohort Erin Burnett is going to be having her own show on CNN?…..They removed Elliot Spitzer and put that NWO biyatch on? No one should watch that traitor……I will admit, I do spy on them from time to time, but for the most part I turn them off….I won’t allow them to bust an artery in my head…no one believes them anymore………..I thought Glenn Beck was bad…..these people are even worse deceivers…..they are all actors…reading from a script……reject them…
So has the vacuum in your head sucked out all your wits? Street demonstrations are counter-productive and waste the powerfull assets we have in this republic. You are a tool of the totalitarian left, the ultimate dictatorship. We have a system that works well when the rules are followed. There is no plutocracy except when you look into a mirror. You are even more ignorant about this nation than is Obama.
Quester….You bank troll piece of excrement! How are you? Near death…… I hope!
qwester, Who said they think Obama is ignorant? He is a puppet, just like you and he has NWO owners just like you do…..this is what the NWO has feared all along, the day WE THE PEOPLE stopped believing the lies and started showing up..
ooh, I pissed off a POS plutocrat’s lackey-boy. Lol! Must have struck a nerve. How sadly pathetic.